California Forever in Solano County, explained (2023)
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- čas přidán 22. 12. 2023
- After spending half a decade discreetly buying land, Flannery Associates LLC has acquired more than 50,000 acres and is ready to move on with its idea of creating a new city in Solano County. Something it's currently calling California Forever. ABC10 is looking into Flannery Associates and what it wants to do in Solano County. Here's what we know so far.
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Walkable cities are a lovely European reality for people with European sensibilities in their lives, biggest if which is 'less is more'. American sensibilities are diametrically opposed to that concept so we will forever build place that have fences, walls, places to store your consumer goods and things that attempt to impress your neighbors but ultimately bond you to debt, taxes, insurance, rent on storage and so forth. Everything everywhere is too corrupt for this project to be what the founders envision. I LOVE California and hope the less is more ideology needed to drive the walkable cities and shared outdoor spaces concept home. The challenge is that California is in America
It's a salesman pitch . Bla bla bla.
Flannery has sales people pushing their emotional preservation. Child immature behavior. Give me or I will sue, evict, bribe you to get what flannery people want. Their website site shows lots of contractors. But how many employees does Flannery/CA forev have?
This would be built over currently undeveloped land that would ruined. Walkable or not, this would create more environmental damage on the virtue of this existing.
I’d like to live in a hut which would be self built from nature with no mortgage mort mortuary mortgage, like the natives did , in nature and be free as the natives not some technocracy nightmare. Am I American or European sensible to you ? Fckn mental constructs people live in .
Beware of the wolf wearing a sheep's clothing
He’s a robot not a sheep
No water. So the cost of water will be extremely expensive.
Bring this guy in and ask him what his solutions are for existing cities like Folsom for traffic mitigation, which
our current leaders are not managing very well.
folsom is like 60 miles away and is in the foothills
Exactly, ....My Point.
What will that solve? They already have solutions to the problem but the environmentalist won’t let you achieve & the red tape
Really great job reporting and report
Great report 👍🏼
Where does "California Forever" expect to find water for this huge project? Fairfield stuck their straw into the Delta in the 1990's and they won't be able to sick in another.
Um its right along a river
@@mhxxd4 Never heard about water rights, Einstein? The Sacramento River is a dozen miles away. Solano County's last legitimate claim for Sacramento River water was a small pumping station built on Barker Slough. That was built out by 1990. Solano County has no more claims on Sacramento River water.
@@willowsloughdx ever heard of billions if dollars? Money talk and they will 10000% get a water source for their city
what does that upspeak say at 6:19 ? "renderings are quite---what?..."?
it doesn't make sense why they invest so much money on this project, smells fishy
Many investments will seem strange to folks who have no idea how money is made. Sometimes you try a new venture and score big... sometimes you lose money. But fishy? Do we really need another conspiracy theory?
@@curtisgrindahl446 No water. One needs water to survive. CA is planning to recycle sewer water to drinking water. Water is a precious commodity.
@@mayranck3817nah, the reservoir story is tied in to all this. They will get their water
@@curtisgrindahl446It’s property development, let’s not make it more difficult than what it is. And the fact that you have no reliable source of freshwater for this new “city”, coupled with the fact they paid between 5-10 times above market value for this land (that needs to be reasoned as well). So yeah it is fishy, though I wouldn’t ordinarily use that term, it’s odd.
That is basically how Walt Disney bought the land in Orlando for Disney World.
California Disney long lines and poops in rides and outdoors area.
I live in a city that would be affected by the building of this utopia, Why on earth would I as a resident of a city that is underfunded want to fund a new developmentThat would negatively impact all the communities around this development. This is what they said about Cordelia, This is what they said about American Canyon, Having someone the only has the interest on real estate and profitability is absurd.
Did anybody ever look at what they building ALL of the house in Vacaville/Fairfield area ?
How could anyone miss Travis Air force base? It's a secret. So what is the real reason to purchase land near Travis Air force base. This Kid is so full of himself. No ethics. Ex harrasing farmers to sell then turning around and sueing. Wolf in a robot clothes. All he wants and needs is for the zonging law to change to benefit him Nothing for the public.
Read my previous comment. I think I figured it out. I believe that the city proposal is actually something the DoD helped draft. It falls along the exact lines the military has discussed in their reports regarding climate resilient bases and communities as part of the 2018 national defense strategy. It’s the only thing that explains all the alleged secrecy (Newsom REALLY had no idea about this, even after it sparked national security concerns in early 2019? Yeah right), and the rest of the behavior. It sounds outlandish but if you read the various trend reports by SSI, the military, or RAND, you will notice that this type of set up - a sustainable city next to a base currently in the process of modernizing - is sort of what they call for as a solution to coming problems
@@memoryhold Interesting theory! Can you share a link or article? Interesting bec. both Garamendi and Dodd oppose this plan precisely bec. it would infringe upon Travis AFB air space limits or boundaries.
@@freeurmind5790 I’m gonna be honest, nobody is writing on this angle right now and I’m hoping to be the first one to get the story out. Whether or not I’m correct about it being a secretive DoD partnership for national security is impossible to say, but what I know for certain is that, purposeful or not, this template matches pretty good with what those reports call for. The timing is sketchy. Ill be uploading my video on my findings + an essay on it hopefully this month sometime…if I remember, I’ll comment here again to let you know
What will be the impact on wildlife that need broad areas to roam and move with the seasons? Also, what will be the impact on water? As with the Tejon Projects, this type of development pretends that people will remain in the new city. The fact is that it will draw and send out traffic as people commute to jobs outside the area.
Those who love California need to look into this project. Once the farmlands and wilderness is gone, they're gone forever. The developers are interested only in massive profits...something to keep in mind when they give the sales pitch.
And the opponents to the new city are only interested in keeping people away from their small podunk town.
Even if the Flannery group is only interested in profits, think about what that actually means. It means a lot of people want to potentially give them money to build housing in an area that needs it. Rio Vista is full of retired old people so of course they don't care about the needs of others, but the fact is there are a lot of jobs in solano county that people commute from other areas to, so it would be nice if cheaper housing close to their work was available to them.
@@stfloppy this sounds full of bribery.
@mayranck3817 nobody is paying me, I'm just sick of reading the rants of selfish old people that don't want any population growth near them because they prefer living in a small town, then trying to act like they oppose the project for more noble reasons.
@@stfloppy no water. CA is planning to recycle sewer water for drinking water. 100,000+ more people in the area? When there's no water. Water is a precious commodity. One need water to survive.
@@stfloppy Look around you like San Francisco and Sacramento the problems they have in their cities.
its a area that will need sea walls sonner or later whitch is douable
Something’s doesn’t feel right about this.and just by looking at “him”.hard pass NO ! “utopian Society” right Lol.
It's the shady way they bought up Ag land as a faceless, anonymous and wealthy consortium. They got caught, so they trotted out Sramek. But something tells me there is a foreign nat'l parent company owner somewhere up the chain. THAT's what's raising red flags for many. Other than that, I actually agree with their urban dev't plan. Esp. the walkable city part. I lived in a DC for a bit and appreciated that I can get around on foot + public transportation.
Don’t be fooled, this guy is getting his strings pulled from the top. Suing these poor farmers smh
There’s a reason Rockefeller and Rothschild-connected entities are involved in the background here
How many employees does Flannery? CaFore?
What happens if Travis AFB closes because this city is built? Remember all the military bases that closed in California. Travis will be the next one.
What does the EPA have to say? I had to pay for relocating native salamanders. Who’s going to foot the bill to relocate all the species that live on this land? And don’t you care about displacing the animals and birds that call that land their home?
They are billionaires. They don’t care
Everyone needs to watch Michael Cimino's _Heaven's Gate_ (1980) for a refresher on what happens when East Coast money acquires land west of the _Mississippi_ .
good! THAT ROAD GOING TO FAIRFEILD IS horrible.
New road, new taxes to pay for the road
Keeps homeless out.
This is still Solano county. Not a city.
Look for lawsuits from the developers when this voted down. No way they have put out millions of dollars of secret and hostile investment and advertising without a fight. When it comes to what the voters want it doesn't matter. It's how much money are they willing to spend fighting against this.
l hope they build it. Sometimes it seems like we let small minded concerns prevent progress and experimentation. Even if it is an abject failure, we will learn much from the experience and the need is real. The best part is, they are using private money so if the project goes tits up it won't cost the tax payer a dime.
When it does blow up guess who will be stuck with bills and all the cleanup and all the fallout? Solano country residents tax money.
Are you for sure about private money? Your taxes are going to be increasingly
There's no water. 100,000 people need water to survive daily.
It's a secret. So far people are being sued, evicted and bribed. Greed from corporate people .Do you want to live in that environment?
Also they disabled the comments section on their account.
I see you going to build this city claiming you don't need nothing from the county but in time you're going to see you're going to need something from the county and then you're going to steal the money that could have went into already invented cities and counties and leave that part ignore while still continuing to build money by taking money this is my concern not saying that this is a fact but it is a concern
the property is worth 230 million not 30 tech bro
worst thing to happe ever . should not be allowed. one it will cost to much to live there and wont be affordable and also you know they will complain about how loud the airforce planes are
Gotta call a spade, a spade. This sounds like a scam. People work from home now. People rarely commute like they used to.
This guy and the billionaires that he's pimping for have no credibility at all. His "vision" and his "artists' renderings" are a joke.
Ban low income housing and I’ll invest 😂
Do it
This is garbage. These resources should be put toward the existing cities in the area. There is NO shortage of unused or poorly used space in the existing surrounding developed areas. Want to throw some money around then fix up the existing cities like Vallejo, Fairfield, etc.
It’s 100% privately funded.
all cities where built from scratch san francisco?
So clean up the San Francisco and Sacramento. It's not safe in those cities. Sacramento is 2nd dirtiest city in the nation. Leave Solano county open area. The homeless will arrive then.
@@mayranck3817you're acting like Flannery is responsible for san Francisco, it's really not that easy. And on top of that reforming zoning laws and managing places people already live would be tough to do in an already existing city
Yes but this city is going to have the foundation of deceipt, manipulation, vindictiveness, and hubristic character.
Screencap this post: this is a military project. The city has national security implications, but is not the threat itself - the city is actually the mechanism to modernizing Travis AFB from the new era threats the DoD is currently attempting to mitigate on bases all over the country. It’s the American version of civil-military fusion.
I'm not understanding the opposition to this project.
Think about the people and entities who have built cities in the past? Was it always the exclusive job of governments? Clearly, no. Think about who exactly founded Vacaville, Fairfield or Suisan? Are they resisting the project because the builders are tech bros? That's just a socially constructed bias. There is no water source? The company has already paid for water rights. Non-existent sewage system? Well, how do think FF, Vacaville or Davis manage waste? Wildlife displacement and agricultural land going to waste? I've driven the length of County Road 113 many times. Bro, very few wildlife or livestock there and a small percentage of land is farmed. It's pretty much a dead zone. As to wildlife displacement, I believe everyone's thinking of the estuaries like Birds Landing etc. which is south of Hwy 12 and not part of the development plan.
It's urban sprawl. We want to see our existing developed areas fixed, not our open spaces eaten away more and more.
@@TheRoamingHazardand you’re thinking dictating how private money is spent is a good idea ?
@@TheRoamingHazard I see your point. So, how to address housing shortage without an actual sprawl? And, how is this CF plan any different from the dozen or so subdivision developments going on at the same time in Vaca right on Ag land (east of Leisure Town Road, a 2-way thoroughfare, mind you)? Look at the half dozen or so "islands" of development in the middle of nowhere Dixon deserts, w/c are built for approximately 500 families each? Was proper roadwork infrastructure required? Water source? Jobs? Walkability? Not in Dixon at least, no.
@@freeurmind5790 I'm not going to claim to be familiar with every different project but I'd guess those would share the same issues I have with the CF project. Probably more so as they probably follow the existing problematic trends, some that you mentioned. The CF project talks about how it's going to be walkable, and the jobs will be there, etc but there won't be any meaningful transit that isn't garbage to connect to the other towns nearby, we still have a lot of archaic building codes and zoning that'll prevent meaningful design, etc. The fact that they are suing land owners for not selling to them speaks volumes.
The solutions to adding more housing are complex and involve tons of different issues to create meaningful advancement. Certainly more then could ever be addressed in a comment here. Zoning needs to be reworked for starters. I feel new housing is almost always way too big now in general. This has lead to increasingly more and more sprawl. Personally I feel these larger homes have been a ruse. People get more space in the box that they don't really need at the cost of most everything else.
Oakland forever city!🤢💩🤮
It's a 15 minute city. With cars. Do you really want to carry a 20 pound dog food plus groceries for certain lengh of time. Does not sound safe. 3 story bldgs with stairs and stairs. Might fit a queen bed in bedroom.so is everyone going to lounge around in s cafe/restaurant all day. Sounds homes are on small plots of land. Taxes taxes.these are ads to chane land zoning. I smell money jingling in investors pocket while the rest are poor.
The more I hear about this, the more I want to move both my business and live there. Driving absolutely everywhere stinks, I’d love to be able to walk to have a drink or a meal without living in a large city.
Try NYC for a month