2024 Mercedes CLE 450: The coupe is NOT dead!
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Mercedes Benz has replaced two coupes with one: The 2024 @MercedesBenz CLE. Not surprisingly, the @mbusa CLE Class is on offer with a Turbo 4 or a Turbo 6 - both with a 48 volt Mild Hybrid System - so of course, MotoMan takes the keys for the Mercedes CLE 450 4MATIC six and learns there is a bigger question answered in this reduction from two to one coupe from Mercedes . . .
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Accountants and Regulators (not the Warren G type) are the reason why we can't have nice big coupes anymore.
Speaking of coupes, M, did you see the Cadillac Expressive concept Garbage Motors debuted last week during an event in Detroit. It was designed in 2018 during Johan's tenure & was meant to succeed the ATS Coupe, but the accountants never signed off on it.
Excellent work like always, M.
Really??? So there’s going to be a M6?
It was at Eyes on Design . . . great annual event in The D . . . Not nearly as good as Bob's annual 'Cars in My Yard' . . . coming up on July 26, and yes, I will be there. That said, did see the car and do love the design. I am adamant that Cadillac needs to bring the El Dorado back. Stat.
@@MotoManTV oooooh just in time for the show's anniversary, looking forward to it, M! Too bad it's all the way up in the D, otherwise it would've been a perfect opportunity for Eva to make an honorary appearance. ;)
@@IceDree Bob wanted Eva there as well, but she is afraid of 2,500 each way . . . As such, arranged for something special that is also from that region of the world . .
Mercedes needs to rethink the à la carte philosophy for options. Items like leather and ventilated seats should be standard at this price point. Speaking of price, Mercedes pricing has gotten outrageous and the quality hasn’t seemed to match the cost. Crazy that a GLE 450 optioned out is over $90k.
This one was a bit surprising. Can't say I have seen them go to that level before.
German here. Mercedes is not considered a luxury brand in germany. Upscale but not luxury. Most Mercedes you see on the streets are pretty basic with cloth seats, small wheels etc. and therefore not that expensive. The CLE starts around 52k $ as a CLE200. Discounts of 10-15% are pretty common
The idle sounds like a school bus but I do really like the center mount brake light…..
Good to have you back MotoMan!
Good to be back!
this is NOT an E coupe replacement, no matter how MB wants to manipulate the marketing message. It is the C coupe.
Agreed. The whole thing looks real C Class-ish
Wasn't the combined C and E class coupe called the CLK before? On that basis, I'm surprised Mercedes enthusiasts are unhappy about the CLE being the direct evolution of the CLK (via the detour of briefly re-separated C and E coupes).
Put a smile on my face waiting for you to drive the CLE53
Looks nice
But the facelift e53 coupe is beautiful ❤❤❤
I have a 2019 E450 coupe. The CLE unfortunately is a C class. Not selling my E450 coupe. MB should have made the E and not the CLE.
Was on the fence for a E53 coupe, now I must wait for a possible amg cle
The widebody addition on 53 amg coupe is very enticing ❤
I would have preferred an E coupe.
Options on a MB add up to be the price of a brand new Hyundai Elantra. I would personally choose either an Audi S5 coupe or BMW 4 series coupe. Audi being the best looking out of the group.
So nice to hear motoman dissect the car as he drive & review. :) it's a great episode
love the new benz but i can't stand the current generation of tail light design & just how it look from the rear
While I do think this new CLE is very impressive in it's own right, especially its higher level 53 AMG form, it is very heavily C class based.
It reminds me of the CLK from the 90s and 00s. With the exception of the pillarless windows that are synonymous with the e class range of coupes for decades, it ran on C class platforms & shared a lot of engine choices, tech, and running gear with that model. While unlikely, I hope the e coupe/cab returns in it's proper form.
Yes, please 63 must with V8
How are you just parked on a main road and filming?
Lol I would love to know the answer too!
Private road.
Movie magic = closed road.
@@MotoManTV yeah I figured
To MotoMan:
Love you from Yiayia Evelyn
#BRP my friend. Took Drivers Ed on that road- really teaches you lane positioning. Thanks for the memory.
My pleasure!
Tested one of these a couple of weeks ago. Very nice, but felt much too expensive for the necessary package, more like a C than an E, felt small inside too.
Same day sat in a new E450 sedan and that felt like this price should....
Decided against buying new, will see the AMG hopefully and look at used once there's a market.
I fear that if this fails to sell MB will blame the market rather than themselves. Only two of the 'coupes' on the MB website have two doors. Give us a big luxury V8-powered thing, like the yellow beast Hemingway drove around Cuba.
"big luxury V8-powered thing" That's the S class coupe or SL, isn't it?
@@TassieLorenzo I believe the S-class coupe has been discontinued. A RR Spectre-sized MB would be fun.
Thanks for the great review, as always! I know they are not in the same price range (the 53 will be closer,) but how does the CLE platform compare to the LC500?
This makes me glad I’m no longer in the market for a new car. What you get relative to the price seems extremely shallow, especially with the insane decline in reliability and quality through Mercedes’s generations of C class
it's a modern-day CLK. Actually looks ok but I couldn't live with a 130mph top speed
Wasn’t the E class coupe always based on C class and not E class sedan?
Nope. Last car was based on the E Platform when there was both a C and an E coupe. Lovely car. czcams.com/video/T9_JDsTp_Lw/video.html
In EU this is 100k€ crazyy
Too bad the interior is a dealbreaker.
When you just sit there in the middle of the road, or parked and outside the car in the middle of the road, is the road closed for your filming? Or are you just thinking, "no one ever drives on this road, I'll be fine"?
Movie magic = closed road.
If Mercedes wants to make an El Dorado they should make an opulent 6 Seater out of the Maybach 6 …and where is the Maybach 7 , 8 and 9 ?
CLE review drinking game: take a shot every time he opens the hood or the trunk operates automatically.
When are you doing AMG 53 CLE coupe?
No idea. Have asked them for a while now when they plan to have one stateside and all I get is crickets.
@MotoManTV well I LOVE your perspective on all things BENZ and especially coupes as I'm soooooo in the market for one ..... and I re-watched your overview of this and a few other YT vids on the AMG coupe..... just the stance along with the pseudo luxury element over both M440i/M4 or S5/RS5 ..... just more to me .....only drove a 23 E450 cab for comparison.
This is really just a CLK all over again
And that was a really good car
This is hard bc he is right but what sells
This car is like Ambien, only marginally less so than EV's. The poor sales will be certain to kill off the last remaining attainable Benz coupes. Benz has really fallen hard of late.
I believe Mercedes deliberately designed the first generation of electric cars to be unattractive, anticipating that the technology would initially be underwhelming. They likely planned for the second generation to be much more desirable. Regarding your point about their cars being boring, I find this particular model absolutely beautiful and magnificent, especially with the inline-6 engine, which has been missing from their lineup. It marks a bit of a renaissance for them.
Looks good, appears comfy and sounds great!! 🫨😁❤
A luxury M-B coupe versus a BMW M4? Yes, you are crazy.
if a mercedes coupe has a b pillar then it's dead to me. pillarless coupes are the best.
Agreed.
Nope. Too much C-class in looks and the interior. Looks like we’ll have to hang onto our E53 Couple for awhile longer.
Politicians are what make things more expensive and manufacturers sweat bullets to fit all in a package that may appeal most buyers. I think the car is going to sell somewhat well but I would go more info an even comfier setting and a cabrio version of it. Oh and either phev or straight v6, anything in the middle says too much I'm doing the minimum to comply with regulation.
Driving the Cabrio in late July.
@MotoManTV will watch that then 👍
I am tired of mandatory AWD. What is wrong with RWD as an option?
What I am about to type is not fact . . . just a guess:
1.) Cost. Product planners know well it is MUCH easier to sell a RWD based vehicle with an AWD option in cold weather climates - much of the market for these types of cars. When you are dealing in low volumes like this, it really does not pay to offer both so they amortize the cost of the AWD option by making it a 100% take rate deal. Some markets may go RWD but it is rare. Exceptions are performance cars.
2.) Liability. This one is most likely a much lower priority, but it is harder to kill yourself in an AWD car in inclement weather, which the OEM lawyers prefer. In vehicles like M5s and E63s . . . they make it an AWD only car because the power is so high and the propensity to careen off the road is strong.
Again, just my two shekels.
@@MotoManTV "2.) Liability. " That doesn't explain the various 800hp rear wheel drive-only Ferraris offered by Ferrari! Perhaps Ferrari are less cautious?
The biggest problem is when you split hairs long enough you have nothing exceptional just a mishmash of mediocrity that cost too much and pleases no one! Great show, by the way I would take my chances with a Alfa, yes it has 4 doors but at 90,000 it at least gives you sex appeal and 595 HP!
Should have kept the E-Class coupe. CLE is not luxurious enough to pass as a replacement for the E-Class. But then I'd also like to have Mercedes release the E53 wagon in N America too, but I'm just one man, and without sufficient likes on this comment, why would Mercedes give a crap about what I think.
I've been asking for that and a Golf R wagon in the US and no one listens to me!
@@MotoManTV Bean counters, ugh. Let's hope my last comment/post gets enough likes for Mercedes to take notice. The less costly E53 Wagon is a better buy, by far, than the AMG GT55, IMHO. Given that it's also a hybrid, I don't see why they wouldn't immediately sell every single one they bring over.
I can’t get over everything except the rear and side profiles. Horrible! The prior gen E class looked worlds better
Mercedes is the new Infiniti
A bridge WAYYYY too far.
@@MotoManTV well… Mercedes does use Renault/Nissan 4-cylinders 😂
I love Mercedes classics, though. Built like tanks
I just can't get past the horrid ipad flat glass sections of the dash they're doing nowadays. Damn shame they're sticking to this. Big sections of high-gloss black surfaces are bad enough, but the afterthought-looking flat glass surfaces are just a big fail.
FWIW, for the $ your test car costs, I'm going M3/4 all day long & double time on Sundays. Complete no-brainer
That D-Class interior is still terrible.
The “L” in MBZ nomenclature stands for “Licht” which is German for “light”. It never stood for “long”.
In the SL parlance . . . but in this and the S, the 'L' traditionally denoted the longer wheelbase: I.e. 300 SE v 300 SEL . . .
Everyone, like this comment if you want the new E53 Wagon in North America! Let's make a difference and force Mercedes take notice!
The CLE is for fine taste Lady drivers…so you need Handbags and Boutique Bags in fine composition with the intern leather of the Mercedes CLE
Rear end still ugly.
very expensive. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
I like to remind magas that all of the inflationary triggers and stimuli of 2020 were enacted by the trump administration
Literally nothing to do with the car - has to do with manufacturers being greedy.
I couldn’t keep up with all the cross referencing with letters and numbers of other vehicles so pardon me in advance for my only comment. Stunningly it sounded much better inside than outside so I’m assuming that Burmester radio is doing a great job. 🚗🔈🔉🔊🫤 13:35
1,000% agree!