[4K] NMIXX - “Kill This Love (by BLACKPINK)” Band LIVE Concert [it's Live] K-POP live music show
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🖤엔믹스의 “O.O”🖤
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I Love NMIXX
Thank You
Twice songs next, please!
please Do one more with NMIXX we want more 😭😭😭♥️ pls pls
I LOVE NMIXX
Thank You
Thank you for having Nmixx^^ We hope It's Live invites them again to cover another song!
Sullyoon proved to us that she's not just a visual but a Vocalist also. The power that she holds is fire!
YES YES YES
yesss
She's a lead vocal material. Manifesting for more line distribution in their comeback!
Not lead but she is good. Lily and haewon deserve the lead now and always.
TRUE! Actually her part in their song O.O have a really high note that's why I already expect it!
I was surprised by Sullyoon! She's not just a visual but a great singer and performer too!! All the members are extremely talented
Who is sullyoon?
@@baekwithsnehaforever9529 she's the one singing at 0:58
@@meyakmo4252 oh thanks...tbh she's gorgeous
Yes, she definitely is a great singer, and I'm so tired of all those news about how she looks, and how gorgeous she is, can we talk about her vocals now? Please! She is amazing
In all the comments you just see "visual, talent , great" please find more synonyms 😅
Still the best Blackpink cover ever exist. Cannot stop listening this version!
분명 익숙하고 너무 잘아는 노래인데 엔믹스가 부르는 순간 확 엔믹스 색깔로 물드는게 넘 신기하다...
This group has monster vocals for a rookie omg. Their debut song doesn’t do them justice
For real. First thing I thought is "they can't sing" so soo glad I found this video ~
Maybe o.o no, but Lily vocals in tank are magical
We talk about vocals so try singing O.O and lets see if the song doest to them justice. You thought O.O is easy to sing? That sht is tough
Wdym? O.O is a beautiful song. I vibe to that song a lot so im offended🥲
O.O is a nice song, i even got interested at the first time listening and then got better everytime i listened to it more. 😂
im so amazed on how talented this group is, like literally the main dancers are slaying with their vocals and the harmonies?!?!????????
fr they are so good kyujin jiwoo and all
@@humanmandu9684 jiwoo as well
Who? Ningning and Winter outsing all of them easily. No one can dance here. Karina is still a better 4th Gen dancer.
@@nightfuchsia Karina can’t dance to save her life Imao 🤣
@@nightfuchsia all aespa can do is lipsyncing so shut up dear my
Lily is amazing. Wow just started listening to her vocals recently and found NMIXX
Me too. This is the firstime I know kpop can sing like a Diva.
Yessss Lily is so Perfect vocal
As a Blink, I have endured several bad covers of Blackpink's music because they are not an easy group to cover. Their songs are VERY tailored to each member of Blackpink and the reason why the covers usually fail is because the people covering it try to replicate what can't be replicated, by design. Having said that, this cover is AMAZING! And the reason why, outside of the amazing talent of these girls, is because they didn't try to replicate. They took an iconic song that would ALWAYS be compared to the original and decided to switch it up completely and make it their own. And THAT'S how you make a Blackpink cover. Thank you for this. Loved it.
Same!
i agree with you !!
Agree❤❤
que
@@elmajorazzz5104 ¿necesitas traducción o no estas de acuerdo?:D
They are all very comfortable and confident in their voices. I really like these girls, their talent is undeniable.
Yes.
Ended AESPA lip sync queens i’m afraid 💅
@@pamv5807 pls don't bring up other groups, delete your comment 😤
@@ohheywon why should I? Did I lied? It’s a fact and I just state my opinion. It’s still SM’s fault why they’re keeping them from singing live that’s why they’re known for always having a lip sync performance. They better have a work in progress.
@@pamv5807 that's why they're flop🤣 their debut song the cheap version of NL 😆
More kpop group should harmonize like them. Like literally that's what music groups are meant for
WHY IS THIS SO GOOD AND WHY HAVE I JUST HEARD IT NOW
SAMEEE
Yes mark we’re both late to this banger of a cover
Yd u just-
Me too
prepare for this cover to play in your head 247
진짜 라이브 실력 4세대 독보적으로 1등인데 지금보다 훨씬 더 빛났으면 좋겠다...! 홧팅 엔믹스!
As a blink, this covered song is definitely the best. They don't sound like exagerated. Their voices are superb and harmonized. 10/10 for me
Same. I'm a huge Blink and I love this rendition. Cool arrangement and these girls can sang.
yeah and they didn't try to be blackpink, they show their own color with this song, and i love it
Ikr they added their own flavor in this song
agreee
Awesome. However, their voices sounded similar unlike Blackpink where all 4 voices are different and unique in their own way.
Good job NMixx.
why is no one talking about sullyoon?? shes hitting those notes so effortlessly
Shes soo good
RIGHTTTTTTTT
AND I LOVE HER SOFT VOICE KWSJKJdhl
she’s the balance of the group. while the rest of the members are fierce and charismatic, she gives off that cold and calm aura . and so does her voice
Her voice sounds good too (all of their voices are different and good)
Bae's vocals are so underrated. Nmixx slays so much
Nmixx are literally so talented istggg
JYP really wanted to make a group where there were NO weak links whatsoever. All these girls are VERY vocally strong, young, and have a lot of fight! I’m excited to watch them evolve over the years!
Maybe he saw how traumatized Twice is whenever people bash them for their weak vocals
@@christianandres7071 yeah :(
Hey! Does anyone know why Jinni isn't in the video?
@@loveu2956 she had covid-19 during this :(
He has always been a big fan of Mamamoo. Makes sense he would want a group that could be the next vocal, performance enjoying group!
Why is no one talking about BAE, she ate her parts! She sounds soooo goodd!
She was in her element.
Yeah bae was amazing but everyone is just obsessed with lily and they'll get over her one day like yes I love lily but lily isn't nmixx she would not be anything without nmixx maybe debuted solo if they want to give all the parts
@@calebcupido3389 heyy everyone got kinda fair distribution and as you can see lily is not the only person in this comment section who has been praised.. like everyone is being praised so there is no need to attack lily biased people like this...lily has been in the limelight for a really long time and most of the pepole are familiar to lilly the most that's it that doesn't mean that lily is overshadowing their group..i mean let's just give them some more time after all it hasn't been that long since they debut
Bae suits jisoo's line cause they have good deep voice.
@@calebcupido3389 Maybe it would be better if you stop slandering the main vocalist of the group and start praising your biases? In the comments under this video almost no one even talks about Lily, most talk about the group in general or Sullyoon and Jiwoo.
0:41 *This is the actual 6 member NMIXX right now.*
(Jinni was covid here but *sadly* she left the group and the company today.)
(You can still hear her voices at 1:12 and 2:11)
True
jinni :c
At 2:11 I was so confused on who was singing bcoz I could tell it was Jinni but I couldn’t see her that’s why…. We miss you Jinni🤍
dang and here i was believing it really was live...
@@plumofgreatrighteousness It is certainly live performance only Jinni's parts are pre recorded.
진짜 주기적으로 꼭 들어줘야하는 라이브.. 매일 찾아와요.. 자꾸 멤돌아서
I LOVE Sullyoon’s vocals. They’re so soft, but so strong and stable. She’s so talented !!
YES 100% AGREE
Her voice is emotional and soulful, amazing singer
Which sullyoon?
@@vionanoother1067 the girl who sang “da da da” and was in the center for the finger move
@@vionanoother1067 1:01 that’s sullyoon
Hello? Sullyoon ate that part. Their vocals is insane.
Agree, visual and talent unlike Tzuyu and Jisoo.
@@nightfuchsia Let’s not bring any idols down they are all talented
@@nightfuchsia why do people bring other groups into the conversation, just say Sullyoon's great that's it, people are so addicted to this mindset of their bias being "better" than other groups it's honestly stupid
@@nightfuchsia stop bringing others up.
@@nightfuchsia tf?!
Sullyoon and Lily's voices are so soothing and beautiful
목소리도 7인7색 근데 다들 너무 좋은게 감동 그 자체
신인상은 안 받아도 내년엔 더 높은 곳에 있을 아이들
I honestly didn't imagine that it would be delivered like this. I mean this is really beyond my expectations. How come you've only debuted for 1 month, and you've made repeated attacks on us. It's crazy that your skills are really above the average of most rookies. with abilities like this I don't know what you will be like in 3 4 years in the future. I honestly can't wait for your comeback.
They are the VOCAL QUEENS of 4TH GEN. Not even a single girl group comes close!
@@user-qs1ip7dd8e mention groups for example. 👍🏻
@@user-qs1ip7dd8e yes they're the best among the 4th gen girl groups and I say that as a girl group stan even with Haewon(NMIXX Leader) alone they can contest for the top spot but you add Lily to the team and it's just an overkill at that point.
JYP has no choice but to show everything because their debut song was not everyone's cup of tea. They would never let these girls go flop and what everyone's saying when their song didn't chart well... but them showing how good they are doesn't make other rookies less talented. A lot of rookies from IVE to Kep1er, everyone is just too talented. I hope NMIXX comes back with a more pleasing song.
@@user-qs1ip7dd8e I honestly like Twice's like ooh ahh and I also like and still listen to miss a and itzy's debut song but nmixx's is just really disappointing... i get that these girls are too talented, no arguments on that tbh, it's really just about the song
Why ain’t anyone talking about Jiwoo?!? She totally rocked today and definitely caught my eye the most!
Yes I like her voice
I agree. She’s good
진짜 이그룹은 멤버한명마다 다 완벽함 노래도 잘하고 춤도잘춤..그니까 제이와이피 엔믹스 더 밀어줘야됌 실력적으로는 엔믹스가 탑급임
이게 데뷔하자마자 불렀다는 게 믿기지 않는다. 앞으로 얼마나 더 잘할지..
JIWOO! I know not a lot of people don't talk about her, but I love how she has a lot of parts to shine, here!! Her voice is so cool, I love her rap
Ikr im in love with her
I love her voice!
she's my bias she's so cute and talented and funny
I agree
For me it's so intriguing how her voice might sound nasal but I think it's not.
i’ve never heard a rookie with such good vocals tackling this type of song?? i’m so impressed and idek
Purple Kiss from RBW, powerful vocals
Because you guys hate to give treasure a chance lol, you should check treasure and even their rappers can sing well!
@@yangamsonam bruh 💀💀💀
@@yangamsonam tanga
@@yangamsonam THIS IS ABT NMIXX, OH GOSH !_(($8$3
Thank you for covering blackpink "kill this love" as a solid blink, I am very satisfied with your cover
just a reminder, this is the MOST MONTEROUS ROOKIE GROUP LIKE EEVVVVVEERRRRR
Dangggg this girl group setting a high standard for vocals and visuals!
JIWOO’S VOICE ?!? Ain’t lying when she say she’s NMIXX’s unique and powerful vocal!
Ikr:))
Indeed! Even her Qualifying video is one of my faves!!
Her voice is amazing. She deserves all the praise
My favorite unique voice
ACE for sure;
Le SserafimとILLITを聞いて戻ってくると本当に耳が浄化される心地がする
Я искала этот комментарий )
SAME HERE
I'm in ㅋㅋ
also you should listen to babymonster
@@Pink_Serenade
2,3日前に知って聞いてみたよ
みんなすごいし中でもアヒョンすごいね
NMIXXと並んで好感持ってる
QUEENS OF VOCALS
I'm telling y'all Sullyoon is not just a visual and in this video she proved it. Gurl be slaying her parts.
the harmonies from 1:13 give me chills every time so beautiful
those are lily and who???
@@luisssfer and Jinni
yeah me too! lily and jinni sounds soo good together 🔥💕
@@haespa2767 But Jinni wasn’t there
@@tinyinnieee9648 they recorded her voice
이게 진짜 가수지
립싱크 안하고 삑사리가 나든 라이브를 하고 실력으로 우리는 가수라고 증명하는 이게 가수지
N-mixx is too underrated srsly theyre hella talented tho!
this is probably the best cover I've ever seen of Blackpink, the girls just put something that is their essence, the song sounds so good
Definitely. As a blink, most of the blackpink covers aren’t really “good” personally but NMIXX and Pentagon really made it their style, which is what made their covers justice to the song
@@milkyuuu6170 I was going to add Pentagon! But then I finished reading your comment lol
@@milkyuuu6170 i liked the boyz cover too
Pentagon's LSG is untouchable 🤪
And gaho!!!
Sullyoon really never failed to amaze me with her vocals. She nailed this fr fr.
みんな歌唱力がすごい。
アレンジもかっこいいし、歌いきってるところが👏👏👏
이건 아무리 들어도 안질린다.. 1년 반이 다 지났지만..ㅠㅠ 배진솔 보컬 지린다 진짜..
진솔이도 대박이지만 진짜 대박인건 진솔이가 엔믹스 중 6번째 보컬이라는거임...! 4세대 보컬 1, 2위인 릴리랑 해원이는 말 할 것두 없구 멤버 전원이 진솔이급, 그 이상급 보컬이라는게 진짜 넘사
The VOCAL LINE of this group is incredibly strong!!! You cannot say there are only 2-3 of them that are good at singing because 7 of them can slay a live performance and make it look easy to do. Even the dance line can be a main vocalist if they debuted in other group. With all these skills and talent that NMIXX has been showing us, we better give them the recognition they deserve on their first comeback! They give us justice on this cover. Good job SLAYMIXX!
Yassss
Nmixx deserves better!! Slaymixx
When Lily said 'NMIXX will slay this year', she is not lying.
@Brandon Sanchez no, it's AESPA
@@zkdln364 thanks for watching 😉
This was so perfect, they put their own spin on it and their vocals are like always on another level. This group is so talented but I personally loved Sullyoon's voice, her voice is so angelic
part so what so what is my fav
Her* the he pronounce is for men
I love the way they are so confident and passionate to show everything they got just solely through their voices. Especially nowadays when people getting more and more obsessed with cool outfits, badass beat drop, expensive and shocking MVs.... we need this to remember back how much a good singing voice can mean.
No, their cover is definitely insulting this legendary song
@@junerubyjane6159 uhm? HAHAHAHAHAHA
Just watching this again after hearing that Jinni left... and realizing that this is how we will see Nmixx in the near future... no Jinni :(
idk how im gonna get used to it.. something is missing nmixx is 7 and will always be 😭💗
wow sullyoon and lily's voices are so pleasing to listen to
THIS IS THE BEST COVER I'VE EVER HEARD!! NMIXX'S VOCAL SERIOUSLY IS NO JOKE!
Sullyoon may be considered a visual to most people, but her vocals took my breath away. The way she sang the pre-chorus was ANGELIC
Witch one is that?
@@therapy454 1:35
@@therapy454 0:59
@@venisya3345 it's Kyunjin
LITERALLY I WAS SHOOKED BCS I DIDNT KNOW SHE COULD SING LIKE THAT
진짜 소름돋으면서 들었다,,, 너무 잘한다,,,,,
이렇게 잘하는데 왜 빵 뜨질 못하는지....참...아이러니야....노래 잘해 춤잘춰 소속사도 JYP고....부디 조만간 더 많이 사랑많고 더 많은 무대에 서서 자기들이 하고 싶은 음악하는 날이 오길...
그룹 컨셉에 잡혀서는 노래가 그냥 그럼...
솔까 나쁘지 않다지 대쉬랑 럽미 라잌디스도 다른 소속사 가수들 보면 아쉬움
제발 노래 좀 기깔나게 받아줬으면
Jiwoo's voice is so captivating like bruh she killed this cover.
Didn’t expect her to start the song, Jiwoo literally killed it 🤯🤯🤯
She killed and shined here so much! I hope their comeback song is vocally heavy and not to focused on rap. These girls CAN SING and they do it LIVE
Frr
fr
YEAA
This gave me so many chills. Their vocals are absolutely insane. Nmixx for sure are going somewhere.
No entendi
Same
이걸 직빵으로 들었을 음향 감독님 진짜 개부러움...이렇게 들어도 잘하는데 직관으로 들으면 얼마나 잘부르겠냐고...
The best cover in kpop
They literally just debuted but are so comfortable and natural like they've been here for years. 4th gen IT group i see.
Sullyoon’s vocals are no joke. She’s not just a pretty face. She has a beautiful voice as well as a great personality.
U got any idea why is jinni not here??
@@vaishavisharma2257 not sure but I think she has covid:(
@@vaishavisharma2257 she was quarantined that time but she’s fine now
I'm shock too. I not addicted to visual really. I'm listen to the vocsl
She was the vocalist of a band before becoming a trainee.
애들이 재능도 재능이지만 보컬 라이브 실력이 뛰어난것도
노래 부르는걸 엄청 좋아하고 즐기기때문인듯.
노래부를때 엄청 행복해하는게 느껴짐.
연습도 많이해서 노래부르기 싫을법도한데 브이라이브나 다른 상황에서도 언제나 노래부르면서 좋아하는게 참 이쁘고 멋짐.
엔믹스 내년에는 더 건강하고 더 잘될거야 파이팅~!
I got goosebumps while listening to this. Wow. This is talent.
I personally think Jiwoo and Bae’s voices fit the color of the song the best, and Sullyoon managed to make the song her own. But, they all did amazing. Their vocals are just 🔥🔥🔥
How smoothly they just changed the whole vibe of this song....JUST HOW!!!!
They added the bridge part’s vibe into the whole song and it was WHAT I WANTED!
frr
The nmixx-ified the song, and I love the new vibe so much.
"Next time with "JINNIE", the 7 of us will perform together"
That's hurt knowing JINNIE wouldn't be able to perform w/ them anymore😭
Nmixx is so talented they just changed the rythm in a very addictive way❤️
This arrangement was actually pretty good, really matched their vocals. Just unfortunate Jinni wasn't there. But Sullyoon's vocals though, so heavenly.
where is Jinni?
@@KINAN7o0 if im not wrong, when they were filming this she was still under quarantine because she got covid
Jinni Cover rap part of Jennie on the second verse and the harmonies with Lily on the first verse
Jinni is definitely proud of her roommate :)
Why is this group so TALENTED?! I mean JYP always one-up themselves but NMIXX are just full of surprises that you don't usually get in kpop.
아이돌 걸그룹..전멤버가 보컬 지금까지 볼수 없던 조합 ㄷㄷ
They are the strongest vocalists in 4th gen!!! I really like how they make this song from girl crush to R&B❤❤❤ Hope JYP can give them better resources!!!!
This is the first time a group is praising for their vocal after performing blackpink song
NMIXX is literally an ace group their vocals are too good, They made this song sound more elegant in a way
Right. Compare to Twice.
@@nightfuchsia i feel embarrassing to you .....as a MY please 😟
STAN AESPA you are just bringing every group down in the comments, leave
@@nightfuchsia you're embarrassing
@@nightfuchsia can you not?
this is the only KTL cover I like and listen to over and over again. It was wonderful!
I'm a blink and I think that this is a masterpiece ❤❤ Good job Nmixx 👍 I love you ❤❤
WTF! THESE GIRLS' TALENT IS OUT OF THIS WORLD! NMIXX is coming for us indeed.
G DRAGON
KING G DRAGON
@@himaririku9254fix ur brain 1st
@@himaririku9254 yasss! Stan a problematic King!!
True
fr. i don't even know who to stan. just going to stan them all. they're all brimming with such equal talents. it's insane. jyp, please cherish this gem of a group.
This was INSANE. Their vocals are next level, it’s unbelievable how talented these girls are. It’s sad Jinni wasn’t there but I hope we’ll get to see more of her vocal talent in the future too! 💗💗
Hey Btw where was Jinni?
@@cad0153 She was quarantined that time because of covid
@@lysergdiethel2813 Oh, poor Jinni, hope she'll be better soon
1:14 with Lily and 2:11 rap part, those are JINNI’s voice prerecorded. 😁
@@twiceinla9130 Oh Thank you! ♡
I'm just surprised to see that,,,how they made this powerful song into soft version..... really unbelievable 💕💕
DEFINIETLY THE GOAT OF GIRLGROUP IN GEN 4.
y'all should stan nmixx, their vocal and dance skills will never disappoints you
only their debut song was disappointing cause they weren’t able to really showcase their vocals🤧
they are busy stanning Enhypen
they are busy stanning Enhypen
@@AJ-li6dq so.....?
They didn't just sing the song, they made sang it with their own essence
Despues de mucho tiempo que escuchaba esta versión de Nmixx y la verdad que nuevamente quedé con la boca abierta 😮 .....atreverse a hacer una cancion de BP y que les haya salido con su propio estilo tan pero tan bien es espectacular!!!! 🤗😍🥰
They sing it so naturally with their style, I’m impressed with their vocals ngl, they deserve more famous. - love from blink
They are insane. Literally an entire group of all rounders. They are all visuals, they can all sing, and dance. I’m pretty sure they can all rap too like are they even human 😭
If they were all Visual how is that lili girl got a Pinocchio nose job
@@sofypi7493 stay mad lmao
@@sofypi7493 stay mad❤️
Lily never disappoints with her vocal skills! She slayed those harmonizations!
@@medic3.074 girl stop being toxic
@@medic3.074 dog behavior 😬
@@medic3.074 embarrassing both lily and rosé are great
@@medic3.074 on what?? being the worst singer?
4세대 걸그룹 원탑...
I keep coming back to this performance every day. It’s so freaking amazing.
OMG JIWOO'S FIRST LINE SHOCKED ME TO DEATH. THEIR VOCALS ARE INSANE. LET'S GO NMIXX!!!
queen jiwoo
❤
Who is she?
@@prabjotkaur3872 The first girl to sing
I swear, this is the best "IT'S LIVE" performance I've ever seen so far. That beautiful vocal harmonization. Too bad Jinni wasn't there.
The first chorus just sent me to a different dimension
I think she got to sing a line in here. 2:11 ~ 2:18
Why is she not there?
@@user-ck6if5hg9n they probably recorded this during promotion of O.O. at that time Jinni was suffered from covid. but, I don't know, I'm just guessing
@@lordhaewon yeah. Jinni got + covid at that time so she can't join them. But i think they recorded the lines of jenni.
I love how they made the song theirs 🥺.
It's sounds totally different from BlackPink's but yet, it's as good as Blackpink's version.
초반부부터 소름 쫙돋네;;
Can I say that Jiwoo gets all of my attention? Her voice, her facial expression, everything about her ... Wow
Yea that’s why she’s my biased thx for praising her
Not a jiwoo bias, but daaaamn she served!
Edit: she's 3rd on my list now, thanks to this cover
Yes, better than Jisoo. Lmao. She ruined their own song.
She can do everything
Nmixx's Adlibs, highnotes, rap skills, charisma and voice technique, all rounders... JYP got another jackpot!
Yes, BLACKPINK should feel embarrass now coz rookie ate their own song. If I were them I will disband now coz someone already dethroned them.
@@nightfuchsia what the f are u talking about😭
@@nightfuchsia fake my lol i know u
STAN AESPA ..You stan aespa
@@nightfuchsia you stan a group that are BLACKPINK wannabes! NMIXX and real Nswers will never disrespect BP 😏
이애들은 4세대 탑될거같다
Itzy varken mi??😂
This is what you call great vocals guys. Stan NMIXX = Stan talent
So many groups had cover Blackpink songs but this is the best one I've heard all day
This group is full of talent
I'm convinced JYPE got their most talented female trainees and put them in one group.
💯
@TacoBelle Unfortunately, it does not always go like that.☹️
I think the right way to say it is jype got their most vocally talented female trainees and put them together.
jyp himself picked the seven members to put in one group. that tells a lot about their talent.
@@sincerelysof Why ? tbh all of their groups don't really have any BAD PERFORMER or something...
빠지는 애가 하나없다 다들 너무잘해 역시 제왑피
누워서 보다가 벌떡일어나 자리고쳐 앉았습니다.
Sullyoon's voice is angelic. It was like I was in heaven.
No way I literally commented this exact sentence HAHA
Fr
Kyujin, Bae and Jiwoo are incredible considering that singing in deep voice is way more DIFFICULT than singing in high tone
JIWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
hmm not really ? It depends on people and their type of voice, singing low is way easier than singing high for me as well
@@peepo1416 same
not true😭that depends on ur voice type but usually for people its easier singing lower notes
@@angelizespino6776 true,,,
Wow!!! I've only been listening to k-pop for a few months and i was under the impression that none of the groups could sing in harmony. I stand corrected! Amazing cover of this song! 🙌🙌🙌
I know right! Discovered NMIXX myself recently too :D If you're curious, another very talented group is MAMAMOO, the since disbanded SPICA are excellent as well