Thank you. I never understood why more roasters do not spend time making great decaf. It seems that decaf drinkers truly love coffee for taste not for caffeine
I drink coffee every single day and it's my favourite part of the day. I only ever drink Decaf. I managed to find an amazing decaf from The Coffeeworks called "Milk Chocolate and Caramel Decaf Peru" it is phenomenal. It's a shame nobody else has put in the effort to make a decaf that tastes this good. I highly recommend it!
Love this video. I had to stop drinking regular coffee because I was getting debilitating anxiety and migraines. I've found sugarcane decafs produce by far the best coffee. I really enjoyed learning more about the actual process and definitely appreciate when roasters invest in producing high quality decaf coffees.
Thanks, this is super informative. As someone who switched to decaf almost exclusively several years ago and misses the gorgeous flavours coffees can possess, the message that decafinating (with ethyl acetate as described) higher grade coffees will make roasting easier without impacting flavour is one I hope more roasters will hear.
If you research about sleep - caffeine is negatively impacting your sleep - independent from your perceived sensitivity to caffeine. For this reason, decaf only for me. The impact is remarkable. However, you should drink coffee (decaf) as much as possible because it‘s one of the few sources of anti-oxidatiants in our western diet.
As with everything, I don't think drinking lots of anything is healthy. You should get plenty antioxidants through chocolate, berries, nuts, greens, legumes, spices and herbs. No need to drink tons of coffee for antioxidants.
I am actually the author of the book The Confident Food Shopper. In my 2016 version, I write that ethyl acetate used in decaffeination is a petroleum byproduct. For this reason, it is not eligible for organic certification. I'm in Canada. I'm updating it. I'm not sure if that has changed... or if the version you speak of is? Would love to know.
It’s surprising to me that one of the biggest providers of decaffeinated coffee is Calfecol in Colombia and I struggled immensely to find decaf coffee while on my extended stay there!
I looked up ordering your decaf because good decaf is hard to come by. The bag was $18 with an additional $13 to ship to the States. Not worth it no matter how good it is.
Wow Now I'm curious to try EA Decaf coffee, but I wonder where I might find it here in Brazil. Generally Decaf coffees here are obtained through water based methods.
Ethyl acetate is better known in the West as nail polish remover. I'm surprised you're legally allowed to claim this is natural decaffeination. While EtOAc is less toxic than many solvents, I seek out decafs obtained thru Swiss water and CO2, neither of which leaves solvent in the coffee.
just off my 2-3 day caffeine withdrawal :'D not gonna start again. I know reserve the good stuff only for cappuccinos on Saturday. therefor no new caffeine addiction. And in between, Decaf will have to do
Got to be honest …. I’m here to learn and learning I am … I’m not a decaf only person, in fact probably the opposite historically. It has occurred that maybe I should spend the time on decaf that I have on just finding beans and roast and suppliers I like and repeat … So I started … or tried to at least … I should say I live in rural SW France so maybe some more modern stuff didn’t get here yet, but no matter, I have fibre broadband … Even then the range of stuff is limited and debatable… now I’m ok to buy a good few options, taste and mess about with brewing options then taste again … Thing is, everything I’ve tasted thus far seems to be trying to “make up for the lack of caffeine”. By roasting the hell out of it which just ends up with something that is all burn/roast/bitter then not a lot then more after bitter. Maybe ok if hidden under a milk drink, also just ok to drink one but not something you have in a jar that you will think “I really fancy a cup of …” So my question is two fold … Is it possible to get anything decaf other than the “over roast” option If so, where
Hi Mark. This is, unfortunately, quite typical, not just with decaffeinated options but all coffee! There are options out there though which will be quite delicious. In France, we’d recommend reaching out to Belleville Brûlerie, as they will likely be able to supply a very nicely sourced and roasted decaf option for you to try. Alternatively, we ship Europe- and worldwide.
I've been using Swiss water decaffeinated now for a little while but I have a curious problem: when I make an espresso grind and I add the steamed creamer, it does not float on the top like it does with regular espresso. I have no idea why. Do you?
Good information. I'm planning on picking up some decaf beans today so I can start having coffee in the afternoon. Generally speaking, I can't don't heavy amounts of caffeine after about 10:30-11 AM without getting super jittery. Unrelated, which French press is that on the table?
Is it worth buying ORGANIC Swiss water method Decaffeinated? I’m trying to reduce chemicals into my body. Have been told non organic coffee can have lots of chemicals in it?
Hi Helena - thanks for watching and for your question. The decaffeination method itself, be it Swiss Water, E.A. Sugar Cane or Superctritical CO2, or any other ‘natural’ method, will allow an organic certification to be carried over, so if the green coffee being decaffeinated was initially certified organic it can remain as so. Non-organic coffee may have been produced using chemical fertilisers or pesticides, this is true, but if the emphasis is on not wanting to imbibe certain chemicals it might not be an issue. If you wanted to support organic production processes in coffee for reasons of limiting exposure of these chemicals to the workers and native flora and fauna then it makes sense to choose organic. Not all our coffees are organic, and those that are aren’t necessarily certified as such, but if you wanted to learn more then do get in touch with our Home Brewing Helpdesk.
Well put it this way FOLGERS decaffeinates it's beans with the fruit based solvent Ethyl acetate so You might want to cut down on Your fruit intake because they are high in that chemical.
There are tons of roasters in the US doing EA decaffeination. Do you mind sharing which state you're in? That said, Workshop Coffee _does_ ship to the US, and I've had great service from them. I'm on the east coast, though.
Thanks, Brian. Descafecol are able to remove 99.9% of the caffeine with their process, but you're correct it doesn't remove all the caffeine, there will be a very slight remainder.
Ethyl Acetate can irritate the skin, eyes, nose and throat. * Exposure to high levels can cause you to feel dizzy, lightheaded, and to pass out. * Repeated contact can cause drying and cracking of the skin. * Long-term exposure can affect the liver and kidneys. Sticking with Swiss water method. No brainer.
Thank you. I never understood why more roasters do not spend time making great decaf. It seems that decaf drinkers truly love coffee for taste not for caffeine
I drink coffee every single day and it's my favourite part of the day. I only ever drink Decaf. I managed to find an amazing decaf from The Coffeeworks called "Milk Chocolate and Caramel Decaf Peru" it is phenomenal. It's a shame nobody else has put in the effort to make a decaf that tastes this good. I highly recommend it!
@@LoganScottY Thanks for the tip, just bought some to try myself.
@@tobz1000 How did it taste?
This explains why every roaster has many flavors of caffeinated coffee and only one decaf. Thank you
Love this video. I had to stop drinking regular coffee because I was getting debilitating anxiety and migraines. I've found sugarcane decafs produce by far the best coffee. I really enjoyed learning more about the actual process and definitely appreciate when roasters invest in producing high quality decaf coffees.
Thanks, this is super informative. As someone who switched to decaf almost exclusively several years ago and misses the gorgeous flavours coffees can possess, the message that decafinating (with ethyl acetate as described) higher grade coffees will make roasting easier without impacting flavour is one I hope more roasters will hear.
Thanks, Alex, we would hope so as well!
If you research about sleep - caffeine is negatively impacting your sleep - independent from your perceived sensitivity to caffeine. For this reason, decaf only for me. The impact is remarkable. However, you should drink coffee (decaf) as much as possible because it‘s one of the few sources of anti-oxidatiants in our western diet.
As with everything, I don't think drinking lots of anything is healthy.
You should get plenty antioxidants through chocolate, berries, nuts, greens, legumes, spices and herbs. No need to drink tons of coffee for antioxidants.
That was extremely informative. Thank you for sharing and we look forward to getting your decaf coffee here in the States West Coast!
Thank you, I learnt some stuff and really like the pretty decanter
7:30 is when the video starts addressing the title.
I am actually the author of the book The Confident Food Shopper. In my 2016 version, I write that ethyl acetate used in decaffeination is a petroleum byproduct. For this reason, it is not eligible for organic certification. I'm in Canada. I'm updating it. I'm not sure if that has changed... or if the version you speak of is? Would love to know.
I love how you take care of my science side of coffee - and also taste. Fascinating topic and so very well presented. Take care.
Absolutely fascinating - thanks for the informative video! 👍👍👍
It’s surprising to me that one of the biggest providers of decaffeinated coffee is Calfecol in Colombia and I struggled immensely to find decaf coffee while on my extended stay there!
That's often the case, Isabel - it ends up being exported given the higher price it commands.
I looked up ordering your decaf because good decaf is hard to come by. The bag was $18 with an additional $13 to ship to the States. Not worth it no matter how good it is.
You mentioned some kind of VEGETABLE COATING on the decaf beans: WHICH vegetables in particular - and are there any other products mixed in with that?
Interesting spin
Thanks for the explanation! I'll be looking for some EA decaf here in the states.
Happy brewing, Bowen.
Wow Now I'm curious to try EA Decaf coffee, but I wonder where I might find it here in Brazil. Generally Decaf coffees here are obtained through water based methods.
definitely going to try. excellent video you guys!
Thank you, Dan. Be sure to let us know how you get on.
A bit off topic, but I just love that yellow mug!
Could you share where it's from?
Very good video
Ethyl acetate is better known in the West as nail polish remover. I'm surprised you're legally allowed to claim this is natural decaffeination. While EtOAc is less toxic than many solvents, I seek out decafs obtained thru Swiss water and CO2, neither of which leaves solvent in the coffee.
just off my 2-3 day caffeine withdrawal :'D not gonna start again. I know reserve the good stuff only for cappuccinos on Saturday. therefor no new caffeine addiction. And in between, Decaf will have to do
thanks much appreciated
Does the Colombian decaf you're talking about, come in a honey process variety?
Got to be honest …. I’m here to learn and learning I am … I’m not a decaf only person, in fact probably the opposite historically. It has occurred that maybe I should spend the time on decaf that I have on just finding beans and roast and suppliers I like and repeat …
So I started … or tried to at least …
I should say I live in rural SW France so maybe some more modern stuff didn’t get here yet, but no matter, I have fibre broadband …
Even then the range of stuff is limited and debatable… now I’m ok to buy a good few options, taste and mess about with brewing options then taste again …
Thing is, everything I’ve tasted thus far seems to be trying to “make up for the lack of caffeine”. By roasting the hell out of it which just ends up with something that is all burn/roast/bitter then not a lot then more after bitter. Maybe ok if hidden under a milk drink, also just ok to drink one but not something you have in a jar that you will think “I really fancy a cup of …”
So my question is two fold …
Is it possible to get anything decaf other than the “over roast” option
If so, where
Hi Mark. This is, unfortunately, quite typical, not just with decaffeinated options but all coffee! There are options out there though which will be quite delicious. In France, we’d recommend reaching out to Belleville Brûlerie, as they will likely be able to supply a very nicely sourced and roasted decaf option for you to try. Alternatively, we ship Europe- and worldwide.
Light roast decaf specialty coffee is definitely available and delicious. Do recommend trying out Workshop Coffee's recommended roaster.
I've been using Swiss water decaffeinated now for a little while but I have a curious problem: when I make an espresso grind and I add the steamed creamer, it does not float on the top like it does with regular espresso.
I have no idea why. Do you?
Good information. I'm planning on picking up some decaf beans today so I can start having coffee in the afternoon. Generally speaking, I can't don't heavy amounts of caffeine after about 10:30-11 AM without getting super jittery.
Unrelated, which French press is that on the table?
Is it worth buying ORGANIC Swiss water method Decaffeinated?
I’m trying to reduce chemicals into my body. Have been told non organic coffee can have lots of chemicals in it?
Hi Helena - thanks for watching and for your question. The decaffeination method itself, be it Swiss Water, E.A. Sugar Cane or Superctritical CO2, or any other ‘natural’ method, will allow an organic certification to be carried over, so if the green coffee being decaffeinated was initially certified organic it can remain as so.
Non-organic coffee may have been produced using chemical fertilisers or pesticides, this is true, but if the emphasis is on not wanting to imbibe certain chemicals it might not be an issue. If you wanted to support organic production processes in coffee for reasons of limiting exposure of these chemicals to the workers and native flora and fauna then it makes sense to choose organic. Not all our coffees are organic, and those that are aren’t necessarily certified as such, but if you wanted to learn more then do get in touch with our Home Brewing Helpdesk.
Well put it this way FOLGERS decaffeinates it's beans with the fruit based solvent Ethyl acetate so You might want to cut down on Your fruit intake because they are high in that chemical.
What type of equipment can be purchased for steaming the coffee and then submerging the coffee into the ethyl acetate? on a lower commercial scale.
Thx for this. Do you have a link where this type of decaf can be purchased online and shop to the US??
There are tons of roasters in the US doing EA decaffeination. Do you mind sharing which state you're in?
That said, Workshop Coffee _does_ ship to the US, and I've had great service from them. I'm on the east coast, though.
Great video - does it really eliminate 99% of the caffeine? I had heard that it was impossible to get all of the caffeine out?
Thanks, Brian. Descafecol are able to remove 99.9% of the caffeine with their process, but you're correct it doesn't remove all the caffeine, there will be a very slight remainder.
Do you find that Decaf decreases hunger more than caffinated?
Ethyl Acetate can irritate the skin, eyes, nose and throat. * Exposure to high levels can cause you to feel dizzy, lightheaded, and to pass out. * Repeated contact can cause drying and cracking of the skin. * Long-term exposure can affect the liver and kidneys.
Sticking with Swiss water method. No brainer.
Causes high blood pressure why?
FYI - Swiss Water Decaf isn't done in Switzerland, it's in Vancouver Canada...
It's just a process. It's done all over.
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