Godox Chargers Are Weird - Don't Ruin Your Batteries!
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Like their batteries, Godox chargers can be a bit...unusual. So much so that using them wrong can prematurely wear out your batteries, or leave you with half-charged, or even dead batteries when you're ready to use them. Let's find out what's going on here, and what we can do about it.
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I don't understand why Godox haven't invested in better battery management and charging? It really isn't that difficult to engineer them that way. Great flashes let down by poor chargers. Again another great video from someone that understands battery electrics
It’s just one of the places they save a lot of money. But at the same time, if you buy a battery separate from a flash, they charge you an arm and a leg. Very odd.
I did change the way I charge and store my batteries since your first video on the subject. Now , after a session, a charge them up to 2/3 capacity and store. Before a shoot I top one of them to 100% and put it to use, mid-session I charge the spare to 100% and rotate it to use, etc.
Thanks for the informed input.
Thank you for keeping me current on Godox, I really get a charge out of your videos thank you!
I see what you did there 👀
I fell foul of leaving my Li-ion 580II spare batteries engaged in their chargers after they had been charged completely, but switched off at the mains. The one time in ages I wanted to use them additionally with the bigger flash units and I found out the batteries were flat. It obviously clicked with me that power was being fed back into the chargers. Needles to say I won't be making that mistake with those batteries/chargers or any of the other Godox units I have. Another great and informative video, thanks Wes.
Just did the same thing :(
I have plenty of spares but still
Omg.. The timing couldn't have been better.. I charged ad300pro battery last week Friday for a photoshoot which got postponed to this Friday. I switched of the power but didn't remove the battery. Yesterday at my photoshoot I only did 50 shots and the battery was dead 🙁 now I know why..thanks Wes
Nice work Wes. Although I never leave my batteries on constant charge or leave my chargers plugged in your tests have confirmed my suspicions of parasitic drain.Thank you, I'm sure many people will benefit from your testing.
Thanks for valuable tips concerning safety in using chargers Wes!
I've always thought taking my batteries out of the charger when they're finished was the right thing to do, but I never really had any actual evidence that I had to do it, so thank you. I do leave some of my other (Sony) old battery chargers plugged in all the time though, and just put my batteries in and out of them when needed - if the vampire draw is potentially as large as you've found on some of these, I've got to make sure to unplug. Thanks!!!
I can’t say I’ve checked my Sony chargers, but I would trust them a little more...however I have no evidence to this effect, so I probably shouldn’t. Haha.
I put all my chargers on two power bars so I can shut them all down when I’m done using them. (Batteries get removed as well, of course).
My problem with Godox battery chargers is keeping the chargers organized. I have about 4 different chargers for 4 different flashes. Keeping them at a place I can find them is difficult!
For sure!
So glad that the AD300 Pro and 100 Pro used existing batteries. Things were getting completely out of hand for a bit there.
J'ai acheté dernièrement 4 kit godox AD200 et après une séance photo je recharge mes 4 batteries sur les 4 chargeurs et là je viens pour les utiliser....bang... les 4 batteries sont déchargés ! Incroyable, j'ai jamais vu un truc pareil, j'avais pourtant pris le soin de débrancher les chargeurs mais le simple fait que les batteries soit demeurés dans les chargeurs ont complètement déchargés mes batteries. Je cherche sur le net et voilà que je tombe sur votre vidéo qui confirme ce qui m'est arrivé. Et là, je découvre aussi dans une autre vidéo que ces batteries auraient apparemment un reset à l'intérieur de la batterie....oufffff..... bizarrre de conception de Godoox ! Félicitations pour votre vidéo.
Good solid info Wes.
I also don't like to leave chargers unattended or let them charge over night. All the sockets for the charge station at the studio get turned off and batteries removed when topped up. Just not worth taking a gamble. Same with the phone.
Good man 👌🏻
Ended up on this video trying to find out of the battery on my V1 not charging is a common issue. Like I bought it a year ago and just use it for product photography now and then so I've only gone through ten charge cycles. Not sure if the battery or the charger is the issue. Strangely after some experiments, it now charges when I plug into my computer, but wouldn't work with two different bricks.
USB-C is a bit of a mess. Different cables don’t like different chargers, etc. a lot of the time it’s just a game of trial and error when you’re trying to get something simple to work 🤦🏻♂️
I was just thinking about batteries, chargers, dangers, and cheap electronics. I am thinking about getting into eBike repairs, and am aware of the risks, especially with the ever increasing power, at up to 60V! Excellent video, an important statement>
Thanks for testing all this! Much more interesting than another gear review!
I rarely use my AD600's and last charged them about 6 months ago. The batteries sit in my drawer in the garage and I check them regularly and they still show full battery. I'm now doubting the battery status lights and think that I'll put them back in an AD600 and fire a few shots to see what it shows after that.
The status lights on the batteries themselves are notoriously inaccurate. If you plug it into a charger for 20 or so seconds you’ll get a good reading from the charger itself.
@@WesPerry Agreed. My battery showed 100% charge after 3 months of non-use. I plugged it in the charger and it was actually around 50%. I'll never trust it again :-)
I read on adorama that they suggest charging the batteries every 3 months.
@@WesPerry you were right. Plugged them into the charger and all showed approximately 50% and not the 100% shown on the battery indicator. Charging them backup to around 75-80% and will do that every 3-4 months.
Very important video Wess - we shall share it on LensVid and also talk to Godox to see what they are thinking.
They’re thinking what most manufacturers are thinking: they can save 20c per charger, which adds up to thousands of dollars in the long run. 🤷🏻♂️
@@WesPerry Possibly, but maybe this video will change their mind (I wanted to ask you something - how can I reach you?).
You can send me an email at info@wesperryphotography.com
@@WesPerry will do Wess.
I'm not a Godox rechargeable battery fan after I bought the V860 and the battery swelled up and was useless after zero uses. I developed cancer and including recovery time, it was two years before I could address the swollen battery issue but by then I couldn't return the battery for a new one. I'm more a rechargeable AA kind of guy now.
Another happy viewer and new subscriber! Thank you!
Thank you Wes! This video was very educational and confirmed best practices when relying on your batteries.
WOW WOW WOW….what an absolutely amazing video. While it was potential information overload, you greatly helped me better understand what happens with rechargeable batteries and their related systems. I think this is the case for any rechargeable battery systems.
Thank you for your in-depth videos and for your easy going candor in the videos. Two thumbs up!!!!
Cheers
Good job and safety tips. Do battery drain inside flash when they are off?
That one is a little trickier to verify, but I’ve done some testing which came up inconclusive thus far. Another day... ;)
Thank you for the video . Very useful information. I came across this video while doing some reading on how to revive my dead AD400pro battery 😟
I love thorough testing. Thanks, Wes 👌
Love this technical breakdown! Awesome info.
and recently godox released new VC26T charger.
It’s a little hard to keep up. Haha
lets hope manufacturers will watch and built better in the future
Have you considered investigating the Adorama (exclusive) Flashpoint UC46 Multi Battery Charger for the XPLOR 600, 600Pro and 400 Pro? While it's neat that it has cables to charge all three of those batteries, it does separate the AC-to-DC conversion to a separate module and can also be plugged directly to a USB 5v source.
I once left my ad200 battery in the charger for a couple of days and the battery lost half the charge. Since that day i dont leave any godox batteries in the charger. I charge them and once charged i remove them.
I would like to see some sort of multi charging solution from Godox. May need to be a few units to make it happen though. Until then it's a box of chargers of a charging station on the wall.
Yeah, it’s a pain in the butt. But something like the Sony multi charger from ISDT (which does three types of batteries) shouldn’t be impossible to make.
I have 6 of the AD200 and so this solution works perfectly for me and lets me charge 6 of the AD200 batteries at once.
Apparently I can't link it here, so go to Adorama and search for: Flashpoint MB-6 Multi Battery Charger For the eVOLV 200 and eVOLV 200 Pro Pocket Flash
Great info! Thanks for sharing...
Nice job. What do I do with a ad200 battery that won't charge? Chuck it, or can it be repaired?
Is it older and well used, or has less reason to be malfunctioning?
@@WesPerry Hasn't been used the whole pandemic, decided to charge it recently for a shoot. Stuck at red on the charger. Bought it before pandemic used it less than 3 times. I charged another battery successfully on the same charger.
I’m having the same issue. Is there a way to reset the battery so it begins charging again?
Hii evry one😢
I’ve got 2 lights from xplor 300 pro with 2 batteries and 2 chargers. Both chargers are working well, but one of my batteries when I try to charge it shows that charging and I can see that 3 green lights working just for 2-3 seconds after that I can’t charge my battery., anyone know what this means?
Very useful. Thank you!
Love this info, I always felt like something was off with these chargers, now I know :)
Really enjoyed this, thank you and subscribed :)
Thanks, Brian!
Very interesting, thanks!
My ad600pro battery doesn't work anymore, I charged it only once. Very happy 🙄
I hope it’s still new enough to be warrantied?
Nice information. Thanks a lot
Thank you for this!
Have you ever seen the C26 charger display a single lit LED that runs up the four segment LED display? Normally, the charger should build up the LED sequence from whatever charge the battery has already, e.g., constantly show two LEDs lit and build the other two on top of them in cyclic manner. Sometimes, instead of showing all green LEDs constantly lit at the end of the charge, the charger shows a single green LED moving up the segments, i.e., it looks like a single light is moving up the segments. Whenever that happens, I disconnect the battery (it is an AD600 Pro battery), use it a bit (one full power discharge is enough) and then attach it again. The charger will then resume normal charging. I'm assuming the "single LED moving" sequence is indicating an error condition in which the battery is not accepting more charge but so far I have been unable to have this confirmed by anyone, nor do I know if there is a better "treatment" then what I described. P.S.: Batteries that have been charged up until the single LED moving sequence show as 100% charged on the AD600 PRO display and their own charging indication also indicates full charge. However, when reconnecting them to the C26 charger, the latter starts with only one or two segments constantly lit. It is a shame that none of these three charge indicators agree on any remaining capacity.
That event indicates that the charger has been unable to evaluate the charge level of the battery. And yeah, usually just using the battery or charging it on a different charger, or waiting and reseating it, or even leaving it on the charger for a bit will resolve this issue.
And the flashes themselves have Always been over generous with their evaluation of charge levels. It would certainly be nice if they all agreed with one another.
@@WesPerry Thanks, Wes! Much appreciated! I like the Godox equipment a lot; it could be excellent if they refrained from some unnecessary ("unnecessary " in the sense that I don't think that these measures were the ones allowing them to keep the price down to a significant extent) corner cutting here and there.
They’re very slowly moving up market, and seem to be leaving room for the likes of Neewer, Yonguo and GVM and such at the bottom.
Hi Wes, just watched your video and my only regret is that I didn’t see it sooner. Great video man. Btw, I left my AD600pro battery plugged in after charging and it drained the entire battery now the battery is not charging; do you have any idea what I can do to fix it? Thank you
thank you, awesome information
OMG...this was a 120 dollar mistake I just made on my two ad200pro batteries...I charged them up and left them stored in the charger (unplugged) for a year...no wonder they are dead now😢😢😢....I basically left my hamsters on the wheel till they died...im a terrible battery father😢
Oof, that’s a shame 😬
useful info again Wes! have you done this with those sony chargers - esp the mains powered dual plate chargers?
Nooooot yet 😏
Have you seen an error on a V1s saying, "contact after sales support" and showing a graphic of a battery with an AC plug in the center of it in the LCD?
I have never heard of this before 😬
i have the vc18 model for a v850 ii, and my charger just blink the power light red and doesnt charge, but when unpluggd keeps blinking... someone knows what can i do? =(
I wish I found this sooner! I charged my 400pro battery and just unplugged the AC portion now it appears to be a completely dud
Yeapppp
I forgot my ad200 battery on the charger a few days ago and it took a while to resuscitate after 🤦🏻♂️
By any chance, would you know the inner workings of the G6012L3 charger? Mine does not show the power light and does a sample hit at 15 volts or so and back off every second. does not display the red LED or the green bars at all. Curious if you've gotten component level into these.
Great video btw. I had a lithium battery blow up a Nikon D80 on a shoot once in 2007. Luckily it just blasted the camera apart instead of starting a fire, but it smoked heavily for 15 seconds before so I just held it by the strap out to the side.
I plan on going component level on a few things this winter when I have a little more time ;)
They overcharge the lithium batteries. Naked output creeps up to 4.5V 😮😮😮 per cell, 4.2 is absolute max 3.8 to 4v is full for most lithium ion cells.
hola cuando tarda en cargar la batería con el cargador de la pared ? ósea cuando la batería esta baja aparece la luz en rojo cuanto tarda en pasarse la luz a verde para saber que esta cargada ?
man made 11 minute video on something that coulda been summed up in 2 minutes
i buy a Godox V860ii at the first charge, the battery doesn't charge... please any help
Leave it on the charger for 24 hours. If it does start charging, contact the seller for a replacement.
I have strange issue with my c20 charger - it out of the blue started blinking power lad red, when plugged to ac, and nothing is happening when i put the battery in
Hmm I haven’t seen that one before. I assume it’s an internal charger failure, unfortunately? 😬
@@WesPerry looks like it, no reaction to the battery installed, just power led blinking red, was not able to google any error codes, it says on the charger - all leds blinking, if error, but blinks only this power one
Hello there great video...I have a V26 charger and two new batteries and none of them are charged.....I got 4.9 output voltage .....so the charger must be out of service i assume ins't??
Possibly. Try it with different cables and chargers first though.
My c29 charger stopped blinking, although my ad200 battery still works. I hadn’t used it in months tho, did that destroy the charger?
Wes, if I use a different power cable with these chargers would that be dangerous or damage my equipment in any way?
Nope. A figure 8 is a figure 8 connector. Just make sure if one is polarized (one side is square) you use a polarized cable on it likewise. But it’s all pretty standard stuff.
So Wes, I have 4 V1's and 2 AD-300 Pro units and 4 Canon Flashes that I use rechargeable Eneloops in. Would it be better to just use the rechargeable AA batteries in the Canon units and get rid of the Godox units, or do you see the Godox as an acceptable safety risk??? I have been on the fence for about a month on weather to get rid of the Godox and keep the Canon or visa versa. Great Video's! Thanks
I wouldn’t consider there to be much of a safety risk at all as long as the advice in this video and in my previous Godox Batteries video is heeded.
You did not mention the ad1200
I’m afraid I don’t have enough money to even Look at it’s charger, let alone cut apart and test it 😂
The content I didn't know I needed
Glad Someone is enjoying this nerding about 😏
Great info, Wes! Thank you!
I have an AD 1200Pro that I've only used a few times, and today when I went to charge the battery after not using it for about 1 month but I left it at about 50% charged , the charging block showed solid green lights. I found it unusual that there was nothing to charge. So, I slide it into my Ad 1200pro, and nothing. As if I have no power. I then noticed that the battery also has charging lights but it shows nothing.
I'm going to check with B&H if this is still under warranty.
Is it possible that the battery drained ( not in the unit) and now it won't charge?
Thanks in advance!
That certainly sounds like what happened 😬
What about theG60-12F3 I have for AD600? Do I have the correct charger? Thanks!
I have to assume that it’s internal design is Very similar to that of the 600 Pro charger.
wes-always helpful. that is why i am an appreciative subscriber. i have the V1's MC26 plugged into the VC26. But I see NOTHING lit on the bottom of the VC26 charger. It is not red (usually a sign the charger is working) nor is it green (usually a sign the battery is fully charged). Unfortunately, NOTHING is lit. Huh? (and, of course, even though I am a flash newbie, I actually have a headshot gig tomorrow morning!) Any and all thoughts are greatly appreciated. stay well.
First things first, check your usb power supply and cable to make sure they’re working correctly (replace them if you have extras).
Does the battery work in the flash?
@@WesPerry hey, thanks for getting back to me. i apologize for my desperate tone! i have two V1's MC26s. One is three bars and ready for tomorrow's shot. It is NOT in the V1 as per your Godox battery YT vid. The other MC26 is at 2 bars. I thought it was at one bar when I put it into the VC26. When I put the MC26 into the VC26 there were no lights on the bottom of the VC26. When I gingerly moved it, there was a red light but only for a moment. I could not get the red light to stay lit. The when trying it went green! I could not get the green to come again. As for swapping out the USB cable, I have EVERY other version of a USB cable except the USB-C that came with the V1. Ugh. ;-/
If you have two V1’s does that mean you have two chargers? Does it do the same on both?
Can you please review or tell us your thoughs on the UC29?
I’ve had a hard time getting one in Canada for a reasonable price. Probably a much safer bet than the stock model, but will likely charge much slower (which is good Most of the time).
Hi Wes, Just wondering if there is a charger you would recommend over the C26 charger?
There isn’t really any other option. There’s a multi version but it uses all the same circuitry
Powerex (Ni-Mh) recommended charging once a month regardless of use.
What do you think about that and doing that with Li-on also.?
That really just depends on the internal discharge rate of the individual battery. Most lithium ion batteries are good for 2-3 months without use. But that's removed from the device and stored in a cool, dry environment. When still attached to the device, all bets are off.
My charger flashes through each percent light and keeps on looping. Does not charge what so ever. What could this be?
How long have you let it do this for?
@WesPerry I don't know, not long at all but it has never worked.
@erikbogardi2931 if the battery is very low it can take as long as 3-4 hours for the first charge level to be reached, as the charger will sometimes charge it very slowly.
@WesPerry just got back home. Luckily or not, I forgot to turn the socket off, so it has been charging but no signs of life, completely dead.
I was just researching the AD600pro and a lot of reviews on B&H Photo's site cite battery issues and has made me wary of buying one. Do you think the way they charge their batteries could be the issue since these chargers are this bad? Is there a third party solution for Godox batteries?
There is no third party solution that I’m aware of, unfortunately
Hy, my godox vc26 stays green even on charge
Did you deplete it much? It won’t even try to charge until it’s below what seems about 85 or 90%
Any info on the AD200 multi battery charger? Think it would be the same draw rates?
Yeah, it most likely has essentially the same controller as the single. I’m afraid I don’t have one to test to be sure, though.
Usefull stuff brother
Thanks!
Batteries should never backfeed into the charger. The lithium charger should just shut off. I don't yet know of any lithium battery that has a self discharge rate. I understand the self discharge rates of NiMH and Lead Acid but not lithium. I know the need to have a management chip to protect from over or under discharging and this could be the discharge you see. On their own there is no measurable self discharge. They don't work like Lead or NiMH. Maybe a diode could be inserted so there is not back feeding. Trickle charging lithium is dangerous. They will continue to accept a charge if you feed it one. It won't self terminate. Trickle charging is old tech for lead acid and maybe NiMH to keep them fully charged but no no no with lithium. A lithium battery has to be seriously overcharged but make no mistake, overcharging is dangerous even at micro amps.
Hi, have you ever tested whether the ad600 can be used while the battery is getting charged? Just like we do with a cell phone.
That’s a big nope
Both because Godox says nope and it’ll build up too much heat and damage the battery nope.
Early cell phones actually weren’t supposed to be charged and used as a phone at the same time (like even up until the iPhone 4 era it was in the fine print to not do that). Too much heat buildup.
Modern phones will immediately limit charge speeds to manage heat buildup to prevent this.
Thanks for the reply. I have the ad600, 200 and a v860ii, none of the batteries get hot while charging or while in use. The v860ii has gotten hot a couple of times and missed fires but the battery didn't get hot. Anyway i trust your expertise more. 👍🏼
Can the battery be charged in the flash or does it require external charger?
Only externally.
Can I use a higher output wall wart to charge V1 battery faster?
Nope
It’s just slowwwww all day long
A little annoying. All the other Godox batteries charge much faster by comparison.
Is it safe to leave the batteries in the flash-units themselves after they are charged 2/3 for storing ?
On the flashes with a hard switch, it’s reasonably safe, but it’s not recommended by the manufacturer. You’re supposed to take them out.
Hi Wes! I have a different issue with a Godox product, since you seem to understand pretty well how these batteries work I was hoping you could have some important insight on my battery as well.
I have a Godox Tube LT60, actually 2 of them. They still pretty much brand new, one is charging normaly but the other one not. I can only use it while plugged directly from the charger. I left the tube light on charge for several hours, and the battery was still indicating drained. When I unplug and swith it on, it only shows the battery drain sign. However at one moment only, after all the charging and unplugging, I switched it on and the light came out just for seconds.
Any idea what should I do to fix this charging issue?
I can not return the unit since I bought it from an electronic auction house, with a no return policy.
Hmm that’s a shame. I’m having a similar issue with a big Pavotube. I took it apart and found it was a pinched wire due to the very thin form factor. But it’s hard to say what your problem might be. Could just be a bad battery, or a loose/pinched/bad connection. Unfortunate.
Thanks Wes for your reply, I really appreciate. I will try take my tube apart too and see what's might be the issue. If It's something I can fix, good. if not, I will just keep using it plugged as it does work that way.
Thanks again
What happened to diodes?
Apparently they’re too expensive? Haha
But seriously, the chargers need circuitry that monitors the charge levels and cell health of the batteries, and that does require a certain amount of current to be siphoned off. But it should only be done for a short measurement, not constantly.
I have a question - and it's the behavior of my new XPLOR 400 pro light's battery. When received, I charged it fully before using it. Then, after using it for a fairly short amount of time, it indicated no bars and needed recharging. I recharged it 100% and only after about 10 full power flashes, it was already down to 2 bars. I decided to recharge it again to 100% and only then did it begin to behave normally/as expected. Do these batteries take some conditioning when new to hold a full charge?
Which power meter were you reading? The one on the battery, the charger, or the flash? They often disagree with each other 😂
@@WesPerry The one on the battery and the one on the flash were pretty much in agreement. And, when putting the battery on the charger, it also showed about the same loss.
I hate to say it, but Godox products are not that great at monitoring their battery capacity. I have no great answer for you overall, though. Hopefully it behaves itself from now on.
@@WesPerry you should never hate saying the truth!
@@WesPerry Thanks. Me, too. This is the first Flashpoint (Godox) battery that has behaved like this for me.
my godox v1 battery charging led shows only green light constantly. how do i know whether it’s fully charged or not.. help me please ..
Green means charged, red means charging
but when i put in speed light it shows only two bars though i am charging since 4 hours i am confused
It would seem the charger isn’t making good contact with the battery and possibly not even trying to charge it.
so what might be the solution sir
Just make sure the battery is getting all the way into the charger, and also try different wall adapters and charging cables to rule that out.
Is there any other charger we can use instead of godox charger, so it dont deplete the battery while still connected to the charger?
That usb based godox ones don’t seem to back feed. But I haven’t been able to get ahold of the ad200 ones in Canada yet to test them. I just got the one for the AD400 and 600 so we’ll see about those soon. 🤞🏻
@@WesPerry Which usb charger is it? I have ad400pro and already destroyed one battery
@@WesPerry godox uc46?
Yep! Just arrived the other day. Now I need to break it 😂
Hi Wes, I was just wondering about the multi charger for the ad200/ad300 batteries. The one that lets you charge up to six at once. Is this any different and or does it solve any of the problems? Thanks
Unfortunately I don’t have one...and don’t really want one. Haha
It certainly Looks like it would be the same, but I can’t say for certain. I was thinking of completing my charger collection for another video, but there were a couple I couldn’t get in Canada, so I gave up on that idea.
I just bought V1 and the battery isn’t going above two bars, no matter how long I’ll leave it on charging. Does anything else had the same issue?
Is the charger showing fully charged, or green?
One issue I’ve had in the past is that some bad usb chargers don’t put out a full 5V, and the charger itself seems to base whether or not the battery is charged on a differential between the battery and the source voltage, so a poor usb supply will result in a not fully charged battery. Try a new usb source maybe?
@@WesPerry yup, the charger shows green light so I’m bit confused at this stage that why it’s not going above two bars. Thanks for the tip, I’ll try to charge it with my laptop tomorrow, hope that works.
Not all laptops will supply a current to a device that isn’t smart enough to do a handshake, but it could work.
@@WesPerry I’ll try few other sources as well. I feel like battery is faulty and I might have to buy a new one. Your video is really helpful for me to understand how to take care of these notorious godox batteries. Great flash, poor quality control.
Is it a VB26 or VB26a?
good video almost ruined min ad600 batteries.. since no shoots in a while they stop working.. i saw some video on youtube now to like short out the lead after u open it up and it worked like a charm.. so gotta go flash them ever couple days.. you still a nerd
Every couple days is a bit much, but definitely from time to time ;)
First 😅
Oh. It’s a race now.