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- It may not be as effective as steel plate armor, but if I were in one if these tanks, I’d be piling on every last sandbag I could find!
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Imagine being a German tank crew and seeing a Sherman tank covered in furniture
Willhelm would be side eying the cope cages on their Panzer 4
"Hans, ze couch panzer 12o' clock!"
Franz shot it on turret
No way it's gona hurt crew
But flush them out
The Ikea tank 😆
This is how I imagine Swedish tanks if they have Ikea as their armament partner
"Sir, the MRE armor is very practical and necessary, trust me, it'll protect us. The missing ones? Yeah...."
😂
One comment? Let me fix that
At the very least it provided moral
me:*casually eating some armor*
@@LycoKodoshut up. You’re really not cool
"But Patton, this armor is ballin'."
😂
*mean while the tank: covered in balls*
patton: fuck he's not wrong
And I'm sure Patton would have slapped that soldier for calling him just Patton, without rank or sir, knowing him ego
"Yeah you right, this tank is W from Ohio, carry on"
@@garmenlin5990commenter's mistake
Patton : don’t cover in wood
Patton: use the bodies of your enemies
That's actually not a bad idea, but probably a war crime 😂
@@xraystudios3693not a war crime if you won the war !!!!
@@kaybevang536 It's entirely dependent on what the media says
@@xraystudios3693 How though? They're already dead?
@@HentsSauce idk but wearing disguises is a war crime and so is using hallow point bullets. War crimes doesn't necessarily mean horrible things, sometimes its some wierd rules by bureaucrats
"General Patton was not a fan of..."
Yeah sounds about right
What's more impressive is that he approved something.
Well ge was right... sandbags weigh a ton and wont help stop a shell going through it. He was a fan of adding more ARMOR
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305crews did whatever they could with the crude and limited resources.. the push into France and Germany happened so quickly and the Allies experienced heavy casualties
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305A lot of makeshift armor (such as track links) would often normalize the trajectory of incoming shells, causing them to become _more_ effective at piercing the armor by negating the benefits of armor slopes. Patton was absolutely right.
@@Chopstorm.Yeah old blood and guts wasn't riding in that tank though😂😂😂
I don't blame them for not wanting a painful fiery death.
@@jakemckeown9459 Bro how does some people like you act like kids
@@jakemckeown9459hyyyy how ya doin ya old troll.
@@jakemckeown9459man get to edgy ass outta here
@@elchicogore9517 I also do
@@elchicogore9517They are the top 10 Edgelords of history.
I just strap jerry cans to my m22 locust in war thunder and call it ERA
Genius
My guy, we are the same
Makes me wonder, would that have any effect in real life if you poured a tiny amount of gas into a shaped tub of reinforced metal? Isn't ERA designed to detonate upon impact anyway?
Same, though I did see them kinda work back in 2017 lmao
@@largol33t12 yes, but it also deflects or somewhat deviates the projectile away through the blast.
if you strip the front armor of a broken sherman and weld it onto a working one, you now have a sherman with thicker frontal armor than a panther
Sherman Jumbo back in the depot:`Am i a joke to you?``
Patton just didn't like that the soldiers had premium skins and he was stuck using the default
Blud hasn't bought premium 😵
World War 2 Plus@@peasantfarmerr8917
@peasantfarmerr8917 Ooooh premium soo special.
General Patton? Is that the same guy who scolds his men because they're look unkempt, and prefer that they shave and buttoned up their uniform?
General Patton, the man who realised his men were fighting on the wrong front.@@alienalchemist
As a tanker, I concur. We sure hate dying flaming, fiery, painful, deaths inside steel coffins. *Take it from me: Appliqué armor your tanks.*
Take my sub.
more like tank it from me
As a Scout I am obligated to disprove this message!
Having a premium subscription to War Thunder doesnt make you a tanker bud (jk)
@@kevinm.n.5158 damn you guessed it. But all I did was buy bushes
I went to a museum abaout ww2 once. Saw a hetzer with half of its cabin armour missing (like if the exterior just half disappeared). I wondered if that was an ammo cookoff or something, but it was too cleanly cut for it to be one. Now I understand, thanks.
Could have been a damaged one that had been cut for people to look inside.
@@kingtiger3390 No it was definitely an M4 Sherman crew who got creative😂
you don't have extra protection? There's a Sherman for that.
Regardless of whether it worked or not. I personally think it gave tank crew confidents and higher morale and that itself is worth it for the soldiers.
While it didn't work against conventional Anti-tank rounds, sandbags did do a good job in protecting against shaped charges such as a panzerfaust.
logs and wood in general would do the same job, be lighter, and easier to replace. Patton seemingly only disliked sandbags as additional armor since its massive chunk of weight for very little use. The armor plates, spare tracks and wood were all approved in the 3rd army.@@man-uk8cz
@@jaydeleon8094 Yeah makes sense, im just trying to provide that the sandbags werent entirely dead weight & provided a small advantage against ground units armed with light anti tank weapons.
Not a particularly great one though, like you did say logs significantly was more effective in stopping power.
@@man-uk8cz yeah you could get the same protection with scrap wood planks and similar, for a fraction of the weight. People just seem to not know what the hell a fuse is.
@@man-uk8cz I could believe sandbags helping against man-portable HEAT weapons, but there are certain things that don't work, for example Soviet "cope cages", which actually made the Panzerfaust's warhead more effective because of that little bit of extra space
Guaranteed as soon as Patton left that tank crew they were cursing him up and down and sure as hell weren’t gonna take those bags off lmfao
There are actually cases where the addition of armor made the tank perform worse and get destroyed more easiliy, atleast im pretty sure the concrete one made the armor worse than without it, if i remember the information correct from another video.
@@jophiohipthe concrete on the front of the tank would help stabilize any incoming rounds and therefore remove some of the advantage that the Sherman’s angled armored had
@@Militariadude08 thanks for the addion of this info :) !
Yeah. Also Tracklinks, horrible for the survivability. Made the armor signifficantly weaker. @@jophiohip
@@martinmorsch7507who said tank track made it worse ????you totally mistaken, some german tanks even put their tracks in front for the benefict of extra armour
> be me
> part of tank crew
> scared of fiery death
> idea.jpg
> put additional armour on the tank
> look at the fireproof armour my comrades put on the tank
> its wood
> mfw
they're afraid of a tank shell filling the crew compartment with spalling , not the tank catching on fire. you misinterpreted.
@@Zyzarda it's a joke. you misinterpreted.
@@Zyzarda Majority of the German tanks are using HE filler shells.
Spalling was the least of their concerns when they're all gonna be blown up.
History: WWII sand bag tanks
Russia: hold my vodka
“We dont have enough armor!”
“Cut down a couple trees”
“What?”
“Just do it”
Or:
"We don't have enough armor!"
"Eh, shoot your friends and take it from them."
"WHAT?!"
"Or wait for them to die normally. Look, it's what Patton wants, okay?"
@thenachosaurus4609aren’t sticks flammable?
Italy Sadie f@&$ it and put gasoline
And add these sandbags
Flame does jackshit to tanks thats mf'in goofy ass skinny as stick competkng againstt literal rolled homogenous armour @@tabbycat406
A Sherman wearing the face of a dead
Tiger or Panther for armor sounds so fucking cool
You are gonna love the Super Pershing then. Thing was up armoured by the crew welding pieces of a knocked out Panther to the front of the hull and turret.
@@TheGreatThicc yup! The super Pershing comes to mind when thinking of wearing the enemy’s face!
Your not gonna love m18 hellcat cuz it can one shot by german tanks like tiger, panther and Panzer IV ausf H/J but some you love it cuz it can one shot to Panzer IV, panther,TIGER 1/panzerkampfwagen VI
@@Federationursa I don’t think you worded that properly
@@cowerdnerddespacito9518 we maybe knowed that I'm not worded properly
Getting yelled at while sitting in your tank covered in sandbags mustve felt pretty silly 😂
Extra armor plating turned the tanks into Mad Max or Death Race lol
the ordnance branch did a study in ww2 that found the add on armor could sometimes even help a round penetrate the tank and/or it was pretty much useless. ..but at the bottom of the study it said basically "but the troops find it to be very effective and the moral boost is worth the extra weight"
The sandbags please the machine spirits and so we keep it on.
It's perfectly reasonable.
The "Rule of Cool" applied much more.
this is true
@@redcell9636
The thing is Patton never understood the concept of moral. He was puzzled by the notion his men were human beings with emotions
Except it would help with panzershreck and panzerfaust rounds and depending on the caliber he rounds they only tested against big caliber rounds and mainly ap
Imagine you hear BRING OUT THE DREADNOUGHT and it’s just a Sherman with an insane amount of armor plating welded on.
That's literally the Jumbo.
Sabaton
@@Necoy666they mean more than that not just a second layer of armor on top
@@AugmentedGravity unopposed under crimson skies
@@cookiekid0014 IMMORTALISED
I worked with a former Tanker, he said they would weld Ammo boxes and fill them with dirt and sand , then wrap the tank with wire mesh (steel wool) to disguise the extra armor from Gen. Patton.
bruh thats like putting jerrycans onto your war thunder tank
I mean they look sick as hell
Dying in one looks sick too
Like a bunker
I would love to see a game featuring tanks that allow you to scavenge the land around you to put on parts to the tank.
@@tonypeppermint5329 Great idea, thank you.
GMOD@@tonypeppermint5329
Some of that armor is equivalent to orks painting their vehicles blue
I mean the color purple worked well I still can't find those fuckers
@@Lordofhollows15 I was about to comment that!!!
FOR THE WAAAAAGH!!!
"Ermm, General Toftkem, ist zat a couch or a panzer?"
"Are you stupid Hans? Zat ist obviously a sofa"
If they just slapped a 3cm thick plate on the front of the Sherman, its armor would've been as thick there as a Panther's.
My grandpa served under Patton. He died a good few years ago but he was always so quiet until just before he died when he opened up about it. Was part of Normandy. Absolutely incredible.
I miss him. I was too young to realize why I should have spent more time with him. I regret it a lot.
My grandpa served in the navy on a minesweeper ship from 1942-1945 and sailed off the coast of Japan. I never got to hear his stories since he died in 2009 when I was 8, but my dad’s an army Vietnam vet who worked with HVAC on Danang airbase in 1969 and I’ve heard his stories all my life. Some of my fondest childhood memories are of my dad telling me about guard duty and some of the antics he was involved in. I’m an army global war on terrorism vet as well, I think it’s funny that I served during a war that essentially started when I was a month old in September 2001 lol.
Patton wasn’t at d-day
As a father myself don't worry bro he was just happy to be around you with the time he had left. No regrets
No he didn't serve under Patton. Stop lying
he fought for mixed race trans kidsbat drag shows
It's actually kind of cute that you have this little band of dudes going along in a tank, customizing it with whatever random stuff they can find. It's like those crabs that attach stuff to their shells.
E
Bro fr said their fear of having a slow, fiery and painful death on a metal coffin while trying to keep their mind together while they struggle to survive in a literal hellscape is cute
@@Skibidi_sigma_pomni420 It's brotherhood man. They're in it together, fighting the good fight
@@TheGreenKnight500 yeah
@@TheGreenKnight500Yeah and burning up together, aren't wars great, not.
Every time I hear the name Patton I think of Papa Nichols from Drake and Josh. "General Patton sir! I've just been captured by two German nerds!"
Usa! Usa! USA!
The germans did studies on this during ww2. The "extra armour" from tracks to sandbags actually made no difference to their armour, but did actually slow them down
Meanwhile in WT shooting someone point blank range
"No penetration"
bro iove wt
@@redmonkey4866 I know why but I still got to ask, why?
150pen Face 45 side armor
That’s why I uninstalled that POS, gunner heat PC will end up putting them out of business, anyone who thinks other wise is a wallet warrior snail simp.
@@scorchclasstitan6727sounds like a skill issue
The issue of putting "soft material", but more so, soft metals like a track... is that it could help an Armor Piercing round "bite" into something and align it's trajectory to actually damage the tank when it would have otherwise bounce.
"Spaced armor" the one approved by Patton actually works since it doesn't present that issue.
Or so I was told.
Hmm
It's not spaced armour just additional add on armour.
Spaced armour refers to armour ofset from the vehicles to protect against various lesser forms of munitions
@@l.a.wright6912brother spaced armor is for heat rounds/shaped charges
@lk_t5811 no it originally was made for anti tank rifle rounds. It was just later found to be effective against shaped charges.
What I was pointing out was that Patton did not discover this or even test it. He tested add on armour which is different. Op mixed up the two
@@l.a.wright6912the armor add-on shown was spaced, so, idk why you're getting defensive over something you yourself didn't work on nor Patented (pardon the pun).
Knowing Patton he probably didn't like improvised armor because it wasn't fashionable enough.
"It made the troops look shabby!"
I learned from your shorts that Patton disliked many things, at this point he sounds like a character.
Ah yes, the notorious "Free Wifi" wooden armor.
I think they used it against some specific type of weaponry, meaning the wooden protection on those police vehicles actually made sense
Its for RPG-2/7's lol. Especially the older ones that nobody believes would even work.
the free wifi inscription was humurously written by the philippine army ifvs during the siege of marawi. They used wooden boards as spaced armor as enemies are using rpg 7s and typical grenade launchers which the army is also usiNg. There were no widespread use of sophisticated atgms.
@@austria5892RPG 2's, not RPG 7's.
@@austria5892 the Maute terrorist group uses obsolete RPG-2s. There were no RPG-7s used by the terrorist. And BTW the Army's Scout Rangers used RPG-7s bought from Bulgaria for the first time in Philippine combat, but only as bunker busting weapon than anti-tank.
I love Patton, but sometimes the guys digging the ditches should choose the shovels
My sentiments exactly. Though in this case it would be, like, modifying the handle to be more comfortable or something.
A diesel loves her oil same as a sailor loves rum
Patton was right in the end - sandbags and logs especially provided basically nil armor for a non-insubstantial weight, slowing the tanks down (which in turn made them more vulnerable.)
@@maltewernerwoiske the logs weren't there for armor. They were lashed to the tread to act as "feet" for better mobility.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 Not to mention that in some cases it put extra strain on the suspension.
My great grandma served as almost an assistant for General Patton
meanwhile in central europe:
german tank crews:"hey engineer how much armour this thing has"
engineer:yes
I BELIEVE THAT IS MY GREAT GRANDFATHER! He told me a story about being yelled at by Patton after spending all day welding and on armor. He was 14th armored division c company and he was the youngest nco in the entire western theater of war. A company made a model out of this photo and they sent me the research to their photo and it was my great grandfathers tank company! Rip, love you and miss you ❤️
Getting scolded by patton himself, mustve been one hell of a story
DDDDAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEE
WE GOT THE GUY!!!!!!
we got the guy!!
that happened
@@benjaminfitzgerald2037 nuh uh
A wartike study showed that increased combat performance due to it making crews feels safer despite not helping actually protect them. Personally though, I like Patton's approach. He didnt bar them from adding armor, he only wanted to add *real* armor so they could gain actual protection.
It's a placebo that doesn't add protection but boosts morale, a concept Patton somehow couldn't grasp
The us and german army both did studies and came to the same conclusion. To provide real world protection at medium ranges the armor values of the tanks would have to more than double making them effectively immobile.
The tankers would have preferred real additional armor too, but this doesnt exactly grow on trees, so they just improvised with what they had
Imagine the Germans weld a 50 mm plate to the front of their Tiger but angled 💀
It's a miracle Patton didn't get fragged
During the last months of the war in Europe when the Germans were essentially out of gas, man-portable anti-tank weapons like the panzerfaust and the panzerschreck became a major threat, particularly in close quarters such as towns and villages where the Western Allies were reluctant to initiate an attack. Both of these man-portable AT weapons relied on the Monroe effect to breach armor without the high kinetic energy provided by conventional AT artillery. G.I. improvised armor was reasonably effective against them, whereas such measures did little against the few operable and well-positioned Panthers and Tigers remaining to the Wehrmacht except to slow down the Sherman and make it even more vulnerable.
Some of it was, like the proper plates that were welded on to the tanks. The Third Army did a study during the war about it, along with several other US formations and found that most logs and sandbags added to tanks only made the panzerfaust more effective. Now you can call conflict of interest, Patton hated messy soldiers and equipment, but post-war testing of HEAT warheads showed the same results they and others got. The reason is because the early warheads didn't have any built in stand-off range like modern ones do. It was found that on average the panzerfaust performed better with a short gap between the armor.
The sandbags would be literally blown away by the blast of the explosives in the shaped charge, leaving a mostly clear shot to the armor only a few inches beneath. The logs splintered easily under the same blast. The metal plates provided a solid, rigid surface that the jet had to punch through first, before reaching the main armor and thus wasting energy. There is a problem here too, unless the plate was angled, and had nine inches of backing with something like sand or concrete, this also made the panzerfaust more dangerous. British tests suggested that single angled plates would need to provide THIRTY inches of stand off for benefit, meaning the tank would become almost five feet wider and the driver would be absolutely blinded by a massive chunk of steel in the way.
This is getting too long, but to add the caveat here, if the panzerfaust/schreck warhead hit at a sharp angle, sometimes there was enough stand off range to help. The sandbags did occasionally result in deflections that otherwise would have hit and penetrated. Neither of these effects justified the 10-20% increase in penetration power, because at too little of an angle, it meant the weapon would penetrate the armor when it normally wouldn't have.
It turned out the best way to avoid getting hit with a german rocket was to have the infantry in front, calling out targets to the tanks before they got within the hundred meter range of the panzerfaust. If you can't tell, I have too much free time on my hands.
@@MUJUNKY Thank you for explaining about the same as what I was going to explain.
I remember hearing a story a German told about when he was in the Hit-ler Youth. Him and his buddies would take out tanks with panzerfaust. He said one day his friend was running across the street to get a better look and angle on the tank down the street. As his friend was crossing the street the tank shot a round right between his friends legs.
"Grab your tools! reuse these destroyed tank's armour!"
Stick some MRE biscuit on top of the tank, and you get the most impenetrable armor on the battlefield.
Seems odd to see a kid in WW2 kit, then remember its way more accurate then the Hollywood old men in combat.
Just throwing random crap you may find just makes the tank have... 🌟Personality🌟
Personality is everything
you don't see any dead tanks covered in extra armor
I think the Chieftain recently did a video on this and it boiled down to the armour either being not very effective (sandbags) or needing too much to be effective (concrete).
However the psychological benefits were so great that they allowed the crews to modify their tanks like this. If the crew felt safe they were likely to fight better.
If the additions made the shells explode before actually hitting the armor, then they were very effective.
This guy "Patton scolded the crew"
94% of the viewers "Who is Patton?"
That is just the most Patton thing ever. Great general, but a nasty boss.
Bro really said "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" 💀
Being entirely fair, this did work out in some specific circumstances. This is why in that Marawi Siege in the late 2010s you saw AFVs with wood, plastic, and even cardboard bolted on to the vehicles and this provided enough protection from older model shaped charges.
I’m just imagining Patton going over to a Sherman crew being like a teacher that scolds you in the hall and saying “guys what the hell!? We’re fighting a war here not doing arts and crafts!”
Wasn't Patton a asshole in..general?
I dunno
Yes, a complete and utter bastard by contemporary accounts.
Churchill was another famous asshole. Except he was also dangerously incompetent. By incredible luck, he stumbled ass backwards to the right place at the right time.
Yes
But he knew what he was talking about when it came to adding protection to their tanks. And it was true that they added to much weight and didn't provide more protection.
So asshole or not for certain things he sure was a genius.
@@MNM-lq9te I can understand the logs, but every other method seen besides maybe track linking seems like welding on more armor would be more effective. Maybe it just didn't cross people's minds to do that. Logs would be pretty easy to do and also had other practical uses, but the frames to throw on sand bags and concrete would have to be custom welded and attached, and tank tracks would have to have been scrounged somehow.
Most of these Sherman modifications would lead to the Sherman Jumbo, which is the heavily armored Sherman variant used by the US in WWII
There was an upgrade mod made to the T-55 tanks of the Warsaw pact armies, that added some simple spaced armor around the turret. When NATO got a chance to look at one such tank they were amazed to find this spaced armor was hollow inside! But later, when they got a chance to test such a tank with NATO anti-tank rockets, it was found this simple hollow armor was actually quite effective against many man-portable anti-tank weapons and was able to prevent many of them from penetrating the turret.
Concrete hits different
“Fuck it, If you you want additional armor, it must be metal!”
-General Patton
The Germans actually scientifically tested weird improvised armor like sandbags and concrete and even track links and found them to have no significant added protection against armor piercing ammunition
The biggest advantage of sandbags to the Sherman was to prevent the small arm rockets like the panzerfaust from instantly being able to destroy an early m4 model since they had terrible ammo protection
The Russian did too, but they still add random stuff cause it give the tank crew extra courage to rush forward. You can say these stuff is like the fancy skin that add zero armor value, but add mental strength.
@@CSRIexcept a panzerfaust crew would never be stupid enough to attack the front of the tank.
The main addition was moral support to the crew.
Sand bags for the driver may protect from small arms when he's open hatched
@@CSRIunfortunately it had the opposite effect. DOD ran tests and found it actually helped the early heat projectiles fuze easier. But seeing the morale boost it provided they decided to withhold this information
At least he scolded them for being inefficient rather than just trying to stay alive.
So true, I mean, we only have one shot
These boys sprung for the premium cosmetic bundle during the holiday season discounts!
i am really a fan of these additional armor, it provide not only some kind of protection but it gives personality to the tank
I was a modern US Tanker in the Abrams and we have carried on my traditions of the WW2 Tanker. My favorite was the tanker boots, during WW2 the US tank crews saw the infantry boots were falling off the infantrymans feet so in order to help out the tankers took their laces off their boots and gave them to the infantry. The tankers then used their belts to fasten their boots. Thus the tanker boots were born. Tradition holds that unless you deploy on your tank with your crew OR Q1 on qualification with your crew on your tank you can't wear the tanker boots. Most all tankers if we someone wearing tanker boots and they didn't earn them we hold them down and cut the straps.
That boot "tradition" was made up whole cloth sometime in the 90s. Prior to that only the 2nd Lieutenant had to earn his boots because he had not surmounted Misery, Agony, and Heartbreak like the rest of the tankers did at Fort Knox.
0 effectiveness. all they did was put some clotches on the sherman.
Patton was not a fan of this entire world, not suprised he didnt like this.
Patton: You telling you put actual armor on your tank instead of Logs and sandbags? FINALLY!
During the Marawi Siege here in the Philippines our military kinda did the same against the RPGs of The Maute Group (Isis inspired group.) they added wood, and other materials to thicken their armor. Some legends even Painted "Free Wifi" on them.
That was actually effective against the early RPG 3 warheads, but if it came to actual protection against AT shells from other tanks, the protection was marginal at best compared to all the additional weight
@@Charles-Athey were useing rpg 2 not 3 and if im not wrong used cheap HE vertions not HEAT
@@nikolaideianov5092 Thanks for the clarification
I believe this was from The Chieftain but the improved protection using sandbags, wooden planks or track does more harm than protection against enemy shells.
Not shells but heat projectiles like the many AT launchers available at the time
@@Doc_Paradoxand also the shells, because it's too soft to bounce the shells, so it would either lead it much closer to a 90° armor hit than it should've hit without it, or nothing changes, which still means they are dead
Man you should have warned german tanks that put tracks in front of it as part of extra armour.Ex:Panzer IV and Tiger.They did this for pure added armour
@@pecetabla8042when you put couple inches of armour on alrrady flat surface, it stays flat or 90 degrees, thats why Panzer IV has track in front of it, extra armour
Ah yes, wood so you don't burn. Genius
Do you think some wood is gonna burn through steel....?
"With all due respect, sir, you don't have to worry about dying."
Patton may have been right for more reasons than that. A fact I've heard (but haven't checked, so take it with a grain of salt) is that add-ons like logs and sandbags could actually help an incoming shell penetrate angled armor by helping it normalize against the angle, similar to how the cap on a capped AP shell works.
Tests conducted had shown that did happen.
It was even worse for HEAT rounds from panzerfausts, since it made them much less likely to deflect,. It also increased the standoff distance to a more optimal location that made penetration of the actual armor easier. .
Maybe the moron could’ve pushed for better equipment for his soldiers that actually died obeying his command than scolding them for wanting to not die.
If you bothered to do any research, you would know that he did just that.
Patton was a big believer in improvements that actually worked, like adding on additional armor plate. He instructed that add on armor plate from wrecked tanks be salvaged and and used.
@@scottydog1313W.. What..?
You know how HEAT works, right? A chicken wire mesh could prevent Heat from penetration.
Besides, German tanks mostly used APHE, some variants also opting for BC, however there were very few variants that utilized HEAT. Now the STUG and STUH assault guns did, and were common ambush tanks. They'd have a hard time with a log equipped Sherman.
that tank crew must’ve gotten PaTtonSD after that scolding lol
Patton was a smart guy, he got to a general position!
88mm canon there like: "hold my beer"
Many years agp I worked with an old guy who drove a tank during WW2.he got injured twice the second time in a sheeran and both times he was injured by the Americans. So whether it be enemy of friendly fire tank drivers were definitely worried about a firey death. He also said you could tell a reintroduced tank by the smell of the tank.
Injured by the americans while as a driver for an american tank? I doubt it
@@prvt.harumi6821 you never heard of friendly fire in the fog of war. Unfortunately it happened alot during WW2. Plus I had no reason to disbelieve the guy especially with the scares he had.
@@mechsgtpuma938 friendly fire zwo times , and two times by his Platon? I call bs. One is already a low chance , and twice almost impossible. Wither youve got one of the unluckiest grandparents ever or youre making shit up
@@prvt.harumi6821 firstly i said he was someone i worked withand not my grandparent. I had no reason to disbelieve him. Secondly why would he lie about sothing like that. Unfortunately in war thede are many many unlucky people and the fact he made it home with the injuries he sustained id say lucky.
If you choose to disbelieve thats your progrative. I have been very privaged to meet many WW2 veterans from those who served in France, Netherlands, Germany, Singapore and Burma as well the Atlantic campaign as well. I believe everything they told me what reason is there to lie.
I'm guessing you're already familiar with the book "Death-traps" that is all about the Sherman's vulnerabilities -
Concrete would actually help incoming shells penetrate, as it would act like a ballistic cap for the shell
"I've seen some terrible things, mind"
"What, like three men burning in a tank going "uhhh"?"
“Sir, respectfully pound sand”
Or
“Wanna switch jobs?”
“We need armor so we don’t burn to death”
“Sir, where do you want me to put the firewood?”
“Perfect”
Kid you give me hope for the younger generations. Keep up the good work. And make sure your doing your pushups
He's one in several billion nowadays doubt there's much hope for the future
@@Hondaone1 sadly I believe your right
@@Hondaone1How many wars did your generation lose?
You grew fat and took too much
@@enlightenedpreparingep4006don't, he's a pessimist and pessimists are the downfall of humanity.
@@Hondaone1every generation thinks that its better than the one before and the new one
Tank crew: "But sir we are scared of Tigers and Panthers blowing up our Sherman"
Patton: "IDC! Just get the random stuff off your tank!"
Sandbags Sherman looks fire
I've certainly seem photos of many of these ''applique armors'' from WWII, but this is the first I've heard of Patton's opinions on the subject. Thank you very much!
As an Ex-Soviet Tanker I can safely say that ERA back when Russia was a threat it was great not seeing HEAT penetrate my fuel tanks and give me 3rd degree burns on my right leg
Creighton Abrams is known for adding several plates onto his 7 Thunderbolts. Patton flat out agreed.
Stuff like sandbags actually do the opposite as the soft sand realigns the round and helps it bite into the armor.
what would be a good commonly found material instead?
@@geronimo5537 Most well known generals preferred steel plates, spare tracks, or even logs instead
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“Oh look at the little tank omg look awww they’re stuck should we help them awww they also have sandbags the tank looks so cute awww”
What. the. actual. fuck
what?
@@textik5821 seeing a tank being protected by various objects would probably make more people want to kill the tank crew in a painful way
I think the Super Pershing takes the cake for slapping armour plating on to tanks.
On its mantlet, the crew litterally welded the front plate of a German panther onto it, and then got 2 boiler plates and welded them onto the front hul.
Those tropes who were in combat understood how to survive in combat did what they needed to do to live.
German tankers: *uses skirt armor to stop enemy rounds*
American tankers: *uses logs, track links, sand bags, and concrete to stop enemy rounds*
Soviet tankers: *uses infantry to stop enemy rounds*
This joke never gets old!
Another instance that makes me like patton, he stopped them from strapping logs on for armor and made them use metal bits from dead tanks which was vastly better
Super pershing moment
"you idiots use metal not wood" -general Patton
Logs were a nice piece of kit to have actually. It kinda maybe helped against panzerfausts and stuff as well.
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Video games tell me that the angle of the metal plates were just as important as the thickness. The addition plates being angled seem better than sandbags that might help enemy fire find purchase on the tank. But as someone who's not military and only seen tanks from a distance, in videos, and in games I would trust the experienced soldiers over what I think I know.
Unsure what the Ballistics on sandbags are (I know they're good at stopping small arms) but they might be like a reactive armor in the case that it absorbs the initial impact and helps to slow down the round enough so that when it hits the actual armor, it has a better chance of deflecting or just flat out not penning.
I dont think the average soldier in the 40s has as much knowledge as the average highschooler in the 2020s considering the amount of research in basic physics thats happened since.
@wingsoficarus1139 their tank and training manuals state exactly how angled armor effects the reliability of shell penetration.
At the end of the day, in most circumstances, the ad-hoc armor most likely provides some small amount of protection, seeing as things like reinforced concrete were officially implemented on German tanks.
@@medicodyssey reactive armour acts primarily by destabilising or fracturing projectiles, spreading the projectile over a greater volume of armour.
they really only worked on something like the panzerfaust because of how the weapons was designed. every other option shown would work at least somewhat against all forms of AT weaponry. Sand bags add way too much weight for the little good they do. Slap on logs and scrap wood would do the same job against the panzerfaust, but be far lighter.@@medicodyssey
Patton wasn’t the one watching his shells harmlessly bounce off the fronts of German tanks.
It’s only the panther and king tiger that the Sherman had trouble penetrating
Being a jumbo main, I agree that the extra armour plate is very effective at making tiger player want to commit sudoku.
Tests conducted by First Army Ordnance showed that armor plate provided significantly better protection than any other material for the same weight.
For this reason, Patton actually authorized this applique armor for all Third Army tanks.