Russian wwi “great” overcoat
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- This isn’t a wwi manufactured fur greatcoat but these bekesha’s haven’t changed much since the 1600’s basically just the lengths and the buttons. Buying one of these and just replacing it with period accurate buttons is all you would have to do make this look period correct. I reckoned you bump these up a size from your regular Russian size to account for the loft and thickness of the sheepskin. These come in a variety of colors and most are miss-matched fur colors on the inside and will often be a natural off white color on the outside. Hopefully you liked this video and subscribed if you like this sort of stuff. Please leave a comment with any questions, additional information, or suggestions for future videos and I will do my best to answer them. As always thanks for watching.
Thank you,
Devin K.
The Russian size of the bekesh can be determined by measuring the girth of the chest in centimeters. Half the bust is your size. For example, a chest circumference of 112 centimeters is 56 size.
I've been looking for one for ages. The only affordable ones are white and that just won't work for me (easily stained). The black ones seem to have all been bought up. Given how simple the construction is, I don't think it will be too difficult to replicate this with thick faux fur lining and a heavy wool fabric for the shell. Gonna do a trial run with some cheaper faux fur and a heavy wool blanket. I'll upload a video if it works out.
Edit: update, the faux fur worked brilliantly. Faux rabbit fur off Aliexpress is great. But I found a seller on etsy that can do custom work for you for not much more money. I got a honey gold one with the black shell, but a nice straightened sheared collar and a zipper. Awesome stuff for $289 plus shipping.
I bought my Bekesha from a Russian fellow in Ebay; his seller name is "dmisvent0" and he has dozens of Bekesha's in black as well as beige.He has good prices and personally with my Bekesha, all the pics were true to the coat so there were no hidden details.
You-ll find tons on Etsy for about nothing. Update I guess it's the same seller.
@@pantx0 I know this comment is from only 10 months ago, but his coats are now all north of $600 which is just a bit much. I could get a brand new b7 parka replica from Turkey or China for that. I found some on etsy and the seller convinced me that the color is just an option and that he can make it any color which piqued my interest. Still the cheapest is still north of $200 so I'll stick to my furlakoat.
@@RenoLaringo yeah, they look good. I got my vegan version and it came out beautifully. I got some faux curly sherpa and 2 black medium weight military wool blanket.
Mate you can get them on eBay, proper ones from Russia,not sure about now with the war, but I got mine for about 4,500 dollars.
Good info. I ordered the size 52 as well, shipped from Russia waited two months to get it, and when I did I can barely get it on. I wear a size 42 in US jackets normally, and that is a pretty snug fit. Was told 52 was equivalent to a US 42, but it's actually a lot smaller. Measured my under arm chest circumference at 113cm. Just ordered another one from ebay, this time size 56 and I'm hoping this one will fit. The first one I got was the beige with white collar and sheep fur, the second one is the black like yours, but the pic shows grey fur. Will have to wait till february when it comes in to see if it's grey or goldish fur. Either way they're really warm and thick high quality for the price IMO. A similar coat would probably cost $500+ new to make, so at $136 shipped is a good deal.
No Joke Tyler yeah the sizing is a bit off and varies from manufacture to manufacture I have a 38 chest and the size 52 is almost to tight for me but that was remedied just by resewing the buttons
Got my from Kasakhstan fit fine (give right messsure took 3 Weeks & that in Winter Holliday Time not bad!-black one This Seller :denikalande 0 (on ebay) has auction sale 2.Hand ( very good Condition!) but can get new ones I payed £50 plus =£30 Postage well worth it!
Very very nice jacket
How you find arm dexterity in bekesha? I have one and it's super warm and cool but what I find irritating is arm movement especially at the shoulder seams I find it uncomfortable when you reach for something. It would be much better with raglan sleeves. Do you noticed that in your experience?
Great I just order mine this morning and it’s 1960s black with the gold brown fur , good idea going back over the seams , what about dry cleaning for the smell ?
The smell just takes time nothing really helps it
Hey i just recieved mine and im realy happy with it. Only thing that sucks is the strong smell and some stains. How can i clean this coat without ruining it?
Mommas boy you can’t really like clean them, but you can use a baking soda water paste to try and remove the stains and the smell is something they all have you just have to leave it outside where it won’t get wet for a long time and it will go away after a few days
@@DevinK hi there Devin!! I just recently found a baby blue/light Carolina blue sheepskin bekesha (or so I think) left out on the side of the road out where jog. It has the same canvas style pockets in it but it is stamped country of origin as France. Made in Paris (with exact street name-can’t read totally). It also has a unique pocket stitch design on the outside unlike ones I have seen. Also has wooden fasteners? White inside fur/wool?
It also has a canvas “hood”-thin canvas material that would have fit tight to the head. Hadn’t seen it on other coats of similar style. I’m wondering if you can help me figure out when it is from?
If I'm not mistaken, these weigh about 11lbs.
He says 20lbs. in the video
@@agamersstation5413 so 39lbs if you count for inflation?
I also wanna know the method to sanitize and maintain the Sheepskin coat Soviet BEKESHA Coat . Because I see a little smudge on the surface
Sanitizingnyou can’t do much for and as far as the smudge goes it depends what caused the smudge like if it’s grease it’s going to probably be permanent
@@DevinK thank you
smudge is mostly ballpoint pen ink and dusty on my cuff, by the way my overcoat is beige ，so any smudges are very visible, that why I want them removed immediately.
@@yuksn8983 ink is going to be hard I would try like a tide pen and the dust can just be brushed off
I own 2 off these the land cream and navy black one
I've got one of these, it's WW2 and it's bloody heavy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Need one that’s 48incb chest only see smaller ones. Want the one that’s black leather outside. No luck finding it.
Yeah good luck on the larger sizes
@@DevinK the Russians are small.
You said you wear Russian 50 to 52......
What size do you wear in American clothing?? medium or large?? or extra large??
I normally wear an XL... so if I got this coat in a 2XL American size.. what would that be in Russian sizes?? any help, I would appreciate. ... also where did you buy yours? thanks.
calholli 48 is medium 50 is large 52 is extra large 54 is xxl and so on but normally order a size up with these to account for the thickness of the fur and extra cloths under so I wear a 50 so I order 52’s and make sure you get the length right too so after the 52 size there is a dash and another number 1-6 I wear a 4 in length so so I got a 52-4
The Russian sizes are not the same as the USA sizes. I wear a 40R, so what size is that in Russian?
tjrank1 it’s about a 50 in Russian but for winter stuff like this I get size 52
I’m thinking of buying the white colored bekesha. Is it worth buying?
Gage Romuk depends on the price point
I ordered a “Comissar’s coat” as the guy called it with the ‘вс’ and star stamp on the back for 90 plus shipping
I guess "BC" is "taken out from the Duty?" my has the small Stamp on the Shoulder..
cool
100 dollars. Bullshit they go for 250-300 US diollars on ebay
I got mine for $135 US and it's in extremely good condition (January 2021, black skin and fur) . The sellers that go beyond $200 either have a damned good coat or are nuts to pump the price up so much. For sure you can get $100 Bekeshas in very good condition on Ebay.
@@pantx0 For understanding: a new bekesha in Russia costs about $ 200.
@@romakani Thank you! I think $200 is totally worth it! I bought mine on EBay for $135 (free shipping, it took to months to get here) and I am very happy with it. It has a little bit of smell and I am trying to find the proper way to clean the fur inside.
@@pantx0 For the smell I can suggest a really simple way:
smoke
not as in smoking 5 packs of smooth tasting Marlboro Gold 100s, more like wood fire smoke.
This is what we do on our two-three week long trips across Northern Norway.
We mostly pack wool, was when we can, soak our cloth in water, and then smoke it out.
The first few hours/day you are going to smell like fire (not raper fire, just genuine fire) but after that most of the "bad" smells would be gone.
Letting the wool/fur air out for a day outside when not in use will also naturally remove the smell.
@@svampebob007 very cool and interesting! Thanks for your reply.
Im trying to figure out if i need a rus 48 or rus 50 my chest is 39 with wider back im 5'4
Ide go larger
@@DevinK I Got a rus 52-1 hopefully its not to big lol i took your advice
@@mattymoldovan3986 well the -1 is the shortest size so the sleeves will go past the elbow maybe
@@DevinK Lol well im 5"4 and my arms are 28inches to my fingers 52-2 would be to long ?
@@mattymoldovan3986 I would have went for like a 52-3 or 4
What is the lowest price
what is a 'wool version' verse fur version? .. do both versions have a 'suede' exterior ?
Karl Blacke no the wool one is just cloth and the fur versions will be leather outside fur inside
Hello, how you condition inside fur? Do you just brush it or?
There is a few ways all of them are messy though but if you take care of the leather the hair should be fine
@@DevinK Do you have a particular way of maintaining a leather? Do I just brush it?
@@UltimateAleks the fur side you can use dry shampoo and conditioner if it’s not to far gone already most of these are so old it won’t help and the skin side you can use regular leather conditioner.
I ordered one in 52 im so parnoid about sizeing i usually buy xl shirts and coats im 5'7" and 210 pounds broad shouldered you thknk a 52 will fit me?
Well none of the measurements actually have chest circumference so I don’t know
@@DevinK but do you think a 52 would fit someone who usually wears a large or extra large
@@jonesysself-reliance3705 euro sizing doesn’t work like that
I guess ill just pray that the 52 will fit then fingers crosses
I measured my chest with a tape measure lol not accurate but im at 44 inches i think that 52 will be small but leather stretches some and im sure there are ways to modify to fit
Where do you get them from?
Russia
Can you dry clean them?
Cody saules yes some places will
@@DevinK Awesome thank you
where can I buy one?
Manuel Martinez russia and they aren’t cheap if they aren’t in Russia. But if your country has trade embargoes on russian good luck
@@DevinK Is there a website where you got yours?
Manuel Martinez about the only place internationally with good sizes left is ebay
20lbs .. lol.. hilarious..
I bet it's 8 to 10 lbs tops.. but that is still very heavy.
calholli mine has double layers of fur in the chest region it’s the heaviest version of this coat other then the navy rubberized covering version
@@DevinK I have a couple heavy B3 bomber sheapskins.. one is particularly heavy.... I stepped on my scale in the bathroom with, and then without the heaviest coat... and it was 8lbs. (yours is longer though, I don't doubt that it's heavy)............. Question:
You said you wear Russian 50 to 52......
What size do you wear in American clothing?? medium or large?? or extra large??
I normally wear an XL... so if I got this coat in a 2XL American size.. what would that be in Russian sizes?? any help, I would appreciate. thanks.
Also, where did you buy yours? thanks.
calholli I wear a 40 in American which is between a medium and large and I ordered a size 52-4 which game me room for a layer underneath and and I ordered my normal Russian size in length which is 4. And I picked this up in Russia’s
Where did you buy them?
Ruzia ebay has a lot