Review: Bachmann Class J

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024

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  • @STho205
    @STho205 Před 6 lety +9

    The Class J is, in person, one of the most stunning steam motive power on US rail. The models don't translate that, especially as one goes down in size. A Hudson or Pacific without the streamlining is much more visually like the prototype. It is just a trick of the eye, with the smooth surfaces.
    The Bachman still seems to use the casting, running gear and finish of their earlier models from the 1970s with this model, just installed the decoder and speaker. They have greatly improved many other models, but this J still looks like one a friend gave me in 1982 to just sit in the background on a N&W static scene line on my layout.
    Again with discounts it is much less than other models of the J, but note how the running gear has so much play in it that the model can be moved almost 5mm on a table, as you showed.
    You put it in perspective and it is a good review.

  • @pinchy08
    @pinchy08 Před 7 lety +18

    The bell on this locomotive is right behind the pilot. Bachmann put the bell near the valves because it was like that when it rolled off the factory. The bell being behind the pilot is an upgrade. Broadway limited has it like that.

    • @thetrueamerican707
      @thetrueamerican707 Před 6 lety

      Pinchie08 same with the cowcatcher. Nowadays its round but it used to be that shape.

  • @brianred8
    @brianred8 Před 2 lety +1

    I appreciate that you review this considering the price. I find it funny how so many people would call this thing garbage because they are comparing it to an $800 locomotive..... I think $250 for this is a steal, especially considering Bachmann has improved on their products over the past few years....

  • @grandparails8858
    @grandparails8858 Před 7 lety +5

    Thanks for the review James. Bachmann makes some good steam I have 3 that have no problems what so ever. I also have about 10 diesels, all you have to do is adjust the cvs just everything else and they run great!

  • @cunningtim
    @cunningtim Před 7 lety +3

    Great review, James, and I agree with everything you said. I bought this 611 because of the price and my past good experience with Bachmann steam locomotives. I am pleased overall, except I have a slight dip/rise on one section of my layout's track, and this locomotive sometimes gets "beached" on it and spins its drivers. This hasn't happened with any other locomotive I have, including another Bachmann 4-8-4.

  • @linnc7591
    @linnc7591 Před 6 lety +1

    great review, I can live with the small flaws, but the price to me was a key concideration, I don't have a layout, and still have engines I purched in mid 90s that are still waiting there turn, but now I do have a great comprise, of my favoret steam engine, thanks for your honest review

  • @jefflizotte4758
    @jefflizotte4758 Před 7 lety +2

    thank you for the review,also thank you for all the time and cash you put in to help us along out here in the subscriber world,I have been a sub since you began with your first layout and will continue as I absolutely enjoy your channel

  • @tyroneandbob9890
    @tyroneandbob9890 Před 3 lety +1

    The hook on the front does open NO joke man it does

  • @thomasavensjr.2790
    @thomasavensjr.2790 Před 9 měsíci

    This is a decent and attractive model of the N&W j class type, I would really like to get a BLI or an Mth model of the j class but their models are in the price range of $400-$500. I will most likely pick up the Bachmann model since it is far less expensive and I would really like to have a 4-8-4 in my locomotive fleet, the Bachmann j class model is great from a price viewpoint observation and this will attract a certain crowd of modelers.

  • @thebrantfordrailfan
    @thebrantfordrailfan Před 7 lety +2

    That's a real good looking locomotive, I'll be getting this one instead of the BLI one.

    • @mitchellmilitello
      @mitchellmilitello Před 7 lety +1

      TheBrantfordRailfan its a great locomotive for the price BLI is unreliable and overpriced but they make good models though, so i cant complain

    • @brutecompaq8480
      @brutecompaq8480 Před 5 lety

      P

  • @James-Railyard
    @James-Railyard Před 4 lety +1

    Just letting everyone know. This is the exact same model as the spectrum version, when it says 22” radius it means 22”. Mine when around a 20” w/o pulling something and kept derailing, then I put coaches behind it and it stayed on the track.

    • @thegillingroup1303
      @thegillingroup1303 Před 3 lety

      Yes I got the engine and had to buy 22" radius curves because it kept dearailing on 18"

  • @natejackson8213
    @natejackson8213 Před 7 lety +1

    I love this video of your review there, James. I looked nice.

  • @TrainsNStuff
    @TrainsNStuff Před 7 lety +7

    Nice review James!

  • @camerondabiartandshit3072

    That whistle is on point perfect with the real emgine

  • @ohiovalleyrailfan
    @ohiovalleyrailfan Před 3 lety +1

    As much as I like it, the color on the red striping is the wrong hue...kinda bothers rivet counters like me...

  • @adamserafin5707
    @adamserafin5707 Před 7 lety +4

    Nice Review.Well Done! Like the Rocket. Is that a model .Or is it a operating model that you can launch ?

  • @schneidertruckkaluhiokalan1382

    it's a really good looking train!

  • @easternncrailfan7594
    @easternncrailfan7594 Před 3 lety

    Just ordered one with my birthday money, one of my favorite steam trains got it for 205$

  • @kenstrainstuff6908
    @kenstrainstuff6908 Před 6 lety +1

    Was there ever a time when the bell was there? Because on the Bachmann daylight with the large letters, #4449, it is correct. There was a time when #4449 had centered number boards with white trimmed wheels and large tender lettering. So I was just wondering if you knew if #611 ever had its bell in the place that the model has it?

  • @Aurik-Kal-Durin
    @Aurik-Kal-Durin Před 4 lety +2

    Is there a way to attach a coupler on the front so you can have it pull the coaches in reverse, like it does on the Strasburg Railroad? I'd like to see a tutorial for that...

    • @christopherhager4288
      @christopherhager4288 Před 2 lety

      Mine has a swing out coupler in the front. I thought the piece there was broken, so I tried pushing it around a bit and the coupler swung out. turn yours upside-down with a flashlight and check

  • @Goomba_N64
    @Goomba_N64 Před 7 lety

    I love this style of this train noice

  • @DaBobsNScaleMancave
    @DaBobsNScaleMancave Před 7 lety

    The one thing I noticed was the wire bundle hanging down between the tender and locomotive, it will catch on switches and other scenery items in the tracks, probably. Looks out of place to me. Good review.

    • @LaneMphoto09
      @LaneMphoto09 Před 3 lety

      The wires may just go over the rails so it’s touching the ties until the switch it may just silde above

  • @liljohnreplogle
    @liljohnreplogle Před 7 lety

    Awesome! Thank you!

  • @delpproductions217
    @delpproductions217 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I Have That same One It Just Doesn’t Run anymore :(

  • @Ambitious_Scripter
    @Ambitious_Scripter Před 5 lety

    Hey! I got the exact same thing 3 days ago!

  • @dacuzzz
    @dacuzzz Před 7 lety

    hi James... you always do great reviews but i was wondering why you don't dive into "N" scale reviews... Bachmann also. produces this loco in "N" scale.. thanks for sharing.. vinny

  • @newriverproductions12
    @newriverproductions12 Před 5 lety

    Detail wise, I like it. VERY inflated price, and I’m not a huge fan of their sound, nothing a new decoder can fix though.

  • @BigPete7407
    @BigPete7407 Před 7 lety

    Hi James, I have been following your channel for quite some time and I have a few requests. On your initial review of details, Would you consider using a pointer to show details instead of your finger? thanks.

  • @NW-gi1cp
    @NW-gi1cp Před 3 lety

    I actually have a model of it now but it needs a new tender because im clumsy af.

  • @NorfolkAndWestern611
    @NorfolkAndWestern611 Před rokem

    I love this engine I have 613 but I wish you could turn the sound up because when this thing gets up to speed it half way all you hear is the side rods if anyone knows how to turn up the volume please give me a video how or tell me please

  • @southwestvirginiarailfan729

    Id like to get the mth version of this, but i can never find one anywhere. Might have to get this instead, which is fine, since 95% of my trains are bachmann anyway.

  • @claradecker8148
    @claradecker8148 Před 3 lety

    The bell 🔔 is supposed to be on the front

  • @RunJVHRun
    @RunJVHRun Před 7 lety

    MTH with a 3 way comparison next!

  • @clrphotography7448
    @clrphotography7448 Před 7 lety +16

    In my opinion, Broadway Limited did a way better job.

    • @thebrantfordrailfan
      @thebrantfordrailfan Před 7 lety +5

      How so? I think they're both equal.

    • @mitchellmilitello
      @mitchellmilitello Před 7 lety +9

      Chicago Line Railfan well no shit sherlock bachmann isnt supposed to be "high end models" its supposed to be geared toward people with a budget

    • @adamserafin5707
      @adamserafin5707 Před 7 lety +4

      Bachmann has very deep pockets and could mess a little with a Company like Broadway limited when it comes to Steam. Bachmann can afford to put out something that could rival Broadway in detail and performance at a better price because of the deep pockets. Not sure they want to step on there toes . But maybe a little to show off a little. Keeps the quality up that way with competition ,only for us to benefit!

    • @mattbrinson9950
      @mattbrinson9950 Před 6 lety

      Chicago Line Railfan 100% agreed

    • @lukemiller6230
      @lukemiller6230 Před 6 lety

      Yes but this is cheap

  • @mochs3869
    @mochs3869 Před 6 lety

    I can't believe they still use that horrible swiveling drawbar they used when the J first joined the Spectrum line. There were SO many complaints about that, yet they still use it.

  • @tyroneandbob9890
    @tyroneandbob9890 Před 4 lety

    That sounds like my grandfathers 611

  • @RailroadVideosofPA
    @RailroadVideosofPA Před 7 lety

    Could you do the different whistles/horns on bachmann sound value stuff? Btw nice video! Keep up the good work!

    • @southwestvirginiarailfan729
      @southwestvirginiarailfan729 Před 7 lety

      TrainFanatic I think the decoder comes with 3 different whistles, you just have to go into the cv's and pick the one you want. You could purchase a different decoder with more whistles & install it should you want to.

    • @RailroadVideosofPA
      @RailroadVideosofPA Před 7 lety

      Well, being a model railroader I already know CVs and that Bachmann Sound Value come with three whistles. I always like programming with Decoder Pro. If I would get a J Class I would definitely put in a Tsunami 2 Decoder I have one and it is AMAZING!

    • @southwestvirginiarailfan729
      @southwestvirginiarailfan729 Před 7 lety

      TrainFanatic I see what you meant now, this was at like 2 am last night when i read what you typed. 😃

  • @DietPizza1
    @DietPizza1 Před 6 měsíci

    Do you think the recent release is the exact same?

  • @0v3rr1d3
    @0v3rr1d3 Před 3 lety +1

    How are the bearings? I'm looking at getting this as a birthday gift for my dad, and I'm a little cautious. We have the old Bachmann Limited Edition 611 and it's just awful so I want to make sure I get him one that actually works

  • @tropicalties3806
    @tropicalties3806 Před 2 lety

    Has anyone had issues with these locomotives stripping gears?

  • @crazyamericangamer7036

    Can u review diff control boxes? Idk how to wire my set up good

  • @mausisbestwaifu8376
    @mausisbestwaifu8376 Před 6 lety +1

    Would u recomend it?

  • @awp2902
    @awp2902 Před 7 lety

    Can you do a review of the bwl n&w water tender

  • @jomama05
    @jomama05 Před 7 lety +4

    Past experience with bachmann has steered me away from them, most of them I've bought have broken, even after brake ins, and oiling. I won't ever buy bachmann US trains. Bachmann U.K. Locomotives however are some of the best in the business.

    • @canadianfoamer2052
      @canadianfoamer2052 Před 7 lety +3

      Every one i've had is fine. I've had a bachmann 4-8-4 for years and it runs great to this day

  • @owthatssharp73
    @owthatssharp73 Před 6 lety

    I just got my bli #613 and im in dc not dcc. Mine works better in dc than that works in dcc. Bli is so much better

  • @sharky_99r83
    @sharky_99r83 Před 2 lety

    Does this train require a controller?

  • @crazyamericangamer7036

    If i ask an receive ill keep coming back to channell

  • @dajavu71
    @dajavu71 Před 7 lety +1

    why dont train world use paypal still?

  • @jpfranco2258
    @jpfranco2258 Před 2 měsíci

    Is it DC or DCC

  • @Mr300bowler
    @Mr300bowler Před 5 lety

    Hey James i have n&w class J cab. Number 613

  • @yeetyeeet2778
    @yeetyeeet2778 Před 4 lety

    Does the whistle sound better in irl?

  • @RavennaRailfan4070
    @RavennaRailfan4070 Před 4 lety

    Awesome engine! What’s the minimum curve radius?

  • @nwfan2006
    @nwfan2006 Před 4 lety

    My darlin

  • @Mr300bowler
    @Mr300bowler Před 5 lety

    hey James I have N&W 613 I want add my 2nd N&W class J 611 where did you find it at

  • @benlahrman4149
    @benlahrman4149 Před 4 lety

    Could it be run outdoors?

  • @tyroneandbob9890
    @tyroneandbob9890 Před 4 lety

    The whistle is not made well or the bell

  • @HARPO1ME
    @HARPO1ME Před 6 lety

    Build quality for the price .Not just a better price then others because it has a cheep sound decoder. That is the best part.These things look good so the cut in cost is in how it was made with cheep parts in the frame and drive mechanism. Cheep recycled China brass wire that is against electrical standards in the U.S. Makes the wire brittle and breaks. All my newer Bachmanns had to be rewired with quality wire made in the USA. If you like to work on them to fix them more then running them Bachmann is for you. You get what you pay for right. Not in many of Bachmann products because they cut corners in the wrong areas,but put a top notch paint job on them to give it some value . Otherwise garbage.

    • @richbuege6491
      @richbuege6491 Před 5 lety +2

      You've given me good reason to be pissed off at your uneducated remarks. If you have to rewire them and the mechanisms aren't working well, maybe you should quit going to yard sales and buying those that are already run out. I have the first HO loco I ever bought, a Bachmann F unit, and other than small detail parts being missing now, it still runs very well, after more than forty years.The only thing I've had to do to it is lube it and replace the traction tire. I have quite a few other Bachmann locos, all of which run well if I don't expect something they were never designed go do. If you don't like Bachmann that badly, then I suggest you don't buy them, send your money to someone else that will be only too happy to take that extra hundred or more bucks, for something that doesn't serve the purpose any more. Use your head, you're not paying MTH prices and you're not getting MTH. But your derogatory comments aren't needed. People like you are the reason hobbies are dying.

  • @nwfan2006
    @nwfan2006 Před 4 lety

    Dude my grandfather's 611 died tonight

  • @detectivehoovy7087
    @detectivehoovy7087 Před 5 lety

    What's the minimum curve for this?

  • @crazyamericangamer7036

    Does this smoke? I gotta get smoke 1

    • @MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC
      @MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC Před 5 lety

      No it doesnt, MSRP over $400 and no smoke or class lights or lit number boards or operating couplers.

  • @LydeckerFan
    @LydeckerFan Před 7 lety

    So why does the model have a dual headlight but no enlarged coal bunker?

  • @briantopp5005
    @briantopp5005 Před 2 lety

    +

  • @LordRusty5
    @LordRusty5 Před 7 lety +1

    For the price, they should give you a smoking engine, and have the bell in the correct place!!! The bell on #611 is under the front skirting of the Fireman's side. The sounds, the look ... not doing the real "Queen of the Rails" justice. What a shame!

    • @LordRusty5
      @LordRusty5 Před 7 lety

      Yes, this model is based off of Bachmann's early version, which is closer to the N&W J-602 ... and not the N&W J-611. Again, for what they are charging nowadays for this Locomotive - $429.00 MSRP - they could have, and should have easily, made this model more correct.
      A better model N&W J-611, for a comparable price comes from MTH. Coming with a die cast body on both engine and tender, smoking unit, and sound that is crisp, clear and correct. it is my first choice ... www.modeltrainstuff.com/MTH-HO-80-3265-1-4-8-4-J-Steam-Locomotive-N-W-p/mth-80-3265-1.htm?CartID=5
      mthtrains.com/80-3265-1
      Even Broadway Limited's N&W J-611 is more correct than this, and for an even better price.
      At $429.00 MSRP, this locomotive is not priced for like earlier Bachmann's, probably for the very reason the the real N&W J-611 is as popular as it is right now. That being said, they could have done a better job with this re-release!

    • @DGModelworks
      @DGModelworks Před 7 lety +2

      I'm not disagreeing with you, but the MTH at modeltrainstuff is $424.99 and the Bachmann is $249.99 at modeltrainstuff. Nobody charges MSRP for stuff, esp Bachmann stuff. So there are going to be some things lacking at a $250 price tag.

    • @LordRusty5
      @LordRusty5 Před 7 lety

      Agreed ...

    • @arondaylight8444
      @arondaylight8444 Před 6 lety

      The Bachmann class j are the as deliver model of the 611 in 1950. The bell was relocated in 1952

    • @HARPO1ME
      @HARPO1ME Před 6 lety

      100 DOLLAR STEAMER WITH A 30 DOLLAR SOUND DECODER.

  • @Traveller2016
    @Traveller2016 Před rokem

    Great video. i run N&W ho scale trains to, see my channel.

  • @ecpcharles
    @ecpcharles Před 4 lety +2

    The front coupler DOES exist, and can be taken out simply by rotating that front coupler cover piece.
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    this video is pretty biased against bachmann... although the model obviously not as good as BLIs model, you really cant compare Bachmann's standard line to BLI. Biased on the way he dosent seem to actually know much about the model itself, nor the prototype. The bell was mounted there on the prototype. On the prototype it was later hidden. His overall tone and seemingly lack of knowledge on the model and prototype really puts this model unfairly under a bad light.

  • @Newport1974
    @Newport1974 Před 2 lety

    The sound is Horrible on this engine

  • @shadow-d6428
    @shadow-d6428 Před 7 lety

    James you did a nice review but I'm not impressed with the product :(