LIVE WATCH! Commonwealth v. Karen Read DAY 26
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- We finished the day on Friday with the voir dire of Trooper Paul's new opinion that Karen Read's taillight could not have been broken by hitting John's car in the driveway at 5 a.m. on the 29th because, well, he says so. Alan Jackson was fuming because this opinion was developed weeks ago and never disclosed to the defense, so he wants it excluded. Why Judge Bev needs to think about this I don't know, but she did and so we are expecting the ruling first thing in the morning before we finish Trooper Paul's direct exam and continue to a cross that is sure to be spicy now that Mr. Jackson is good and pissed off. What's left in the Commonwealth's case? We are assured that despite 20+ witnesses remaining on the list, the jury will have the case before the 4th of July holiday, and the key witnesses remaining for the Commonwealth would seem to be the medical examiner and Trooper Nicholas Guarino, who performed all of the cell phone extractions in the case.
The gaslighting in those texts…. Being treated poorly then reacting, then being called crazy for reacting. I don’t know if that was supposed to make me think she was crazy but it just made me empathize with her.
Especially with things like him not wanting her to have the plumber out because he wanted a night out and be collected by her. For someone with Cronhs, and possibly a colostomy bag given her surgeries, not having access to hot water would be horrible. I feel so bad for what she's been through, it's heartbreaking
More , I am admiring Karen for being so gracious in face of all the dirt and humiliation they put on her . I also understand why she made so many phone calls to John because I don't like to be played and I prefer a clean break up instead of being played around . Is it a reason to kill someone ? No. It is not .
Finally - an honest portrayal of John. An apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Look at the behavior of his mother. Death doesn’t give you automatic hero status. These text messages speak volumes (as does the friend who said John called Karen a "babysitter with benefits").
"Friend."
Exactly! One of the guys I grew up with was plain evil, he died at 27 and all of a sudden he became everyone's friend and would be missed! Crazy. His Mum and Dad are both shitty too.
He was a terrible boyfriend, that’s for sure. There’s nothing worse than being in a committed relationship with a man who does not take your feelings seriously. Any sensible woman can see where Karen is coming from in those text messages.
@@Brooke-bc2iq Well she was a "babysitter with benefits" a convenience for him. He was no saint. He did a good thing with his sisters kids but didn't make him a good person. I know someone who fostered and she was far from a good person too. I completely understand Karen's frustration.
Watching Trooper Paul was like watching the Titanic hitting the iceberg, putting the ship in reverse and hitting it again. Ouch!
I cringe the entire time he was on the stand.
I find that that whole group of people have a very misogynistic view on women. It's probably cultural, even the women are very nasty to each other and jealous of each other. JO behaved just like Proctor and all the other troopers showed us on their chats.If this was about someone else he would also be there on chats saying the same crap about that woman. He was a stand up man for his family, not many people step up to raise 2 kids, but he was also one of them with the same cultural flaws and mentality.
I recognize that behaviour on my daily life because it is pretty much the same culture of my generation in my own country. I am 58 years old and live in Southern Europe.
And smaller communities tend to have patterned behaviours that are very hard to break, KR was the outsider that grabbed the handsome bachelor so they disliked her for intruding and disrupting their dynamics, she was vocal about the way she was treated and that was a big no no. The other women that testified seem to be strong and opinionated but there are unspoken rules that she broke. The way one of them, i forgot who, said that she was a babysitter with privileges shows the contempt they had for her. The guys are all very manly in front of their group, even in court they all showed a facade of manliness and were arrogant , even a bit threatening. But Jen rules the house, she hated being interrogated by yet another outsider, she absolutely hated having some guy calling out her bs, she is not used to that, same with the Albert daughter.
well said and written , not going near boson.
It's the same in small villages in the North of England. I was raised in a very small mining village, moved there at 6, we were still outsiders when I left at 19. Same attitudes from the men and woman overall, occasionally there were nicer people, but the overwhelming majority were like this
Any trooper on the stand should be giving full disclosure as to what, if any 😂, information was provided to them directly by trooper proctor
Would be great if Trooper Gourino, (not sure of the spelling), would do just that. He seemed like he didn't want to be there. I'm sure I heard him say 'I'm sorry for what coming ma'am' right before they went to side bar before finishing. Between that and the kill me comment, it seemed like he knew how bad this all is
They act like they had zero contact with Proctor, the MAIN investigator. And it's just not believable at all
Andrea I’m just so impressed with you! You haven’t even researched this case but as these witnesses testify, you’re able to immediately provide informed commentary & knowledge off-the-cuff. Seriously, you know physics formulas, how surveillance equipment works, how the cell data works , how accident reconstruction should happen, how farmers have surveillance because of meth dealers plus all of the legal intricacies. I ❤️ your channel so much & gain so much knowledge just watching the trial along with you. Thanks so much!
JO made up with Karen that evening because he knew he might need a ride home later.
Trooper Paul just watched his career as an accident reconstruction expert go up in flames. I wonder if he can figure out where it went wrong.
This was the most pathetic and inept expert I’ve ever seen! He understands nothing about his job! I am outraged!
Literally anyone can be deemed an expert in a court of law, once the court deems someone to be.
191 crash investigations he has conducted (per his testimony) yet he fails to display the most rudimentary grasp of physics. Even a dog would have picked something up along the way. 😂
And he happened to be training somebody else on the job that morning. Christ. The blind leading the blind.
If I was on the wrong aode of any one of those prior cases I'd be using this as appeal grounds
They chose him intentionally. A nice guy who wants to do right and was woefully misinformed about his level of expertise. I would venture a guess that they even built him up so that he’d have more confidence in his testimony. If they really believed that she hit him with her car, and had the evidence to back it up (no pun intended) then they would have paid for an expert to pull out all the stops ESPECIALLY after she hired two high-priced attorneys.
Cross kinda worth it though 😂
today the CW shared gaslighting texts by John to what? Explain why Karen was upset she was being ignored again and left rude voicemails? That is their case?
The description of the position of JO's arm due to the scratches/ damage sustained is exactly the position his arm would have been defending himself from assault/attack from human or dog
I saved this for after work when I can watch with a mega pint of wine.
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OMG, that first guy just writes the reports and puts what other people say into them. And he seems happy doing so. I hope he's proud of himself. He was GREAT for the defense though!
Never mind Braveheart, this went full "My Cousin Vinny" with the laws of physics ceasing to exist in his analysis. This shows that there did not have to be a giant conspiracy, just a whole LOT of ass covering.
I think this was another huge mistep by the state. Their entire case was tanked early on.
I was just over the top today on your channel. Thank you for all the fun you allow us to have here. You make it too interesting. Just when you thought it was winding down someone says on the witness stand, kill me? Really? Wow! What a great day, Andrea. See you guys tomorrow.
Amazing!!! Right?
OMG the crash recreation cop is crumbling. He's so nervous, scared to fck up, he's in full fight or flight model and brain want flight bad, other higher brain functions locked down, run buddy run, oh no too late here comes Defense, now your fckd. Shoulda listened to your intuition.
It's hilarious! I watched cross again!!😂😂
I felt sort of bad for him, then I thought about the 190 other investigations he did and wondered about how badly he bungled them… 😱
Is this the trial of Karen Read or Jen McCabe?
These are the outrageous messages between Karen and John? I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed a trial where the State prosecutes the case like the Defense.
This is why I don’t like the human species at times. Trooper Paul is willing to sit on the stand and blatantly lie and talk about things way out of knowledge base, knowing it could put someone in jail forever! I’ll never understand how people do these things and live with themselves
And what's awful is that to live with it you habe to either choose to not want to know more or dig more, and/or you grow in hatred towards the person, justifying to yourself that even if they didnt do X, they still deserve bad things to happen. Or you choose to consider yourself the bestest expert that ever experted no matter what. You may also think to yourself that you're just such a small part of the whole process and that she'd be convicted anyway, no matter if you chose to be more honest or not. And there's what Andrea mentions often too - that some people only do the right thing if they know they can be found out. If they're certain they wont be, there's no incentive. So you may think there's a bigger incentive to stay on the same page with your cop buddies with the protection of the state. It's all awful.
After today , I have a bad opinion about John . Also , all my doubts about Karen being the reason for John's death , fade away . I started with an open mind and I am down to them actually frame her .
Ditto. The very little I knew about this case and cover up, I assumed it was just another far fetched conspiracy...clearly it is not.
There has to be MOTIVE. Defense suspects several people, but in over a month has no motive for someone other than Karen to kill him. However, she has plenty of motive. If she watched John walk up to the house or walk in to the house, why did she say she hit him?
There doesn't have to be a proven motive. And doesn't a mate trying to get it on with your gf set up an argument situation which would depend into a beating if they were, I dunno, drunk? What about the wives of Canton all flirting woth JO? That would make people jealous. There is your motive
Thank you so much for your help for understanding this weird trial!!!
I would have loved Jackson to take a tape measure and have the policeman hold the end and walk 30 feet and ask so this is how far a vehicle going 24 mph in reverse threw a guy?
Who would have thought we would be watching My Cousin Vinny in a real-life courtroom?
I honestly doubt this courtroom is big enough for that, lol
From a 10,000 ft view, what I got from the two phone extraction experts is that they are both having trouble explaining an anomaly: the "hos long" Google search appears in other databases on the phone, but NOT in search history, and an ordinary end-user would not be able to delete the search selectively from the history database. Because they are starting from the assumption that the extraction has not been tampered with by an IT professional, they are struggling to explain the anomaly, and ultimately DISAGREEING on their explanations.
But we already know that there has been suspicious handling of evidence by MANY investigators involved in this case, and that at least Jen McCabe and Higgins have access to people with some level of IT knowledge (husband & friend, respectively). So a relatively simple explanation for the anomaly is that someone with a significant (but not expert) level of IT knowledge IMPERFECTLY deleted the Google search from history, but failed to remove all trace of it, leaving behind confusing artifacts.
In an ordinary case, an explanation that relies on tampering with the phone extraction would not be the simplest explanation, but in this case? What a mess... we just need to see the Google server side of this, if that's even possible.
I'm pretty sure the defense have a Google employee as a witness
This is SO painful to watch! It's the Forrest Gump of accident reconstruction!
At least Forest was stupid with honesty and integrity
I love how you answer all questions at the end.
I thought the phone under the body was a good point from yanetti
The CW's reconstruction expert got destroyed. O'Keefe getting sideswiped in the arm and face at 25 MPH would have broke multiple bones. I think the key cycles complete exonerates her - that was the presented clear and effectively.
Karen was negligent ~ in believing these morally bankrupt, back stabbers were friends she could trust. But yeah the negligent downgrade screams we'll take any win, indicative of proof we had a legitimate case in the 1st place and thus also to prevent any revisit, if not Karen, then who.... Yeah I guess they need to prove how karen saw John so easy, immediately, when 10 or so others couldn't. If she didn't already know, cause she was there and did it, then only they were there, yet didn't see John, maybe they did it, explains why they didn't see John but Karen did, for good reason, her's cause she cares and loves John, wanted to find him, and their not so good reason but nefarious reason.
Replay crew! Can’t watch it all but zooming through the commentary. All I have to say is “How are we here?” BTW love your lip color
Chat! Before anyone gets pissed off with the "expert" remember we have beautifully brutal cross! Every cloud...
At the end of this live o saw 55k in chat! Is that right? Wow Andrea! I think so it has 55k views already! Nice!
Be pretty funny if the defense just rests at the end of the prosecution's case. 😄 As always, your commentary is much appreciated.
Trooper Paul is in way over his head and needs to admit it and give up accident reconstruction. I attended a two week course to start out accident reconstruction. After completing I was asked if I wanted to attend the next level. I quickly passed after realizing how complex it is and knew I would be in over my head. Sometimes people get into specialty areas for the wrong reason like doing it for a day job or a job after retirement with insurance companies. .
I feel bad for this so called car crash expert. He’s clearly not qualified enough and nobody told him. 120 hours isn’t enough to be an expert in anything and the fact that he is training people is concerning. I understand he’s nervous but you need to be able to answer better than this. Kind of sort of is not good enough. His inability to answer more clearly makes it even worse. He says could be this and that, until he is crossed and than he suddenly can answer more assertive. And the way JO is hit doesn’t seem credible at all. JO would have massive arm and shoulder damage. I think it’s terrifying that someone’s freedom can be taken away by people with this lack of knowledge.
I agree, my son, who is a physics and maths major, couldn't believe what he was saying. He actually worked out the momentum if you take JO to be a standardised shape and size across his weight and height from the measurements this so called expert gave, and it came out to a momentum which would have hit JO with a ridiculous force. I forget the numbers he told me, but it was insane and would have broken bones across the chest without a doubt. And would have flung him far further than 7ft or 30ft. I'm gonna have to ask him what those numbers were or it'll bug me lol.
@@helensmusings I bet your son could also state Newton's First Law! Trooper Paul was way out of his area of expertise. Anyone who has studied high school physics has more expertise than him.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 yep, he teaches it to high school students that want extra tuition lol and the others to go with the first 🤣
I felt sorry for this kid at first, now 🤬 he’s putting himself out there being so argumentative cannot answer one of the defenses questions smh
I don’t feel sorry for him at all. It’s his job to know what he’s talking about. Can’t do it = get another.
In addition, this dumb jerk is trying to assist putting Karen in jail, based on his incompetent BS that a high school student would be better at.
I’m thinking that these cell phone experts are trying to pull some bogus science on us , it was said you can’t delete a call on a iPhone so I quickly tried and I succeeded. I do feel bad for Johns family because by now the penny has dropped and they must realize justice for John doesn’t have anything to do with Karen .
Always trust your own eyes over paid experts
wasnt it that you coulndt do it in the logfile ? not the normal deletion of a phone call
I love how he made a diagram with the distances of each object measured relative to the position of the body, and then used none of those values to formulate his opinion.
damn traffic crash scientist-trooper going to have PTSD from this for the rest of his life.
Someone really should check on him…
Apparently they’re running out of experts 🤦🏼♀️
True experts want nothing to do with this case.
Well, the cellphone guy was actually decent. And to be honest I'm not sure it matters either way because the defense doesn't actually have to prove someone else did it specifically. The state has to prove Karen did it and I just don't see how that expert does anything but disprove one part of the defenses alternate theory which again isn't really necessary. They haven't proved anything and the reconstruction guy basically threw what was left of the case out
Imo, the MC Albert's set it up considering the fact that Karen claimed she wasn't invited to the after party so JO could be alone to be bludgeoned to death. Lots of jealousy bc men couldn't hold on to their wives bc women loved JO. JM wanted JO to herself, get Karen out of the way. My theory.
When an expert is not really an expert .... smh
Thanks for covering this. Just caught your channel last week. It was between you and legal bytes. You both are easy on the eyes, sorry jeff😂 But your chat is funny af. I was laughing so hard today, my eyes watered😂
You know, if you don't SAY things that might be considered offensive, you wouldn't need to apologize. 🎯
What did he say that was offensive?
Hi 🙋🏾♀️ i have a degree in computer electronics and worked for an electronics manufacturer for nearly 8 years. The no non-destructive thing with the motherboard is pretty much a lie. Even with tiny components, a motherboard is physically no different than any other circuit board. It may required specialized tools because of the size of the components (and an extremely steady hand) but I can’t see any reason replacing a component or desoldering would be impossible without destroying it. I only saw part of his testimony so I’m commenting off of your discussion at the end, apologizes if im misconstruing what he said
I have no problem going with pre-deleted data. What if the simplest explanation for these “didn’t go through” (or whatever happened) searches is the reality? There was a strong winter storm. Snow falling. If you search for something with no reception, the wheel will spin but nothing will go through. But will be there if you just close the phone and wait until later.
Thank you Andrea!!!💛💛💛
That is not true. The root files of the database tree cannot be altered. The records can be generated, printed, then altered via cut and paste. It changes what you see in your hand and present to people but the original record remains. See SAP, (HR), Oracle (Banks) - those programs are secure. X86 chip based databases have been vulnerable since 2018.
How is this guy an expert 😂😂😂😂
Read my comment below. Bev and Lally did this to him. He is way out of his pay grade here. 😳🤣
There are four of you whose coverage I'm following, so I'm still catching up on Day 26 and I'm seeing these texts over and over, and seeing in my mind's eye your puzzlement at why anyone would put up with this behavior each time they come up. That's understandable, and I hope you won't mind one perspective.
For those of us who struggle, for whatever reason, to 'function normally', whatever that means, whether sometimes or all the time, in ways that are visible or not, it's with other people who also struggle that we stand a chance of learning and growing together. Ms. Read and Mr. O'Keefe, like all humans, are/were imperfect, they struggled, at least in some moments, maybe in many, to find comfort with someone they loved. Maybe one of them worked harder than the other, maybe we're just seeing a moment in which that looks to be true, we don't know. It sounds like they'd been together quite some time. Maybe nothing ever changed between them, or maybe there was a reason they kept trying, maybe there was progress, maybe not. Maybe this was their breaking point, and undeniably it's not a particularly healthy or productive way to argue, but maybe it's better than how it used to be for them.
For me, I struggle not to envy folks for whom interpersonal relationships come more naturally, but I'm learning to love who I am, partly with the help of the man with whom I've spent thirty years learning and growing. We're not perfect and people are never going to be easy for me (I'm grateful they are for him), we've had fights worse than this (the texts) along the way, we've had many more disagreements that didn't devolve into this kind of sniping, but we were never - neither of us - going to manage a relationship without some bumps along the way; we're dysfunctional, both together and separately, but we're better people, and we have a better relationship, than we were and did when we started, and we still like each other. (Loving is easy, but liking can be a real challenge sometimes. 😄 ) I don't know what your challenges are, and I suspect you meet them with aplomb, but clearly they don't lie with people or... ya know, life in general (folks like you are aspirational to me, thank you both for sharing a bit of your lives), so maybe that gives you a little glimpse at why these texts aren't particularly egregious on either side for some of us, and certainly, as you said many times, don't indicate an intent to end a life.
It certainly sounds like that is what is said, and it sounds like his voice, but if you watch his mouth, his lips do not move. They certainly never come together as they would have to in order to form the word "me," and there's no audio delay, so that doesn't explain it. Either we're all mishearing it, it's coming from someone else, or he's practicing his ventriloquism skills.
John was a selfish user , gaslighter . Karen is a sweetie . I had wondered after hearing about Aruba and all of his women friends . I was right .
I have been thinking the same thing … idk something doesn’t site right about the story everyone tells about him
John was a COP. have you ever heard of the 40% rule?! 40% of LE openly admit to DA/DV. 💔
Military is the same.
Well, he was interested in hanging out with the Alberts and Higgins. Can you tell about a person considering the company they keep? 🤔
Hmmm
Thank you for seeing her side in this relationship! He was typical guy. Answer when he wants her company, & ignore problems when he doesn't want to deal with his problems or his own temper.
SAD, She is being codependent, & low self-esteem, should have walked away sooner herself from being disrespected, & low self-esteem herself. SAD.
Do you mean SADD??!!! Students Against Drunk Driving??!! I worked at several bars over the course of 15 years. Annually, we took a class, reiterating the fact: You are OVER THE LIMIT after 2 drinks in ONE HOUR. Karen had SEVEN. In addition: Pretty Much every COP there was also LEGALLY DRUNK. Many Drunk Drivers. Karen was SUPER DRUNK, her & John had been fighting all day. She ran him over in her Drunken Stupor, woke up at 4:30 am, realized what she’d done but still Half-Drunk, and frantically tried to get over there to “Discover” him in the snow. She’ll be found NOT GUILTY because of these Keystone Cops, but she did it.
Aussie Insider did a watch through of what Karen drank, I agree it was too much given her driving, but it wasn't as much as Lally said either. It's a great channel to check out the 10 to 15 min videos on specific things
6:58:09 he hates that he has to read these texts out
I think sometimes expert Witnesses are intentionally trying to confuse us to make us qquestion what we know about the information or subject and decide we don't know well enough so we just take their word for it. It sometimes makes us think that they are smarter so they must be right.
Hey Andrea. I love your coverage. May I suggest one small thing though? Can you please change the placement of the comments you pull up, or the placement of you, so the comments don’t cover your face? It annoys me so much that we can’t see you, especially when you speak and react with us live, but then your whole face is covered 😆☺️ 👍 Thanks a ton! 💜
I already watched this once on another channel but it's more enjoyable to watch with Andrea giggling .
I'm on the replay crew.... and as we end the celle report witness.... are we not going to hear about karen or John's phones?! I don't know how many people we need to hear about Jen McCabe's phone.
Hos common is a re-redirect? First time I've seen one.
I think it's pretty common. I've seen in alot.
Sad, that we can take each other so for granted, after a period of time.
Gaslighting seems so obvious when your not knee deep in the relationship. Crazy those involved don't see it
Replay crew: “Kill me” Yup, I heard it too! 😂
I'd feel bad for Trp Paul if he wasn't working to put someone behind bars for the rest of her life based on his knowledge of "forward" and "stuff"
2:38:00 How a jet engine works in principle: suck, squeeze, bang, blow.
6:04:39 MySQL is NOT what he described it to be. MySQL is a database, just like sqlite is a database.
6:08;14 "A large amount of skill...", well, funny that. As he was previously giving testimony, I was formulating methods to do just that, and no, a large amount of skill is not required.
6:22:23 No, the process is NOT going to destroy the board unless you're a numpty that leaves the heat (soldering iron or hot air) on the board for a sufficient time to begin to lift traces.
Also they could have just used the Lexus Linc App. Failing that a quick Google found me this on the Lexus site from someone wanting to download all their GPS data:
'found out that the company Fujitsu has a division called Eclipse that manufactures the GPS Navigation systems for Lexus/Toyota. They also sell their own GPS Navigation systems under the Eclipse brand name.'
This company can access the data for download. And I bet Lexus can too if they subpoena it, but they won't do that because they don't want the truth
You look extra pretty today. Don't worry I'm 72 years old.
Painful
I have so much catching up to do on this case!!🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
I can’t believe that Cellebrite gave this non-technical employee permission to testify in court about technical matters. And that their product is now useless if not reliable in court.
Omg a trouper with hair ?
Andrea , do you know that you are able to talk for 9 hours straight? 😅😅😅😅
The 5 hrs of Lally nap time probably helps😅
@@myklaaron7879 thank god that Andrea is a talker because Lally literally puts me to sleep after 5 minutes . It is quite an achievement by Lally to be so boring and monotone.
@@sweatshirts623 even Bev told him his head was down and he talks low😅. We all know he is purposely dragging his feet though.
Are we just gonna ignore the fact trooper Paul stole the movie line “I see dead people” when he said the crime scenes talk to him.
Thanks so much for today! You are amazing ❤
You are the best, I enjoyed your show and will continue to follow you. Thank you.
Andrea, Lally on cross won’t be as horrible as you’re afraid it will be. It’ll be worse
Thanks
Just heard the judge say dress comfortably. I.E. tube top daisy dukes, men or women😂😂
I love your hair parted on the side.
Can’t wait until the center part goes out of style
This man to me is obviously a little distressed. I am very sensitive to people's emotional state.
Maybe it’s the stress of being so far away from Britain.🇬🇧
Lally has zero business trying to discredit anyone the defense calls as an expert after putting Keystone Trooper Paul up as an accident reconstruction expert
Karens health data shows no ascending/descending at the same time. He didn’t have a watch.
2:23:51 *The Only Serious CW witness?* The plow operator.
2:21:16 _And that's why he has the job._
Weird accent British guy was once a northern lad literally putting a posh voice on for court so makes him sound more London. Weird 😂 This whole thing is weird! Thanks Andrea, Jeff and chat! ❤
I was trying to figure out where, I'm in NW England, but the poshing it up made it impossible 😆
@@helensmusings Oh the northern English accent is there he is aiming for Kent😂 Scot here! I can tell a northerner as we love them up here. The South - not so friendly 😂
@@helensmusings He did say he's testified in the UK, Canada, Australia and the US which adds to the mystery.
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Yep lol. South Yorkshire lad though. Just trying to be posh 😂
Go to 7:17ish
6:54:30 "[sigh] *KillMe* " after witness response "Yes it is" to Prosecution Q about Exhibit 48: "Material that you reviewed from the defendant's phone, is that consistent with what you observed of Mr O'Keefe's?"
Too quiet for yt subtitles to pick up or the court clerk or the judge or Defense? But *Andrea* got it: the eyebrows went up at 6:54:29 " *Did he just say 'Kill me'?!* " & then chat went ape, me too.
Perhaps witness feels awful about his prepared task of reading aloud in court Facebook Messenger chats between KR & JO?
Would this be a quote for Defense to ask the witness about today? If AJ or Yanetti watch lawtube replays they will know by now what the witness said.
I wonder if there's any point asking him about it today? Defense cannot call on court clerk transcript to show it - - it will not have been transcribed.
Witness could anyway simply say it was an unwholesome conversation to have to read to the court. The point in asking witness about "Kill me" & witness reluctance to read those texts aloud is because JO's part in those texts are what's most unwholesome about the conversation - - but it isn't pertinent to KR's defense, & playing up how awful JO's attitude was would play into Prosecution hands.
Sidebar: Lally's fluffy waffle way of mumble-speak made transcribing his question even on repeated replay Very Difficult. It's a further impediment that makes so many of his Qs incoherent even to his witnesses.
9:27:14 plus leaving him for another peace officer. Not gonna let that happen. …(if there was a fight)
Oh ya. 72 in I'll repair
Wow….. someone with hair 😅😂
From Mr. Paul I learned that
1. Calculating the conservation of momentum doesn't work at an angle, apparently. (Even though I distinctly remember the highschool physics course on forces, movement and momentum including those exact types of calculations, they weren't complicated))
2. The ground is pretty blunt.
3. Projecting a 6ft man a distance of 30 feet is possible without him flying through the air OR skidding/rolling on the ground. So... teleporation? Like the people apparating in the sally port video? Maybe there's more to this phenomenon in Canton than "motion activated" surveillance video being tampered with.
Expert non expert.
Vielen Dank👍🇩🇪 aus Berlin
1:02:46 gottem
Auntie Bevs rulings are vague because she is a diversity hire😂😂🎉🎉🎉
Not to make fun of people’s appearance but…. Did you notice that most of the law enforcement officers are bald???
They grow their hair back after to try and stay unrecognisable
So they limit leaving evidence when they tamper with crime scenes.
Yes, normal people view O'Keefe's behavior as poor, but he is just the typical alcoholic Massachusetts cop. Whole lot of those in this case. On the other hand, Karen Read is in her forties and never been married. There's probably a reason for that.