Thank you Tom for this superb video 🙏 we are delighted to be among your 5 favorite options in terms of watch straps for this Pelagos 39 that we are particularly fond of ☺️
Agree on the sharpness of the stock clasp, it’s not talked about nearly as much as the lume issue but far more impactful - for me anyway. I have my p39 mostly on uncle straps’ jubilee - really gives a different look.
Lovely… I’ve been eyeing up a Pelagos for a while… this is pushing me closer! I thought it looked amazing on the aftermarket Titanium and the red Rubber.
This is the first video of yours that I have seen and I’m impressed with it all. Slick visuals, clever editing, clear and concise opinions and seemingly unbiased. I’m sure Adrian will have laughed at the ‘low stock’ comment of his enamel mugs, very funny. For my P39 I think my Erika’s Original MN with black clasp is a winner, but you have given me food for thought, thank you!
Thank you sir. I had Adrian his blessing for the cheeky stab tho. I never want to kick ppl in the legs either. And unbiased is easier when it’s your own watch I guess. But always with respect towards the brand. It’s always someone’s baby
Jeez what a faff, I never noticed nor cared about any of these issues, bought the watch a year ago, stuck it on my wrist and there it has remained since, honestly don’t think I’ve removed it more than 3 or four times to reset the time and that’s it. ❤
Youre right the OEM rubber was a letdown. It was not so soft and highly frictional and the tudor hands on the inside are nonsensical. Altho I still prefer the endlink look to the Zealande style. I think it suits the look of the watch better.
Great vid Tom. The 54 has one of the best clasps. Interesting Tudor chose a longer option for this watch. Maybe there will be improvements down the track.
I think it's longer because of the dive extension, which I would guess is not a feature that gets used a whole lot but needs to be there for it to be a "real" dive watch. (On my wrist it's also not a problem -- have never scratched myself. Also it's pretty similar to the current Submariner clasp, FWIW)@@BowlOfSalmon
Yes! Finally someone who doesn't knobride Tudor and actually states things the way they are. I experienced two separate P39's and both were littered with various defects, like poor tolerances, dusty dials, uneven lume, gritty crown threads and easily the most rattly bracelet I've felt in any watch, noticeably worse than my cheap and cheerful Chinese homage watches. I'd say if on a scale of 1-10 I'd have to place Tudor in terms of QC for the Pelagos 39, it would be a 5/10 at most. That's way too much money for a watch full of flaws.
Well I’m still trying to be respectful because my bb58 was flawless and my fxd is too. And I still really like this watch. A brand stands out with the aftercare … so … let’s see what happens
My favorite straps lately have been Nick Mankey hook straps. They are elastic straps like Erika’s, but with no material under the watch head and no folds showing when looking at the watch. They are the most comfortable strap I own, only cost $40 and come in a bunch of colors (even a few in 21mm). The only downside is there is a 12 week wait with how back ordered he is
@@BowlOfSalmon Yes, it would. He sells an FXD version. I've yet to submit an order because he hasn't replied to any of my inquiries, it's quite expensive, and theres generally a 12 week minimum wait. I'm on the fence on whether it's worth the cost and time.
I also found the clasp on the P42 sharper than I liked so I rounded the edges with a file. It's perfect now! Currently enjoying it on the US Jubilee bracelet. My only complaint with the US Jubilee bracelet is that there are too many fixed links on each side. I'm waiting for the Zuludiver Octo system to try with my FXD. I can't wait! I have high hopes! My biggest complaint with traditional Nato's is finding a good fit as I'm generally between sizes. It's either too loose or too tight due to the distance between the holes. Thanks for sharing your review!
Not sure if anyone else has already mentioned it but the reason the hands do not light up and hold the lume as long as the indices is because the indices are monoblock pieces of lume where the hands are not and as such less amount of lume to stay bright for as long. The hands have a border around them and if you look at the FXD the indices also have a border around them and as such the lime is more uniform
Excellent review thanks. The hands lume would annoy me too, enough to ask for a warranty claim. Even so, the watch colour looks a lot more black and white in your video which is great, i didn't notice the dial sunburst at all.
thanks for checking in. the lume continues to remain an annoyance .. even with the hands replaced. the dial sunburst only reveals itself occasionally .. everything is enough to be interesting
@BowlOfSalmon the new BB58 GMT doesn't do it for me and I like having a date too. So a Pelegos 39 with that GMT movement, in black again, would be the perfect holiday watch for me. Would buy it in an instant.
Definitely recommend you checking out the original Tropic Rubber straps. They unfortunately don't have a 21mm so you have to stick with a 20mm. I picked it up 2 weeks ago and can tell you it's been ridiculously comfortable. Got the gray color and it matches perfectly. Will do a review on it and definitely tag you!
I consider buying the pelagos because I like the Diao more than the bb58, BUT I have a round wrist, 17/17.5cm and my hand Space is only 4.5cm straight. The 21cm Lug width looks more masculine. I admit a blue pelagos39 could me make change my mind but at the moment i tend to Bud a blue bb58 and hope for some Updates. Thank you for talking about the clasp, beacjse many Reviews are hiding this.
I wish uncle made an adapter that let you get rid of the divers extension on the stock bracelet. I think that that would help get rid of some of that annoying gap on the outside.
Hiya fellow Belgian here:) started watching some of your vids so I figured I’d sub👊🏻 I’m saving for my first high end watch this year, January next year I’m breaking the piggybank😁 love this watch but I absolutely need a date, preferably a day as well since I work a weird shift-system:) I’m getting used to automatic watches with a Seiko 5 42,5mm diver but it’s too big for me:) but love the day-date on it, don’t know if I’ll be able to go without on my next. Tips?:)
I moved my Pelagos 39 (2023 model) on after a short time , the lume on the hands plain suked and was also badly applied and while I didnt think the clasp was sharp I agree on the other issues , the clasp hangs down on the edge and was just jangly. Shame as the watch looks really nice.
you need to shorten the 6 o'clock side one link, and it will fit much, much better. even if you have to add it to the 12 o'clock side, please try it because it will make a big difference on the way the watch and strap fit a smaller wrist
perfect would be boring too right. how weird that this sounds.. i really like mine too.. i've accepted these things and the strap changes made me embrace it
Nice review. Will look out for the clasp when trying watches. I wonder if Rolex models have the "sharp" feeling or just a new model Pelagos issue. My BB and Longines Pilot wears perfectly and comfortable never sell.
Hey your lume isn't a fault because it's a watch from the early production. It's a fault by Tudor in general on the Pelagos 39. I had three of them from different purchase times and all had this issue. My AD sent the last watch to Tudor to solve the problem, but after 4 weeks we get the answer that this is within the production tolerance... Yeah... I'm completely disappointed about the quality issues on the Pelagos 39 and sold them.
Interesting. I certainly don’t find my clasp sharp at all. Agree regarding the lume though. Also, the end link fit to the case is very poor. The end link has daylight between the edge of the case and the end link. Also the clasp length, I don’t get the issue. It’s shorter than a sub for example. I do have bigger wrists do not an issue for me personally.
@@BowlOfSalmon I think having a bigger wrist defiantly makes the issues go away. I would still prefer more micro adjust slots and no diver extension though.
Bro! The 39 has ceramic lumeblocks and inserts in bezel. The hands however does not, so it makes perfect sense that it’s not even, im not supporting it, cause tudor should be able to make a handset that is similar to the markers, dunno if its cause of the weight or slmething. When u compare it to the fxd u can see the outline of the hourmarkers so,its the same with the pelagos 42. I rlly want that handset TUDOR!
Watching the video it looks like your divers extension isn’t seating correctly. Mines done this for about a month after I got it until I figured how to wiggle it to lay flat. That sharp edge disappeared when I sorted it. Also I got mine about 6 months after release and the lume on the hands is still noticeable worse than the rest of the watch
yeah i know what you mean with the diver extension is flat .. it is indeed a weird way of having to manaouvre it at an angle to fit it under and make it click into place.... I'm just unfortunate the 12 o'clock part of the clasp sits where my wrist wraps ... and I usually have to extend the on the fly 2/5 ths for a perfect fit
Almost sold me on those artem straps. Super clean. Went to the site, $200+ for the fancy clasp. Worth it? Do they fit a small wrist (6”)? Thanks in advance. Putting on a pelagos LHD.
Did you hear anything from Tudor about the hand lume issues, I got my Pelagos fairly recently and the same issue persists…I’m doubting there will be any fixes from them at this point, perhaps the hands just can’t fill as much lume as there is less volume and therefore no solution exist.
The quality problems you mentioned are intentional. Tudor isn’t going to give you everything in one watch. This ensures dissatisfaction so you keep coming back to buy more watches. You need to buy from a better brand if you want total quality in a single watch
I’m not a flat Earther so I don’t believe in that theory. Agreed that with more expensive watches one would assume more quality. Not always the case. I know Tudor can get it right at this point too. Blackbay !
@@BowlOfSalmon It is a tool watch and should be used as such, I dropped my FXD on my bedside table and it dented it, the material is very soft, not like grade 5 used in Pammys
Honestly, quickly becoming my favourite watch channel, love it! Give us more Tom! 🤙🏻🧡
On it! Thanks Ryan
Thank you Tom for this superb video 🙏 we are delighted to be among your 5 favorite options in terms of watch straps for this Pelagos 39 that we are particularly fond of ☺️
Most welcome. This strap was one my companions this summer and I enjoyed it !
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Bloody hell Tom! Your level of production is so high! Really interesting content too. Already looking forward to your FXD video 😃
Thanks a ton mate. 🙏🙏
Agree on the sharpness of the stock clasp, it’s not talked about nearly as much as the lume issue but far more impactful - for me anyway. I have my p39 mostly on uncle straps’ jubilee - really gives a different look.
Yeah clasp is the real ‘pain’. I only tried that jubilee on my bb58 and i like it a lot. These bracelets are criminally underrated
No problems on the bracelet for me. Maybe you guys just wear your bracelets super tight. Mine is snug but not overly tight
@@khyoon14 it’s the outside that we’re referring to, not inside
The Unclestraps Jubilee Bracelet never left my P39 after installing it. Total game changer - looks amazing and wears super comfortable.
I agree compared with the og 😅
Lovely… I’ve been eyeing up a Pelagos for a while… this is pushing me closer! I thought it looked amazing on the aftermarket Titanium and the red Rubber.
Go for it! Glad to enable 😂
Your pairings directly convince me to get the watch and try, especially the Octopod and Uncle bracelet.
This came pretty close to being called an influencer 😂 thanks for watching and enjoy the watch
This is the first video of yours that I have seen and I’m impressed with it all. Slick visuals, clever editing, clear and concise opinions and seemingly unbiased. I’m sure Adrian will have laughed at the ‘low stock’ comment of his enamel mugs, very funny.
For my P39 I think my Erika’s Original MN with black clasp is a winner, but you have given me food for thought, thank you!
Thank you sir. I had Adrian his blessing for the cheeky stab tho. I never want to kick ppl in the legs either. And unbiased is easier when it’s your own watch I guess. But always with respect towards the brand. It’s always someone’s baby
@@BowlOfSalmon great response, well done to you Sir
Jeez what a faff, I never noticed nor cared about any of these issues, bought the watch a year ago, stuck it on my wrist and there it has remained since, honestly don’t think I’ve removed it more than 3 or four times to reset the time and that’s it. ❤
I still enjoy the watch too. Lume is specific to some early models
Youre right the OEM rubber was a letdown. It was not so soft and highly frictional and the tudor hands on the inside are nonsensical. Altho I still prefer the endlink look to the Zealande style. I think it suits the look of the watch better.
I don’t dislike the strap. Just less of a fan of the look with the endlinks. The pattern is there to improve airflow mostly.
Great vid Tom. The 54 has one of the best clasps. Interesting Tudor chose a longer option for this watch. Maybe there will be improvements down the track.
Fingers crossed! Ti is more difficult to machine. Maybe that is why .. I don’t know.
I think it's longer because of the dive extension, which I would guess is not a feature that gets used a whole lot but needs to be there for it to be a "real" dive watch. (On my wrist it's also not a problem -- have never scratched myself. Also it's pretty similar to the current Submariner clasp, FWIW)@@BowlOfSalmon
Thank you for this. I have it on just the rubber but love all your suggestions.
Glad it was helpful!
Yes! Finally someone who doesn't knobride Tudor and actually states things the way they are. I experienced two separate P39's and both were littered with various defects, like poor tolerances, dusty dials, uneven lume, gritty crown threads and easily the most rattly bracelet I've felt in any watch, noticeably worse than my cheap and cheerful Chinese homage watches. I'd say if on a scale of 1-10 I'd have to place Tudor in terms of QC for the Pelagos 39, it would be a 5/10 at most. That's way too much money for a watch full of flaws.
Well I’m still trying to be respectful because my bb58 was flawless and my fxd is too. And I still really like this watch. A brand stands out with the aftercare … so … let’s see what happens
Zero flaws on my pelagos 39. You got. Defective one.
My favorite straps lately have been Nick Mankey hook straps. They are elastic straps like Erika’s, but with no material under the watch head and no folds showing when looking at the watch. They are the most comfortable strap I own, only cost $40 and come in a bunch of colors (even a few in 21mm). The only downside is there is a 12 week wait with how back ordered he is
Been hearing that name a lot lately. Would they work on the fxd ?
@@BowlOfSalmon Yes, it would. He sells an FXD version. I've yet to submit an order because he hasn't replied to any of my inquiries, it's quite expensive, and theres generally a 12 week minimum wait. I'm on the fence on whether it's worth the cost and time.
I love my Nick Mankey strap. It’s the most comfortable one I have ever worn. Well worth the wait!
I also found the clasp on the P42 sharper than I liked so I rounded the edges with a file. It's perfect now!
Currently enjoying it on the US Jubilee bracelet. My only complaint with the US Jubilee bracelet is that there are too many fixed links on each side.
I'm waiting for the Zuludiver Octo system to try with my FXD. I can't wait! I have high hopes! My biggest complaint with traditional Nato's is finding a good fit as I'm generally between sizes. It's either too loose or too tight due to the distance between the holes.
Thanks for sharing your review!
Thanks for watching. You will enjoy the octopod on your fxd. Trust me on that 😉 (check my IG page if not already )
Subbed just for letting me know that there is an aftermarket titanium bracelet that fixes the clasp issue! Now I'm getting a P39 for sure.
thx mate !
Not sure if anyone else has already mentioned it but the reason the hands do not light up and hold the lume as long as the indices is because the indices are monoblock pieces of lume where the hands are not and as such less amount of lume to stay bright for as long. The hands have a border around them and if you look at the FXD the indices also have a border around them and as such the lime is more uniform
Noticed the diff between the p39
And fxd. But if we just compare hands .. the fxd shows they can do it …
Its funny...but i love the sharp edge of the emblem and the raised notch before it.
the shield logo on the clasp ?
I’m with you on the clasp, this watch does not need a dive extension, no one is going to put it over a wetsuit, this would allow a smaller clasp.
True.
Excellent review thanks. The hands lume would annoy me too, enough to ask for a warranty claim.
Even so, the watch colour looks a lot more black and white in your video which is great, i didn't notice the dial sunburst at all.
thanks for checking in. the lume continues to remain an annoyance .. even with the hands replaced. the dial sunburst only reveals itself occasionally .. everything is enough to be interesting
@BowlOfSalmon the new BB58 GMT doesn't do it for me and I like having a date too. So a Pelegos 39 with that GMT movement, in black again, would be the perfect holiday watch for me. Would buy it in an instant.
Definitely recommend you checking out the original Tropic Rubber straps. They unfortunately don't have a 21mm so you have to stick with a 20mm.
I picked it up 2 weeks ago and can tell you it's been ridiculously comfortable. Got the gray color and it matches perfectly.
Will do a review on it and definitely tag you!
I do have a bunch of those. 22mm with squeeze would be better but I'm not sure they even exist .. thanks for watching
@@BowlOfSalmon Saw that they have the 22mm as well now. Love the contents!
Man your videos are so damn good but you only have 6k subs? I hope you’ll get the recognition you deserve mate
That is the sad life of me I guess 🫣. Thanks man. One sub at a time.
I consider buying the pelagos because I like the Diao more than the bb58, BUT I have a round wrist, 17/17.5cm and my hand Space is only 4.5cm straight. The 21cm Lug width looks more masculine.
I admit a blue pelagos39 could me make change my mind but at the moment i tend to Bud a blue bb58 and hope for some Updates.
Thank you for talking about the clasp, beacjse many Reviews are hiding this.
So it didn’t make anything easier 😂. Let’s see what happens at w&w right !?
I wish uncle made an adapter that let you get rid of the divers extension on the stock bracelet. I think that that would help get rid of some of that annoying gap on the outside.
Tudor should just address this I guess.
great video, would love to have a youtube series teaching us how to take great watch photos as a hobby
That's a great idea! Maybe 🫣😅
love this strap and clasp.
This 5 ?
@@BowlOfSalmon the zuludriver, finally got a fast nato strap system
Nice video Tom, as always. The octothing looks nice. But I can’t afford one at the moment, I prefer to buy your mug :D
Got your priorities in order 👌
Very nice video my friend 👍👏👏😎 thanks for recommendations 🙏
Thanks you. Thanks for watching !
Hiya fellow Belgian here:) started watching some of your vids so I figured I’d sub👊🏻 I’m saving for my first high end watch this year, January next year I’m breaking the piggybank😁 love this watch but I absolutely need a date, preferably a day as well since I work a weird shift-system:) I’m getting used to automatic watches with a Seiko 5 42,5mm diver but it’s too big for me:) but love the day-date on it, don’t know if I’ll be able to go without on my next. Tips?:)
Well. The new seiko spb would be a step
Up there. More high end … hmm… the new tudor gmt perhaps ?
The mug plug was very Bark and Jack esc 😂
Of course it was ;)
I moved my Pelagos 39 (2023 model) on after a short time , the lume on the hands plain suked and was also badly applied and while I didnt think the clasp was sharp I agree on the other issues , the clasp hangs down on the edge and was just jangly. Shame as the watch looks really nice.
For the sound of jangly clasp I have some tape in between lately.
you need to shorten the 6 o'clock side one link, and it will fit much, much better. even if you have to add it to the 12 o'clock side, please try it because it will make a big difference on the way the watch and strap fit a smaller wrist
Yeah. I though the same while recording this but I can’t. I’m already Down to the last removable one.
As an owner of one, I think it's fair the FXD deserves to get a video on it's own. IMHO the FXD is way better and way cooler than 39.
it's inevitable... looks like the FXD has a second coming too.. loads popping up online recently
I’ve been pleased with my 39; it’s four months old. I wish it was a 41mm, but we can’t have that can we.
perfect would be boring too right. how weird that this sounds.. i really like mine too.. i've accepted these things and the strap changes made me embrace it
my FXD also has the handset lume issue. with the addition of a 2nd watch i'm sending it to RSC
oooh.... damn.. i wonder how they respond... is it a '23 ?
@@BowlOfSalmon 22. there's also a dull spot on the hour hand so🤷🏻♂️
No issues with mine and is also a 22.
4:31 is when he stops crying about lack of lume and gets to the point of the video- you're welcome.
you been a man and made it that far tho
Great video!
Thank you 🙏
Nice review. Will look out for the clasp when trying watches.
I wonder if Rolex models have the "sharp" feeling or just a new model Pelagos issue.
My BB and Longines Pilot wears perfectly and comfortable never sell.
Neah Rolex clasps are pretty darn good. I’m curious to try the titanium YM one
FXD for the win
I haven’t made up my mind yet
Imagine watch manufacturers selling bracelets that are razor sharp.
No more muggings. Phun intented
Hey your lume isn't a fault because it's a watch from the early production. It's a fault by Tudor in general on the Pelagos 39. I had three of them from different purchase times and all had this issue. My AD sent the last watch to Tudor to solve the problem, but after 4 weeks we get the answer that this is within the production tolerance... Yeah...
I'm completely disappointed about the quality issues on the Pelagos 39 and sold them.
tolerances... shame :(
Interesting. I certainly don’t find my clasp sharp at all. Agree regarding the lume though. Also, the end link fit to the case is very poor. The end link has daylight between the edge of the case and the end link. Also the clasp length, I don’t get the issue. It’s shorter than a sub for example. I do have bigger wrists do not an issue for me personally.
Bigger wrist will help probably. Mine just hits the rounded area of my wrist. (Not sure how to explain ). Wouldn’t be the case with a smaller clasp
@@BowlOfSalmon I think having a bigger wrist defiantly makes the issues go away. I would still prefer more micro adjust slots and no diver extension though.
Bought one last month. The lume on the minute hand is the worst I’ve had on any dive watch at any price point
I feel ya
Bro! The 39 has ceramic lumeblocks and inserts in bezel. The hands however does not, so it makes perfect sense that it’s not even, im not supporting it, cause tudor should be able to make a handset that is similar to the markers, dunno if its cause of the weight or slmething. When u compare it to the fxd u can see the outline of the hourmarkers so,its the same with the pelagos 42.
I rlly want that handset TUDOR!
Not following. The fxd does have proper even lume everywhere. Why wouldn’t they be able to do the same for the 39?
The hands on my 23 FXD is a little brighter than the lum in the rest of the watch.... Think they have fixed the issue...
my fxd is great too.. i hope my p39 gets fixed
Tom have you looked at NDC Straps? They are 21mm wide and have historic links to Tudor due to the link with the French Marine Nationale
I did .. but for some reason i never ordered any
I have the same problems with my hands on my pelagos 39
I’d say Don’t focus on it too much. But that is probably too late 😂
If bracelet being so long and sharp, end up using NATO, should I just go ahead with the new US NAVY Pelagos on NATO?
That’s is the reason I now got an fxd. Because a watch doesn’t always have to have a bracelet option (if it it’s not your only watch )
Have you ever considered the Delugs CTS rubber for the P39? Seems like a great option.
Haven’t. They do 21 ?
Watching the video it looks like your divers extension isn’t seating correctly. Mines done this for about a month after I got it until I figured how to wiggle it to lay flat. That sharp edge disappeared when I sorted it. Also I got mine about 6 months after release and the lume on the hands is still noticeable worse than the rest of the watch
yeah i know what you mean with the diver extension is flat .. it is indeed a weird way of having to manaouvre it at an angle to fit it under and make it click into place.... I'm just unfortunate the 12 o'clock part of the clasp sits where my wrist wraps ... and I usually have to extend the on the fly 2/5 ths for a perfect fit
Almost sold me on those artem straps. Super clean. Went to the site, $200+ for the fancy clasp. Worth it? Do they fit a small wrist (6”)? Thanks in advance. Putting on a pelagos LHD.
Check with them for advice on the sizing. They offer different sizes for the regular buckle ones so I suppose for loopless too
Nice video, Tom!
For the Zulu Octopod, what hsrdware did you choose? Between brushed and sandblasted, which one matches the P39 best?
I got the brushed version here since I double the 22 for my explorer2. Sandblasted would work too.
What about the BB54 rubber strap with TUDOR “T-fit” clasp? has anyone tried that one on the P39?
steel and ti wouldn't match much oi think... a ranger bracelet & clasp on the 58 is great tho
No mention or Erika’s Original Marine National straps?
I’ll keep that for the fxd
Have you checked out the MN strap?
Not on the 39. I ordered a 22mm for The fxd
Did you hear anything from Tudor about the hand lume issues, I got my Pelagos fairly recently and the same issue persists…I’m doubting there will be any fixes from them at this point, perhaps the hands just can’t fill as much lume as there is less volume and therefore no solution exist.
Currently still at Tudor. If the fxd can do it … but I’m not expecting much tbh
Tudor's clasps have always been horrendous. I replaced my BB58 bracelet with a Forstner bracelet that is 10x better.
No beef with the bb58 tbh. I always Love a good aftermarket strap
It’s been a year already?!
Give or take
The quality problems you mentioned are intentional. Tudor isn’t going to give you everything in one watch. This ensures dissatisfaction so you keep coming back to buy more watches. You need to buy from a better brand if you want total quality in a single watch
I’m not a flat Earther so I don’t believe in that theory. Agreed that with more expensive watches one would assume more quality. Not always the case. I know Tudor can get it right at this point too. Blackbay !
I wouldn't recommend an Octopod strap to an enemy - just horrible.
I laughed. but .. what don't you like about it ? i think its a great alternative
The problem is the watch itself not the straps 😂
Rolex wannabe with stupid looking hour hand 😂
I always love a good solid smart comment. I’ll embrace this interaction for the algo
@@BowlOfSalmon regards 😄
Titanium grade 2 is cheap and fragile if dropped
I try not to drop any of my watches tho. I’m curious how the new YM ti is tho …
@@BowlOfSalmon It is a tool watch and should be used as such, I dropped my FXD on my bedside table and it dented it, the material is very soft, not like grade 5 used in Pammys
@@splootan crying about a dent. Go buy a g-shock