🔥 Everlast PowerArc 200ST Demo (6010 and 7018)
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We just got a new PowerARC 200ST stick welder, so we thought we would share with you our first experience with it.
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I'm amazed at how such a great stick welder can be made so compact.
I'm a welding student and i bought this machine to practice on. Very nice for the price and like Bob said it runs pretty hot. I run 1/8 7018 at 90 amps compared to the 115 -120 I run on the Lincolns at school. Lots of power in this little box.
There’s a lot of very good welding instruction on CZcams with priceless content. I do like Jody, Chucke2009, and the Fabrication series too and have learned a lot from them, but as a teacher, you deserve a Nobel aureate.
I’m new to TIG and still a novice but thanks to videos like this I’m improving every day. Thank you.
I've had this unit for months and use the hell out of it. I've ran it for days and it's never let me down. The only problem is the readout is dead wrong, Bob even says so. I keep a notepad beside it for all my sweet spots and live with it for this price point.
Seth Ward My instructor at Lanier Tech tells me that in the old days every welder would have a mark on the welder for their sweet spot. My instructor found that 72 amps was best for the Radnor rods and 74 for Millenniums.
I got my 200ST from Weld.com. The trick to getting it running right is welding in TIG mode. The arc in Stick mode will dig so hard in vertical that it’s impossible to make any kind of weld. When you move to TIG mode it disables the hot start and arc force that are preset in the computer. On TIG mode it runs 6010-6011 like a charm and 7018 like a dream. The only time I use Stick mode is when I’m making 1F welds on really thick material that’s needs that deep dig into the base metal. Good video Bob, I hope you do one in a groove in vertical.
I was doing the same thing until I realized that the problem was that the display is way off. The actual current is about 1 1/2 times what is shown. Once I started making the correct adjustments my problems want away and I went back to stick mode.
Tom Bayt that’s interesting! Thats the one thing I haven’t tried. Instead of running on 85 Amps for 6010 I’ll turn it down to 45 Amps and instead 115 amps for 7018 I’ll turn that down to 60 amps and try that on stick mode. Very interesting. Maybe it won’t dig so hard.
The Amps displayed is way off on mine too. I confirmed this with a clamp on meter. Everlast tech support tried to blame it on arc force, but that's not correct on a CC machine. They just didn't have a fix for it I'm thinking.
Mark Decamps can you give us a ratio of the actual current mine does the same thing, I would really appreciate it
Victor Padilla It's approximarely one rod size off...for example 80-90 amps on the display for an 1/8" 7018.
That little inverter machine you using Bob is really neat. I been looking at getting one for a few weeks for practicing 6010 and 7018 on open groove plate and pipe joints. Maybe even set up a scratch start DC Tig outfit and see how it does for on 6G 2 inch pipe. Thank you weld.com and Bob Moffat for reviewing this cool machine. I am going to have to buy myself an early Christmas present. Ha ha
I don't think it will burn 6010 on open but root very well. I could be wrong. Most cheap machines can't do it.
Did you get yourself 1 and how do you like it?
Yea Bob set up a scratch start rig , just got a CK17 and still need to grab an argon bottle, curious about its performance.
Thanks, Bob.Looks like a decent little machine. I have their Power i Mig 140 and run it a lot. Same issue with settings- have needed to figure out what works & just jot it down for reference. They are a good value for the money if a person is on a budget.
Just ran a root with ER70S 2 @ 60 amps , this first pass couldn't have came out any better
I had turned my 200 ST down to 87 to run Radnor 1/8” 7018 but Thursday, I took it to the tech school where I’m n my second semester and my instructor, a 32-year union man, started welding with it and had me keep turning it down to 72 amps. He then got our Millennium rods and found that they worked best at 74. He brought a couple of 5/32” 7018s and had the machine turning out beautiful beads at 105 amps.
He told me I had a fine welder.
jockellis So is it ok that the screen does not correspond to what it really delivers?
Juan Zavala Sorry, I just saw this. Once you figure out the amperage you need everything is fine. If you are not a pro, you would probably be better off finding one and have him weld with it for a proper opinion
Let the accountants worry about #'s. Just find the "happy place" on the dial and weld. The #'s on any machine are just a place to start. From there you can fine tune it, like you would fine tune a radio to get the best signal.
Great looking welder there Bob. Thanks for showing us what it can do.
The new version I have just has a button for the 6010 and it’s a good machine and works. Haven’t had an issue with the machine, only my generator which can’t keep up with this welder. 5k generator and this little guy is pulling it down till it dies. Wish I could really try this bad boy out at 200!
Good video. I have had my Powerarc 200 for almost a year now. Ive been practicing on 2" sch.40 and 6 "sch.40. I would like to see a video soon. The arc performance on my machine is awesome, just like what you showed. Thanks for all the videos Bob, happy holidays.
Hi, Have you tested the tig function ? because i doesn't find any tig video with this machine.
You right I wanna see this machine working on pipe and tig
One of the best compact stick welders out there.
Nice video, Bob! That's a kick-ass little buzz box. Thanks for sharing. 6010!
Nice demo. Like one person commented about a clamp on amp meter, maybe it would be a good idea to use the proper amp meter on your demos just to see how accurate the readout on the welders you are using is. Maybe in both 110 and 220V input and both AC & DC output depending on what the machine is made or set for. Thanks, Ed K. Cleve. Oh.
Just ordered this $319 cant wait to get it.
JohnBoyWSU same question and was that with shipping too?? Although I'm not too far off for what I just got it
Great welder for a great price. Have fun with it.
I have it and I tried it with a multimeter, in stick mode it delivers 30 amps over what the screen says, up to 45 with a short arc, but this only with 7018, with 6011 and 6013 are 15 to 20 more and up to 35 with a short arc, yes, I tried it several times and the result was always like this, in TIG mode the screen corresponds to the multimeter.
Yeah I just do everything in Tig mode because of this. Also in stick mode on 110v it likes to trip breakers
good video , so many arguing for transformer welders , saying inverters don't deliver like trans stick welders. I qualified 6G on 6in pipe with a maxstar 150 Some yrs back. This 200 st is tempting . The little blue machine doesn't like 6010 .
great vid, thanks, happy thanks giving to you and yours
joe
Very nice stick welder. I can't believe how compact it is.
They did a remake on this machine and the called now powerarc 200 sti but I can’t get it to work with 6010 can u help me out
I just bought one and it works great
I have one, the stick mode is trash. I do everything in Tig mode. Even 6010. Actually me and a buddy built him a new welding bed with it off 110v with 6010 because we were in a residential area and didn't want the neighbors to call in noise complaints. Initially I was disapointed but I've adapted to it.
Bob I absolutely love your videos and have learned quite a bit from you. I have one small issue when you review machines and it’s also a video request. You need to do some low end work during reviews. Some of these machines are great mid to high end machines when it comes to power settings but are absolutely hard to run down low such as welding sheet metal body panels. Otherwise keep up the great work
Joshua Nelson Good feedback. Thanks.
Bob Moffatt just ordered a rebel 210 to go with my dynasty 200 and my Lincoln 255c
Pretty sure when you are as good as Bob you can make any weld look good. Seriously though, I can’t get my 200st to run 6010 to save my life.
Chris Doeg read my comments on Mikes comment .
Read the manual. You might not have the cables in the right connectors. Kevon Caron did that in his " AHP 160 vs Everlast 160 stick/Tig Welders" video. For 6010 the ground wire should go in the 6010 slot. He hooked the stinger in there and it ran like crap.
I run it on 220v, with the ground on the 6010 port. I am a tight arc holder anyways so there is no issue there. I can feel the flux burning of against the patent metal I’m that close. I can run 6010 on a Lincoln idealarc with no issues keeping everything the same.
A lot of guys have given up on 6010 rods. They've gone to 6011. It runs better and has the same properties. Given a choice, I'd ALWAYS grab a 6011.
Unfortunately for what I’m trying to get into (pipe welding) they require 6010, so I am working on getting used to that rod. The machine does run 7018 awesome though.
Put a DC clamp meter that can measure current. Compare its measured output to display output over the range of the machine.
I have this same machine, I’m wanting to get set up for lift arc tig. Could you do a demo on that so I can see if it’s worth it? I’ve been on the fence on starting out on a proper set up with a foot pedal or just setting up a bare bones rig first. Thank you for making awesome content! Please take care I always enjoy and learn from you!
Jorge Perez Everlast says it won’t run with foot pedal and scratch start is your only choice. They don’t sell a gun for it with that feature.
Dear Bob, I love your videos but wish that you guys had similar camera lenses like welding tips and tricks. It would be awesome to see the pool more
I want to see you do a plate test with that welder
i HAVE NOT RUN ANY 6010 ON MY 200ST, BUT IT WILL DO A GREAT JOB ON 7018 AND 6011.
TOM
I run 6010 3/32 rod welding 1/4" square tubing perpendicular to each other; at 60 amps the rod dig into the metal like in butter just begging to hold short arc
I have the first gen of this machine (minus the "ST") which does stick only. I like it, and it seems durable. (As a hobbiest, I've put in probably 20 hrs of arc time over several years.) BUT when I run 1/8" 7018 it seems to need 150A. I would probably short sell Miller, if it was a pure play. I always run it off 240VAC.
Great looking welder for the money. It seemed like a much bigger unit in the pictures I've seen.
I think it was "gettin' after it."
That machine also has adjusted arc force and hot start
I’m sorta narrowing my choices. I want to learn stick, have mostly small self projects. I was leaning towards the esab 180 ($600), someone suggested the everlasting 200.
Can I get your opinion on which one you think is the best at the $400-$700 range? Thinking they’re all good, but your opinion, the very best.
Esab rogue 180,,,,, everlast 200,,,,, Lincoln (don’t know equivalent model),,,,,, Miller thunderbolt 160,,,,,, Miller thunderbolt 180
I’ve seen you use a lot of them, your opinion would help a lot. Thanks!
Seen vids on the esab rebel and the fronius transpocket 180. Those two seem above all at the $1200 range, problem is ...the $1200!
I was leaning towards the rogue and everlast. Only $200 difference. But got to draw the line somewhere. Thanks for your vids!
Thank you very much Sir for your fine video! In your opinion, being that the 10’ leads that come with the welder are too short for my needs, could it handle 100’ leads?
No. I put 40 foot of lead on and it couldn’t even strike an arc
Merry Christmas Bob, question. I like this machine, i am looking at the 140 and the 200st machines. The 200 requires you to purchase a tig torch at $112-$159 in addition to the machine. The 140st comes with the torch and carrying case. The 200st has more amps and will weld the 6010 sticks. Do I need the bigger machine? I'm a hobbyist. Keep up the great video's.
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Hey bob do you think this machine is good to practice on pipe welding? And would you use it on welding pipe?
Did you ever find out?
Works great man highly recommend it to you
Can you make a video about aluminum mig flux core innersheild wire? Recently heard about this stuff, lincoln electric sells it. Really wanna know what its all about
I know I'm pretty late, but I've been looking at reviews on this machine and I'm really liking how this thing is being rated as. But I'm caught between this and the 160 sth. For the price, on a budget which one should I get?
Could you please test the Lotos LPTDC2000D? It’s a multipurpose welder incorporating TIG, Stick, and Plasma Cutter. I’m considering a purchase of one and would like to see it being used by someone that knows how to use it. Thanks for all the good videos. I have learned a lot from them.
What’s that plug in you used on the 6010? Doesn’t they both run on DCEP?
I have the same machine i love it very powerful little welder
I have this machine & to run 7018 properly I had to flip the switch to Tig and it was night and day difference I think that's why you had to run such low amperage with 1/8 7018
i like it , do want to get into welding trailers for tiny houses , been watching a lot of welding video on the tube, welders seem like heads up people . thanks for posting this ever-last 200 unit its top on my buy list now at 350ish! arrest hillary!
What country is this machine made in?
Not sure about these inverter. I run 6010 using Lincoln AC 225
I've found it to run a hotter arc .
But it's handy unit
Would you buy this machine Bob if you had a side buisness and needed a good stick machine. I have the power tig 250 ex. I want to designate it as a tig welder and buy a good stick machine. I trust you input.
Adam Johanson I would
Thanks sir. Mr. Tig came up to Idaho once for a meeting and i almost went but was working. If you come up I’m going. Norco is a welding supplier who I think has him up here
Adam Johanson
Very curious what the current difference was between the two rods. I seem to recall guys running 1/8" 6010 and 3/32" 7018 with identical machine settings.
Correct.
I have the 140st and it does the same, paid 300.00 but home depot is selling them for 250.00
Does it run on a 30 amp or 50 amp breaker?
How much can i order help me bos
this or a Lincoln 225 tombstone ac/DC?
200 st, you were at 95 amps. looks like the st140 would be fine
Can you try this machine on pipe with tig please ?
Titanium from harbor freight has same thing but 225 amps also will run 6010 for 250 bucks better value than this machine
I'm looking at the Titanium 225 on Harbor Freight's website and it retails for $280. I got my 200ST for $400....$120 difference. The Everlast has a 5 year warranty. Harbor Freight's website says the Titanium has a 90 day warranty. I'm sure there is an extended warranty, generally 1 or 2 years at HF, and generally about 15% of the item price.
So...Everlast, $400, 5 year warranty, digital readout with variable adjustable dial, and it can do TIG. Titanium, $322 +/- with maybe a 2 year warranty (probably 1), no digital readout (so your just guessing), and no TIG.
Can this machine will work good for learning on plate and pipe ?
I’m barely learning ! Thank you
Horacio Salinas yes it will work .
If you use it in the 120 mode can you use an extension cord like you can with the HTP buzz box?
Jeff Hulett i have the smaller 140st model and I've used it on a 50ft 12ga cord just fine. I wouldn't use a cord smaller than 12ga just for good measure.
Could you do a Tig and Stick demo with the everlast powerarc 160 STH?
I do not have one.
"weldingtipsandtricks.com" has a very good video that does exactly what you are asking for.
aluminum can be welded with the Everlast TS200
No AC functionality so no unfortunately
@@JamesonPreston I'm of the understanding that Aluminum can be done with DC.
I MEANT THE POWERTIG 315LX
Does anybody know how much it weighs?
Luis Gutierrez Felt like about 40 lbs. Look up the specs, it should say.
Bob Moffatt It’s around 30lbs, thanks! Can you do a demo of how to set up this machine using tig mode, I’d very much appreciate it!
CAN YOU TRYTHE EVERLAST 230I PLS AND THE EVERLAST 300 AMP TIG WELDER AS WELL
can you run a TIG weld with this machine as you have with the stick
Nice video. Sure wish my powerarc 200st could run 6010 like yours does but it just won't keep it lit.
Mark Breidenbaugh call us 6505888588 after 9am pst
Its the same machine. What are you doing different ?
Mike at Everlast I will certainly call you thank you!
Shaq Deisel i am not doing anything different. The arc just snuffs out every couple seconds then back on. I have the ground plugged into the 6010 port on the machine. I have done some reading and I am not the only one that has had this problem. It runs all other electrodes I have tried very well.
In stick mode on the 6010 port it has to have a super close arc length. It’s very weird because it goes against normal training with fast freeze electrode that you should hold a medium length arc and make persistent whips. With this machine in stick mode it requires a arc length of near touching the base metal with little slight whips. It however doesn’t hump up like it normally would on a transformer buzz box type machine it lays out smooth. That’s the big quirk to doing fast freeze rod on it. You decrease the voltage when you run a tight arc length and most lower end inverters don’t have the capacity to run that higher voltage with a longer arc length.
What's the duty cycle on this.
Leonard Gilbreath 30% at 120amps I think.
What's the most amps it will run on 120v?
125 amps on 120v
i don't understand why America uses 120 v as their standard power supply when most of the world use 230 v. Most of the world would have no trouble running a welder at 200 amps of a standard wall outlet.
producer michael
except you undercut the 6010 weld Bob :(
Slag line and shadow from lighting.
110 most people buying this machine will never run it on 220v? this demo should not have been done in 220, someone buying a 300 dollar machine dosent have a 220v outlet most!
Cup Walker most houses have 220 outlets for their dryers
yea yea ill take my welder up to my laundry room and run some beads sounds smart, dumbest comment ive ever read lmao
Cup Walker I run a 220 plug from the dryer outlet to the garage. the 110 is only useful when I have to bring the thing with me. Still want to wire 220 plug from the panel to the garage itself
Cup Walker I do but I was lucky in that the man across the street is the project manager for an electrical company. His mom and my wife are buddies so he didn’t charge a dime. It still cost me $144 for supplies at HD.
A 220v outlet isn't that difficult to install
you had undercut the whole way down the weld......!!!!!
Can you do tig with dc- tig
Yes