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You know why they called it Utopia? Because for most of us, there is no world in which we could afford this. Sad.
But some live in dystopian reality.
@@samulhardif8331
So true
It's pretty cheap
@@samulhardif8331 nothing is actually free, you’re paying for all that in taxes. Also prosperity is relative, I’ll take a 2k sq ft. home on half an acre with some privacy over a small apartment and free transportation any day. Maybe that is why expensive headphones are an essential item over there like a car, you can’t afford to disturb your neighbors with a 500 watt subwoofer system :)
@@mikeg2491 go to any lesser significant city in Germany and you'll get a house for the same price a middle America with a very large plot of land. You still pay 28% vs 37%, which doesn't cover for the literal $100k's of debt that most young Americans have. Not even close.
the connector is called a 2 pin LEMO connector. its usually used in movie or film productions for actually power and audio connections. its actually a really, really good connector and you can do lots of things with it. im fairly accustomed to it through the industry but never seen them on headphones before. :)
We use it in the automotive industry as well, for fancy test equipment
The LEMO is a company from France. They have very extensive spectrum of high quality connectors that they produce for different industries. Automotive, aviation, marine, space, military and so on. The most amazing thing I have seen from them are connectors used on submarines that cost 700-800EUR a piece and are certified for use in depth of 3000m.
"The background noise on this amp sounds like angels are using vibrators in haven" -Zeos 2023
Woah! Haven't seen a video from you for a while... or more specifically, CZcams decided to not display any of your videos on my feed for almost two years!
Congrats on the new space (don't know when you moved)! Looks much bigger and with no neighbors to bother.
Holy man youtube really is a steamy pile of awfulness.
As a subscriber, I never miss his videos, nor anything else that I've subbed to. It's all there under "Subscriptions", every day...
@Ian McSherry I've been subscribed to his channel for a long time. Didn't select the "bell" because I get overwhelmed with notifications, but in the past all recent videos from my subscription list have been present in the feed. Now it's over 50% crap that is forced on me... and most are not even relevant to my interests.
Welcome to CZcams in a post C hoe Vid world. Thanks for making it back!
When Z turns on all that stuff, half of Allentown’s power grid browns out!! 😂😂😂
🤣😂🤣
It just dawned on me, watching you turn everything on, that because you have all of this equipment, you really should do a video on power conditioners and power management.
I mean I may spend a TON of money on Solar.. So that feels like an audio write-off
Hi Zeos. Great reviews, thanx ! I have one question: I have a Singxer SA-1 and the Meze 109 pro. Would I benefit from adding the TA-22 for a different/better sound with this headphone?
A tube amp that easily drives planars is the Musical Paradise MP301 mkiii.
I think it puts out 2 watts. Drives my Sundaras with authority...tight and controlled.
And it's pretty cheap, and also has speaker outputs
To summaries, Zeos thoughts of the Utopia 2022 can be summed up between 19:51 - 19:54 before he snaps out of it.
Hey zeos, this might be a lil off topic.. but if you by chance get free time.. can you opine on mestmk2 with the TA26?
Do they pair well?(better than my dongle dacs)?
Entertaining review as usual Z can you judge if they are better than the Stax 009 through a mjolner kgsshv carbon
Stax bro... STAX BRO
im 30 unemployed live with my mom even 300$ can make me cry
Venture Electronics "Monk Plus" earbuds: $5, $7 with mic, $12 with USB-C adapter. Best bang for your buck in the audio world. Only downside is that it takes 6-8 weeks to ship from China.
Should i see my meze elite and buy focal uto+ia 2022?
I first need to get this amp, and that DAC, and this preamp, and don't forget the EQ and..... I'm workin on it.. I'm workin on it..
Can you do a follow up with the best sounding moral amplifier to drive these? Try the Singxer etc
Elears do exactly the same thing if you blow into the cups, also that spring is so annoying, I ended up rapping an cloth ribbon around the yokes to stop the cups from digging into my neck. The cable is pretty easy to fix with cable shirt pin though, like the ones you would use to hold wires from lavalier mic, but never the less last two things shouldn't be a problem even on a 500USD phone let alone 5k one
Feliks Audio Euphoria amp is what they use at the Focal factory with the Utopia. I'm saving my coins and recycling cans for these cans.
Good to know. For 10k (utopia + Felix’s amp + dac of choice) you can have the best sonic experience ever. Very achievable actually!
That Black Ice F11 looks sweet.
Aren’t the pots on tube amps used to adjust for subtle tube differences? Like they hook it up measuring equipment and tune them to compensate for the differences between tubes and channels. Did you just un-calibrate your amp to make the pots all look the same?
Interesting that you previously thought the utopia was nothing special and the difference with the 20 vs 22 is a minor upgrade in my subjective opinion. Both are the best headphones I have heard on tubes. Appreciate your reviews thank you.
That's the guy who did shit on Holo May and didn't get why bravura sounds great . He has major ear issues .
How does it compare to the Clear Mg?
Listening to a 5k headphones review on Quarks lmfao. Been putting Focals in my cars for years, never had any of their headphones tho
Zeos sounded like a Frenchman who lost his bread for a moment.
Nice shirt Zeos
just tested my Elears - the driver is also moving when I blow on it. So its obviously not the Beryllium driver but an overall design thing.
I purchased two Focals in the past few years, the latest being the Clear MGs, partly because of your enthused reviews. And both were bang-on sweet spot recommendations for me. Should the Utopia be considered as an upgrade?
I went from the Clear MGs to the 2022 Utopia. I will say they are better for sure and I am happy with them but with the Clear MGs you are getting 95% of the Utopia. The Utopias seem to have better bass control so when it hits things get less muddy and the vocals seem somewhat more forward. The overall sound profile is very similar mind you it's definitely something that would be worth listening to in person before pulling the trigger. Edit: One really nice thing with the Utopias mind you is that clipping you can get on the Clear MG when really pushing them is no longer a thing and I feel you can push them to whatever sound level is needed.
@@FSFLIGHTproductions Thanks for this. I ended up getting the Utopia 2022 and your description is very accurate. One could say that the Utopia 2022 is the end-game Clear MG for those who love the MGs sound profile. I'm driving them with an RME. Have you tried any of the high end tube amps?
@@jeedmodorn5494 Glad you got them. And yeah they are like Clear MGs but everything is taken up a notch. I'm running them from a A90D topping stack but I do want to try them on something with tubes. I have to say after having the Utopias a bit longer the gap between the Clear MGs has got a bit wider for me. When the track has a lot of dynamic bass the Utopias have almost HD800s levels of bass control which blows me away.
How do you hook up all of those amps to a single source device. I'm curious
Just curious if Z has heard any of the Focal car audio stuff. I looked into it, but instead I got some Hertz Mille Pro speakers, an AudioControl 5-channel amp (with built-in DSP), and a JBL sub in my Camry.
Certainly won’t be blown away for the price focal I certainly wasn’t and that goes for B&W aswell….
Any vague info about when the Archel 3 pro is releasing ?
Hey, what amp is good for these headphones?
I too had the weird thing where they push in on the jaw!!! Of course zeos the first person to report it lol. It did go away after the pads broke in some and now it's one of the most comfortable headphones ever.
How long did that take?
@@ZReviews few months. The’re my every day and I game in them too.
@@ZReviews maybe it was a few weeks, it happens gradually so honestly forget. But went all the way away. It's not like still kinda annoying but less. Like it doesn't exist anymore period.
"Angels are using vibrators"
Well if that shirt wasn't sending you to hell, that line is.
Utopia '22. and Enleum AMP-23R would be a dream.
Hi guys Is there such a thing as a male LEMO to female 3.5mm adaptor so that I can use aftermarket cables that work with focal Clears etc? ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
coomed for the thumbnail, stayed for the video
Dude, your channel is awesome, you seem like a dude who just likes tunes to sound good, and doesn't mind playing with angles and phasing, and all the cool shit you can do with just your ears, as a guy who's been playing with audio, for years, so awesome 👌!
these are $2200 USD in Australia right now, be rude to not get them.
Hey Zeos how do they sound on the burson soloist with a musician Pegasus dac, just curious
I'd imagine pretty fucking good. Burson amps are the real deal, bass & dynamics are strengths of theirs too. It's probably one of the best 3-figure amps with which to drive a Utopia, if I had to guess.
Having have both old and new utopia.. the new doesn’t have the special wow factor as the old one . But the old has a clipping issue on high volume
Zeos said rigamarau. Real nice.
Ok…so compared to your Elites??
still rocking that shuguang treasure cv181-z on the TA-26?
You can definitely cry, especially if you lose them.
how about some passive speaker reviews. I feel like it's been a while
It does. It always weirds me out. I see my amps collecting dust.
My Clear's driver does the same when you blow lightly on them.
Same for mine. Interesting.
That’s what makes them so dynamic though.
Cant wait to buy it. *[Currently living with my mom and earning 800 a month on a call center but ik it will worth the blind]*
have you ever officially introduced the new cats?? i missed it.
We need an official cat update vid.
You need to watch the unboxing channel to meet the cats
Did you ever try or know of anyone disabling the spring? I feel the exact same way.
Zeos, New Utopia vs Susvara?
there should be a way to adjust the spring tension
I listened to the 2022 Utopias recently, wonderful cans. But I tried it on the MHA200, didn't like it as much as solid state DCS LINA Stack (No shit right! LOL). It just dulled it and muffled it. It didn't do that tube magic like it does on the HD800s, which holy fuck did it ever like tubes! Only way to go with those.
The one thing I didn't like, the soundstage is pretty narrow. I compared them side by side, both chains had identical sound stage. Although the tube had a bit of an "Illusion" of more sound stage. I legit thought it had more till I did a real close A and B. Probably the frequency response. But if you paid attention, width was identical on both systems. That being said, the depth was really good. Felt like you can reach out forever.
I wish I had tried the crossfeed of the LINA to see how it opened up. I know it will never reach HD800s levels, no can does. But it definitely needs more for headphone of this class.
All that being said, I think you can fix a large part of the sound stage with something like a Black Ice audio sound stage expander or a crossfeed of some sort. And be in headphone nirvana.
I hope these are better than my Elear. Left channel gave up after two years. Was told I have to have two new drivers for £400. 😔
It seems to get the most out of a $5,000 headset you need another 5-$10,000 worth of equipment. I have a set of focal Bathys, and a gryphon dac. That’s enough for my budget. That as far as my rope will let me down the rabbit hole.
I still don't understand the use of proprietary connectors on expensive headphones, just give us dual 3.5mm or something that's plentiful of
I have a pair of Etymotic ER2XR. Not an expensive headphone, but amazing in the detail department. Anyways, they have MMX connections. Great right? They have proprietary MMX connectors. 🫤
It makes sense though because they don't want them to spin like regular MMX does. Still a bit of a bummer.
If only turning on all the amps made the sound of proton packs firing up from ghostbusters.
Hey Zeos, can you shed a bit more light on the Rebel collaboration. Btw did the utopia sound decent on the Rebel? You didnt really address that.
Glad you like Nine Inch Nails. They are goat'd.
Does Focal Utopia sound good from iPhone 12? Or it needs iPhone 14?
I'd be willing to wager that an iPod 2 or an iPhone 4 would stack up and be invisible from distinction against either one oy mentioned :D
in a double-blind A/B/X of course
Wait for iPhone 18.. That one will be best.
Those are Lemo connectors. They are very expensive. NASA uses them I believe.
So another reason to crank up the price while having no influence on sound
theyre used in movie productions :) for power and audio. very versatile and very good connectors!
@@blakkpatron Not really. They're 2 figure connectors on a 4 figure headphone. But keep bitching that things you can't afford exist I guess.
OG Utopia might be better pair to tube amps with it's lesser warm sound.
I don’t think any headphone or speaker system can make me cry but the grado rs1x certainly make me smile.
Hahahaha that thumbnail
I get sad every time you don't use the Solaris when testing expensive gear.
Those amps all measure flat but all sound different?
Go and watch golden sounds video about measurements.
Also are debating if a tube sounds the same as a solid state. Hope not.
No shit. Almost as if "measuring flat" is an extremely reductive and misguided way of viewing sound propagated by twats on Reddit who just bought a HiFiMan and a Topping amp to plug into their gaming PC and think they're the shit.
@@ChrisStoneinator exactly
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 definitely not, it's the irony that measurement heads think they have it all figured out when everyone with ears can see they're wrong. I know golden in real life, he says he has 2 amps that measure the same but one is cold and one is warm so..
Yes but wait, how do they compare to the Thieaudio Ghost?!
The ghosts are lighter
Haha! Sneaky! But so noncommittal. 🙂
Please can you react to the Rolling Stones top 200 singers of all time? Thanks.
Z play the tubes in UTOPIA there are no lawyers
Looks like a LEMO connector
So compared to Susvara???
Susvara is better, it looks like
Zeos, Sourcepoint when?
5 grand hey? Damn I wish I had that kind of disposable income.
Even if you did would you spend 5grand on a headphone?
No I like to eat too much.
@@blakkpatron not in this economy. That's going to groceries and bills to be honest
Z, I'll probably never own these headphones but if you could do one favor for a stranger, plug em in to the Black Ice and play a song called Arpy by Ola Kvernberg and listen at least until after shit pops off and then let me know how long it took you to un-melt yourself from the seat.
What's the song at 16:01 I'm not sure how to spell that
Nekomonogatari
what do you do for a living to afford all of this?
review headphones
I can have 125 KPH40's for this price! 😂
Basically it's almost the same headphone with bigger price... Not good showing from focal, unfortunately
Rebel Collab?
Being pretty much a rookie to this stuff, I think 5G's would better suit me to get a few different headphones, a couple of DACs including an R2R in there somewhere and a couple of different amps including a tube of some sort.
I think a 5G headphone would be lost on me... Or ruin me and I wouldn't appreciate other headphones.
Good Choice
That carbon fiber looks really dirty. :(
Hey, Zeos.... I wish I could afford to be a member of your channel, but I am on a fixed income and can't afford to do that. I just wanted to make you aware of "Yuin" ear clip headphones. They are THE best ear-clip headphones that I have ever heard, I can't wear earbuds because my ears are too sensitive, but for people that can only wear "clip-on" headphones, I haven't heard anything better. The G1-A's are the best, but cost 120.00 $, sometimes less, but the real value is the "G2-A", which is only 40.00$, and has a frequency response that isn't as good as the "G1-A", but have a better soundstage, and are half the ohms. :)
as much as i admire all these expensive headphones, 5K gets you into serious Stax country and, erm, yeah but no...Stax are the answer, but then again i'm seriously biased in case you cant tell.😁
Who cares what Z thinks. Pasta wants to buy these headphones with her own money.
I'll be ordering 2 utopias, one for backup purpose, just in case, you know.
Funny that for most other reviewers the new Utopia is not that different than the old model. Go figure.
Put it on layaway for 10 years…. 😂😂
Any review of a high end Focal Headphone should mention the outrageous price they charge for replacement ear pads.
Dekoni Exists. I wouldn't get stock replacements.
@@ZReviews They all alter the sound signature in some way. In some cases drastically. I own both the Clear MG Pro and Radiance. I was quoted $480.00 AUD for Radiance pads. I only paid $990.00 for them so 1/2 the price of the headphone!! Focal are taking the piss out of all their customers.
fax lol dekoni is the only answer.
Somebody buy me a pair and I will pay it forward
4000 USD is a huge amount to pay but I haven't heard them so can't pass conment
What's this garbage asking me to install some sync software just to see the wallpaper pics smh
Og Utopia for under $2k is a sweetheart of a buy… also give me a 10 foot balanced cable because non poverty listeners don’t listen at their desktop we’ve got listening chairs.
Like for real, where get all those dacs/amps for free....
Simple. Make a CZcams channel that reviews audio equipment and get a few hundred thousand subscribers. Companies will reach out to you.
@@EclipseCircle IMpossible when you live far away from manufactures and not willing to pay for international shipping and tax. Moreover, could be possible that he owns most of them. Most of us are pretty much broke, well at least thats what I like to believe or am the only one.
Ridiculous price for a pair of dynamics, with, objectively speaking, a worse soundstage than HD800S.
call the police!
CABLE, NOT WIRE!
Same idea
No I didn't read that..😂😂
yap yap yappppppp yap yap yapper
FOR FUCKS SAKE ENABLE VSYNC ON YOUR VERTICAL MONITOR
Horizontal sync?
No headphone is worth $5000 .
If you're poor
Also $5,000 just get you the headphone. You still gonna need better electronics or you gonna be wondering why your $5,000 headphone sounds average on your $300 amp.
Then how are they selling it successfully for 5k?
Damn these sound just like the meze 109 pros im actually surprised