Been waiting for you to “stretch your legs “ ever since your collaboration with Ron Spomer! Looking forward to your expertise on backcountry topics!!!!! Thanks sooo much! Enjoyed every second of it!
Thanks for this video! I'd love to see you do one on the best rifles for the hunter that doesn't hunt out west...but at shorter ranges. These long barrels are a non-starter for most of us.
I have the kimber hunter in 280ai. Very light and accurate. But, my most balanced, esy to carry rifle is my Browning Abolt Medallion in 270 or 25-06 with Leupold 2-7 scope. Old school and loving it.
Very well done. I will probably go with the Browning X-Bolt in 280 A.I. or 7mm PRC (I do not hand load so, I'll go with what ammo is readily available).
Quality is not there owned a couple and very disappointed. Get a Tikka superlite and a lot less money and shoots better with most factor ammo and even better when handloading!
@@edwardabrams4972Quality? How so? I feel like you just picked on my little brother:) Tikka is good, but you cannot make a Tikka do what the Mountain Ascent does without paying twice what the Mountain Ascent costs right out of the box. I love my Mountain Ascent in .280AI. .75 moa with 21 different handload combinations, 9 different bullets and 285 total shots fired so far. Yes, I keep a spreadsheet for these things. 9 of those loads will shoot sub .5 moa. My groups will start to loosen up after the 3rd shot, which is very common with thin barrels. It is a lightweight hunting rifle, not a competition target rifle, so that 4th and 5th shot make no real difference to me, and have made no difference at all to the 3 elk and 2 mulies that have been killed by it. I do not know that a Superlite would be better. Maybe? I think Tikka makes a great rifle. They have their pros and cons. Tikka actions are a smooth as silk and the rifles are generally very accurate. The Mountain Ascent is a purpose built rifle, right out of the box, that beats the Tikka all day long at the specific mountain hunting task it is made for. I have carried my Mountain Ascent on all of my elk and deer hunts since I bought it and it is a joy. Tikka T3 Superlite vs Mountain Ascent is an apples and oranges comparison: 1. Tikka does not chamber a .280AI. Original comment specifically mentioned .280AI. Sure, you can re-barrel to the .280AI, but... 2. The Superlite, in a comparable configuration (.270), is almost a pound heavier than the Kimber. Kimber achieves this by skeletonizing everything on the action which makes the rifle light but not as smooth as the Tikka. That pound savings costs about $1000 more than the Tikka, however... 3. Cost. I am not sure it could be done, but if you could cut a pound off of a Superlite, the cost would be far more than the out of the box cost of an unaltered Mountain Ascent. The weight of the Tikka action alone will place it above the Kimber no matter what you do with a barrel and stock to trim weight elsewhere. Maybe you could cut the barrel down to 18", but then you lose on velocity. 4. Cut rifling in a Kimber vs hammer forged in a Tikka. There is a reason competitive shooters use cut rifled barrels. 5. Superlite barrels are not threaded, Mountain Ascent barrels are, and they come with a radial brake. This brake makes a huge difference in the felt recoil with such a light rifle. 6. Controlled round feed on the Kimber. 7. Kimber stock is rock solid pillar bedded carbon fiber. Tikka is that plain old plastic garbage. 8. Tikka still uses that fragile plastic bolt shroud. The Kimber beats it there. So, add up the cost of a new ultralight barrel at a 24" length with cut rifling and a threaded muzzle, muzzle brake, get a replacement carbon fiber stock, pillar bed it and buy a new bolt shroud. Pay the gunsmith or buy the tools. If you do all of that, you will get a rifle that is still heavier than the Mountain Ascent and cost more too. But it will be a Tikka.
I have one in 308(first one my dealer got in) wish it was the the 280 ai. That being said it is about the finest quality factory rifle I’ve held. I’ve taken bear, elk, mule and white tail deer with it and it flawlessly. It’s one I would never sell.
I really want to get that same Weatherby but in 338 WBY RPM. I'd also like to have a 6.8 Western - I'd get it in the X-Bolt Speed SR (or X-Bolt 2 Speed SPR).
@@SammyMoore-tg5gs I may continue with what I have. Didn’t draw a bull tag anyhow. I have a 25-06 is great for deer. My 7rem mag needs unknown repairs but either way they outweigh its value. It’s an older very heavy gun anyhow. (Nothing nice or cool).
Great 😃. Just all cost to much for the avg joe. Most guys n gals will never be able to justify spending 3 4 5 thousand on a rifle. Just wish guys like you , that have a platform would also showcase the good mid rang rifles that are available, though not many there is some.
For light weight the Tikka superlite and for something a little heavier the Weatherby Vanguard! I am a 60+ year gun collector and have owned most of these rifles and tested them out with my 4 boys that hunt and are able to test out the rifles for me! The Tikka 20 is also a great buy🙌
Of all of the factory offerings, Weatherby has the lowest value to price ratio. They are the poster child for selling empty “features” that provide no additional benefit over competitor offerings at incredibly lower prices. Like the 6 or 9 lug action. Both are completely unnecessary yet they pretend like it creates additional benefit.
You have chosen wisely you shall be rewarded with a rifle that shoots more accurate they any other rifle in its price range with factory ammo as well and reloading! My sons all have custom rifle that got for them but prefer the Tikka and the Sako’s over them so that says a lot
Man I did the same thing. bought a perfectly good and very accurate new Tikka stainless T3x, got a prefit Tikka 7PRC 24" Proof CF barrel and a Stocky's stock with a Mountain Tactical recoil lug, paid $50 to swap out barrels and another $150 to bed the stock. I'll know more this weekend because I just had it bedded and picked it up May 11th but it shot well before bedding. I'll shoot 4 factory ammo to start again and see if bedding did help at all - Hornady 180 ELDM, 175 ELDX, 160 CX, and Federal 175 ELDX
I disagree with the premise that those rifles are the best. They are new and pretty, but a gun is just the tool used to harvest the game. Every elk we have taken by me and my sons, have been within 75 feet. the closest was 30 ft. Muleys are the easiest to hunt. My 2 sons nearly got run over by them, they could have used a spear to take them. My #2 literally kick one in the but when it walked up to where he was to eat some grass. I showed my wife how easy it is to hunt them when a buck and doe walked 10 feet in front of us as we leaned against a couple of boulders quietly. We were hunting elk then. Another time I found a nest of elk, 3rd season, had a bull tag, and when they split in front of me. I ran down a cow for about a mile, who lost her calf, she was 10 ft from calling the calf. That was when I was in shape, carrying my 338 Ruger M77 2. We don't road hunt and walk in to where others refuse to go. Now at close to 70 years old, I can barely walk through a grocery store without having pain in my knees and shoulders. My kids are now teaching my grandkids how to hunt the same way. Last year my2 sons let a trophy bull go because it was too big to carry off a mountain.
The hunting rifle that has either a threaded barrel or a removable magazine will be outlawed here in Colorado if the goonie birds get their way up in Denver they are doing their darnest to destroy the state and the hunting here
How can you Americans still use this horrible muzzle brakes ? Get into the modern age and use suppressors…good for accuracy, good for recoil and fantastic for your hearing 🤷♂️
@@ingvarkristjansson766I think you’re overlooking the fact that purchasing a suppressor isn’t an overly quick or easy process in the US. A highly worthwhile one, yes, but not everyone has the time or money to dedicate to obtaining one.
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Been waiting for you to “stretch your legs “ ever since your collaboration with Ron Spomer! Looking forward to your expertise on backcountry topics!!!!! Thanks sooo much! Enjoyed every second of it!
Thank you very much!
Thanks for this video! I'd love to see you do one on the best rifles for the hunter that doesn't hunt out west...but at shorter ranges. These long barrels are a non-starter for most of us.
I have the kimber hunter in 280ai. Very light and accurate. But, my most balanced, esy to carry rifle is my Browning Abolt Medallion in 270 or 25-06 with Leupold 2-7 scope. Old school and loving it.
Love, short videos. Really enjoying your channel.
Awesome, thank you!
Very well done. I will probably go with the Browning X-Bolt in 280 A.I. or 7mm PRC (I do not hand load so, I'll go with what ammo is readily available).
Another great video. That Kimber in 280 AI is highly intriguing.
Quality is not there owned a couple and very disappointed. Get a Tikka superlite and a lot less money and shoots better with most factor ammo and even better when handloading!
@@edwardabrams4972Quality? How so? I feel like you just picked on my little brother:) Tikka is good, but you cannot make a Tikka do what the Mountain Ascent does without paying twice what the Mountain Ascent costs right out of the box.
I love my Mountain Ascent in .280AI. .75 moa with 21 different handload combinations, 9 different bullets and 285 total shots fired so far. Yes, I keep a spreadsheet for these things. 9 of those loads will shoot sub .5 moa. My groups will start to loosen up after the 3rd shot, which is very common with thin barrels. It is a lightweight hunting rifle, not a competition target rifle, so that 4th and 5th shot make no real difference to me, and have made no difference at all to the 3 elk and 2 mulies that have been killed by it. I do not know that a Superlite would be better. Maybe?
I think Tikka makes a great rifle. They have their pros and cons. Tikka actions are a smooth as silk and the rifles are generally very accurate. The Mountain Ascent is a purpose built rifle, right out of the box, that beats the Tikka all day long at the specific mountain hunting task it is made for. I have carried my Mountain Ascent on all of my elk and deer hunts since I bought it and it is a joy.
Tikka T3 Superlite vs Mountain Ascent is an apples and oranges comparison:
1. Tikka does not chamber a .280AI. Original comment specifically mentioned .280AI. Sure, you can re-barrel to the .280AI, but...
2. The Superlite, in a comparable configuration (.270), is almost a pound heavier than the Kimber. Kimber achieves this by skeletonizing everything on the action which makes the rifle light but not as smooth as the Tikka. That pound savings costs about $1000 more than the Tikka, however...
3. Cost. I am not sure it could be done, but if you could cut a pound off of a Superlite, the cost would be far more than the out of the box cost of an unaltered Mountain Ascent. The weight of the Tikka action alone will place it above the Kimber no matter what you do with a barrel and stock to trim weight elsewhere. Maybe you could cut the barrel down to 18", but then you lose on velocity.
4. Cut rifling in a Kimber vs hammer forged in a Tikka. There is a reason competitive shooters use cut rifled barrels.
5. Superlite barrels are not threaded, Mountain Ascent barrels are, and they come with a radial brake. This brake makes a huge difference in the felt recoil with such a light rifle.
6. Controlled round feed on the Kimber.
7. Kimber stock is rock solid pillar bedded carbon fiber. Tikka is that plain old plastic garbage.
8. Tikka still uses that fragile plastic bolt shroud. The Kimber beats it there.
So, add up the cost of a new ultralight barrel at a 24" length with cut rifling and a threaded muzzle, muzzle brake, get a replacement carbon fiber stock, pillar bed it and buy a new bolt shroud. Pay the gunsmith or buy the tools. If you do all of that, you will get a rifle that is still heavier than the Mountain Ascent and cost more too. But it will be a Tikka.
Great points @edwardabrams4972 ! Thanks for the very thorough comment and review of your rifle.
I have one in 308(first one my dealer got in) wish it was the the 280 ai. That being said it is about the finest quality factory rifle I’ve held. I’ve taken bear, elk, mule and white tail deer with it and it flawlessly. It’s one I would never sell.
@@OutsidetheEchochamber Now I’m even more worried intrigued. If I did get one, it would be in 280 AI…
That weatherby has always been on my dream list…
Great rifle but the Fierce rifle is less money and a lot more gun for less. It also shoots a lot tight groups with factory ammo as well as handloads
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I just got the Weatherby Backcountry Ti this week off the clearance rack at Cabela’s. 74 ounces.
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I really want to get that same Weatherby but in 338 WBY RPM.
I'd also like to have a 6.8 Western - I'd get it in the X-Bolt Speed SR (or X-Bolt 2 Speed SPR).
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Oft!! I need the same video but at $1500 price point…
Get a Sako 20 or the Tikka rifle the most accurate in that price range!
@@edwardabrams4972 Ive heard. That tikka weathertech is high on my list.
Buy a tikka t3x lite or go cheap and buy a ruger American.
Or, run what you have and save for another year
@@SammyMoore-tg5gs I may continue with what I have. Didn’t draw a bull tag anyhow. I have a 25-06 is great for deer. My 7rem mag needs unknown repairs but either way they outweigh its value. It’s an older very heavy gun anyhow. (Nothing nice or cool).
Great 😃. Just all cost to much for the avg joe. Most guys n gals will never be able to justify spending 3 4 5 thousand on a rifle. Just wish guys like you , that have a platform would also showcase the good mid rang rifles that are available, though not many there is some.
For light weight the Tikka superlite and for something a little heavier the Weatherby Vanguard! I am a 60+ year gun collector and have owned most of these rifles and tested them out with my 4 boys that hunt and are able to test out the rifles for me! The Tikka 20 is also a great buy🙌
Look at Tikka T3, very accurate factory rifle, and it won't break the bank.
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Of all of the factory offerings, Weatherby has the lowest value to price ratio. They are the poster child for selling empty “features” that provide no additional benefit over competitor offerings at incredibly lower prices.
Like the 6 or 9 lug action. Both are completely unnecessary yet they pretend like it creates additional benefit.
All wrong my Tikka with a proof 7prc barrel is the best according to me
You have chosen wisely you shall be rewarded with a rifle that shoots more accurate they any other rifle in its price range with factory ammo as well and reloading! My sons all have custom rifle that got for them but prefer the Tikka and the Sako’s over them so that says a lot
Man I did the same thing. bought a perfectly good and very accurate new Tikka stainless T3x, got a prefit Tikka 7PRC 24" Proof CF barrel and a Stocky's stock with a Mountain Tactical recoil lug, paid $50 to swap out barrels and another $150 to bed the stock. I'll know more this weekend because I just had it bedded and picked it up May 11th but it shot well before bedding. I'll shoot 4 factory ammo to start again and see if bedding did help at all - Hornady 180 ELDM, 175 ELDX, 160 CX, and Federal 175 ELDX
Those giant muzzle brakes on Brownings are ridiculous.
No single shots ?
Well Good..not good on the marks glad for those that can.
I disagree with the premise that those rifles are the best. They are new and pretty, but a gun is just the tool used to harvest the game.
Every elk we have taken by me and my sons, have been within 75 feet. the closest was 30 ft. Muleys are the easiest to hunt. My 2 sons nearly got run over by them, they could have used a spear to take them. My #2 literally kick one in the but when it walked up to where he was to eat some grass. I showed my wife how easy it is to hunt them when a buck and doe walked 10 feet in front of us as we leaned against a couple of boulders quietly. We were hunting elk then. Another time I found a nest of elk, 3rd season, had a bull tag, and when they split in front of me. I ran down a cow for about a mile, who lost her calf, she was 10 ft from calling the calf. That was when I was in shape, carrying my 338 Ruger M77 2. We don't road hunt and walk in to where others refuse to go. Now at close to 70 years old, I can barely walk through a grocery store without having pain in my knees and shoulders. My kids are now teaching my grandkids how to hunt the same way. Last year my2 sons let a trophy bull go because it was too big to carry off a mountain.
The hunting rifle that has either a threaded barrel or a removable magazine will be outlawed here in Colorado if the goonie birds get their way up in Denver they are doing their darnest to destroy the state and the hunting here
Need to improve the sound. I can barely hear you even with my volume all the way up
Park West? Montana? NULA?
Park West/Montana make very fine firearms!
How can you Americans still use this horrible muzzle brakes ? Get into the modern age and use suppressors…good for accuracy, good for recoil and fantastic for your hearing 🤷♂️
If you can't handle recoil, quit shooting
@@rediron44 I can handle the recoil just fine….I hate the noise from muzzle brakes…that’s why I use suppressors…get into the modern era man
I love suppressors but not worth the weight and space when packing into the backcountry. Ear plugs work fine.
Would love to have several but don't really like handing the government $200 just for the rights to own one.
@@ingvarkristjansson766I think you’re overlooking the fact that purchasing a suppressor isn’t an overly quick or easy process in the US. A highly worthwhile one, yes, but not everyone has the time or money to dedicate to obtaining one.