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The Mudbrooker's Guide to Cast Iron: Unknown Iron
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- čas přidán 3. 11. 2019
- Some iron stubbornly resists being identified, that doesn't make it bad, it just makes it mysterious.
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I think this is the best demonstration and information sharing I've come across. Incorporating actual science into explanations was really helpful in my understanding.
Subscribed, I have no Idea how but you've combined shop skills teaching with cooking with on the farm knowledge and nailed three of my demographics right on the head. Super knowledge!
Awesome ! All of my skillets are Southern Mystery Skillets ❤❤❤
I have a couple of mystery ones and I love having them. I feel special to have something so old. 😊
I love this channel, I learn something every time.
I try to share what I've learned. :)
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That no 8 near the end of the video with the 3 dots is probably Favorite Piqua. , the rounded outside heat ring is typical of Piqua. I have a similar one that has a identifiable favorite ghost mark. Could possible be a copy using a favorite as a pattern though.
Thank you. I didn't know any of this information. I just know how to cook in them.
You learn things playing around with old iron.
I was fortunate to buy a #9 skillet last week that is just like your #8. It marked with a 9 on the back of the handle. Really nice skillet with relatively thin walls and big pour spouts. I am sure someone out there knows where and by whom these skillets were made. Thanks for the video.
Cool! If I find out more about it I'll do a little update.
Excellent and informative video. Thanks for sharing.
Your welcome.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
You're welcome.
Great vid.i recently picked one up at an antique store and restored it exactly like the last one you showed.mine is a #9 with 6 recessed dots and it has imperfect casting on the outside but beautiful casting job on the inside but like I said it's crude on the outside.i don't know why but it's one of my favorite everyday users and performs really nice. I'm guessing date range might be 1900-1910 but there's no way I'll ever know lol.
Sometimes the best you can do is narrow down a date range for a pan without ever knowing who made it.
I’m not a seller of pans. I’m a collector. I have around 100 different pieces of cast iron. I give some away, but I have many everyday users. I think your last mystery pan is a Wapak. Not sure, but that’s my feeling. I have a couple gate marked skillets and a gate marked Dutch oven that I will never find the maker
Could be, but the rim of the pan has a flared edge where most Wapaks don't. Some Wapaks do have that style of handle though so it's hard to tell what to make of it.
I have one that was purchased in deep Southern Illinois, has a recessed 5 on the handle, no heat ring, large pour spouts, the ridge under the handle is a flatter one and flattens out at the pan, the sides are not uniform in thickness but it is on the thinner side, silky smooth inside bottom.... no jokes, the bottom of pan indicates a form that was not uniform... possible sand shift?, and there are some vertical marks along outside of lip which appear to be belt sanding or something.
Yes, the vertical marks on the rim are grinding marks. Before about 1880 skillets were poured with the opening to the mold, called a gate, on the bottom of the pan. The excess iron was snapped off leaving a long, raised scar, called a gatemark, on the bottom of the pan. The drawback was only one mold could be filled at a time. After 1880 most pans were poured with the pans facing upwards and the gates on the rim. This allowed several molds to be connected together with runners and a bunch of pans could be made in a single pour. When cooled the excess would be ground off. Although the exact positions varied, there's usually a large gate near the handle and usually, but not always, a smaller gate on the opposite side for a vent to allow air to escape as the iron flowed in.
I have one I'm being told is an old unmarked Griswold. has "756" on bottom and a 9 in cursive writing. From what I'm seeing it might be from around 1900 timeframe.
Yes, it is an unmarked Griswold. That's the correct pattern number for an unmarked number 9
interesting.
i had never given the 'mystery pans' much thought. next time i see old iron at actions i'll keep this in mind, hopefully.
thanks for bring this to my attention.
i would imagine every foundry casting ranges also cast all sorts of accessories.
and, as you say, any good blacksmith could smelt iron or re-cast iron, why not cast a skillet?
Exactly, the hard part of casting is making patterns, if you have a foundry with a pattern making shop, why not make as much use of it as possible and if you can get a pattern why not make some extra money doing casting.
Could the last pan be a BSR red mountain series. I read one webpage that said they sometimes used dots at 6o’clock to the size number. The teardrop handle looks promising for it.
I have a pan with raised number 6, and an incised "P" below it. It may be a SMS. No mark at the bottom, just an unbroken heat ring. Big pour spouts. I made a video of it in my channel.
So, the other day after watching one of your shows, I noticed your always pulling out the clarified butter, out of what look like a home jar (old Jelly jar). I could be wrong but do you make your own clarified butter and if so, would love to see a video about that.
Yes, I do clarify my own butter and yes I'll be doing a video on it soon.
I don't have a clue...but I can say It's Cast Iron...lol...but the three dot was awesome...and I think it was a vintage personal markings Like Lodge Folks to mark their pans to show I made this to get paid... This was a very awesome video...
That seems likely, a lot of pans from around 1890-1920 had pattern maker's marks on them. Some Wagners have dots on them, I think those might have been to keep track of how many times a pattern had been reworked.
If you lived in louisville, KY. and where going iron hunting at the US 127 yard sale in August would u go north or south.
Are there any other size SMS's other than 7 and 8's? Those are the only sizes I have seen here in Kentucky.
As far as I know, that's it. Since they seem to have stuck with just the most common size it might be possible there are some #3's out there, but I haven't heard of any.
I found a 15" skillet. No markings on it that I have found. It has 2 wide pour spouts. It has a tab on top with a small round hanging hole. Any ideas as to who made this style?
Have you ever seen concentric ridge circles on the bottom of a pan? I found a large unmarked pan with an elegant bowed handle and a hanging lip but no markings.
Yes, Those are imported pans from China. That type of bottom was used for several different brand names, Benjamin and Medwin was one, and some were unbranded. They were mostly sold at discount stores like Target and Walmart. They're good pans and inexpensive.
Very interesting.
Thank you.
I've got a jp skillet can't find enformàtion on it best skillet I have do you have knowledge of it
I have a niederbronn oval roaster with lid I would like to know were it come from and value
These pans are probably Northern mystery skillets.
I have 2 skillets. A 7 & 9. Number is stamped inside a diamond with an A-to the right. That’s the only marking on bottom in line with the handle. They do have a heat ring. Any idea who made it?
Those were made by Chicago Hardware Foundry some time between 1900 or so to 1935.
Do you sell also? I'd like a 12 in. Wagner,marked or not marked please
I think you should be narrating nature shows on pbs!
SMS are usually so nice!
Depends on who made it, looks like the pattern used for this one was pretty worn.
damn....those are still some good lookin pans!
Yeah, any of them is worth having, regardless of who made them.
Hi, what do I do if my Wagner Ware is warped? Is that a problem?
There's nothing that can be done to unwarp a pan, but unless it's warped to the point where it looks like a salad bowl it isn't much of a problem for most stoves. The only time it makes a difference is on a glass top stove because the parts that aren't touching the cook surface won't heat as fast as the ones that are.
I'm having trouble lifting my big cast iron pans. :(
That's a shame, maybe you can borrow a Hoyer lift from work. :)
Then get some small cast iron pans😃
Mud, you sound like your pneumonia is back! Please get checked, I still have mine from friggin September... just a note of concern because you sound out of breath. 😊
Nothing as bad as all that, just getting over an exceptionally unpleasant cold.
Wapak...... lots of flaws, lots of ghost and grinder marks. Copied Griswold and Wagner ware. The "cheap Chinese hand bags" of cast iron.