Did you play it in person? Very few stores stock them and I was disappointed with the cymbal sounds compared to Roland. The Tom I think definitely sound better and bass drum and snare are compatible to Roland and there were a few kits that I thought sounded stock set up better than Roland but Roland cymbals sounded so much better to me.
Really digging this module lay out. I jumped from Roland to Yamaha EAD10 with LV80’s and totally dig what Yamaha has to offer. This module is next on my list.
That’s the only thing I hate about electronic drums in cheaper set ups is the Mickey Mouse tiny sizes ! And when you scale up to the 12 inch pads especially with Roland you need to remortgage the house but you basically getting the exact same thing but slightly larger ...oh well I’m sure someone will buy my right arm on eBay 🤣 thanks Justin this channel is top drawer dude 👍
@@johndef5075 I think it's just very expensive material. Not like Roland's plastic mesh heads. If you've played both you'd know what I'm talking about. Roland's heads have too much bounce and they're quite loud. Yamaha's are quiet, but the bounce is a bit lower than acoustic drums. It's good practice though, and the lesser of the two evils, if you ask me. Too much bounce can be a killer when moving to real drums. Also the sounds you get with Roland are heavily synthesized, especially when you compare it to Yamaha which records it's samples from real Yamaha drums. You might not notice it if you're never played Yamaha E-drums, and only stuck to Roland, but once you do, there's just no going back. But if you're looking to record, you probably use MIDI and get a VSTI or something, anyway - so the samples don't really matter. In that case you just go with bounce+noise. To each his own.
The training exercises in this kit makes it worth buying just for those. They are more advanced than in any Roland kit I’ve owned. They have tightened up my playing quicker and better than anything I have tried previously.
@@EccentricMusicianCompanyOxford yes, you won’t be disappointed. The monitoring of drum accuracy is much more expansive on the Yamaha than Roland. It tracks everything.
Thx for the break down on this kit, i was looking for a decent quality set that was apartment friendly and the size and quality of this set was perfect for my needs. I checked it out and played around with the competition in store and I definitely liked the way this felt and sounded the best. Only wish the snare was a little bigger, but like you said i can always get a bigger one down the road.
You can purchase a larger mesh snare for 100-250$ from Roland or alesis w/e it just won’t have 3 zone with 1 cable like Yamaha TCS pads. Yamaha has older 10/12” rubber pads that triple zone for 50-100$ used from older dtx express line of drum kits. The TCS 10/12” pads are expensive unfortunately, however never have to buy drum head and they are extremely durable, transport safe, excellent sensitivity and response. My ghost notes have never sounded better or more even with these TCS pads. I have Roland td-17 very upgraded kv kit, had alesis strike module that I sold to buy this dtx pro module as upgrade for a dtx560 kit I bought from FB marketplace last month. I played one of these kits at guitar center and absolutely loved the sounds. After playing Yamaha kit for a month I love the TCS pads and cymbals as well. 13” hihat on stand was awesome upgrade from CY-5 and FD-9 pedal
I’m totally going to buy this!! Thank you CZcams for recommending this! It’s going to be quite some time before I get my first acoustic drum kit and will need an electric one for the mean time. I don’t need to look any further because this is just what I’ve been looking for. ❤️
Definitely. I got a bunch of the XP series pads running with a Mimic pro, and I absolutely love them pads! The older TP series ones are also very very nice.
I have tried Alesis Strike, Roland TD17k and this drum and the DTX6K3X is definitly my favourite. I really prefer Yamaha pads to mesh pads, and it just sound amazing, I thought soundwise that I was more surrounded, everything was more enveloped if that makes any sense. I hated Alesis hi hat (was just not working properly at the store I went to) and didn,t like much the TD17 bassdrum, and again, I am not a big fan of mesh heads.
I think it sounds fantastic, some really excellent drum sounds there. I do expect them to release a version of this with the larger pads, say 2 x XP100T, an XP120T, and XP120SD, with a 15" ride, 2 x 13" crashes and either the kick tower or maybe the DT50K trigger for an acoustic bass drum or something... That would be a really cool set up!
One thing that nobody seems to talk about: the module has 40 preset kits, but a majority of them are frankly not very good. It's a lot of filler, not many kits that would actually sound good in the context of a song. That being said, the few kits that do sound good make it all worthwhile. I wouldn't have minded if it only featured 15 or 20 preset kits, as long as they were all more usable and inspiring. With 40, you end up having to scroll past a bunch of them.
I agree, but it's also incredible the amount of sounds you get and many of them are quite good. The snare drum sounds are far superior than Roland TD-17. For me, the only disappointment is that there is no ride with a sizzle sound or brush sounds within the module.
What instrument/kit sounds do you use? I only found 2 normal hi hat sounds, 14in pop and I think 15in rock. Wish they add more sounds. Is there more sounds for this module I'm not finding?
I don't understand WHY Yamaha went with such tiny drum pads?! Is no one over at Yamaha actually THINKING about what drummers need? This is a head scratcher, for certain. Thanks, Justin, for another great video. I'm recovering from Covid-19. I need stuff to cheer me up. This video certainly helped.
I feel like you forgot to mention the main parts about the module that everyone else seems to be talking about: the sample sounds (especially compared to Roland) + positional sensing on the ride and (soon) on the snare?
Yeah I think that alone makes it the clear leader in comparison to the TD-17. Not to mention the sound editing capability is closer to the TD-27 than the TD-17. They have similar numbers of effects processors, total effects, EQ ability on individual pads and most importantly compression. You can't edit compression on a TD-17.
@fartpoobox ohyeah The new yet unreleased snare will have three sensors apparently (and a mesh head!) so I would imagine the processor will somehow triangulate the position depending on the strength/time of the signal from each. Probably similar to how earthquake epicentres are located, actually. Don't quote me on that though 😂 No demos because of the snare not being in the open yet (it's in the manual tho).
@fartpoobox ohyeah Ddrum achieved positional sensing in the 90's with a single piezo based pad design. Not just that, also read pressure too. Ddrum do not get enough applause for what they did with e-drums prior to the boom. It might feel like marginalised market now (which it is) but back then, it was way more so.
Awesome video. I can’t get enough of your videos. Drums sugar hit 😀. Only thing I’m really left wondering is how good the high hats feel. I have a Roland TD-17KVX as realistic hi-hats is a non-negotiable for me. Can I suggest you come up with some sort of standard set of questions you answer about each new set? E.g. do the cymbals only work on one side, and how easy it is to ensure they don’t go out of alignment without notice. This is one thing I actually had no idea about. There are unanswered questions on forums of people wondering if they have a dud cymbal.
I am having the Yamaha DTX 532K and it´s still a good companion after all this years. I´ve used it pretty extensivly and the cymbals and pads still work nicely. Only thing is: The silicone pad of my snare got a hole. This is a bit frustrating, because you cannot just swap them out. So i just filled the hole with some window silicone. It might not look pretty but it worked. So if you are having the same issue, maybe it´ll work for you as well.
Thanks for the review. I was interested in this model because of the 3 Trigger crash cymbals. I need all the bells on ALL my cymbals. But, the only thing that bothers me with this set is the tom size. Even adding a couple more inches would be better. Also, not crazy that the toms can't be truly repositioned where you want them. Plus, I wish this came with a 2nd floor tom like the 950k. I really can't afford the higher end models just for larger toms.
The sound editing capability is closer to the TD-27 than the TD-17. They have similar numbers of effects processors, total effects, EQ ability on individual pads and most importantly compression. You can't edit compression on a TD-17.
Why is that? I'm thinking of purchasing my 1st electronic drum kit. idk whether to go with Alesis Crimson 1st release (+$700 brand new and has bigger sized toms) or go with Yamaha DTX6K ($1200 brand new and has smaller sized toms) I'm torn bec. I think the Alesis is a great buy, but I read that it does not have a great build quality 😐
I just tried that TD17 along with many higher end ones along with various Alesis sets at a way higher price. The Yamaha destroyed them all in every way imaginable.
My rack for this exact kit is coming on tomorrow. And my friend has had one for a few years now and it's amazing. Hit sensitivity is on point and has remained that way
Hey man, after 3 years of this video it is still valid and very useful! Knowing that today the Yamaha DTX6K3-X is $200 more expensive than the Roland TD-17KVX2, which of the two models do you think is worth buying? I'm dying of indecision 😵. I heard that the Yamaha sounds better and that the module is a little better too, but I don't know if the small pads are comfortable. I don't have any local stores in my area to try them 😔
Its a preference but i love this Yamaha kit. Just got it 2 weeks ago and its amazing. And use sweetwater sounds to order it. Most music stores dont have this on display to try. Its mostly roland simmons and alesis.
wow nice review. the quality of your videos are very good. great drumming also. This Yamaha kit is one I am considering. Have you had any experience with the 2box speedlight kit?
This will replace my DTXplorer. I'd love to be able to afford a top end Roland but that's a pipe dream. This seems like a nice middle ground. Shame the pads are a bit small but you always have to compromise. My neighbours will love how much quieter those pads are. Shame you don't have the same level of rotation on the toms.
Some think it sounds bad but if you watch TD50 demos they sound no better than this. So you can get a kit for under $2000 that sounds just as good as a kit thats $10,500 and the kit is getting bashed!?!? Also with all the sampling and effects in the module you could get a much better sound than the TD50. Yamaha just went in and sampled real drums. I sat down at a TD17 and this kit about 2 months ago and the sound of the drums in the Yamaha kit absolutely wiped the floor with the TD17. But. None of this matters because Superior Drummer 3 exists lol
About the pad sizes being incongruent with a modern drum set of this price, you're not WRONG, but they had different priorities. Instread of giving us bigger pads with a cheaper module, they gave us an expensive module with small pads. To ME, that's much more important. The most important part of the kit is there, and we can just slowly upgrade to bigger pads over time. I think Yamaha made exactly the right choice.
I had a Yamaha DTX582 for a couple of months. I did like the pads, but the sounds were just not great imho. Especially the Toms sounded artificial and just too processed for my liking and it unfortunately seems to be the same here. Definitely not for me so I will probably look at either Efnote or ATV when the time comes to get an electronic set again. Plus, lie you mentioned multiple times, those pads are tiny, my practice pad is larger than the snare :D
@@65Drums So true. I reached out to Simon this morning....he is being very cagey regarding any new Yamaha product...ie larger pads, more outputs and bigger internal memory. Roland big roll out last week may motivate Yamaha to push up new products. Who knows....
Your reviews are always brilliant thanks. I was so close to buying this kit. I love the new kick tower and the sounds within the module but those head sizes are so small for such an expensive kit. It is so disappointing of Yamaha to do this. Surely their XP120SD/12 inch snare and XP100T/10 inch Tom's would have created a very compelling reason to buy this set.
Same here. I like the sounds and module interface more on the Yamaha. Maybe like he mentions. Get a larger snare pad and personaly I'd just replace the floor tom with the snare as I like a minimal setup.
I could imagine a DTX7 kit with the DTX-PRO module and the DTX760K pads but that has a MSRP: $4,399.00 and with that price it isn't going anywhere in the current market and competition maybe they will totally skip the expensive line of edrums and stay with the cheap offerings unless they can lower their prices.
You're totally right about the size of the pads. Yamaha needs to step things up and increase the size of the pads. Its fine for the smaller size to come with the "basic" kit but the 2 and 3 kits need to come with bigger pads. With that said, is this a real problem, especially for practice? I don't think so. I mean, yeah, I agree they should be bigger if for no other reason than at this price point, Yamaha needs to give you more. But practicing on smaller pads does have some advantage, I've found with my older Yamaha set (DTX500). For performance, yeah, they need to be bigger -- no argument there. Keep in mind that you can get a larger Yamaha snare pad, though at an extra cost. In terms of sounds, I'll take Yamaha over anyone given a similar generation. In other words, Roland and Alesis may have surpassed Yamaha given that Yamaha hasn't come out with anything new in a half-decade. But I like my 500 kit sounds over what Roland offered THEN (and to some extent, a few years later). Obviously, this is subjective, but: Yamaha makes some of the best acoustic drums in the world. They also know how to sample -- everything from drums to grand pianos. They're the best at it. Not that Roland is a slouch, they aren't; in fact, they're darn good at it. So I'll take Yamaha everything else being equal. I'm probably a year out from getting this or a similar set. I hope Yamaha has some bigger pads by then.
@@65Drums bruh,😂😂😂 na I've been a part of the family for a while. You're getting better. You didn't suck at all but you're fine tuning. Looking forward to the comparison video too. Blessings, bruh!
I just wanna see a successor to the DTX Multi 12. Cool looking device but it's super outdated compared to what the competition is offering. Of course Justin, you know all of this. Just hoping Yamaha is reading this.😄
I still cannot find the answer to: do Yamaha DTXTREME III pads work with Yamaha DTXPROX module? The Yamaha compatibility chart doesn't have info on it. Can you possibly enlighten me? Great channel btw. Wonderful work you're doing here.
DTX6K2-X line with the rubber tom pads and TCS snare feels way better than mesh in my opinion! I went to GC a few days ago and played on a Roland TD27 and although we know those floor models are absolutely beaten to death, I really did not like the way they felt in comparison
You nailed it with the snare size, I feel like this would be better received if it came with at least a 10 inch snare. I recently sold my Alesis Strike Pro SE after 2 ride cymbal replacements, and had my eye on this one. I considered the DTX720k for the larger pads, but it's a shame it comes with one less cymbal.
I’m undecided between this kit, the dtx8 (mesh or tcs), or the Roland TD17KVX 2. I’ve Ben undecided between these kits for several years...I’m not sure which to choose...
Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge. Definitely helped me make a super informed decision. Justin f@#*ing Rocks! Bonus...who are some of your fav drummers/musicians? Peace
The sounds great great, but not quite as good as the mimic because it's half the price. But that's just my take. There is zero consensus on what module sounds the best. So it's ideal to just pull up two videos of the module's you want to compare, listen to them both side by side, and figure out which you like better. Every module has its own personality and sonic pallet which can appeal to certain drummers, but not others.
@@65Drums Absolutely true. But see how you were able to still give me an answer in there without trying to sway my opinion? That's what I was looking for so thank you!
One of the biggest things that turns me away from this kit is the single zone toms. It is possible to switch out one of the single zone toms with an XP80 and put cowbells and woodblocks on the rim of it and use the head as the Tom?
I can't figure out what Yamaha is up to. I still run a dtxtremeII and I was hoping to replace my pads with the cellular versions but they are outrageously expensive still. Their drum racks are terrible with all the plastic fittings. All my toms have the proper Yamaha tom arms but moving the plastic clamps around is a total pita. I can't see why anyone would shell out nearly 2k for a set this small.
Hi Justin love your honest reviews I was wondering if you would be able too tell me if you think the 2box drum triggers would be safely compatible with the dtx-pro that would be awesome thanks.🤔🤯
I recommend them, I got a bunch running into a Mimic pro, and I really like them. Not sure if the module is available on its own yet, but I have it on good authority that when it is, it'll be very well priced. I think it sounds fantastic. With a larger pad set up, I think its a serious contender.
I found one issue. If you play lefty, and use headphone jack, spatial audio is off ie you hear the low Tom to the right whereas when lefty it's to left
Hi .. quick question: I have a Roland TD 1DMK and one of my symbols is sometimes doesn’t play the sound when I hit it.. is there a way to fix that? Thanks!
@@65Drums Actually sometimes it doesn’t respond at all. Cable is all the way in and I have no clue how to lower the threshold trigger sitting in the module, it is a Roland TD1 DMK. Does it come with that option?
Your channel is underrated
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For sure. I only look for 65Drum videos when doing ekit stuff.
I really love how you've slowly incorporated metal playing into your style, and you've improved so much over the years dude ❤️
I wanted this kit and there was barely any videos on this series I was not expecting this thanks Justin
The quality of your content is top-notch. Greetings from Mexico!
I like these sounds much more than the ones in roland drumsets
Did you play it in person? Very few stores stock them and I was disappointed with the cymbal sounds compared to Roland. The Tom I think definitely sound better and bass drum and snare are compatible to Roland and there were a few kits that I thought sounded stock set up better than Roland but Roland cymbals sounded so much better to me.
I saw 400 sounds on the specs, is that accurate?
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Really digging this module lay out. I jumped from Roland to Yamaha EAD10 with LV80’s and totally dig what Yamaha has to offer. This module is next on my list.
That’s the only thing I hate about electronic drums in cheaper set ups is the Mickey Mouse tiny sizes ! And when you scale up to the 12 inch pads especially with Roland you need to remortgage the house but you basically getting the exact same thing but slightly larger ...oh well I’m sure someone will buy my right arm on eBay 🤣 thanks Justin this channel is top drawer dude 👍
It is weird Yamaha still pushing these small pads. Maybe clearing out inventory for new sets down the road.
@@johndef5075 I think it's just very expensive material. Not like Roland's plastic mesh heads. If you've played both you'd know what I'm talking about. Roland's heads have too much bounce and they're quite loud. Yamaha's are quiet, but the bounce is a bit lower than acoustic drums. It's good practice though, and the lesser of the two evils, if you ask me. Too much bounce can be a killer when moving to real drums. Also the sounds you get with Roland are heavily synthesized, especially when you compare it to Yamaha which records it's samples from real Yamaha drums. You might not notice it if you're never played Yamaha E-drums, and only stuck to Roland, but once you do, there's just no going back.
But if you're looking to record, you probably use MIDI and get a VSTI or something, anyway - so the samples don't really matter. In that case you just go with bounce+noise. To each his own.
The training exercises in this kit makes it worth buying just for those. They are more advanced than in any Roland kit I’ve owned. They have tightened up my playing quicker and better than anything I have tried previously.
Good to know. I am looking for a kit for the drum learning studio.
@@EccentricMusicianCompanyOxford yes, you won’t be disappointed. The monitoring of drum accuracy is much more expansive on the Yamaha than Roland. It tracks everything.
Thx for the break down on this kit, i was looking for a decent quality set that was apartment friendly and the size and quality of this set was perfect for my needs. I checked it out and played around with the competition in store and I definitely liked the way this felt and sounded the best. Only wish the snare was a little bigger, but like you said i can always get a bigger one down the road.
You can purchase a larger mesh snare for 100-250$ from Roland or alesis w/e it just won’t have 3 zone with 1 cable like Yamaha TCS pads. Yamaha has older 10/12” rubber pads that triple zone for 50-100$ used from older dtx express line of drum kits. The TCS 10/12” pads are expensive unfortunately, however never have to buy drum head and they are extremely durable, transport safe, excellent sensitivity and response. My ghost notes have never sounded better or more even with these TCS pads. I have Roland td-17 very upgraded kv kit, had alesis strike module that I sold to buy this dtx pro module as upgrade for a dtx560 kit I bought from FB marketplace last month. I played one of these kits at guitar center and absolutely loved the sounds. After playing Yamaha kit for a month I love the TCS pads and cymbals as well. 13” hihat on stand was awesome upgrade from CY-5 and FD-9 pedal
I have this kit. It’s fantastic.
Hey, how do you record the video with the audio in the app? Do you need a special cable to do that? Or is with an AUX?
Hi. Can't find online. Same silicone pads/ heads at DTX8?
I’m totally going to buy this!! Thank you CZcams for recommending this! It’s going to be quite some time before I get my first acoustic drum kit and will need an electric one for the mean time. I don’t need to look any further because this is just what I’ve been looking for. ❤️
I'm getting this to run my DTXTREME IIS! This module with the DTXTREME IIS pads will be killer!
Definitely. I got a bunch of the XP series pads running with a Mimic pro, and I absolutely love them pads! The older TP series ones are also very very nice.
I have tried Alesis Strike, Roland TD17k and this drum and the DTX6K3X is definitly my favourite. I really prefer Yamaha pads to mesh pads, and it just sound amazing, I thought soundwise that I was more surrounded, everything was more enveloped if that makes any sense. I hated Alesis hi hat (was just not working properly at the store I went to) and didn,t like much the TD17 bassdrum, and again, I am not a big fan of mesh heads.
I think it sounds fantastic, some really excellent drum sounds there. I do expect them to release a version of this with the larger pads, say 2 x XP100T, an XP120T, and XP120SD, with a 15" ride, 2 x 13" crashes and either the kick tower or maybe the DT50K trigger for an acoustic bass drum or something... That would be a really cool set up!
Feels like Yamaha is holding back a lot!
There’s something very 80’s about that module.
Great review! 👍
I was gonna say the same, very 80's or early 90's design. But when you hear it, it's really sounds bloody modern and very good IMHO.
@fartpoobox ohyeah If that's your opinion....
One thing that nobody seems to talk about: the module has 40 preset kits, but a majority of them are frankly not very good. It's a lot of filler, not many kits that would actually sound good in the context of a song. That being said, the few kits that do sound good make it all worthwhile. I wouldn't have minded if it only featured 15 or 20 preset kits, as long as they were all more usable and inspiring. With 40, you end up having to scroll past a bunch of them.
As a user of this kit, some are definitely good, and some are just…why are they there?
I agree, but it's also incredible the amount of sounds you get and many of them are quite good. The snare drum sounds are far superior than Roland TD-17. For me, the only disappointment is that there is no ride with a sizzle sound or brush sounds within the module.
What instrument/kit sounds do you use? I only found 2 normal hi hat sounds, 14in pop and I think 15in rock. Wish they add more sounds. Is there more sounds for this module I'm not finding?
I don't understand WHY Yamaha went with such tiny drum pads?! Is no one over at Yamaha actually THINKING about what drummers need? This is a head scratcher, for certain. Thanks, Justin, for another great video. I'm recovering from Covid-19. I need stuff to cheer me up. This video certainly helped.
Exactly this that I think about
Hope your recovering well
Couldn’t help noticeing
you’ve been practicing your moeller technique
looks smooth my dude
Stock sounds are pretty nice!
I feel like you forgot to mention the main parts about the module that everyone else seems to be talking about: the sample sounds (especially compared to Roland) + positional sensing on the ride and (soon) on the snare?
Yeah I think that alone makes it the clear leader in comparison to the TD-17.
Not to mention the sound editing capability is closer to the TD-27 than the TD-17. They have similar numbers of effects processors, total effects, EQ ability on individual pads and most importantly compression.
You can't edit compression on a TD-17.
@fartpoobox ohyeah The new yet unreleased snare will have three sensors apparently (and a mesh head!) so I would imagine the processor will somehow triangulate the position depending on the strength/time of the signal from each. Probably similar to how earthquake epicentres are located, actually. Don't quote me on that though 😂 No demos because of the snare not being in the open yet (it's in the manual tho).
@fartpoobox ohyeah Ddrum achieved positional sensing in the 90's with a single piezo based pad design. Not just that, also read pressure too. Ddrum do not get enough applause for what they did with e-drums prior to the boom. It might feel like marginalised market now (which it is) but back then, it was way more so.
Thanks Justin I've been waiting for this one
Awesome video. I can’t get enough of your videos. Drums sugar hit 😀.
Only thing I’m really left wondering is how good the high hats feel. I have a Roland TD-17KVX as realistic hi-hats is a non-negotiable for me.
Can I suggest you come up with some sort of standard set of questions you answer about each new set? E.g. do the cymbals only work on one side, and how easy it is to ensure they don’t go out of alignment without notice. This is one thing I actually had no idea about. There are unanswered questions on forums of people wondering if they have a dud cymbal.
you have a great drum set! I love Roland TD17KVX! My dream drum set next to Roland TD27KVX. Thank you! 🙂
Just bought this set.. I will post in a few months and let you know what I think after owning them for a while..
Holy crap you've been practicing. Ur ssoo much better now
Yamaha seems to make some of the best value instruments. I love their flutes. Looks like a nice drum set, too.
I am having the Yamaha DTX 532K and it´s still a good companion after all this years. I´ve used it pretty extensivly and the cymbals and pads still work nicely. Only thing is: The silicone pad of my snare got a hole. This is a bit frustrating, because you cannot just swap them out. So i just filled the hole with some window silicone. It might not look pretty but it worked. So if you are having the same issue, maybe it´ll work for you as well.
Thanks for the review. I was interested in this model because of the 3 Trigger crash cymbals. I need all the bells on ALL my cymbals. But, the only thing that bothers me with this set is the tom size. Even adding a couple more inches would be better. Also, not crazy that the toms can't be truly repositioned where you want them. Plus, I wish this came with a 2nd floor tom like the 950k. I really can't afford the higher end models just for larger toms.
Hey Justin, would you consider doing a DTX8K review? I'd love to know if you recommend it!
Great review Justin!! The modules are getting better. I think since they made the EAD 10 this has helped them out!!
The sound editing capability is closer to the TD-27 than the TD-17. They have similar numbers of effects processors, total effects, EQ ability on individual pads and most importantly compression.
You can't edit compression on a TD-17.
Do you own this kit? And how important is compression to make electronic drums sound more natural
just ordered this kit--specifically the DTX6K2-X!! honestly I ordered it specifically for the upgraded module and the three-zone cymbals
Small pads are advantage in electronic drums, imo.
Why is that? I'm thinking of purchasing my 1st electronic drum kit. idk whether to go with Alesis Crimson 1st release (+$700 brand new and has bigger sized toms) or go with Yamaha DTX6K ($1200 brand new and has smaller sized toms)
I'm torn bec. I think the Alesis is a great buy, but I read that it does not have a great build quality 😐
does this beat the Roland TD17KVX in terms of drum head/cymbal quality and accurate hit sensitivity?
I'd love to know this as well!
I just tried that TD17 along with many higher end ones along with various Alesis sets at a way higher price. The Yamaha destroyed them all in every way imaginable.
@@drewjohnson4794 any specifics on accurate hit sensitivity for your comparisons?
My rack for this exact kit is coming on tomorrow. And my friend has had one for a few years now and it's amazing. Hit sensitivity is on point and has remained that way
I really like the cymbals and module. Im considering using these cymbals and modules with an A2E shell.
Hey man, after 3 years of this video it is still valid and very useful! Knowing that today the Yamaha DTX6K3-X is $200 more expensive than the Roland TD-17KVX2, which of the two models do you think is worth buying? I'm dying of indecision 😵. I heard that the Yamaha sounds better and that the module is a little better too, but I don't know if the small pads are comfortable. I don't have any local stores in my area to try them 😔
Its a preference but i love this Yamaha kit. Just got it 2 weeks ago and its amazing. And use sweetwater sounds to order it. Most music stores dont have this on display to try. Its mostly roland simmons and alesis.
Great review, thank you!
Looks like an awesome upgrade to the DTX542K-SW that I used to own. Maybe I will get one😀
New format looks great, also awesome to see you rocking double kick
Your playing has vastly improved (opening). Nice job!
wow nice review. the quality of your videos are very good. great drumming also. This Yamaha kit is one I am considering. Have you had any experience with the 2box speedlight kit?
This will replace my DTXplorer. I'd love to be able to afford a top end Roland but that's a pipe dream. This seems like a nice middle ground. Shame the pads are a bit small but you always have to compromise. My neighbours will love how much quieter those pads are. Shame you don't have the same level of rotation on the toms.
Some think it sounds bad but if you watch TD50 demos they sound no better than this. So you can get a kit for under $2000 that sounds just as good as a kit thats $10,500 and the kit is getting bashed!?!? Also with all the sampling and effects in the module you could get a much better sound than the TD50. Yamaha just went in and sampled real drums. I sat down at a TD17 and this kit about 2 months ago and the sound of the drums in the Yamaha kit absolutely wiped the floor with the TD17. But. None of this matters because Superior Drummer 3 exists lol
About the pad sizes being incongruent with a modern drum set of this price, you're not WRONG, but they had different priorities. Instread of giving us bigger pads with a cheaper module, they gave us an expensive module with small pads. To ME, that's much more important. The most important part of the kit is there, and we can just slowly upgrade to bigger pads over time. I think Yamaha made exactly the right choice.
I had a Yamaha DTX582 for a couple of months. I did like the pads, but the sounds were just not great imho. Especially the Toms sounded artificial and just too processed for my liking and it unfortunately seems to be the same here. Definitely not for me so I will probably look at either Efnote or ATV when the time comes to get an electronic set again. Plus, lie you mentioned multiple times, those pads are tiny, my practice pad is larger than the snare :D
Nice versatile module.
Yeah i mean even if they made the "floor" tom 8" it would be more adequate. I just went ahead and bought a TP100 for the floor.
Yup that's the only weakness of this drumset
Definitely too small for a main gigging set but really good for a practice/portable set.
@@65Drums So true. I reached out to Simon this morning....he is being very cagey regarding any new Yamaha product...ie larger pads, more outputs and bigger internal memory. Roland big roll out last week may motivate Yamaha to push up new products. Who knows....
Your reviews are always brilliant thanks. I was so close to buying this kit. I love the new kick tower and the sounds within the module but those head sizes are so small for such an expensive kit. It is so disappointing of Yamaha to do this. Surely their XP120SD/12 inch snare and XP100T/10 inch Tom's would have created a very compelling reason to buy this set.
Great review - as always!
I am in between this kit or TD17KVX and I really want Yamaha but those micro-toms and 8inch snare holding me back.
Same here. I like the sounds and module interface more on the Yamaha. Maybe like he mentions. Get a larger snare pad and personaly I'd just replace the floor tom with the snare as I like a minimal setup.
@@jeffloucks2120 went with roland and just fyi bud, no regrets. Totally happy with it.
I'm looking at the dtx8k
just get tdx8k
Good review ,I’m still on my Dtx 950K still the best E kit out there 2021.
My dd65 Yamaha has sounds better than some on my Roland td10!😂
Great video as usual Justin!
Thanks!
I could imagine a DTX7 kit with the DTX-PRO module and the DTX760K pads but that has a MSRP: $4,399.00 and with that price it isn't going anywhere in the current market and competition maybe they will totally skip the expensive line of edrums and stay with the cheap offerings unless they can lower their prices.
Great video! I have question concerning the latency speed, does a Roland TD17 have less latency speed in comparison to this Yamaha kit?
You're totally right about the size of the pads. Yamaha needs to step things up and increase the size of the pads. Its fine for the smaller size to come with the "basic" kit but the 2 and 3 kits need to come with bigger pads. With that said, is this a real problem, especially for practice? I don't think so. I mean, yeah, I agree they should be bigger if for no other reason than at this price point, Yamaha needs to give you more. But practicing on smaller pads does have some advantage, I've found with my older Yamaha set (DTX500). For performance, yeah, they need to be bigger -- no argument there. Keep in mind that you can get a larger Yamaha snare pad, though at an extra cost. In terms of sounds, I'll take Yamaha over anyone given a similar generation. In other words, Roland and Alesis may have surpassed Yamaha given that Yamaha hasn't come out with anything new in a half-decade. But I like my 500 kit sounds over what Roland offered THEN (and to some extent, a few years later). Obviously, this is subjective, but: Yamaha makes some of the best acoustic drums in the world. They also know how to sample -- everything from drums to grand pianos. They're the best at it. Not that Roland is a slouch, they aren't; in fact, they're darn good at it. So I'll take Yamaha everything else being equal. I'm probably a year out from getting this or a similar set. I hope Yamaha has some bigger pads by then.
perfectly nailed the video.
You're getting better bro!!
Thanks man! I'm just getting better at cutting out the cringe parts ;)
@@65Drums bruh,😂😂😂 na I've been a part of the family for a while. You're getting better. You didn't suck at all but you're fine tuning. Looking forward to the comparison video too. Blessings, bruh!
Can you do a video demonstrating all of the kits, like you did with the KT4
Drum tec has a video demonstrating all the kits if you'd like to check that out.
This thing sounds amazing
I just wanna see a successor to the DTX Multi 12. Cool looking device but it's super outdated compared to what the competition is offering. Of course Justin, you know all of this. Just hoping Yamaha is reading this.😄
awesome review. i still have one question: does it have a brush mode so i can play with brushes?
I still cannot find the answer to: do Yamaha DTXTREME III pads work with Yamaha DTXPROX module? The Yamaha compatibility chart doesn't have info on it. Can you possibly enlighten me? Great channel btw. Wonderful work you're doing here.
DTX6K2-X line with the rubber tom pads and TCS snare feels way better than mesh in my opinion! I went to GC a few days ago and played on a Roland TD27 and although we know those floor models are absolutely beaten to death, I really did not like the way they felt in comparison
You nailed it with the snare size, I feel like this would be better received if it came with at least a 10 inch snare. I recently sold my Alesis Strike Pro SE after 2 ride cymbal replacements, and had my eye on this one. I considered the DTX720k for the larger pads, but it's a shame it comes with one less cymbal.
I’m undecided between this kit, the dtx8 (mesh or tcs), or the Roland TD17KVX 2. I’ve Ben undecided between these kits for several years...I’m not sure which to choose...
Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge. Definitely helped me make a super informed decision. Justin f@#*ing Rocks! Bonus...who are some of your fav drummers/musicians? Peace
Which do you prefer? This Yamaha model or Roland TD17KVX? Thanks and God bless you!🙏🙂
Maybe some time soon, you can review the Arteisa Pro Efnote 3 or 5 ... curious about your take on those. Cheers...
Love the mic!
I have the EAD10 and that app has some glitches. I don't use it.
Can you add a full sized snare pad? Is it easy to do?
Great video Justin but I was hoping you would talk about the quality of the sounds. Is it as good as the Mimic Pro? SD3?
The sounds great great, but not quite as good as the mimic because it's half the price. But that's just my take. There is zero consensus on what module sounds the best. So it's ideal to just pull up two videos of the module's you want to compare, listen to them both side by side, and figure out which you like better. Every module has its own personality and sonic pallet which can appeal to certain drummers, but not others.
@@65Drums Absolutely true. But see how you were able to still give me an answer in there without trying to sway my opinion? That's what I was looking for so thank you!
Let this year 2022 lead to the road to a million subs. Luke & share.
One of the biggest things that turns me away from this kit is the single zone toms. It is possible to switch out one of the single zone toms with an XP80 and put cowbells and woodblocks on the rim of it and use the head as the Tom?
Vh 14 review in the near future?
I can't figure out what Yamaha is up to. I still run a dtxtremeII and I was hoping to replace my pads with the cellular versions but they are outrageously expensive still. Their drum racks are terrible with all the plastic fittings. All my toms have the proper Yamaha tom arms but moving the plastic clamps around is a total pita.
I can't see why anyone would shell out nearly 2k for a set this small.
Nice review.
If you don't mind, I would like the drum sound in stereo instead of mono.
Can you do a review of Yamaha DTXplorer since its pretty old school. Also do a review of NUX drum sets
Hi Justin love your honest reviews I was wondering if you would be able too tell me if you think the 2box drum triggers would be safely compatible with the dtx-pro that would be awesome thanks.🤔🤯
Very helpful
I really want to see how the Yamaha silicon pads feel like
I recommend them, I got a bunch running into a Mimic pro, and I really like them. Not sure if the module is available on its own yet, but I have it on good authority that when it is, it'll be very well priced. I think it sounds fantastic. With a larger pad set up, I think its a serious contender.
I've been using a Bluetooth receiver with my older modules...FYI.
this kit footprint does not include the throne correct?
Correct
any alternatives that have bigger pads?
I found one issue. If you play lefty, and use headphone jack, spatial audio is off ie you hear the low Tom to the right whereas when lefty it's to left
Please make a video about sensitivity settings in this dtx pro module!
Thank you for the detailed review. I am just trying to find out if a non-yamaha cymbal is compatible with the DTX Pro Module?
we see justing slowly falling into the metalhead zone xD xD *nudge nudge*
Excellent review, just wish your sound demos were in stereo.
Is it true that there's no round robin which allows machine gun effect?
How about upgrade option of pad and cymbals for this?
Most pads from yamaha will work with this kit. So you can throw on more cymbals, or larger drum pads
mid-tier flagship? didn't know that was a thing
Even though this is a compact drum set the hi hat is the largest for this price
Hi .. quick question: I have a Roland TD 1DMK and one of my symbols is sometimes doesn’t play the sound when I hit it.. is there a way to fix that?
Thanks!
If it doesn't respond to really soft hits, lower the threshold trigger setting in the module. And make sure the cable is plugged in all the way.
@@65Drums Actually sometimes it doesn’t respond at all. Cable is all the way in and I have no clue how to lower the threshold trigger sitting in the module, it is a Roland TD1 DMK. Does it come with that option?
thankyou the eminem of rubber beats :)
Should i buy this or the Roland TD17KV?
is that a guitar fx processor or drum module? 11:50
What cable would you need to connect this kit to a mac for use in GarageBand?
Any suggestions on what amp we should get for this kit for a concert like feel and great sound?
Can I add on additional cymbal pads to this kit?