Forging a Roman Pilum
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2020
- This week we forged a Roman Spear and then put it to the test. We will be making some other spears in a coupe of other videos and then we will compare the difference between them.
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Materials;
Shaft; Ash
Main Material; Mild Steel
Finish; Beeswax, Linseed Oil
Now just Twenty Thousand more for my legion, LOL
The Pilum seems a more well-thought-out, professional design than a common javelin.
Heyy thanks for the teachings I will fix me a pilum my self to I really want to thank you my brother 💯💯💪💪
Impressed with the freehand straight line drawing.
Regardless of the rivet counters opinions well done guys ! Hell of a lot of multi skilling work needed to make each Pilum quite enlightening. 🏁
i tremendously enjoied this video ..very nice endresult
YES NOW TO GET THOSE PEKY KIDS WITH BOARDS!!
Nice job 👍
Very nice historical piece. It might interest you to know that the Pilum was made of a soft iron comparatively in the shaft. The idea was that once thrown it would bend on impact with either a person or the ground. Thereby deigning the enemy of the opportunity to throw it back at the legionary. I don't know if after the battle the Pilum were collected and straightened. However given the war machine that the Roman army was it would be a good bet.
they would also specifically target shields and there was a pointed butt cap on the end of the pilum that would dig into the ground which would make the shield carrier either toss the shield away or be at a serious disadvantage maneuvering the shield around defensively and would most certainly stop a charge
I think the idea of them being intended to bend has been disputed lately, can't give any specific sources, but i would bet it was people like Mike Loades, Matt Easton or Metatron. The argument was that many archeological artifacts recovered were in fact discarded, faulty examples.
It's not true it would't bend on impact
The thin shaft on the first half definitely makes me believe they would bend on contact.
Gah! The ferrule was what I wanted to see! Next video? What a tease...
I've never seen anybody forging the Spear Of Destiny . I would realy like to see someone forging that :) You can be the first on the web forging that :)
Great job 😃👍👏👏👏
very nice to see, great idea to create mass in that way you did in the beginning, gives me some ideas on how to make life a bit easier for myself, really enjoyed the video
To the next one
Cheers!
Valeu 👍 obrigado. Bom trabalho. Gostei do pilum, muito bem feito.
Buen trabajo! Quedo muy bueno💪
Awesome.....
Good stuff dude! keep up the sweet content!
The looks really cool you pelium.
I'm already in the process of making some Roman armor. with a helmet or as the Romans like to call it:
Lamina arma et maxillam galeam
Nice pilum :)
Valeu obrigado 🤠 bom vídeo parabéns 👏 o pilum foi a arma perfeita para desarmar um ataque inimigo romano. Devastador. O filme Boudiga rainha dos essênios mostrou o uso do pilum, liquidou o ataque dos mais bravos guerreiros bárbaros.
Please show how to forge that steel socket
Somebody needs a new bandsaw blade.....
Cheers,
Tom
Nice. idea for next project a pebnoscot double bow and trade arrow done the Viking way? Purty ok idea id say
after so long... finally
really nice job; however there is a design error. I'll explain. the pilum was equipped with 2 pins, one front in wood and one rear in metal. when the pilum hit the target the wooden pin broke and the metal tip rotated on the metal pin. in this way the tip and the handle were no longer solidly connected and becoming unusable for the enemy. moreover, it was more difficult to extract the pilum from the victim's body or from the shield or from the ground. thus became a hindrance for the opponent. but these are details that do not detract from your valuable achievement, congratulations. with best regards from Rome
completely true
This theory (the intentional braking of one pin) is not universally believed to be correct. There is considerable debate on whether the pilum was designed to bend on impact or not. I tend to believe that it was not necessary to have it bend --- a pilum stuck through a shield is not going to be easily pulled even when it's not bent (it tends to stick at the head when you're trying to pull it out), But the bottom line is you're not getting it out in the time between when it sticks into the shield and when the lines meet.
I think the predominate belief is now tending toward the "not bending" school, although there is certainly not consensus.
Wasn't the pilum suppose to have a breakable link or a soft shaft so the the pointed end was to bend or hang down so it couldn't be thrown back at the Romans?
Still it was a nice build.
That is a theory but there isn't really evidence that that was an intended design feature, there are pilums that a entirely case hardened and resistant to bending. Another theory is that due to the mass manufacture of the weapon cheaper metal was used leading to the softness of the shank as it was quicker and easier just to harden the tip then the entire spear
seems like the most efficient process would be to cast them in batches
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Iron casting wasn't a technology the Romans had or used at the time. Everything was forged.
Nice job mate. It did resemble a harpoon. Did you guys make the chain mail on the crash test dummy? If so, it would make a good video if you showed us how.
No i didn't make the mail, but i will need to repair it! some idiot keeps poking holes in it
Great. Make one for me.
Neat stuff.
Perhaps try making some plumbata's and testing them out.
Nice build! However, the music was so loud and repetitive.Cheers!
The more I think about it ...If I had any choice of a home defense (non projectile) weapon ..this would be it.
No swing involved ..just a single thrust. It's almost impossible to defend against. And the wooded handle gives you much more leverage & grip if say someone grabbed the spear end.
Bene fecisti, legionem nostram potes coniungere.
What are the mesurements
Lo tienes en venta?
9:00 I’m just sitting here like 🥴🥴🤤🤤
SENATUS POPULUS QUIRITIUM ROMANUS!
hey, what's the weight of your anvil?
Which one
6:16 where did you buy that thing
I made it, it's what we do :-)
@@phoenixforge5944 how, can you make a short video of it
Nice job you can do it better 👍 install some spring loaded kind of it will be much better
Nice job (+1), but AFAIK NOT QUITE 100% HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.
From what I remember of military history, the Pilum was primarily designed to pierce AND GET STUCK in the shields of the enemy's heavy infantry (not just to wound the soldier holding it but also to render the shield useless).
More specifically, I think you made the head too large and the steel shaft behind it too strong and hard ... AFAIK the steel portion of the shafts of pilum were deliberately designed to be thinner and softer so they would bend easily (and stay bent) under the weight of its own shaft upon impact with an enemy shield . . . the reason being to prevent the enemy from either being able to use the shield it was stuck in OR be able to effectively hurl it back at the Roman Troops. Thus, ideally it was only just strong enough to help the weight of the wooden shaft drive the point through enemy shields, and no stronger.
Quite ingenius actually ... a single use weapon designed to disrupt heavy infantry shield formations and that couldnt be readily reused during combat (but which could be gathered up after by the victor and easily repaired for reuse in a separate battle).
EDIT: As luck would have it, I spotted a good vid shortly after making this post that neatly illustrates my point (pun intended) ...
czcams.com/video/ZxY3CzN2Kkc/video.html
It will keel
Firts one!
Very loud music and a very quiet voice.
a pilum nem így készült - fa szeg , ólom súly ? - ellenség nem dobhatja visza
Very loud music and a very quiet voice. Balance it in the future.
Mi dispiace dirlo ma il pilum è completamente errato, innanzitutto il pilum era alto un metro e cinquanta, 60 cm di ferro e 90 cm di legno, poi aveva dai due a i tre rivetti di fissaggio, e sotto al cordolo di legno trapezoidale trenta giri di curiolo di cuoio che formava l'impugnatura per il lancio.
But it must be made from soft iron! It bends when breaking through a shield or chain mail, so that it is impossible to pull it out. Aww...