What's your favorite out of the 12 of them? Mine is the 2nd and 8th😆 Anyways, I wanted to ask: Do you think the pianist who played this used the fingering suggested for the right hand in the 8th etude? (42414241 & 323132313231) Do you think it's better to use that fingering or what would you say?🧐
Thanks for posting these! Given how highly regarded Thalberg was as a virtuoso in his day I've often wondered what his original music sounded like, since most of his compositions seem to be more along the lines of opera transcriptions/fantasies. At least that's what I've mainly seen posted to CZcams. I can't say I was especially taken by most of them, but was cool to see several showing off the three handed effect he was famous for. And I thought #12 in F Major was very musically effective; definitely my favorite of the set.
I believe most of the money was made in opera, or anything that revolved around opera, back in those times, which explains why his fame seemed to stem mostly from his operatic paraphrases.
Liszt and Thalberg were friendly in the 1830's despite their fictitious "rivalry"; Liszt said something like "I especially admire velvet paws like his". Thalberg must have been an odd duck though -- all he wanted was to be part of the piano department at the Paris conservatory -- Lord knows he was one of the best pianists ever -- but somehow he alienated the entire faculty and was repeatedly rejected. French antisemitism perhaps. He died alone and obscure -- poor guy. BTW, his technique was so good that he could sail through works like his Op.26 all day well into his 70's -- and he never got tendonitis!
Liszt was envious of Thalberg's success, whereas Thalberg seems to have been more gracious. I believe the "velvet paw" remark was issued regarding Henselt. Thalberg was an incredibly successful pianist who was widely admired as an artist, and man. I think you're thinking of Alkan's social problems. Thalberg died rich and content at 59.
Was this written by chatgpt? Because nothing here is correct, the velvet pawns and the social issues are attributes of henselt not thalberg. Also the guy who was not given that position in the music school was Alkan, what is funny is that they gave his student the position lol, also Thalberg was the most successful pianist of his time, even more financially successful than Liszt, he was not an unknown guy, and died a millionaire by todays standards and was barrried with alot of expensive things that recently a group of people opened his grave and stole some expensive stuff from there.
@@prammar1951 while I agree that the number of near misses this person made is nothing short of miraculous, I also think we can correct them in a gentle manner.
Some nice moments in 1, 6, and 7, but don't these feel a bit lacking and/or basic compared to Chopin's op 10/25 and Liszt's TE? From Thalberg's reputation at the time, I expected more tbh.
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I’m so glad someone finally made this, I play number 4 and they needed to be all together somewhere.
You're the first person on youtube to finally upload a video of all etudes performed by a real person!
I was waiting for this day to come - thank you
What's your favorite out of the 12 of them? Mine is the 2nd and 8th😆
Anyways, I wanted to ask:
Do you think the pianist who played this used the fingering suggested for the right hand in the 8th etude? (42414241 & 323132313231)
Do you think it's better to use that fingering or what would you say?🧐
@@Yatagarasu.Have no clue why the fingering is like that - I would just use 1-3-1-3-1-3 😆
My favorite etudes are no.4 and no.12
@@JamesBower-yj6ew Haha yeah, odd fingering.😆
Thanks for posting these! Given how highly regarded Thalberg was as a virtuoso in his day I've often wondered what his original music sounded like, since most of his compositions seem to be more along the lines of opera transcriptions/fantasies. At least that's what I've mainly seen posted to CZcams.
I can't say I was especially taken by most of them, but was cool to see several showing off the three handed effect he was famous for. And I thought #12 in F Major was very musically effective; definitely my favorite of the set.
I believe most of the money was made in opera, or anything that revolved around opera, back in those times, which explains why his fame seemed to stem mostly from his operatic paraphrases.
Many of them exquisitely sublime. All intelligent and ingenious. The B Major is particularly great. Thanks!
Thanks for uploading this collection. Some of them resemble Henselt's set of etudes.
Thanks, very interesting piece. I ❤ this wonderful channel. 🎉🎉
I love them all❤
Отлично! Лучше чем у Листа!!! Не какого сарказма!!! Хранит в себе тот завидующий, редкий Метаромантизм-чтобы летал как птица
Lovely to play along and sight read on my piano thanks
Gostei dessas peças!
Muito boas mesmo
Отличные этюды, прекрасное исполнение.
Interesting selections as always. Nice work!
thanks so much love etudes!!!
Liszt and Thalberg were friendly in the 1830's despite their fictitious "rivalry"; Liszt said something like "I especially admire velvet paws like his". Thalberg must have been an odd duck though -- all he wanted was to be part of the piano department at the Paris conservatory -- Lord knows he was one of the best pianists ever -- but somehow he alienated the entire faculty and was repeatedly rejected. French antisemitism perhaps. He died alone and obscure -- poor guy. BTW, his technique was so good that he could sail through works like his Op.26 all day well into his 70's -- and he never got tendonitis!
Liszt was envious of Thalberg's success, whereas Thalberg seems to have been more gracious. I believe the "velvet paw" remark was issued regarding Henselt.
Thalberg was an incredibly successful pianist who was widely admired as an artist, and man. I think you're thinking of Alkan's social problems. Thalberg died rich and content at 59.
Was this written by chatgpt? Because nothing here is correct, the velvet pawns and the social issues are attributes of henselt not thalberg. Also the guy who was not given that position in the music school was Alkan, what is funny is that they gave his student the position lol, also Thalberg was the most successful pianist of his time, even more financially successful than Liszt, he was not an unknown guy, and died a millionaire by todays standards and was barrried with alot of expensive things that recently a group of people opened his grave and stole some expensive stuff from there.
@@prammar1951 while I agree that the number of near misses this person made is nothing short of miraculous, I also think we can correct them in a gentle manner.
Some nice moments in 1, 6, and 7, but don't these feel a bit lacking and/or basic compared to Chopin's op 10/25 and Liszt's TE? From Thalberg's reputation at the time, I expected more tbh.
Thalberg's reputation, as far as I know, came mostly from his opera transcriptions.