Have Newcastle's 'Ashley generation' had enough? - BBC Sport
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- čas přidán 27. 09. 2018
- BBC Sport travels to Newcastle to find out what life is like supporting the Magpies under the ownership of Mike Ashley, who has been the subject of unrest from fans.
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The Sports Direct signs at the training ground make me sick to my core.
But he literally bought you a 40m striker
Aniket Kesarkar who is shit so fuck off
Do your basic Wikipedia research before commenting on Slowlinton's less than stellar impact at NUFC.
@@jasonenglish8133 not Ashley's fault. Manager wanted him the owner sanctioned the deal,do you expect him to do the scouting as well?
@@aniketkesarkar9967 The manager didn't want him. Before Rafa left Newcastle he said that he wasn't interested in signing Joelinton. Steve Bruce didn't choose Joelinton, he was a target before we brought Bruce in. The reason Ashley wanted Joelinton is so that he can sell potential young talent off for a big profit. He wouldn't have spent £40 million if he didn't think he could get a return on his money.
We went to Newcastle for an FA Cup tie with Luton Town last year. It's a fantastic City & club, has a massive local fan base and deserves better. While I don't agree with how unsustainable a lot of clubs have become & spending for the sake of it doesn't necessarily mean success, this club definitely deserves an owner that is willing to invest some of their big profit into the club squad/infrastructure or community.
The Honest Football Podcast damn right
I was at that games, you lot were very loud... until we started winning
Shit on Luton
WELL said
newcastle upon tyne is shithole compared to birmingham and other cities in the uk
I honestly have so much respect for Rafa , the mans won so much with huge clubs but what is he doing now? Scraping relegating at a club where the owner doesn’t give him a pot to piss in. I’m a Newcastle fan but honestly he doesn’t deserve to be treated like this.
itzmeherehi It’s Newcastle United, what can you expect from Mike Ashley?
itzmeherehi He is on £5m a year like
what that mouth do
@Marcus Marcus Shut up
@@calumrf0211 It doesn't matter. He could easily get more than that at a different club.hes a world class manager. There isn't another manager on the planet who could do as good as he has, simple as that. If you think otherwise you're an idiot.
The fans deserve better and Newcastle is a great club
I think he’s a selfish owner who don’t care about the fans the way he should....they want good players and he’s not providing that
It's not just that...
Takes the TV Money
Sold club shops to change to SD
Sold land around the ground
No investment in academy
No investment in training ground
Changed the name of Shearers bar
Sports direct arena
Every window ends in profit
St James Park falling to bits
Free advertising in St James
The list goes on mate. This is just the shit off the top of my head
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Yes because of course you run a business to please fans........if i was him id be doing exactly the same thing. You don't become a self made billionaire by being nice.
JAMAICA TV fuck off
You're right
As long as Mike Ashley keeps making a profit out of Newcastle United he's not going anywhere
Nufctoon112 so true
Nufctoon112 We have to boycott a game or two to make sure he gets the message.
Well who would if making a good profit. Its
I feel your pain, I'm a rangers fan.. Ashley should be banned from every club in Britain.
There's something going on with Morton now, pray for Greenock Morton if them scumbags get in there, I wouldn't wish him on any football club or business.
Fingers crossed that something VERY incriminating gets revealed about him one day.
He likes a casino, so hopefully some dirt involving that will get uncovered.
From paying we don't get relegated, to being 2nd in the Premier League after Boxing Day, This just shows that having an owner who cares about the club makes such a major difference.
Onwards and Upwards, HWTL
You fans need to stop spending money, Ashley is a profit man and if his profits drop he'll sell
J B subscribe to my channel and I’ll do the same
Well put ! The fans should walk and hit him in the pocket . I gave my season ticket up after Bobby left .
Bit hard when the club makes money off tv regardless
I’ve already got a season ticket, he has my money so why not turn up to support the lads
Well it's hard because Newcastle as a City is very different to most in the UK. It's a lot like Liverpool or Leeds to a degree where the fans would die for the club, Newcastle more so if anything because it's known for being a working-class area.
Sad situation. They've got to start boycotting games or at least doing walk outs towards the end of matches. Once that starts happening he'll see the club's value start to fall and he'll want to get out ASAP
his1ojd subscribe to my channel and I’ll do the same
The problem is with that is Newcastle fans are the strongest and loyalist fans you can ever get so it’s hard to do something like that
itzmeherehi I'm a Liverpool supporter and we did a walk out a few seasons ago to stop a ticket price rise and it worked. Yes it involves some short term hurt but in the long term the club and its supporters are better off for it. The situation at Newcastle is bad and you don't need me to tell you that the best thing fans could do for the club is to get Ashley to leave immediately. Ultimately Ashley isn't going to listen to protests if the money keeps rolling in, so the supporters have got to hit him where it hurts.
I'm not saying stop at a walk out, but they are a good place to start. One walk out at Anflield was enough to make the board change their mind about ticket price rises . So they do work. Seeing 20,000+ people leave a stadium at a co-ordinated moment is a PR disaster as it has more of an of an impact than protests outside of the ground as walkouts are picked up by tv cameras covering the match which in turn results in pressure from sponsors. If Ashley still doesn't do anything after a couple of walkouts then the next step would be boycotts.
Yeah I do agree with you in a Newcastle fan myself and I don’t go to matches for that reason like yeah we’re really loyal but we need to stop shouting abuse at him then feeding Ashley’s wallets
With infastructure like that and a fan base like that, it's astonishing this club hasn't been bought. With the right investment, the club can not only ressurect it's past but go so much further. I hope they become contenders once again, the fans and the city deserve it.
Mike Ashley is the epitome of everything wrong at Newcastle, and I say that, even as a Man United fan!
Some of the support at OT had the right approach and formed FC United of M'cr.
I honestly think after this season, if enough people are dissatisfied, vote with the feet and form FC United of Newcastle. In twelve years, they would make more progress than this club has done under the ownership of FCB....
@paul smith Sunderland fan. We dont expect silverware in the same way you dont expect wins in league one
@paul smith They weren't a yo-yo club like your red-striped shower. He's only stopped any debts by spending nothing. Any club can turn around its debts by picking up a PL cheque each season. Anyone who looked closely enough would clearly see he's nothing more than a chubby DelBoy toerag who likes a flutter down at the casino. That's exactly how he got Pardew in and on an 8-year contract, purely to pay off a gambling debt Cashley paid on Pardew's behalf.
If he was pumping your club up the rosette each season I'm sure it would be a different tune.
I can't wait to see the day he leaves, just to see all these supporters, currently defending the fat shit, soon having twitching ringpieces because he is coming with 3 or 400million to invest in their club.
You love the fat c*** so much, youre welcome him and his wealth anytime.
Just have a word with a few Glasgow Rangers supporters and hear what they have to say about his time at Ibrox. I've yet to hear a positive word from any of them, or anyone who worked at Sports Direct....
This just came up in my recommended The day I comment this, it is October 8th, 2022 and we are now 5th in the Prem and have a load of ambition.
How times have changed.
9 months on and we are in the exact place we didn't want to be in!! No Rafa no hope and no ambition!!!
All I can say is Ashley needs to go to save the club and to keep the fans, look what happened to us - From a Sunderland Fan
Future_ Ninth Newcastle will end up like your club, if we aren’t careful. At least we may get a derby again
@@tomjardine100 Yeah that will be the only good thing, however it wouldn't be good for us as we currently have a league 1 team and you have a prem/championship team
Future_ Ninth see you next year lad⚫️⚪️⚫️⚪️⚫️😂
@@tomconnelly3127 Yep haha
Future_ Ninth 😔😔
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Almost one year later and here we are in the same situation minus our world class manager who he foolishly let go again. Ashley had his chance back in 2012 when we finished 5th and had a great team to build on in Europe, who did he sign? Vernon Anita for £6 million.... Within a year, cabaye and demba ba left with no replacements and we sunk til we were inevitably relegated again.
And to people saying this is the last draw, shame on yous because yous will all be there first game of the season again. Cancel your direct debits like I did then he can't take money from you anymore.
2012 are the year im start to become newcastle fan untill now
I don't get why the Fa hasn't stepped in and required Ashley to either sell or invest from profits earned. Ashley has turned Newcastle into a championship side pretending to be a Premier League side when in fact before his ownership they were one of the biggest clubs in the premier league era
Moejii - you can't make someone spend money...
its none of the FAs business. the fact is its the owners prerogative how they want to run the club, just like any other commercial operation.
As a Liverpool fan I feel your pain.Unite and boycott games, merchandise etc etc. But what piss me off a lot is he let Rafa go and brought in Steve Bruce!
Replacing Rafa with Bruce is like shagging Michelle Keegan and pulling out to finish off in Susan Boyle.
I'm super happy for Rafa for the fact how the Newcastle fans are treating him. They both deserve each other. A very good manager combined with the one of the best fans in premier league. Just the sad thing is owner not keeping his promise and misusing the fans and the manager. You guys deserve much better things than this. Hope some days you'll be challenging top four again.
3:37 WOWWWWW
With Championship squad, less transfer fee than most championship club spent. It's a miracle nufc stay in premier league and rafa stays nufc.
Hes a business man not a football man.toon army is playing into his profit game by buy buying your merchandise shirts n season tickets unfortunately. But you're all standing buy your club through out..... true fans i have to say.
There's only one Stevie Gibson UTB
UTB
We do have the the best in steve gibson UTB
Yup they are. Unlike the boro who deserted their team until promotion was on the horizon again.
@@bornyesterday8976 big fanbase and a big ground doesnt make you a big club .1969 you last won a cup.thats not a big club .
It saddens me to say that I'll be leaving Newcastle United when my contract expires at the end of the season. The hierarchy of the club just isn't ambitious enough to take the club forward and unsupportive in my att
i just cant get over how he thinks hes bailed the club out by loaning them money, its his club you cant lend yourself money, besides he has had 12 years worth of Top advertising for sports direct inthe pl thats worth hundreds of millions,which he should pay newcastle for never mind they pay him a loan back.
loads of my pals are geordies and it is a disgrace what that ashley is doing to the toon. I have been to watch you guys home and away with them a few times and your fans are class. you deserve to be up challenging the top boys, your stadium and fans and history say that, lets hope ashley goes very very soon, respect to you lot. always a villan tho, utv
All fans who are planning to attend the opening fixture against Arsenal need to change their minds and not turn up...
Imagine an almost empty St James' Park live on the Sky Sports cameras, fat Mikey won't enjoy that sight!!!
Not really
the season ticket holders have already given him the cash ....
Furthermore 80% of matchday revenue is from corporate and exclusive seating, so even if the general sales don’t pay income is still being generated.
@@timknott5856
That may be true, but a stadium that's half empty won't look as good to Sky or BT.
Also, there hasn't been no where near the amount of season ticket sales as there was this time last year (according to reports).
So IMO, any little way the fans can make a statement will help the cause & make sure he hopefully f××ks off??!!!
Knowing this fat f***, he'll bus in a load of "fans" to fill the seats.
It'll be like seeing the scab workers brought into pits, past the picket lines and Ashley playing the Sir Ian MacGregor role....
Numbers I heard were in the region of 14k season tickets now renewed, away ticket availability for all matches they've put up so far and the loyalty points dropping quickly.
I'm old enough to remember the entertainers and Sir Bobby's teams. What times they were. I don't expect those times again, but christ, can we just compete with the teams around us.,and maybe build from there.
The big mystery with Newcastle United, is why and how have they not won anything since 1969? Having come so so so close in 1996/97 season as well as the two FA Cup finals, is it because they weren't meant to win anything. Had Newcastle United, won the premier league title 96/97 I believe that they'd have been the most successful club since Liverpool rather than Manchester United.
95/96 season :P 96/97 we made it into the champions league qualifiers on the last day if I remember right! Well it is right because I went to my first match against Croatia Zagreb in the qualifiers in the 97/98 season!
What about Hearts in Scotland? Even their fanzine was called "Always the bridesmaids"
If NUFC fell in a giant bucket full of tits, they would STILL come out sucking their thumbs or the baby's dummy at the bottom...
When everyone gets behind the National Team, they only have to experience misery bi-annually, whereas at NUFC, it's EVERY year, but you get to experience the same bitter disappointment.
It’s July 2019
Rafas left
Bruce appointed
Takeover is pretty much dead in the water
When will the FA take action
Shame they don’t have some money with Rafa they could challenge top 4... with money tho
Thank heavens he has gone it sounds silly but he has traumatised me how he unchallenged and uncaring just was content with us barley existing I remember going to games from 2007 to 2021 and wondering if Mike was ever at the club deciding on what was going on I’m sure he was unconcerned
So Rafa has left, tomorrow is the last day of his contract. What happens next is either going to break the club, or new owners will take us forward. If Ashley’s to sell, this is the year.
Vote with your feet like we did! It will hurt but stop going, all of you! Then he will have to get rid!
All well and good but where 1 walks out theres always 2 or 3 wanting their place.
Not if all season ticket holders dont go to one game to make a point. Ive been to Newcastle a few times as mates live there and people are always in the pubs before looking to get rid of tickets. Should all arrange one game to boycott and have a picket line outside!
I'm a season ticket holder and he's already got my money so why shouldn't I go and support the lads
@@mikesutton381 you get them at any game or even concerts. Its called ticket touting. But where thetes someone selling there'll always be a buyer.
Listen I m not telling you what to do! Ima Liverpool fan but like Newcastle! I just feel while the stadium is full the voice is weaker! Not necessarily affecting Ashley due to tickets and season tickets being pre paid, an empty stadium will draw the media more towards the club which will effect the club is worth and if that happens, he will get out ASAP!
When Rafa goes I really do think we will ended up playing in league 1 like Sunderland!
Arsenal fan here, but I feel for Newcastle as a club, one of my favorites back in the day with Nolberto Solano and Shearer and Owen when he was really good...now they are a shadow of that great club because of Ashley
Now they've got the richest owner in the prem 😂
That would be to good to be true
@@magscheshire8375 now ashley is gone
What do u expect from the sports direct guy?
This was from 11 months ago and still nowts changed and nor will it for a long time but the worst thing for me is my granda had loved going to st james park to watch Newcastle United since he was a Bairn and now he doesn't bother going any more to put money in fat cashleys pocket and this is the case for a lot of elder people and it's heartbreaking tbh
As a Born and Bred toon fan? I have stopped going to games for 10 years ago. Protesting and putting up Banners won’t do Shit? the only way to get mike Ashley out is to Stop buying tickets,stop buying merchandise and start boycotting the games. The Man is laughing at you fans. I love my club! but I am not wasting my hard earned money on games,just to see it go into Mike Ashley pocket.
Remember when Newcastle finished 5th in 2010-2011 just missing out on the champions league on the final day of the season. If they had an owner who cared about the club who knows what they could achieve.
Twelve places too high for Mike's liking.
Ricky Grimshaw 11-12
What a great club it was
The only way to hurt a man like mike Ashley is by the pocket don’t buy season tickets walk out don’t go back till he’s gone
Such a shame Rafa had to leave. Like at Liverpool, it seemed, Rafa had found a home/club and its fans who really suited each other and it is a sad parting for both him and Newcastle Utd's fans!
The fans need to persuade the players to go on strike if he isn't getting the money there is no reason for him to be there.
I wish Ashley would get behind Rafa we need to challenge again
Crazy to think with the players they've had,even recent ones, that they haven't spent more than £16m on a player.
I know it’s hard for a passionate bunch like the toon army, but you need to do SOMETHING. Last season we invaded the pitch, forced our owners out of the stadium, made a riot in our “stadium.” You need to do the same or simply just stop buying tickets
That's going to be impossible. It wouldn't work for Newcastle.
Aaron G why not? I agree boycotting matches is very hard for passionate supporters, but maybe cause a bit of havoc in the stadium like we did to get the message through.
True, but that's not like us. Sure we protested out of Sports Direct but we would never cause havoc. Why? Some of the players may feel threatened. And the worst thing is losing our star players for example, Dubravka, Lascelles, Shelvey, Kenedy(eh, not great recently,) and Muto looking promising. We're crazy but not that crazy.
Aaron G fair Enough mate, hope you get out of your situation
Feel sorry for Benitez, should have been rewarded not only with new contract but also financial backing to spend to drastically improve the squad who apart from Shelvey, most of them are at best championship players and not good enough at premier league level with another problem on the pitch is the lack of goals. If they are to get anywhere near back to where they once were, Ashley has to sell to a new consortium or new millionaire/billionaire business person who has football interest and go.
They think it's bad ffs imagine being a Bolton fan, a Wigan fan, a oxford fan....we missed all the good days
Difference there is that, however small, even both Oxford and Wigan have won a trophy at Wembley in the last 30+ years. Oxford were owned by an evil greedy thieving tyrant too, but least the red nosed bastard spent money on the team and had the decency to top himself when he knew he was in bother!!
Ashley won't disappear or die, just turns up with that smug Del Boy grin, thinking about where he's taking pintsize Dennis, Vardy and his chav bitch wife of Vardy's before the casinos...
We are not UNITED anymore
Ashley is a proven businessman and has put Newcastle on a decent financial footing. We all recall what happened to Leeds Utd during the Risdale era.
That said, it is inconceivable that Newcastle have been making a loss for the last few years. Not sure whether Ashley has been channelling losses through the club from his other business interests but the transfer record of £16m seems pitiful by today's standards so you would expect wage costs are not as high as other clubs that have speculated on big money signings. This together with the amount of money coming in from Sky or the parachute payments when they have been relegated makes you question these losses.
There seems to have been no to little capital expenditure on the ground or facilities and I am pretty sure there was no huge debt inherited when Ashley took over the club quite some time ago now.
What is also odd is that Ashley owns an asset that depreciates dramatically in the event of relegation from the Premier League. That value would go into free fall if Newcastle remained outside the Premier for a number of years. You would think he would want to invest in their squad to ensure Premier League status.
Countries FAs need to step in and stop these things from happening
The club's a mess back the boycott
2:47 I know these lads
Ashley was the bridge between Freddy Shepard and Amanda staveley pity the bridge wasn’t a stable one
Here man wa need Ashley oot. Let’s gan shout at shops man.
Treble Champions Again honestly man they’re fucking embarrassing
its called protesting, but you know that. Sit in against the Glazers!? - 'we need rid of the Glazers, lets sit down on the roads in Cardiff' - respect anybody that fights for their club.
What do we want ? ASHLEY OOT LOL
Hard to say this but the only way you will get rid of Assley is if not one of you turn up to the next couple of home games, its tough for the team and staff and the fans but its either that or a lynch mob.
Club is small change to Ashley, he will stay just to piss u all of. Get behind the team and a bit of success may get him to invest or better still, sell for a decent price as his house of frasier and debenhems venture will require lots of finance.
I feel for them. I’m a Leeds fan and we had Ken Bates who was right as fuck (a lot tighter than Ashley but I’m not here to be arguing over who has had it worse) so I get it, Newcastle deserve to be challenging at least 7th place
Wow wow wow non of tbis no more
*Bolton are crippled in league one but Newcastle gets the media's attention...*
Stop crying , atleast P.N.E are feeding you all
I feel bad for the fans
Especially when they're in the stadium
It looks like it's going to collapse any minute
They deserve better
Mike Ashley resume needs to get out of Newcastle United ASAP Rafa Benitez is Newcastle United hope
It’s time to boycott games... it’s not a club worth supporting under Ashley!
I just want to see my club compete with the likes of Everton and Leicester it would be a dream to compete with teams like Tottenham
Liam NUFC Newcastle needs change and fast, scraping relegation every season isn’t my idea of a good football club
Lee 1993 can’t even compete with Leeds United and Nottingham Forest
We are going nowhere. I was upset, devastated after Saturday when I left and I got so angry and annoyed with the team as they should have scored. Every one of these great fans are right. Either he invests or please leave he is disinterested and is letting us stagnate.
It's just a shame that Sunderland are a bigger club. Newcastle should be relegated for the way their fans drove Rafa out
Sunderland are the worst football team in PL history fact with the lowest points in the top ten 3x times Newcastle is the biggest club in the NE and the 3 biggest ground in the country 54k you muppet
It's ok I will manage new castle in fifa 19
Thank you blue omega
I'm an Australian Newcastle fan I am 44 yrs old and have followed them since I was 16 and love the club with all my heart ,there is no doubt Mike Ashley is the worst owner not only in the Premier league but in all of sports#cans
My Uncle Is A Newcastle Fan, GO NEWCASTLE!
Strong feelings expressed by fans. How much Wonga is enough, money speaks and ego and ambition can be a fine line. I enjoyed the period when KK managed the club, and he says support the club, what is going on off the pitch, well the tea lady was faithful and likely prayed for unity, but money can't buy you love.
I grew up.watching toons challenging for title and European places..now it's a mess..I can't believe they got relegated twice..and to top it up Ashley says he will.put every penny the club generate..I guess he literally means pennies.not millions
. Newcastle fans stay together and be tough..this nonsense will.soon pass away
And now your manager is Steve Bruce
As a Newcastle fan, people need to stop buying from sports direct house of Fraser if you want a Newcastle kit go to JD... ASHLEY OUT
There's clubs that have it much worst then Newcastle, do feel for them still though.
All cities have 2 teams and Newcastle has been fortunate to have one so can't understand Ashley's cowardice in investing even Glasgow rangers can go bust and you'll make cash
Really depressing
Santiago Nunez was Newcastles last great player and that's saying something
Im a Brighton fan but it is a little sad seeing what Mike Ashley has done. Really ruining a club with quite frankly a fantastic history. I'd be constantly fuming and angry until that man left my club
I've got videos of the good ol days , it's all part of the rollercoaster ride we should just accept it and get behind Brucie and the team lifes far too short to be moaning for success.
Try being a blackburn fan
As a Newcastle supporter since 1994, and ex-season ticket holder, I’ve now lost interest in football all together. I won’t dedicate any more of my time and money
We have great owners now
It's the same with Man U..
Sad.
Haha how? Idiot.. You've spent more than the majority of the other clubs. Shut the fuck up
You are sad you didn't get to spend your seasonal 100mil, we are sad we barely get to spend 10mil
Ashley Out don’t let this sink so like
Joshua Pilling subscribe to my channel and I’ll do the same
Even Danny ings is worth 20mil now... And Newcastle can't even spend that what the actual fuck
Why the hell would you buy a football club and have no ambition, no interest, no support to the team, no support to the club, treat the supporters like shite, WHY, we do not expect championship football, we don’t expect premiership titles, we just want to compete, finish in a decent position in the premiership, it’s not a lot to ask for.
2 years later and it’s still the same. The club is now in ruins. Depressing and no ambition.
welcome to 6 months in the future ahahagahahahaha utfm⚪️⚫️⚪️⚫️
@@benthomas703 ahaha thanks for reminding me I said this. Just you wait a little longer
I laugh at the Geordies reminisning about the `good old days` under Keegan and Robson. Remind me what they won again? Nothing that's what. They've won nothing domestically for 65 years and I cannot see them ever winning a major cup again.
People who buy football clubs are only interested in the money they can make and boosting their own vanity . They don't give a toss about the clubs....
Now Wor Rafa has been shown the Door , Wait for the Backlash It's coming Ashley .
I know its hard for fans but you have to stop going, I have and I will not got back until Ashley is gone.
Try having Ellis Short as an owner
The fans need to talk with their feet. Stop giving the bastard the money and he will soon change his tune. I know it's easier said than done, i'm a true fan of my club and don't want anyone to stop me seeing my team but think it's the only option toon fans have.
i feel sorry for these fans, i was there at st james park when my team chelsea beat newcastle 2-1 in sarris 1st season and the atmosphere and passion they show is a lot, that club deserves better than this clown running the circus
Imagine how Arsenal fans feel!
Imagine how we feel
I don't expect the keegan Robson kind of team results just a chairman that cares tries to be ambitious and a manager who has a clue