‘There’s a perception of Ireland amongst other teams of having fallen in love with themselves…’
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2024
- In the aftermath of #EbenEtzebeth stoking the fires ahead of #Ireland’s tour of #SouthAfrica, #RuaidhriOConnor looks at how other teams see the #Irish as #arrogant. | ☘️
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I am a South African and I fully support Ireland believing in themselves. They have earned the right to talk a big game and so they should. Nobody is winning anything if there isn’t a ton of self confidence.
I'm tired of this BS. For the first time in Irish Rugby history, we weren't pessimistic and playing ourselves down. We finally said to ourselves we belong amongst the best teams in the world and have earned the right to feel confident in our abilities as a rugby nation and the first chance they get, the rest of the world calls us arrogant and that we disrespect our opponents. Typical OTB peddling this crap in order to get clicks because they have lost 10s of thousands of subscribers because they moronically put themselves behind a pay wall just so they could try and extract money from people.
Beautiful answer..OTB.
Such a bunch NOBODY ANALYSTS.!!
Have you really “earned” the right though?
@mtabrahams We have won back to back 6 nations. We have beaten the world Cup finalists in a 3 match test series away. We beat the eventual winners of the world Cup in the group stages. I would say Ireland as a rugby team have earned their stripes and shouldn't feel inferior anymore as the likes of South Africa and New Zealand expect us to be.
They are allowed to feel proud and confident in their abilities.
The Irish Rugby team has always respected their opponents and have never downplayed them. It has been the likes of OTB talking nonsense in the media that gets picked up by outlets abroad. They do not speak for Irish Rugby, Irish fans or Ireland.
@@dublin7 the manner in which the Irish went about the previous WC was not the way a true championship team does it. Playing a full strength team week in and week out shows 2 things. The lack of confidence the coaches has with the entire squad and the huge gap between a starter and the respective substitute.
It’s almost as if they expended everything just to get out the pool, setup to fall out of a QF, yet again.
Until the Irish can build deep depth, they always remain a good team but will ultimately will fall short all the time.
@mtabrahams the Irish Rugby team, has more than enough depth, but the coaching staff lacked confidence during the group stages to make changes game to game as the group was so strong with South Africa.amd scotland in the group. One loss and they fought an already uphill battle to get through. I think since the world Cup, Ireland have seen that playing the same 15 week in and week out is not sustainable in tournament competition. I think Ireland playing their strongest 15 is actually a mark of respect as they hold other teams in such high esteem that they would field their strongest team week and week out. Ireland learned the hard way that you need to use your depth. A lesson they won't forget anytime soon.
How dare us Irish, for once, have a successful team in sport that we can be proud of.
But they are bottlers
@@tevildo45 where are you from?
It’s nonsense, designed to get under the players skin. The fact is after South Africa lost against Ireland their own captain said that hopefully they’d see Ireland again later in the tournament, he wasn’t the only member of the SA team to say that. There was a mutual respect after that fantastic game and that was a recurring topic from both sides post game. Why OTB aren’t doing their research to give that context is beyond me!
this isn't analysis, it's 'vibes', and they don't make a dot of difference at the top level of professional sport. Ireland are a good team because of the quality of their players and coaching, nothing else
I agree.
I think it's Leinster and the Dublin media have fallen in love with their own voices in an echo chamber. Ireland have the same issues because most are Leinster players.
Not to mention a 3 series test win in NZ! That’s something very rare indeed even for the Lions. Home nations are just jealous and SA are a bit like wales of old…don’t win much in the domestic competitions but turn it on for Internationals.
How did South Africa enter this chat? We've played 2 urc season. 3 teams out of 4 in the finals. Thats basically with second string sides because we have so many players playing abroad. Hey we even had 2 players in last years winning team. Go talk kak somewhere else
it was in the video. Maybe open your eyes and ears.@@dn822
Rare? No other professional team has ever done it..
@@LeMerch The Springboks 1937, The Lions 1970-71 and Ireland 2022. They are the only teams to have beaten NZ at home in a 3+ test series
It seems to really only be SA and NZ that think Ireland are arrogant and I think that is probably more to do with those teams being a bit nervous of playing Ireland because they are good more than anything else.
Problems start when the Irish media start belittling every other team in their effort to celebrate the Irish team. Ireland is really good and they deserve the credit and more but don’t do it at the expense of other teams even if they don’t play the way you want them to play.
You can add the Aussies and English to that list
Haha you think SA and New Zealand are scared of these bunch of potato faced bottlers?
Absolute bollocks.Eveyone is entitled to their opinion but when someone tries to make out that opinion is widely held by others they just sound foolish .
More BS from this shower who have nothing better to talk about.
Etzebeth must have been fooled by a popular joke in Ireland "winning a quarter final" I don't think they said that to him too no Irish player believes they winning a world cup quarter final regardless who they playing
Bloody Hell now it all makes Sense...Abrahams is a SA...No wonder he has No idea...🤣🤣🤣
I am Irish, and i dont think we are good as we think, still yet to make a world cup semi ? i feel south africa, nz, france are ahead of us , when we come to the real crunch top team games in the world cups we either bottle it or get tactics wrong - we can win 6 nations but so what
ROC is worse than George Hook 🙈🙈🙈
Is he selling caravans cause I didn’t understand one word coming from his mount
The Irish are just as good as they've always been - solid quarterfinalists.
Good one😂
Not like the Irish to get a weeeeee bit carried away with themselves
Total BS from these lads who should know better , saying see you in the final after you beat a team is respect , like you will be back , you were unlucky today, could have gone either way . That’s just the Irish way we almost apologise for winning
Don’t think the Ireland team are at fault, but OTB and its pundits have consistently been a disgrace, Virgin Media too.
What about RTE and Jamie Hesip
Arrogance very much a D4 thing!
If players were going around saying see you in the final then they’re idiots. I don’t however think that complacency was the reason they lost to NZ. NZ turned it on on the day and were just that little bit too good. We still could have won it if Kelleher had been able to dot down. It was that close. In all though we have a great record over the last two and a half years have won a couple of six nations, and Munster a URC title it’s probably not enough to show for how good Ireland and Leinster for that matter have been during that time.
100% believe in yourself! Of course every part of the game was analysed for the 1/4, and only reason these clowns think otherwise is exactly why they are click bait. As always!
You could use this analysis for any team. There's always just one winner. Everybody else loses by just a different amount. You could say that the all blacks didn't analyze the south African game in the final and that's why they lost. Ireland have a couple of games in south Africa and I can tell you what the comments will be. If Ireland were to win the comments would be, it doesn't matter. We're still world champions, if I lose, it'll be. We told you we were the best in the world.😂😂 Fact is, they'll always be more losers than winners.
We will be here when Ireland choke again in the next world cup 🤝
End of the day as good as they are they bottled it again. They thought they were in the final by default. Mentality isn't there.
Narrowly beaten by the best team in the competition by some distance.
Hardly bottling it!
@donfalcon1495 if you're tournament favourites and no.1 ranked team and you don't win the thing then you've bottled it.
@@Tom-vb5jo ABs were actually favourites going into the tournament and this was justified in the end.
They didn’t bottle it, just got unlucky!
@donfalcon1495 that's absolute bollocks they weren't favourites with any bookies.
@@Tom-vb5jo any evidence to back up this claim?
Ireland have went to the last 6 or 7 WC expected to win by the Irish rugby media and failed EVERY time and have never even won a quarter final, win 1 quarter before you become arrogant at least.
You must be living in another universe. The Irish Media have rarely ever expressed optimism about Ireland winning the World Cup - given the fact that we have never made it past the QF stage, why would they? But of course in todays digital media world, ANY Irish Rugby Fan/Pundit expressing opinions of confidence in their team is immediately seized on by a certain section of 'thought police enforcement' as evidence of every Irish person thinking that way. Curiously that accusation of 'Irish Arrogance' seems to have only materialized in the last decade, coincidentally with the rise in the successes of Irish Rugby. Are we offending certain delicate sensibilities by winning at Club & International Level too often?
What are raving about? Ireland have only been title contenders for a maximum of 3 world cups and only 2 with a realistic chance.
😂 just win a quarter 🌜 fin already
😅
The Irish team failed in the World Cup yet again. We refused kick after kick could have beaten New Zealand easy.If the scoreboard was kept ticking over , I don't know who made those decisions but it cost us The Irish media would have slaughtered the football team.But they go easy on the posh rugby players.