Gibson vs Sigma - Hummingbird vs DM-SG5
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👆 In this episode of Acoustic Paradiso, Pete & Mick compare the Sigma DM-SG5 with the iconic Gibson Hummingbird.
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They don't sound exactly the same but that's irrelevant. The Sigma has a great sound, and sometimes it's the exact sound you desire. I would get one in a heartbeat.
Couldn't agree more mate I'd be very happy with a sigma version anythings better than the epiphone version apart from the inspired epiphone
Played one today. Nice guitar. Im tempted!
I played one as well. I too was impressed. Did you end up buying one?
Got mine sigma few week ago.... love it
I owe the sigma now for 3 months. I love it. Plays and sounds fantastic, really amazing guitar, will never sell it again. My dad has the gibson, and the difference is so minimal, that the price difference is not worth spending so much more money (in my opinion). You can't do anything wrong with the sigma.
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The Sigma sounded nice I will admit but it was pretty clear that the Gibson sound fuller all the way around. The sigma sounded tinny compared to the Gibson but enough to justify the extra cost IDK. The more aggressive they played the Gibson sounded much better but $2.5K more nah! If I am playing out then I am all about the Sigma wont have to worry about scratching it but if I am at home and have the cash Gibson all day long.
That tinnyness could be down to the strings they come with. The strings Gibson's come with are better quality.
Great video! The Sigma is a steal! For the price of the Gibson Hummingbird, you can get the Sigma SG5, the Sigma SG200 and the Sigma SG45 and still have money left for an amp and picks.
Been a long while now. The world has changed drastically for all of us. I started off with both funny enough. Gibson CS 1960 HB with FB. Using the other cheaper model for a carry around when I wanted to roam about on the street. At the time people's commentary about it being close enough was opinion - but it made sense in terms of safety. Carry the cheaper one when the weather is rough and the circumstances less than ideal. But over time, I realized that the gulf was more vast than people think. Rather than just bias - as I really wanted the practical advantage of the cheaper one for those above reasons - it just came down to not being able to ignore it. The vibe, the deeper playing experience, sitting alone during the lock down playing alone. Being able to take the time to compare. They aren't the same. To the point I even think I'd pay more for the HB. As stupid as that might sound in light of so many comments saying its not worth it. Perhaps that was the realization. That sound, it's not just sound. There is no 'close' - it either is. Or it isn't. All of a sudden that stupid little flag on some headstocks, 'only Gibson is good enough' made more sense. Rather than American arrogance. Or even just that. It actually rings true sometimes.
So if you can. Save that little bit longer. It's actually worth it. Helps you get by. Try as a I might playing the other I ended up giving it away. The new owner seemed happy enough. This isn't bashing you for your Sigma or saying it's bad. It isn't. But it isn't a Gibson either. For a company that gets so much critique for not being what it was. Something I've been guilty of sometimes too; that turned out to be wrong in my case.
Anyway I'll stop. I doubt anyone cares either way. Just another idiot blabbering on. But I do hope you enjoy whichever you bought. Just thought I'd add my own anecdote for the 'not worth the price crowd'. There is a lot more to the sound in person. Than you might think. And once you hear it? It scratches at you constantly while you play. Becomes hard to ignore. Anyway. /Fin.
I still want a highlight reel of Mick and Pete just handing guitars back and forth for an hour
ACOUSTIC PARADISO!!!! there's a God after all.
ayy dude
Guitaraholic458 Hey, We get around don't we?
Literally just bought the sigma one last week ( sounds and looks amazing!!! )
Great advice from Pete about trying out different picks. They make a huge difference in sound.
Yes, picks and strings.
I recently sold a 2014 Gibson dove. Couldn’t get into it! I’ll Never buy a guitar on looks or brand again.
Thats a good bit of buying advice. Always play first. Especially with acoustics.
It’s also very personal. Just one person thinks Gibson is better than Martin (for example) doesn’t mean you are gonna feel the same.
Always play first.
I agree but I like to choose the guitars that look the “best” to me because if its a beautiful instrument I would want to play it more. After I compile a list of the best looking guitars I then look at their specs and narrow it down further. After that I play all of the guitars by feel to choose my best guitar out of the bunch
It's crazy how much American guitars have gone up. In this video (2017) they say that there is almost a £2000 price difference. Just four years later it's almost £3000. Gibson SJ200 and Martin D45s have both doubled in price in just over a decade. Granted they are flagship model's, and were never cheap. But that's Rolex style inflation.
Our economy is going down the drain what so you expect. Leftist policies will only make it worse.
我就在日本买二手,爱贵不贵,我就不买新琴,我看它还贵……哈哈
Danish Pete is the best player at Andertons, clearly
Danish Pete, is this your Danish Sauna?
My thoughts exactly!
Welcome back Acoustic Paradiso! I've missed you.
mike o'neill yay! More acoustic guitars, please!
Missed you too Mike...
Danish pete man , andertons greatest asset
I've had my Sigma Martin for thirty years and it's stood the test of time perfectly I'll let you know in another thirty years if my Gibson hummingbird is still up to the job..... great vid guys cheers
It's jams like the one at the end when you realise just HOW good Mick and Pete are!
YES!!!! Acoustic Paradiso is my fav!!!
I listened to it without looking and I am glad that I prefered the Gibson. Makes saving up for one worthwhile. Mick & Pete, thanks for a great review and playing.
Any chance you could check out the All solid wood Sigma SOMR-28H ? In these kind of videos its always £500 laminated backs v.s £2500 solid.. But Sigma's has all solid guitars for less than £700. How about Sigma S000M-18 v.s Martin 000-18 and Sigma SOMR-28H v.s Martin OM-28?
Thanks!
I have a sigma SOMR 28, and i can tell you it's a great guitar. My favorite one. Don't want to pay much more for a Martin. Laminated ones are good yet, but they really should make solid models of Hummingbird and J200 too !
Cool! I got 4 Sigma guitars and i love them. OMRC-28E, SDM-15 (all solid mahogny), DR12-28 (12string) and DR-45. Great guitars. But that SOMR-28H looks really nice too.
I have a Sigma SDR-28MLE(madagaskar rosewood back n sides,adi top) and it whoops all my mates martin d28's:)
trollstjerne i really wanna get DR-45 how are you satisfied with it?
I have sigma DR-42 and i absolutely love it.
Greetings from Ellsworth Maine USA guys!!!! I always look forward to your segment on Andertons CZcams!!! been playing for 20+ years and love watching your videos, you both are very very good players. Cheers!
The different picks is a method you should make a standard for comparing acoustic guitars! I was amazed how it showed the responsiveness of the Gibson. Sigma sounds allright, but is "compressing".
Who is listening during quarantine?
I am
@@uffesommerlund6523 me too you should checkout the sigma hummingbird special edition solid back and sides includes case about 2000 dollars
I felt in the 'E chord test', anyway, that the sigma projected a wee bit more, sounds pretty dang close to the Gibson, maybe worth a closer look :D
Yeah but the tone isn't as deep as the Gibson.
They wont be selling them in the US because firstly, AMI are not allowed to sell these guitars in the US under the leasing agreement they have with Martin. Only Alvarez (St Louis Guitars) have the leasing rights to sell Sigma's in the USA. Secondly, AMI have only recently begun making Gibson copies, when Sigma was own by Martin, Martin only ever sold Martin copies. There is no way Gibson would allow a Hummingbird copy like the Sigma DM5 SG to be sold in the US.
Buy it from andertons then
Depends if you are in the US would probably be a better idea to locate a Canadian AMI Sigma dealer and order from them.
Nice jamming! I always like two guitars, one with a capo kind high up. They seem to blend well together.
Can you guys do a shootout vid between the Gibson J200 & the Sigma GJA S200? I want to see how good a $1000 guitar from China really is
I never found a Gibson guitar I like and usually they are quite expensive.... I had 2 Gibsons about 10 years ago but sold them again. My son recently bought a Sigma copy of the J200 and I like it very much, the sounds is excellent and the woods are much nicer than I have seen from most Gibsons of the same model. Following this my wife - usually strictly CF Martin - ordered a sunbusrt version of the Sigma 200+
Yes Mick and Pete are back, waited ages for this - Very happy
Sigma one sounds a whole lot better than the Epiphone hummingbird, Gibson sounds better than both but that sigma is what I would buy.
Great video, I like the always have fun factor too, that riff you start at 22:00 is awesome
I love watching you guys! Thank you for the work you put into these videos.
To my ears, from the chord playing around the 5 minute mark, the difference in sound isn't massive! May look at getting that Sigma after this
Sigma makes absolute killer guitars for the price. I might buy a 00015-m someday. By the moment I will stick to my Tanglewood union folk.
I've got the ALL solid Sigma SDM15E, The S000M15E as well as the 00015E and there is a definite difference in tone. I would guess the solid body Sigma would be even closer to the Gibson...
Thank you for doing this. Excellent as always. I know its probably not too much of a difference between this video's concept - but would love to hear a Gibson vs Sigma J200..
I always thought Sigma was the Martin offshoot isn't this like fender squier making a Gibson les Paul or epiphone making a strat. Sigma guitars are very good affordable and Mick and Pete show the best of what can be achieved through knowledge and outstanding play. Thank you both
Devon Really Martin used to own Sigma as their cheaper brand but they've been unaffiliated for a few decades now.
Matt Burke I bought a little sigma for my son it's very good but the logo is easily mistaken as Martin. Thanks for the info. Also I notice that Martin allowed things to lapse, fairly consistent for them over the years, they are Kindred brand in the US not sigma. Great quality though, Sigma.
About time ! Missed Acoustic Paradiso. Thanks for this Anderton's
Sigma SG series guitars back and sides are a Rosewood or Mahogany veneer over solid Basswood.
Mick's rabbit ears 😂
Mike.
Ninja edit....
Ricardo UK
Ah yes, corrected to Mick. Although I think we're splitting hares!
Insert rabbit jokes here ...
Don't go down that warren!
Was it intentional based on the placement of the wall piece and the camera angle? :))
Thank for this video, very enjoyable.Now I have quite a lot of information for these two guitars with your well demonstration.You guys are fantastic and it’s great to hear your collaboration
Dad gum Mick! We all know Pete is awesome, but you don't get enough credit. As an aspiring bluegrass picker I really appreciated watching you get going on that final jam. Tearing it up! Well done sir.
Through my speakers they sound really similar and I always thought for sure laminates and full solids will sound very different. I guess I have to try it in person to really tell.
The top makes a big difference, the back and sides much less.
Rob Blaize haven’t seen a laminate top guitar for some time didn’t know that was still a thing
I recently bought a used,perfect condition sigma SG5 ,i could not be happier!!it sounds almost as good as my gibson j200!!
it sounds fantastic!!i think it's better looking than any gibson hummingbird as far as colour goes,mine has the same thicker
pickguard as the gibson!! i have searched lots and have not been able to find another sigma SG5 with that☺☺,i changed the
tuners for keystones and it's even better now!i got this for the shocking price of £280!!awesome☺☺
That jam was SOLID!
Pete revealed the big secret of tone - Picks!
I'm gonna use different kind of picks to get tones rather than buying expensive guitars haha
Danish Pete, you're a genius! Love hearing you play!
I just go back to this video sometimes to listen to the intro jam. Great playing :D
These two are so much closer than the other video with the JM's. And the price difference is whopping. This one goes to Sigma. They both sound great and I really can't say I like one better. Even know as I am typing during a replay of the video that I cannot see, I can't tell one from the other. Obviously not being in the room I imagine it's different, but is it a difference worth $2k? Not from here.
And, was that Days of the New Mick was playing?
Mick with the Pearl Jam. One of my favorite songs!
A more evenly matched comparison would be the Sigma DM-SG5 vs the Epiphone Hummingbird.
The Epiphone isn't in the same league as the Sigma, the Sigma is much closer to the Gibson, I should know I own the Sigma and have tried the Epiphone and the Gibson.
I think the Sigma may be twice the price of the Epiphone, but that is still closer in price than to the Gibson. Assuming the comparison is about price.
Yes, the Epiphone is only half the price of the sigma and the Sigma is 20% the cost of the Gibson. My estimate is that you get 80% of the sound of the Gibson with the Sigma. The Epiphone is about 20% the sound of the Sigma.
Problem where I live, there are Epiphones everywhere and only one Sigma dealer. And they only have a few in stock, just the Martin clones and I never buy without trying and they won't order unless you buy.
Well that's terrible customer service from a Sigma dealer. It would never happen in the UK. All I can say is that I've tried loads of AMI Sigma's and they have all been consistently well made (especially the SG Series), so well made in fact that I've purchased 3 of them so far!
Both great guitars, honestly the Sigma sounds more even across the spectrum.
Such an awesome Jam at the beginning :)
Hahaha, the face Mick pulls at 11:07 after Pete's comment.
that captian commercial at the end
I learn what true wit is from watching Mick.
To me it sounds like the sigma projects a bit more while the Gibson has an overall richer sound, although the strings do indeed sound a bit more dead.
Mick needs to teach me that lick at the end!
...those two are highly underrated players...
Ole Blind Thumber Thuriot. What an absolute legend.
Effing brilliant review. I am now on crusade to get this Sigma hummingbird. Sure, it's not a Gibson, but it sounds great!!
The sigma is the closest I have heard to the real thing out of all the clones on the market including the inspired by Gibson Epiphone line. would like to add that the Sigma is a laminate back and sides.. and it still keeps up with the all solid Gibson. They also have an all solid vs of this guitar which I am sure is even better for considerably less.
agreed 👌🏼
I just bought one today. Love it. Can't expect more so such cheap price m
@Maynards so blue yes.
Im still trying to find a good vid of the Sigma Hummingbird 12 string.... ;(
Can you help?
That Sigma sounds VERY good. The Gibson has a more balanced sound to it, but it's too close for my liking (I own a Gibson Hummingbird)
These are like the ultimate combo!
We need pete and mick back for more acoustic paradiso videos!!!
Best ending ever, got to love a big thumb 😂
Blind thumber Terriot is my new favourite thing!
last jam is amazing.
You hear the depth in Gibson. I assume both guitars are great at their pricepoint, but I would bet on it the Gibson will age great and open up even more.
You're back!! Yesssss
Would love to see an accessory episode Acoustic Paradiso edition. Maybe even put some Mics in there at different price points.
Quite a noticeable tonal difference between these two. I suspect a difference in feel too. Both good acoustics though
guys, you're awesome. please do more on the rest of the sigma range - ooomr, om etc
Dudes, i totally miss this...
Next do Yamaha A series vs Sigma
I feel like the grovers have play in them because the gear ratio is higher than standard Kluson's making it more sensitive/takes more rotations to complete a whole turn
Please do a affordable 000 body size shootout
Martin 000X1AE vs Sigma vs Dowina vs Taylor
Micks drop D satanic thunder thing was awesome
DirtyBluesStank good name for a band
Hope to hear your impression on the new Taylor Acadamy series soon. Played some of the models recently and was very impressed! Cheers
I've had my sigma for 25 years or so it's one of my closest friends I've had tons of other guitars nothing comes close
LOVE the acoustic rendition of Even Flow Mick!!!! #PJ!!
Love your guitars,
Nice shirts guys :)
You guys should explore the Recording King dirty thirties acoustic series, they have a really great, old time sounding tone!
Hummingbirds always been my go to acoustic
Guys
The truth is I'd love the Gibson hummingbird but I just can't afford it, so on the back of this video I went and played the sigma and was blown away
It's beautiful, plays like a dream and has a beautiful tone. I compared it to lots of other guitars for a similar price and it's so superior to the Epiphone aj45me and many others
So I bought one
And I can't put it down
I love it
Thanks guys for helping me find a guitar I love 🙂
I like the sound of the sigma better
I own one and I think they are as nice as the Gibson Hummingbirds I've tried.
Agree.
The Gibson kills the Sigma. Cloth ears can save you a lot of money though.
Marcusesq Imagining you can hear that much difference between them is called ‘pretending expensive things are better to justify their existence’. If there is any difference, it is so minimal that it’s literally which sound you like more.
Sound is subjective. Each to their own.
could you guys give the Ibanez AEW acoustics a go? they're pretty good value, and feel killer for a player transitioning from electric to acoustic
Beautiful introduction
I love the opening Tu-dum from Netflix ;)
Has Pete kidnapped Mick and taken him back to Daneland? That's a lot of wood on those walls!
Mick the Easter bunny lol - just a tad early though!
There's a tiny notch filter thing going on, a narrow band of freqs that is missing from the Sigma's sound, making it a little less full and honeyed. Having said that, such a small difference in a direct comparison is an amazing achievement. If you played one on one day and the other the next day I think you'd be hard pushed to spot the difference in sound.
Nothing wrong with Waverely but they are way more expensive than Grovers.
Good dang best show I’ve ever seen!
Gibson sounds sweet and mellow, very good guitar! Sigma sounds harder and not so sweet, ok, but not as good than Gibson.
Hope you guys have got a similar comparison between the Gibson SJ-200 and Sigmas new(ish) SG200.
Technically I could afford the Gibson (honestly!), but I'd be scared to play it. So the Sigma might be a real possibility.
Video on the way....
I see Andertons got 2 in stock now. Time to record and upload a video :)
:( still waiting ..and they not stocking them now
I played one of these Sigma Hummingbirds a few months ago. I’ve owned four Gibson Hummingbirds (1990, 2006 and 2007, along with my current ‘05 Custom Shop 12 string) and the Sigma looks, feels and sounds 95% of the way there. I was astonished. I bought a Sigma copy of a Gibson CF-100 parlour which I LOVE, but was massively impressed by the Hummingbird. If I could have taken both home, I would have!
Hi there.
You owned the 06 Hummingbird? I have seen one for sale and am contemplating it. Did that year have any defects or niggles I should know about?
@@peterdoneganmusic absolutely no issues whatsoever for me. Wonderful instrument that I wish I still owned! I played with a band called The Mercurymen at that time, if you look up our album ‘Postcards from Valonia’ online, my ‘06 and ‘07 Hummingbirds are the main guitars on the album, and are easily distinguishable alongside my bandmates’ D16RGT and J45RW. From 1990 until now, Gibson have been making absolutely exemplary instruments. I type this with my 2015 SJ200 in my lap, happy as a clam!
@@JinderSongs great to hear! Thank you.
I’ve been a Martin player for about 15 years as my dad has been playing Martin guitars since the 1950’s.
I really wanted a D-28 but not in my bracket at the moment and have been looking at J-45’s as I love the tone but have been falling in love with Hummingbirds as they feel like a half way between a Martin Dreadnought and the J-45.
You can hear my 000-28LD in all of my videos too.
czcams.com/video/cFL4AiXJlFY/video.html
The Sigma looks better. There, I said it! More understated, smarter, darker fretwood. Sounds very very similar, and better when plugged in.
These guitars remind me of my 1972 Yamaha FG-300, Nippon Gakki.
Dear Pete in you're next video ...... Can you use a 50p to as you're plectrum .... like to hear the difference between the different materials
Superb demo 👌
Great to see acoustic paradise back at last. Love Nick's playing. Why are you crammed in that tiny sauna?
Mick's
sigma hummingbird or epiphone hummingbird?
Sigma for me
Sigma