The Weird Girl Trope, Explained
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I hate how the weird girl quickly became the" i'm not like other girls" trope
Yes and I hate that trope but I realized when I used to live in the south it actually was weird to listen to normal bands like the smiths and wear black. So I see where it’s coming from trying to find ‘coolness’ and power in it
Y E S
Like..
Lis Davila ya true i live in the south and it’s getting better but it’s still weird
uwuPixie Bunn ugh same
"Wednesday's at an age where a girl only has one thing on her mind."
"Boys?"
"Homicide."
accurate.
Tbh saying boys is the only thing on a girl’s mind who’s at that age is seriously disturbing O.o
Thanatos in girls is underestimated
best line ever
That's 2 and they both sound scary
Luna Lovegood is my favorite take on the “weird girl”. She’s sweet, unique, supportive, weird, and just a downright amazing character. She’s my Ravenclaw Queen.
Mine too, Luna taught me that it's important to stick to your own guns, and not to care too much about what others think! ❤️
I have a social disability and I was very fond of Luna as a child. I could relate to a lot of things with her such as unusual interests, staring (I try not to but it's difficult not to without not making eye contact at all), wanting friends but not having them and saying things people don't appear to particularly like (this one as improved over time). I think she's a go role model for anyone who doesn't find social skills easy particularly in that she does make friends who genuinely like her.
She's my favorite too! I love how smart she is. Like sometimes she notices things and figures things out when even Hermione can't. I just like how her weirdness makes people underestimate her and she constantly proves there's a lot more to her! :)
Wednesday is my favorite. She´s fun, snarky, but not annoying.
Same! Luna & Remus are my favorite characters.
I don't really think weird girls have been socially accepted, I think the aesthetic of weird girls has gotten co-opted as trends for consumers. The girl is still outcasted, but her clothes, her interests, her sense of humor have become folded into mainstream culture.
On point...like, there is an existence of the weird girl but only accepted positively when the pretty-trendy-girl wares the aesthetic.
I imagined it like... the weird girl's culture has been appropriated in a way (these terms probably shouldn't be used but I couldn't think of another comparison/metaphore)
Say it louder. Appropriation, fetishization isn't acceptance.
Now the weird girls are the sexy gothic grunge thots of Tik Tok and Instagram. Or the aesthetic thots.
Yes
Although I can agree that our culture has grown more accepting of "weird girls" typically that's more of a certain type of "weird girl" more akin to the "cool girl" trope.
I agree. It's weird girls that are still mass appealing and highly successful like Tina Fey, Issa Rae or Wynona Ryder
Butch still aren't accepted as cool weird girls
@@erin_3569 I know all too well
I agree, it's the same with the "Nerd" trope. In "Saved by the Bell", nerds are depicted stereotypically, and a lot of the jokes are related to how uncool they are. Nowadays, it's become "cooler" to be smart, weird or individual in any way, and we are more encouraged to root for the "underdog" to prevail through their hardships. ❤️😊
@@trinaq the underdog being white cis heterosexual and abled
The other are not so accepted
Pfftt, no one is accepting of "weird girls" unless they are conventionally attractive...
in real life, not true. I knew this girl, she wasn't even the weird girl she was just extremely beautiful. She had no friends bc all the other girls were prob jealous
The thing is beatiful people can still be alone and ostracised sor even bullied if they have no confidence. Or average looking people can attract a lot of people because of how confident they are.
Not true sadly... I am incredibly alone.
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Being the lonely, weird, quirky girl a.k.a "not like other girls" is always fun and games until it's true.
**Update**
If you still relate; hang in there, it does get better, it always does❤❤
Kints Forthekulture same, people only wanna be my friend because I’m mysterious
whatever lozer // Oof, my weirdness is the kind that doesn’t even attract people. No sex or mystery, just lots of stuttering and my clothes don’t really match.
@@Hannah-nh5qj Im sorry! Have you tried picking out outfits that look good on you in advance for the week? Do you have a mom/older female to help you? We never do.
Elizabeth Bennet LoL I’m 22 and have lived alone since I was 16. If people avoid me because my clothes don’t match then they’re probably not gonna be a very good friend anyways. I don’t care at this point.
Hannah how you look does not matter a wink my dear girl. as long as you are kind to yourself and others you are so wonderful and beautiful and i’m sorry the world brainwashed you to think you need to look a certain way. -space cadet weird girl
"People may celebrate individuality in theory but when it comes to a weird girl, they feel she doesn't exhibit the right type of individuality"
OMG. I've never felt so identified in my Life :(
✊🏼
Holy crap. Same.
Yeeep
I’m mixed on the Weird Girl. Sometimes they’re the best character in the story and other times she’s just pretentious and almost as annoying as the very people she claims to hate.
I agree, "Mean Girls" has an excellent example with Janis, who used to be popular, but now willingly embraces being an outsider, thanks to a rumour spread by her former bestie Regina. It shows that Janis is JUST as manipulative and sneaky as Regina is.
Yeah, the "weird girl" type can veer rather quickly into the "I'm not like other girls" type.
I agree , I think it depends on the character coming off as genuine or forced ,it all depends on the writing
Trina Q I think they made a video about Janis being manipulative like Regina
Maybe characters are written well??? maybe a character having flaws and being unlikable at points doesnt make them a bad character??? EVERYONE is flawed and unlikable, the best characters embrace this and the story lets you see them at their best AND their worst.
The weird girl is only accepted if she is conventionally attractive under it all. Dawn Wiener and Daria would still be made fun of and ostracized.
Daria was attractive. She just didn't put the effort in, on purpose.
Zach She’s a cartoon so you can’t really tell if other characters found her attractive
@@zachariahpoltergeist4516 Did you forget the navel piercing? That show was smart in challenging Daria's perception of herself/her world and the audience's perception of both. In some ways she was smarter than everyone and yet she was still just a teenage girl trying to figure things out.
@@aphr0d I think they did address this in an episode where something changed in Daria's appearance and characters actually found her attractive (maybe one where she dressed as Quinn?) but I can't remember
I disagree. Girls would just hate her more due to jealousy.
I'd argue that society HASN'T become more accepting of the "weird girl," it's just expanded its definition of normal. As someone who went through high school with undiagnosed autism, I had a front-row seat to the dichotomy of the social acceptance offered to girls who were just different enough to be "quirky" in a way that was considered cute or endearing versus those considered truly weird. It was painful to watch others find an identity of admired independence in their slightly off-beat hobbies or interests while my struggles to speak or move normally enough to fit in, let alone navigate the bewildering landscape of acceptable fashion or interests or conversation, got me repeatedly mocked or rejected. Our cultural fetishization with the 'right sort' of weird just makes it that much more painful to be the 'wrong sort,' culminating in a sense that people like me can't even be WEIRD the right way.
Jup. There’s exotic-weird and there’s weird-weird. The media usually panders to the former kind, the one that is witty, special, cool and attractive because it’s a nice fantasy for both men and women alike. One of the best weird girl characters I’ve seen lately is Reggie from Twelve Forever. She’s definitely the weird-weird type and not everything weird about her that her peers make fun of is endearing. Sure, she’s creative, energetic and usually means well, but she can also be rude, gross and childish and the show knows it, which you would never see on any of these exotic-weird characters that are only ever picked on for things that are actually blessings in disguise.
Speaking of autism, this feels similar to the difference between various kinds of real autism and Hollywood autism which tends idealize autistic savants. Even if, in universe, the weird girl only has a small friend group, the audience watching the story is often still drawn to her intelligence, humor, style, etc. Movie weird girls may also be helpful to the other characters because of their intelligence, unconventional thinking, etc.
Hollywood has trouble telling stories where characters should just be treated well because of their essential humanity. A lot of depictions of the weird girl make her appealing or useful in some way as though she doesn't deserve love, dignity, respect, etc. just because she's a person.
@@rainpooper7088 exactly. Such good observations
Sounds familiar..
Lavender Yes! I was undiagnosed as well and people thought I was a lesbian
I hate how being an outcast has been romanticised. Having people spreading rumours about you and relentlessly criticising you for things they don't critise others for is exhausting and takes a long time to learn to embrace.
You think it's romanticized? I don't see that; a lot of these narratives basically show how much it sucks to be treated like a freak, but also that you can find a place to belong. Just depicting something isn't endorsing it.
I romanticize my own status as friendless and an outcast because it makes me feel less like the pathetic, unlikable jerk that I am, lol.
I'm still getting ptsd from it to this day.
I didn't realize there was all this casual homophobia being thrown at the weird girl in movies
And in real life too... just saying :/
Quirky
Yeees, I’m the weird girl and you have no idea how many people would made fun of me for being a lesbian, even though I’m straight, I never really cared about that, but it just shows the amount of homophobia that exists on our world
Jo China huh
@@jasper7906 huh
I was the weird black chick in school (everywhere). Trust me. They ain’t ready.
Really? You're the weird chick? Were you bitten by a radioactive spider, helped a drunk fat dude to take on a even fatter white dude who can bench press a house?
Aint ready at all
Preach it.
same here
Same
It seems to me that Weird Girl is only accepted when she's more like Cool Girl. I don't know what to make of that. I think attractiveness place a big part in what kind of weird is "acceptable". I don't agree that society has come to be more accepting of the weird girl, i think it just updated what it classifies as weird.
joseph rouhana true. Horse girls would not receive this amount of acceptance and even admiration.
Totally agree with this. And the level of acceptance also depends on the country you're at. While at home I'm the weird lesbian (which i'm not by the way) most people avoid or is afraid of. While in Europe, I was the somehow odd exotic beauty with a bit of unnatainable air. Lots of dudes were hitting on me. Never once I was called a lesbian or weirdo. And analytical as I am I realized society is full of bullshit. I didn't let any of those things come up to my head again. They're both ilussions. The best will always be accepting yourself just as you are.
being a weird girl is just trendy now, thats all... unfortunately its due to the "not like other girls" phenomena where average girls want to feel special so they adopted the weird girl quirks as a way to differentiate themselves
@jilly bean whut, you sound like a literal high school version of me and my high school friend 😱 Like, I was in the EXACT same situation and also into anime, drawing and metal (still am btw hahaha) and being together with another weird girl and everyone thought we were dating..
Don't know where you're at now but just in case you or someone else needs it. I was in this situation just 6 years ago and even though no one noticed, I was very insecure. But, after high school, I chose to study Chinese (which was resented in my hometown for being so weird to the point even teachers would ridicule me) and wow, best choice ever. I made amazing like minded friends who I still speak regularly, got my Bachelor, met the love of my life (who ironically went to high school with me) and we just got our own place to live and I got a full-time job I love. I still am the weirdo of 6 years ago, and people are still treating me like one, but as I'm getting older I'm also more confident than ever and owning it! I would never even be to imagine stuff would get so much better in only 6 years.
Hopefully this inspires some of you to stay true to yourself. The outside world can be very harsh, but it will get better!
Yep. Weird NOT lame.
I've always been the weird girl, ostracized by peers ever since kindergarten up to college. Found out I'm autistic at 21. This entire trope unveils just how misogyny and ableism meet at the middle and treat neurodivergent women. I have enormous amounts of trauma from being denigrated for my characteristics my entire life, from family to peers to authority figures. Being looked at funny, verbally abused, ignored, humiliated, only to be used when convenient. No shit I have low esteem for others; they have never once treated me with kindness irrespective of my quirkiness.
Thank you for sharing. I hope you are doing better these days.
I understand, I have AdHD for all my life, and have been bullied for it, screamed at by my teachers, dealing with trauma, and in general just being a quiet person doesn't help..
Misogyny? That kind of discrimination is no better for males.
@@arkanestuff1830 I definitely agree with you. I am a girl, with ADHD, I was confused as fuck. I had a shit ton of trauma too. But, me and my guy friends also go through this, and we stick in it for each other.
vibes, i was made fun of until like age 16 for a literal physical disability of mine. Then I went to college at 16 and it stopped.
Carrie White is a true weird girl. She's not an outsider who actually has a strong friend group or is even the leader. She isn't particularly witty or smart or charming. Her weirdness isn't stylish or quirky. The only thing close to "aspirational" about her story is the way it is a revenge fantasy.
Carrie has to be one of the saddest movies out there
I don't think she's 'the weird girl' in the sense of the trope though. She didn't want to be different, nor did she go out of her way to be. She was weird because her mother was oppressive and psychologically abusive.
@@marinak4452 but a lot of the weird girls are not weird on purpose, they just happened to be that way
@@marvel096 I'm not talking about weird girls I'm talking about 'weird girls' . . as in the trope. Like what the video is about?
@@marvel096 And either way my point stands is Carrie doesn't do it on purpose nor does she 'happen to be that way' her behavior is a product of trauma and abuse.
The “Weird Girl” is still bullied today, but there’s just more weird girls around in real life & especially online which helps in finding support groups.
This!
Yeah, high school was hell for me. I still have huge problems with trusting people unless I've known them for at least a year, and I graduated in 2013
What is a weird girl exactly?
Yup, online you'd think we're everywhere but when you live in a small town you realized that there are few weird girls..
@@rubylace9963 Agree. Small towns are the worst for us.
Everyone likes the idea of a weird girl but no one like the real weird girl.
the new weird girl is the cat girl
The reality is a real human and not a sextoy.
INêS CaStRO i’m saying in real life dude, not in film or something, i’m saying in real life the new weird girl is the cat girls & horse girls no offence 2 them
INêS CaStRO also this comment is rly funny
I know that from experience.
Lol the lesbian rumors are honestly too real. My friends mom thought I was gay because I just wasn't interested in having a boyfriend at 14?? like cause I'm still a child???? Plot twist her daughter is now a lesbian and is happy dating a girl and we're also still friends to this day!
the best resolution lmao!
People questioned my sexuality, and said my current boyfriend was gay. But here we are, both on the asexual spectrum, and happily dating for years now. However, the girl who bullied me the most is now living with a girlfriend, so I feel like she might have just been taking it out on me because she was scared of coming out and jealous of how I didn't care as much and didn't fit those stereotypes.
My cousin hardly had interest in guys or had a boyfriend in high school and all her female classmates thought she was a lesbian.
I feel you my sister kept thinking I was a lesbian because I haven’t had a boyfriend yet it’s like no I’m straight not having a boyfriend doesn’t automatically make me a lesbian crazy lol
Same thing happened to me; everyone thought i was a lesbian and here i am, the only hetero of the siblings (the other 2 are bi 😂) worried about the wrong thing lololol
The thing I hate the most about the weird girl trope is how they usually show them as being purposefully weird! Like they’re going out of their way to be weird. I’ve always hated being viewed as weird. I tried my best to imitate what I perceived to be normal or cool but that just made me weirder in the eyes of others. After years of struggling with this, I just learned to be as invisible as possible while also hoping to be noticed for who I really am...not just this weird, awkward creature.
Disappointed so little was said about the awkward misfit.
Also, weird girl being more mainstream and acceptable is only true if the weird girl is also pretty.
Can relate. I wasn't conventionally attractive or able to keep up with social conventions at the time. So I didn't know how to talk to people and my appearance/interests/behaviors were apparently too bizarre (outspoken, bi/atheist/short hair in christian school, nothing in common). Then I tried to act, dress, listen to music, ect. in a way that I thought everyone would like and still couldn't find acceptance. Better to just do your own thing. People start caring less when life hits and they aren't highschoolers anymore.
I'm sure you're awesome Isabel.
Trying to force yourself to be invisible stops you from being the weird girl. Most of them know and will not be making effort to be less weird and that’s why they stay weird. They don’t care enough about what others think to force themselves into a box.
i love when i was being bullied to being “weird” and i was even showing it , and they in general aren’t (edit: idk tf i was saying)
B G It does get easier as an adult but even in my forties now I experience my fair share of awkwardness. I a have learned to better embrace what makes me ‘weird’ because that’s also what makes me uniquely me.
Thank you for the kind words. You’re obviously quite awesome yourself.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that last line I've been told by others that I'm conventionally attractive yet I was the weird girl and I was not at all accepted by others!
*Lilo* from _Lilo and Stich_ should have had been used as an example
carmen a. gonzalez rios Oh my gosh YESSSS
Agreed! I adore Lilo but she also makes my cry my eyes out because she just wants a friend :')
Same 😃 and Raven from TeenTitans, but there are a lot of "weird girls" out there for then to remember all. They did the best they could 😊
It would have been nice if they did talk about Lilo though. She seems to fit the "space cadet" kind that they mentioned. Raven seems to fit the gothic smart girl.
carmen a. gonzalez rios, this resonates with me so much.
The ‘weird girl’ is what the ‘I’m not like other girls’ girl, thinks she is
I know, it becomes Cringy when the "quirky" girl is shoved under the "Not like the other girls" label! 🤦🏻♀️
It really irritates me when prepy girls try to be "quirky" thinking its cool. You used to make fun of people like us back in the 80s and now your acting like us?
She's not like other girls! She wears t shirts and sneakers!
...lots of girls wear t shirts and sneakers
She's not like other girls! She has morals!
...lots of girls have morals
😂
yellow crocs depends how talented the writer is. I like Wendy.
@@beccag2758 ikr they describing totally normal things
if society was accepting of being different, we all would be the “weird kids” because we would express ourself freely
Yes true... There is a lot of research done on scapegoating mechanisms but there is little one can do to prevent it from happening. I do believe making victims aware that there is nothing wrong with them as helpful. Unfortunately scapegoating is often a way for families or communities to hide problems that they feel cannot face. In adulthood, scapegoating became a way for adult children to hide the fact of family history of abuse by blaming everything on one member who seemed vulnerable for attack (and/or talks about it). Often the scapegoat is targeted by the siblings who were treated more favorably. In that way, the less favored sibling(s) becomes the punchingbag for everything that is wrong in the family. Family therapy can help but only rarely are the culprits and less affected family members willing to take part. So my focus would be on empowering the scapegoat(s).
@@umchinagirard1800 focus could be on sending sh*tty abusers to jail. You just described my history.
i’m not sure if that’s really true. some people aren’t particularly different from the norm naturally.
Society “is” more accepting of weird than ever. Look what THAT did to our country now. Lol.
@eldron29-a54 if you send all the shitty people to jail there wouldn't be enough jails, nor enough people left to work enough to keep society going. Who will run society if 95% of all humans are in jail?
Everyone is socially accepted as long as they are attractive.
naimasophie horrible way of thinking 🙄
That's not true at all. A lot of attractive people aren't accepted.
Agreed. It's super easy for attractive people to be socially accepted 🤷♂️
I disagree. Strongly.
@@mystic507 i really wish experiences and social studies changed my horrible way of thinking, i really do cause it sucks
"why are you dressed like somebody died?" "Wait"
Haha, the best Wednesday quote of all time, and Christina Ricci definitely played her to perfection! 😎🕸️🕷️
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“Are they made from real Girl Scouts?”
Girl Scout: Confusion...
Wednesday: *straight face*
Whoever wrote Wednesday's lines is brilliant and must have so much fun!
Ah, Joss Whedon tweeked this line for "weird girl" Willow in Buffy in sn 3: "Dopplegangland":
"Wait, Oh, God. Did Somebody die?" 😂😂
It's also funny to me that the blond girl scout is played by Mercedes McNab, who would go on to play "Space Cadet" Harmony on Buffy & Angel, lol.
i did not expect to cry in the middle of this but “when you grow up, your heart dies” “who cares?” “i care” really did get to me
I think about that sense in breakfast club a lot
Her acting was just so perfect in that scene as well
I felt that
OMG I'M UR 666 LIKE
@@schnitzelberry nice
Problem is, “weird girls” can be labeled as “I’m not like other girls” without that person having any saying in the matter.
the biggest issue with this is that a "not like other girls girl" chooses to be "wierd and quirky" where as an actual wierd girl simply wishes to be.. often even wishes to be "normal"
@@litchtheshinigami8936 I don't think so... Most "weird girls" are driven by their own principles and interests and pride themselves for their uniqueness (thus the confrontative attitude), they DO NOT want to be "like everyone else", they want to be accepted by everyone for who they truly are. The "not like other girls" girls try to stand out with unique interests but are actually pretty mainstream and think being weird is a personality when it's just a label.
@@spicychicken9163 the wanting to be normal part is from my own experience.. i used to be the wierd girl (the fact my nickname was Ghost girl probably already says enough) sure the ones in tv and media just want to be accepted for whom they are.. but the real ones want to be normal. especially at a younger age. they want to fit in instead of being the odd one out all the time..
@@litchtheshinigami8936 Well I can empathize with what you're saying. From my experience of being the "weird kid" I usually liked not being part of the popular crowd because there was so much pressure to be an Alpha Male (I'm a guy) and I really hate social pressure so in the end I became a loner/misfit but I ended up liking my own quirks and having a sense of individuality :)
@@spicychicken9163 ah i see.. in my case since i have Autism and ADHD it was really hard for me growing up.. i often felt left out.. where others would get birthday party invites back in primary school i'd always be ignored.. i do understand that part of not wanting that.. i did have a stage (between 15 and 17) where i just really didn't care anymore and embraced the wierd so to say. now i just don't care either way.. i'm just me and i don't have anything to prove so yeah
“They say is you scratch the surface of a cynic you’ll find a disappointed idealist”
Wow I really identify with that
The quote that summarized me
So true
Same
Same
That was George Carlin in case you didn't know, technically a stand up comic but in reality he's more like a philosopher. A brilliant man.
I'm glad that they included Orla from "Derry Girls" as an airy fairy Space Cadet, in the vein of Luna and Phoebe. I love that she sticks to her guns, and that her friends embrace her weirdness by dancing with her when her peers are laughing at her for liking step aerobics. 💃
Orla is the best and that dance scene makes me happy cry every time I watch it! 😭❤️
I love Derry Girls so much!
Orla is truly gifted. She could go pro.
yeah orla always reminded me a bit of luna
I love the step aerobics bit
Just like "cool girl" is a male fantasy of a girl that is not like other girls (read: she's extremely convenient), "weird girl" is a female fantasy of a girl that's not like other people. It's the cool girl many of us actually want to be.
Many people want to stand out and being a weird girl is the most possible and natural way to do so because weird girls are portrayed as not up with the 'standards' but the more you get to know her the more you feel for her. This makes them the most relatable and authentic characters out there.
Growing up adoring this trope, this is exactly the way I felt about it.
OOOH DEEP.... STFU.
@@user-ou4yt9qf8e I think the most appealing part is that "weird girl" never tries to please other people and doesn't blindly conform to norms - if she likes something, she just likes it and doesn't need anybody's validation. We all wish we could care so little what others think. Of course, like any fantasy, this trope also sometimes gets out of control and breaches into unhealthy territory, it's a matter of crossing the line between confidence and arrogance.
As it turns out, though, the weird girl has always been the weird girl-- it's society's perception of her that changes. Anyway, most people aren't 100% one trope or the other, these are just archetypes. Lots of women are weird, cool, smart, etc. all in one.
Most weird girls are not PRETENDING to be different. The cool girl is.
I am the weird girl, and the funniest remark I probably got is "You seem like a serial killer." I was just sitting in a corner and bored about the party.
Weird girls are good in shows and literature because we see their motivations, desires, and their sensitivities and traumas. In real life however, we don't, so people avoid her because they can't figure her out.
Im socially awkward. I think that it makes me seem more intriguing to ppl. And when I blow up, I think I unintentionally hype ppl up. maybe ppl r just like ohhhh sh, there goes the quiet girl. 🤔 honestly, I think she had it in her tho. 😍 the underdog 💪, im rooting for her 👊. :/ idk. I dont intentionally mean to be any way to ppl. Its just based on my feedback. Like one of my co workers today, made commentary in her head about my bf & I going at it from across the room. Apparently we look that entertaining. He pisses me off so bad sometimes. I always think we're gonna get fired too. Have no clue why management puts up w/ us :/. Lawd, we need to stop...
Definitely. The weird girl is a neurodivergent woman in real life, and we are NEVER given the benefit of the doubt like in media.
Me pasa eso todo el tiempo
Omg the amount of times ive heard this. This and "you would be perfect as a cult leader".
"the right type of individuality"
Society has a nasty habit of praising only the "right type," whatever the hell that means.
For example dont be a serial killer... OK people find it attractive in media but please don't
The right type is the attractive type.
you said it. IN 1920s it's a flapper, in 1930s it's a glamorous actress, in 1940s it a femme fatale, in the 50s it's a housewife, in 1960s is a liberated and sometimes drugged sexy lady, in 1970s is a hippie, in the 80s is athletic career woman, in the 90s is a romantic lost girl, in 2000s it's a cool girl, in 2010s is a superhero, in 2020...?
@@julijakeit in 2020 individually and freedom for females is sexual liberation and acceptance for being provacative.
Luna is always my fave because she has a heart of gold and is very self aware. she knows she is different and people don't get her and make fun of her but she still responds with kindness and compassion and wisdom and that's beautiful. is a world where everyone is determined to tear each other down and criticize everything we do we need more Luna's. Unabashedley herself but also the sweetest and kindest and purest heart and soul
Yes!
Lucy Preece honestly, she was the best and most interesting character on Harry Potter. I’ll fight anyone on that 🤷🏿♀️
Luna, Lupin and Tonks were the best HP characters for me. I always wanted to be like Luna
@@AndyD.21 Oh, I like Tonks and Lupin a lot, too. ^^ Are they somehow simmilar? :D That's strange.
period stan luna
Why is the “weird girl” usually brunette? Weird girl is usually surrounded by what the world perceives as darkness (goth/grunge/witchcraft), or wears dark colors, has dark hair, or dresses either too old or too young for her age.
and the "cool and mean girl" is always blonde
Idk, im sorta pale with black/brown hair. I really think that its because of popular culture that people tend to match these weird girl (characteristics: dark hair, pale skin) in movies. Everyone thinks of these features as weird or unappealing in some way. Lighter haired or blonde people have always been displayed in movies as the opposite of what pale girls with dark hair are. I think Drew Barrymore, dakota fanning and kristen wig are examples of weird girls who are blonde.
Because brunettes are considered plain, ordinary, or ugly. As blondes are considered beautiful. Red heads unique and “fiery”
@@gummywormy7612 most people are natural brunettes so obviously we aren't ugly. There are a lot of brunettes who are beautiful, but the preference for blonde women is more biologically preferable for men because it is seen as rare. I think the part where I do agree with you is that from the point of view of the average man, brunettes are considered 'ordinary '. It would be unfair to assume that as dark haired women we r ugly lol.
Leemythic you need to read my comment again. No where does it say all brunettes are ugly.
As an autistic person with ADHD, I think "the weird girl" almost always tends to fit the criteria for some sort of neurodiversity.
My mom has compared me to Daria and I often relate to "the weird girl" bc it tends to reflect how I've grown up and been treated in my life, though not always how I act
When I watched this, I didn’t realize thats how I really am viewed to other people
i think so, too
@@dagmarmedabrejlova8825 samee
Same! I'm 30 and still trying to get some kind of help with my adhd and autism
Same. Also, so is my oc, which is the rare combination of space cadet and a basket case.
The Token Black Girl Trope NEEDS to happen
Elsa Yes 🙌🏿
Hollywood is ran by straight white men, which can explain a bit.
YES
@@synflwr true, a breakdown would be nice tho
YESSSS
I went through an entire 14 years of school in my town as the "ugly weird girl." Having other kids tell me I should kill myself for being ugly didn't exactly make me well adjusted. Even then, I never let them take all of my joy and things I like from me. I hope all the weird girls out there now keep doing things that they love.
Warrior Goddess🌷
Fuck them. I went through a similar scenario too. Well done for staying true to you!
Ayeee same. Aliens unite.
That's rough 💔 Glad you're doing you and supporting others
School is so toxic sometimes. Kids will literally pick on anything! My friend got picked on cos her teeth were too straight...like what?!
Glad you didn’t let that get to you. Having a thick skin like that at a young age is amazing!
Oh my god can y’all make one of these breakdown videos on the “Fat Girl” trope and all the stereotypes that come along with it? That would truly be fascinating and informative on such a popular and offensive trope
YES!!! I just wrote a paper on the sitcom Shrill and spent a lot of time thinking about how well it avoids all of those tropes, but truthfully I hadn't considered how structured and limiting the tropes were before
Totally, I love when the Girl's weight isn't made into her defining characteristic, but she can still find love despite her insecurities, such as in "Isn't it Romantic" or "Dumplin".
@@Cherri_Stars Is it worth going back to Shrill? I found the pilot so depressing and I didn't think I could continue to watch her date Ryan.
YEEEEEEEESSSSSS
Like how a lot overweight girls like to shame skinny girlz like how people shame overweight ones. A lot of overweight people act like being unhealthy is "cool" and not being healthy is lame. Im very body positive but when you start acting like you're better than others who want to take care of themselves, that's when it gets ruined. I hate it when overweight girls act like being overweight is some sort of amazing personality trait
These characters aren’t weird just unapologetically free from society
Kendall Jenner once described herself as being the weird girl and I was like wtf lol
wth? lol
She’s trying so hard to act oppressed
Weird girls are actually interesting/not basic and have things easily handed to them
@@plaguerat7015 resemble much? 😀
Girl,no. We do not claim you. Good grief.
The difference between the weird girl and the not like other girls girl is that the weird girl isn't doing it to be unique or quirky. She isn't showing off and trying to connect with other people through her "rare and quirky," traits. She isn't doing it for other people. She's just being herself.
I think not like the other girls is genetics & what not. Weird girl is that one wearing bright red eye contacts staring you down, but she's in front of you in the line instead. Yes, this happened to me before. Not sure what her purpose was but the less I wanted to look in her eyes. I still love guinea pigs tho.
Can we do the funny best friend? (And talk about how outdated sassy black friend is)
Ugh, yes!
Yes please!! Often sassy, sometimes over sexualised, always the side kick to the main character. Has no real character development outside of aiding the main character.
Also the gay best friend. That character is literally their sexuality and that is it
They've expanded the sassy black friend to include the sassy gay friend 🙄 I think the worst depictions of this trope I've seen are some of the Bring it On films especially 4&5
Or the sassy gay friend (who seems to hang out exclusively with straight, overwhelmingly white, people)
I always felt like the awkward misfit, I was the dark, ugly and childish girl in school I tried to change but I couldn't nobody liked me because I always said the wrong thing at the wrong time and the people I wanted to be friends with always pushed me away and because of that I always cried and tried to change to look like the cool girl in that time but I couldn't cause I wasn't as rich as everyone. I even had a crush on the geek boy once and he ridiculed me in front of the whole class. People would just use me to feel good about themselves.
Dawn from “Welcome to the Dollhouse” is such a sad character. This poor girl had nothing going for her. But this movie portrayed this “type” so accurately it hurt. Amazing movie.
I know.. It's SO UNFAIR 😭😭😭😭
Forgot about that movie!
That was a great show☆
And then she grows up into a beautiful young woman only to get sliced to ribbons in a bathtub ... even Hollywood couldn’t let her have a happy ending.
I relate to her and Carrie.
@@seaturtlepoppy7679 Except for the sequel, "Palindromes" which opens at Dawn's funeral. Dead in the start of the movie at the age of 20
What I've found is that class also separates the acceptance of the weird girl, too. In real life, the weird girls I know, especially as an adult, wear weird clothing to reflect their inner-uniqueness. Their clothing is mismatched or vintage-looking; they look intentionally poor or lower class. The rich weird girl, like Gigi, has far more acceptance because their class allows them to access and navigate different sectors of life without fear of ridicule for their weirdness. Lower middle class or poor weird girls like Allison, Dawn, or Carrie are weird either unintentionally or as a coping mechanism. Class freedom allows some girls to embrace weirdness and some to hide in its shadow.
Great perception .
Not every performative Weird Girl is middle or upper class. Certainly you can achieve certain aesthetics (e.g. punk) on a budget. But I don't think it's an accident that a lot of the goths and more stylized Weird Girls are relatively privileged. Janis Ian, Daria Morgendorffer, Lydia Deetz, etc. Their weirdness is a performative rejection of their conventional middle class environments.
Exactly I think a lot of people don’t really understand how class plays a huge role in this. A lot of people come to copy the more grungy punkish style but it originally came from people who shop at thrift shops who had no choice but to wear clothes that holes in them.
Right when you're rich your eccentric, when you're poor you're just crazy. It's all relative 🤦♀️🙄😈☠
Ethnicity can also be factored in, but rarely is...
I feel like one aspect overlooked about the smartass weird is that she is often (though not always), ironically as bad as the people she judges. She think she is above "normal" people but her judginess and resistance to be introspective can makes her worse. She thinks other people are lesser for falling into tropes when she often deliberately plays into a trope. I'd love to see a smartass weird girl who learns she isn't above "normals" because people are more complicated than the simpletons she sees them as.
Booksmart does this a bit, though the main characters are more nerds than weird girls
Well then you need to watch Daria.
I mean it usually is the same in real life...
The sad thing is, in real life, the average person really isn't.
You die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
When you automatically get labelled as an "I'm not like other girls“ girl and get mocked and bullied, because you are into something nerdy or have specific tastes/ hobbies - even if it's just your love for literature. There's nothing quirky about being mocked by society, being lonely and different. I hate the "I'm not like other girls“ trope because it just throws everyone who’s a bit diverse and minding their own business under the bus.
Yeah I agree. I can't stand that trope anymore, it's so annoying 😒
Edit 2022: The "I'm not like other girls" memes and saying them in yt comments are getting old and annoying in my opinion
The wierd girl is real. It's hard being the wierd girl in real life, when nobody likes you, you sit alone at lunch things that seem normal to you like knowing a literary reference are causes for ridicule and alienation, verbal and emotional abuse are thrown at you every day....
You'll find your people. I did. ☺
😭😭😭
I agree I wish I wasnt exist at all just to suffer
@@saumd713 word.
@@ladyredl3210 Yeah? And at what age did this happen kind stranger? Because I'm still strugglin in my thirties. Not that I don't have friends, but I'm certainly the first to be singled out and excluded from any group on account of my blessed weirdness.
I'm surprised Raven from the Teen Titans wasn't included in the "Goth Girl" category
kenneth taylor and Amy F from BBTon the unfit one
@@fuyoutube5708 I love me some Amy Farafouwler!
They also left out Mabel Pines, though she doesn't fit into thee categories. I wish they made a category for the social and outgoing weird girls
Caitlin from Caitlin's Way is a great example. and J frm My First Mister. both are goth outcasts/alternative but going through a lot and the audience sees depth. they're both vulnerable and don't want others to see it.
True, but she is what most so-called weird girls think they are... a demon from another dimension whose destiny is to destroy a world that they hate.
“Marla Singer did not have testicular cancer” 😂😂😂
Ikr hahahah love it
I remember watching Fight Club for the first time.
I was quiet literally rolling on the floor laughing, I was already sitting on the floor, wondering “What kind of movie is this”.
My favorite kind as it turned out.
It's even better in the book
I've never watched fight club, but when I heard that quote on this video, I immediately cracked up. XD
"baby that's so creepy. I love it."
I want someone to say that to me.
If society was so much more accepting of weird girls, I wouldn't be so psychologically and emotionally damaged today. Just admit that only attractive people are widely accepted for who they are.
Pretty privilege. Nothing to do with clothes, sexuality, race or make up. If you're pretty you can get away with practically anything.
Lol.
Attractive people aren't accepted for who they are either. They're only accepted for their attractiveness.. ughhh
@@shreyaadahall omg this is soooo true
@@paulriggall8370 😂🤷♀️𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗮 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗲 𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗮 𝗻𝗼𝘁 but either way that's how i got into my current high-school after getting in so late around Feb i didn't even have to apply the grade 10 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝗱 𝗮.𝗸.𝗮 𝗛.𝗢.𝗗 🤷♀️ teacher there thought i looked pretty because she kept mentioning it and i have many more stories similar to that😂but to be 𝗵𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘁 not everyone will perceive beauty the same way that's why beauty standers even exist to begin with😳so there are actually beautiful people out here that hardly experience what you say "pretty privilledg"👀which is why some say it real and others say it's not.
Kind of disappointed Cassie from Skins wasn’t mentioned or shown here. One of the most iconic Weird Girls of recent years.
Movieslurge2 Janeane Garofalo!
I loved her!
Definitely get where you’re coming from but she wasn’t really a weird girl she’s still had group of friends, attractive and part of her odd behavior was more obviously to do with personal struggles mentally such as her eating disorder. I think most people just saw a girl with clearly a lot of personal issues that effected her behavior. At least according to this video’s standards of one, I definitely say out of the skins UK series from that generation in particular it is ‘sketch’ who would fall within the line of the weird girl trope, and being the weird basket case girl who ends up completely losing it & ultimately became the antagonist.
She is a nice example, I think, but, as it has been mentioned in the comments, she is mentally unwell, just like J.J. from the same gen.
Also, Pandora from Gen2. She fits the Space Cadet description rather well. Especially in the earlier episodes. What I especially love about Panda is that her character arc didn't show her becoming conventionally pretty or even having a style-typical makeover. By her graduation in S04 she feels less weird, but that's mostly due to growing up and embracing herself. Her actions and words became a bit more adult and refined, while her over-the-top goofy outfit style stayed with her. I actually really liked the writing of her character.
Everyone from skins is kind of weird.
Imagine being the black weird girl...i.e. me. My life is sort of like the video, just with more casual racism and no friends.
Katherine Winters Brown girl here! Totally agree! I also had a language barrier to overcome.
let's be friends
Dang you just spoke to my whole life experience. I'm in college and went to a predominantly white school for my entire life and my life still sucks to this day. I hate being black and weird, but I really can't change even if I wanted to 😔😔😔
Hi friend!
...and throw being fat in there, too. I've always been the chubby, smartass, quasi space cadet, black girl.
I noticed being the "weird girl" once I get college was like... totally cool. People didn't care anymore. In fact, they started appreciating my difference and eccentricity. Loved that.
Please do a "shy girl trope, explained" video! 😊
like mandy moore in a walk to remember?
Shy girl til she gets a makeover
I don’t know, I feel like that’d be a rehashing of the good girl trope or a reiteration of the Pam Beezly video.
I feel that nowdays the weird girls don't dress in black anymore, since wearing black has becose more fashionable (excluding who follow goth style). Wearing very bright, shiny and strange colors in some situations makes u stand out more
Edit: we talked about girls but I think it's about boys too, but they don't got rappresentation (probably because society tends to lebel boys less, or bully them for being different. I said it.)
Oh shit we need a bizarro weird girl to fight the normal weird girl
Yes. Black was once mysterious and scary to the mainstream and now they hardly wear anything else. It's become the new navy blue.
Yeah a good example is the girl with the spacebuns from sexeducation
So totally Agree now wearing bright color 80's fashion neron colors clothes. When i've was little, my father called me dumb blonde or Valley girl while my aunt called me teenager Bopper my family so cruel abuse to felt like black sheep.
@@zeeschaaf Good example!
Everyone wants to be a Daria, but are really a Tina Belcher.
Tina belcher is at least somewhat cute
Both are great
I'm lodged somewhere firmly in between :P
I feel this so hard
I'm more of a Jane Lane. 🎨
I really liked "weird girl" representation in Daria. And almost complete lack of romantic drama. I would not even use the word "weird", since those types of girls simply exhibit aloof behaviour, not willing to waste their time and energy on dealing with the bullshit that surrounds them. And boy, do I love a story centered around a female character AND devoid of unnecessary romantic lines. It's so rare to stumble upon a solid, well-written female character whose aspirations extend far beyond eastablishing romantic relationships.
Yeah, thank you! I don't like when they show teenager girls involved in romantic situations, mostly and chasing the popular boy in the class like Braceface.
she literally got in a relationship and also kissed janes boyfriend almost ruining their friendship over some guy huh?
Movies and tv shows referenced in this video:
- the craft
- order of the Phoenix
- ghost world
- carried
- welcome to dollhouse
- frankenweeniee
- mean girls
- breakfast Club
- addams family values
- orange is the new black
- daria
- Jessica Jones
- stranger Things
- 2 broke girls
- I married a witch
- thelma n Louise
- wizard of oz
- female
- maleficent
- sleeping beauty
- glee
- Beetlejuice
-booksmart
- derry girls
- parks n rec
- ncsi
- fightclub
- f.r.i.e.n.d.s
- haxan
- sasame kind if wonderful
- my brilliant friend
- Macbeth
love you thanx
+ little women
Ok...Order of the Pheonix , Beetlejuice and fight clubs I get it...even though theycarexmy childhood faves... everything else is just mainstream withclots of hypster and goth vibes
You confirm you're the weird girl by having watched all these (for obvious reasons) lol
@@KCF15 me? weird? 👀 I don't know what ur talking about. 😗🎶
Well...no. Society is in no way accepting of “weird” girls now. Luna, April, Allison, Wednesday, all these girls have at least 2 things in common: they’re odd and ATTRACTIVE. If you were to really do a character study on Dawn Weiners you’ll find that she’s bullied for being unattractive and awkward, and therefore is seen as being weird. Life would be immensely difficult for her in any era because she can’t be validated by her looks, which isn’t fair but is unfortunately true.
dawn wasn't ugly though she's average
Yeah. The male brain will always see what it will see and all those who are not slaves to it will notice the 'value' and respect it.
Attractive to who? Lol
@@oooh19
Ugly by Hollywood standards, anyways.
Who tf find Wednesday attractive? She’s a CHILD
Counterpoint:
We are not more tolerant of weird people, we just like Hot people, whether they are weird or not.
If you’re weird, but you’re not hot, you’re still screwed
True weird people who are ugly have the most people shitting on them. Its ok for a girl like Billie Elish to be "weird" because shes hot so she has the right to wear baggy clothes and died hair but if i do it people will call me an sjw or freak.
@@TiffanyRay how is billie hot?
@@virces6563 She's thin and has a pretty face. That's how.
@𝓣𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓪 𝓜𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓾 i disagree, i think it's an imposition of dominant sectors who makes us believe what's pretty, what's not. The same goes with skins colour or the idea of good and bad. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so it's subjective. But in occidental culture we already have standars of what's beauty.
@@marte1376 but that subjective part is heavily influenced by advertisement.. you consider Beyonce hot but in my country she wont be considered beautiful.. coz we have been made to believe that fair dainty women are pretty ones..and tall dark and muscular ones aren't..
When you’re a Lesbian weird girl, you get ostracized because you have different interests, then you get different interests because no one wants to hang out with you. They pick you out from the beginning because they sense something “wrong” about you. You’re not like the others and you never will be.
Signed a lesbian space cadet, and proud of it
Yes true .. There is a lot of research done on scapegoating mechanisms but there is little one can do to prevent it from happening. I do believe making victims aware that there is nothing wrong with them as helpful. Unfortunately scapegoating is often a way for families or communities to hide problems that they feel cannot face. In adulthood, scapegoating became a way for adult children to hide the fact of family history of abuse by blaming everything on one member who seemed vulnerable for attack (and/or talks about it). Often the scapegoat is targeted by the siblings who were treated more favorably. In that way, the less favored sibling(s) becomes the punchingbag for everything that is wrong in the family. Family therapy can help but only rarely are the culprits and less affected family members willing to take part. So my focus would be on empowering the scapegoat(s).
[presents with a rose] Marry me!
'picked you out from the beginning'- too real.
This also is the same for autistic/adhd weird girls- also a space cadet. To an extent though my weirdness is seen as quirks and more endearing and adorable, but I think part of that is because I hide the messier stuff, the socially unacceptable things to be more digestible. I am true to myself, but people don’t see the layers of anxiety and the fact my brain is constant noise. They see the bounciness, the enthusiasm, the bubbliness and “random” things I say (which is unintentional and mostly me not understanding what is appropriate to say), talking excessively (which is the one people tend to get really annoyed at, but I mean I say about 10% maybe of what is in my head aloud their brains are mostly silent and they don’t understand that if I sit alone with my thoughts I think I’ll explode, also I don’t always know how much is the appropriate amount to talk for the situation or when to stop talking and even when I can pick that up at times it can be very hard for me to stop (think Robin’s monologue from stranger things. oh and the interrupting and poor volume control also makes people mad but I can’t help it
“Why are you dressed like somebody died?”
“Wait.”
The Awkward Weird Girl gave me flashbacks to elementary school; I don't miss that time in my life or that version of myself.
The Medicated Artist I know what you are saying. I don’t miss it either. I send love to those little girls🦋
I was the awkard misfit in middle school and highschool those years were hell.
Freaky DollHouse I don’t doubt it for a minute. It’s crazy what some people have to endure. I’m so glad you made it through and are here with us now. I send you and that sweet little girl lots of love.
Same
I even tied strings to my finger too
but it's not like I knew it was from breakfast club I just did it because no one talked to me and I was bored
It was the worst tbh
the next guy 🐛♥️🦋
. Luna Lovegoode is my favourite HP character. She was a good friend, kind, very smart and accepting of others
6:26 "Sometimes your shallowness is so thorough it's almost like depth"
That's just brilliant
I'm a little bit sad that there's a whole video on the weird girl trope and no mention of Lilo Pelekai! She's one of the best examples of the trope albeit a junior example. Somewhat unusually she also eventually finds acceptance not through conforming to the expectations of others but because she finds new friends (especially Stitch) who love her for who she is.
pastelcloudpainter YESSSS absolutely. My fav Disney character!
I was the Weird Girl as a teenager because I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome. Now my daughter is turning into the Weird Girl because she's on the Autism Spectrum too. It's genetic!
This is how I feel. I should get diagnosed when I turn 18.
Same, I'm autistic and have ADHD and my mom has the same diagnoses
congratulations!!
I have it but I still feel like everyone else.
I've been a weird girl all my life, I'm fifty years old, and I'm still a weird girl. 😎💪🏻
That's so cool! I can't wait to be 50 one day and still be weird. There's this idea that it's a phase you grow out of when you become confident in yourself and stop looking for attention. It must feel great to prove people wrong!
Proud of you!
Yessss!!! Weird girls unite!!! Lol
I'm a weird guy at 34 only black guy who doesn't belong in the black community lol
@@kyfresh2death MOOD (except I'm not a guy). But we *do* belong in the Black community, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
the most poetic and pathetic think about this trend is that in real life the Weird girl is bullied.
Daria Morgandorfer is my spirit animal "i dont have low- self esteem i have low esteem for everyone else"
haha yes, i felt that, too
Another popular weird girl can be Penelope Garcia from Criminal Minds, she's a lovely character an super charismatic, at least to me
Yas ✨✨she's so cute ://
Garcia is great!
she is literally the only reason I continue watching criminal minds
It's ironic as a man, I always connected with the "weird girl" in media (particularly Luna Lovegood, Daria, & Wednesday Addams), granted it's probably because I am gay, seeing characters being ostracized for naturally being themselves, being misunderstood, etc. I could relate to them (all 4 types, more so the space cadet, smartass, and goth) I also loved how they had a strange, unapologetic confidence in their weirdness.
I like the 60's wedensday better. The upbeat sweetness jutxtposed to the creepiness is much funnier to me than the sass. Sassy Wedensday is alright though.
Teon Quant Same!
Literally just remembered a repressed memory where i was asked by the "popular" girls if I'm a lesbian in middle school 😭 not that they where wrong tbh..
I remember when I was in high school. I was a weird girl. A weird-weird girl. I was smart, kind, but hella shy and anxious around people. I had one real friend, who was also weird, but she was a badass and she kicked everything. She taught me not to be shy anymore, and stand for myself. We were bullied , her because of her weirdness and me because I was with her. We were always together. Later we hung out with other weird misfits that didn't know either how to interact with people, and it was cool not to be alone. My parents used to be misfits too, and I did not have the same norms and values as everyone in school (and found most of the norms stupid and arbitrary). I did not know how to dress "properly" according to standards, let alone interact with people. My only friend before had been another weird kid, who had undiagnosed autism (hypersensitivity - even his mother couldn't hug him when he was five -, showed no interest in normal people, but he was fun, and we had our own world in which we fought dragons, were scientists, battled each other in wind battles, invented a lot of creatures, invented physics laws, we talked about maths... We also both loved to read and read the same books.)
I wanted to be accepted and to be like other normal people really bad, but not bad enough to do anything. I was loyal to my friends, and was outraged when the "cool" people wanted me to "dress better" in order to be accepted. I didn't see the point, and also was furious that the way I dressed should have anything to do with them liking me. I liked dressing fun and would never change for them. Also, the few times I could talk with them, I found them boring as hell (but they seemed to have fun at the parties I was never invited in so I was a bit jealous).
I also think my bully secretely liked me because the few times where we were alone he was kind with me and we had great conversations about politics and actual cool intellectual stuff. But as soon as there was someone he was mean again.
In college, I learned to be cool and weird at the same time, hanging out with the weird people, talking to (almost) everyone, still reading way too much and liking weird things but I learned to make small talk and that makes a hell of a difference. And I stood up for myself and told my bully to grow the fuck up in front of a full bus on the first day of school and he left me alone.
Fast forward, 5 years after college, I'll be 23 in two months and I'm still a weird nerdy way-too-kind adult but got my shit together. I'm kind of cool, I think. Every people I hang out with turns out to be kind of weird in their own way. I don't think "normal" exists. Everyone can be weird if you give them a chance to express themselves. I love people and am an extrovert (and still talk to my childhood friend, but he's an introvert so whenever we interact too much he gets overwhelmed so we see each other once a year and it's enough). I also love painting, jazz, science, bad puns and 80's sci-fi books. I have read like only 35% of philip k dick's books but there are a lot, and scientific papers don't let me much time or energy left to read. Now, I clean my room, my appartment, and hand back my school stuff in time. I have a job to support myself financially and am becoming emotionnally independant. I'm studying to become a speech therapist and I absolutely love it, especially the brain-related stuff and neurology. There are still a lot of struggles, but I have friends, have a satisfying sex life, have a satisfying career plan, and I am, overall, happy.
To anyone that has is hard because of weirdness : I hope you are okay, here's a virtual brain hug, it gets better eventually. And other misfits can be cool too. And the key to interact with people is to welcome them and let them talk about themselves, people love to feel like someone actually listens to them (discovering this was an incredible revolution to me so I'm sharing this tip.)
Well sorry that was long but I felt like sharing. Thanks if you read to this point, and have a nice day.
I'm so proud of you 🥰
The end conclusion of this video just makes me laugh. The author obviously does not spend much time with junior high or high school students. I am a substitute teacher so I see the cruelty all around me.
Would you mind telling me about your experience? Ive wondered how it is these days since im not in school anymore, i understand if not though c:
Guess not.
Right. I was in a McDonald’s just yesterday and this group of girls were laughing and pointing at me lol.
Carrie wasn't the weird girl. She wanted to fit in but she couldn't because her mother was so psychologically abusive and oppressive.
Wanting to fit in but lacking the ability makes her a tragic take on the weird girl.
Um she is one of the few authentically weird women in this montage; her and Dawn. The goths are try hards. Smartasses are usually very sociable and talk a lot. Dawn also wanted to be accepted. Doesn't make them less weird; they are actual misfits.
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Most cool girls/manic pixie are brunettes. Notice the only weird girl categories with blondes in it were the "negative" ones, not the desired goths and funny sociable smartasses. I'm a natural blonde and I have always been a loner and misfit, now I'm crazy like basket case and space cadet. Brunettes with blue eyes are the most desired combination ever for women. My eyes are brown and I have always been ugly and unpopular. Many mean girls are brunettes, especially in real life.
Carrie is very weird thanks to being abused and never having socialized.
@Gina theVoodooVixen once more, by weird girl I'm referring to the trope, which she doesn't fit. She was definitely weird, but she was not "the weird girl".
She was weird because she was more sensitive then the other kids in high school, to the point where she had psychic abilities. Her mother just damaged her further by pushing religious dogma onto her instead of helping her understand her abilities, her growing body as a woman, and helping navigate society. Instead her own mother was a total basketcase and perhaps recognized psychic abilities in her daughter for years yet saw it as evil due to her religiosity. She also saw women and their bodies and inevitable sexuality as evil too. The mother may have been severely abused, schizophrenic, and delusional herself. Very creative abilities can run in families and the fall out may be a generation here and there that displays mental illness. David Bowie’s brother had schizophrenia, whereas he was a creative genius.
6:22 "No weird girl has a more vicious wit than Daria Morgendorffer"
That is exactly why friggin I love her so much.
Two boys at my high school once compared me to her. I've never been more flattered before or since.
@@PhoenixRising87 Glad I'm not the only one who takes that as a compliment 👍
I fit into the awkward misfit category. I don't often feel understood or affirmed. I didn't find out I was autistic till I was 24. I admire the space cadets for being sure of themselves and not caring what others think of them.
I've been called weird my entire life so I tried to be like everybody else and now people call me a good weird girl. Which just means that I'm weird enough to be entertaining but not too weird. And to be honest being called that is degrading
Oof im so sorry people can be so cruel
girl i feel you.. im so sorry that happened. people can be srsly cruel but don't ever let that convince u to reduce your personality just to be likeable. dont shrink yourself into a box bc in the end it will take away ur own happiness in an attempt to "fit in" :')
Those same people who go around judging others, are being judged also. Everyone’s pretty much full of shit.
Me too, but it doesn't bother me, I think I grew up becoming more tolerable and accepting of other people's tastes.
We should do the “Token Black” next...
Fairoa yes!
The token black girl is prob in white America being hated on for not being "black enough" & being a bit more financially well off. Sad but true. Or the hood "weird white girl.. " that doesn't seek approval & somehow breaks the mold. Either or.
Fairoa lmfao I was the token black goth girl 😂
They did it. Its called the best best friend/sidekick. They are either black, less attractive, fat, or gay. Or all 4
I would want to hear this from a black women's perspective though
"Luna Lovegood is weird."
Which is why we have no choice but to stan.
"Weird girls" are not "more accepted". Literally go on social media and it's just as nasty if not more. All that's change is which "kind" of "weird girl" is dragged.
Agree. It is worse than before. Now there is social media, and a lot more people can be easily dragged into hating and bullying someone for being "weird".
I honestly only think the goth girls are accepted on social media and ONLY if she’s hot
As a real-life weird girl I always resented the implication that I needed to be 'made over' or to change myself to become 'normal'. I couldn't even hope to achieve normalcy, being autistic and mentally ill made that impossible, plus I hate the idea of fitting in for the comfort of other people. Leave me to my weirdness and go away.
i learned to accept my weirdness and got myself weird amazing friends that love me
The goth girl was my aspiration since I was a child, I always loved all things goth: the style, the music, the architecture even.
But wasn't until I experienced people finding the things I liked weird that I became the weird girl. It comes with both sides: as a defense mechanism from the people that ostracize you, and as a form who accept who you are.
"The right type of individuality" is anyone else feeling the irony deep in their esophagus?
The weird girl trope is the media's approximation of girls who have autism. Like, if you look at a lot of the popular weird girls shown in this video, I would dare say most of them are autistic on some level. Autism was studied and diagnosed quite commonly among boys, but it's just as common in girls, it just goes undiagnosed most of the time in those girls who are higher functioning. When someone meets a girl like this, they unconsciously pick up on this, but don't consciously understand it, and so that's where their rejection of these girls comes from.
Yup
The more i learn about Autism and how it functions in girls, the more I wonder if I have it to some degree because i've always been the gothic weird girl, i've always stood out for reasons I don't identify. I don't have all the symptoms now but growing up I could relate to a lot more of them. Sometimes, other people just seem so alien and I struggle to understand why.
Someone could be the most popular person in the room and I'd still see them for their worst traits, then i'd struggle to see why they're so well liked.
I'm always creating elaborate fantasy stories, I don't see a point to socializing much and can go months without going out just fine. I don't have many friends because I don't understand the criteria for making them. It always feels artificial whenever i'm talking to someone new. Humans are very confusing, if anything isnt going well then i freeze up and have no idea what to do or say in that situation.
I wish I knew for certain but I always worry that i'm self diagnosing too much.
@@anonymouscandle1223 that's why psychologists exist darling
You are SO right! I completely agree.
Instead of humanizing and understanding them, they just fetishize it and call it “not like other girls, unfortunately.”
I was the smart girl and weird girl except I didn’t wear all black and I did want to fit in when I was in highschool but I was still called weird because some of my interests were different from others. When I was in middle school, I was the awkward misfit who was also a teachers pet.
So you were Luna lovegood weird? If so how could no one like you
MythKp No I was the awkward misfit/ smart teachers pet who was bullied.
Same but colder and intimidating, not showing a lot of emotions moraly grey
@@TheLeah2344 I am in high school right now and I am the exact same.
Me too, like, during middle school only teachers were my friends because I was too shy to make new friends once my best friend started to bully me ... awful times, I am happy it's over
I always feel like Diane in Bojack is a grown up Daria.
Lisa van den Hoven didn’t Sarah Lynn called her “Asian Daria”?
I thought that at first as well. I even had to look up if they had hired the same voice actress 😂 (nope, different person).
All of the girls in my class have completely different styles, hobbies, interests, and personalities. I dont know why we're still letting 50 year old white men write teen girls
Amanda: "I'll be the victim"
Wednesday: " All your life."
best line ever
We need more tropes explained! How about the doormat?
What about the nice girl?
@@claudiaartola4051 they already kinda did that one though.
@@masterywithdebraandkuku3410 which one? wasn't that cool girl?
@@claudiaartola4051 they reveiwed (don't know if I spelled that right) in the episode where they covered Betty.
@@masterywithdebraandkuku3410 I didn't see that one but I'm watching it right now. I wished they would have explore more "nice girls" instead of focusing on Riverdale.
My favorite trope because i think its the most diverse with personality
Popular Tubelr Very true. There's a lot of different ways to be weird, and a lot of interesting personality combinations. I think there's even more types of "weird girl" not mentioned in the video.
"If you scratch a cynic you will find a disappointed idealist" ----touched me at my very core hahahaha
Yep, 1 of the most relatable quotes I've ever heard, no exaggeration.
I am: black, goth and weird. I am accepted by a good amount of people because I'm outgoing and funny. I know that's the only reason why. I have had a lot of traumatic experiences in life and when I tell people about them and the state of my mental health they're always surprised or don't believe me. When I am giving into my depression and anxiety and don't act as if I have rainbows coming out my ass they don't really pay attention to me. When they do instead of giving me space they just try to make me stop being depressed and smile so they can feel some sort of accomplishment like they fixed me. Even among my peers I'm a pariah and it took years to be ok with that. I've learned to be ok with never being understood and just play the part at an early age. Sometimes I don't even know who I am and what part of me is real but I do accept the weird and goofy parts of me that help me cope with life. It's a struggle but I'm fine with being the weird chick. Besides black lipstick looks great on me, I'll never stop wearing it 🤷🏿♀️
Mors Domine Are you a Scorpio ?
Hello fellow black goth girl. 🖤 you're not alone. 🖤🖤🖤🖤
have you communicated that you want space? how do you know the just wanna feel accomplished
How to be a weird girl
Step one: Have black hair
(Unless you want to be the "space cadet" if so you can be blond.)
Deniz Sarıkaya lmao
I'm the "bleach blonde goth kid" in every situation.
Yes my profile pic is from before I earned that title.
I mean. Wasn't avril lavgiene's whole thing was that she was the weird tomboyish punk blonde girl?
Agreed, unless you're a witch, then any color is okay
*has very dark brown hair*
Ah fu-
I was (still am?) a weird girl, like kids at school legit told me "you're weird" and for some times I could relate to the weird girl character but at a certain point she started to get on my nerves. I guess because my weirdness was genuine and non-intentional, I didn't try to be weird - I just was. So seeing the character that is supposed to be me and having her doing everything to be the weird/mysterious one annoyed me. It was the same for girls in real life that try to pass as the weird girl. Being that one person, I can tell it wasn't fun. I questioned myself a lot and had really low self-esteem but ultimately and never got rid of what made me weird. The point is, the weird girl is a trope I appreciate when the character isn't weird just for the sake of it.
Preet Lalji Oh man, same!
Same. None of us really fit any specific "type" perfectly. Because no one is a stereotype, were all just humans. Hollywood isn't great at portraying complex characters that ring true, you just get flashes of relatability. When I was in my early teens I heavily related to Daria and Hermione but even that seemed incomplete.
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Preet Lalji i get called weird all the fucking time and i honestly dont understand why and im starting to think that people just stereotype me as the “weird girl” from what they see in movies. this is because i wear lots of black.