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Here's an interesting one, in that it's a really solid and catchy song that I think may have been *intentionally* lyrically off-putting: "Candyskin" by the Fire Engines, a notoriously prickly and intense Scottish dance-punk band who dropped this string-drenched singalong tune with a lyrical conceit less romantic than cheekily depraved… which fits, given that their last big song was "Get Up and Use Me", which definitely has some weird masochistic overtones. I'd call it the "Suck My Kiss" of the UK post-punk movement-and there are a few interesting parallels-save for the fact that "Candyskin" mostly makes sense and seems to be skeevy on purpose.
@@kirkhullinger1934 The thing about "Every Breath You Take" is, it was inspired by Sting being stalked by the British paparazzi after he remarried following an ugly divorce. It's very consciously creepy and unromantic and not really a love song at all.
They were never a serious band though. They were just a bunch of entitled college kids who said, f it, let's make a band. I do believe they only intended that one album, and only have that one album. On a whole, it's not good, but not horrible either.
@@davidl570 I stand corrected, they ended up having a few albums. Like I said, personally I didn't hate that album, but it most certainly is not for everyone, and I agree, Breakfast at Tiffany's was just, dumb. I was the right age to enjoy it when it came out, but now I wonder wtf I was thinking lol.
@@18FrozenAngels I guess he gave them a pass since they were a lot younger when they wrote it. Wasn’t that on their first album? I always imagined it as a cute song for a cartoon for like, 7 year olds.
I was Shocked that "Bed of Roses" didn't make this list. Something about Jon Bon telling his wife that he's sleeping with all these girls on the road but he really only loves her, gets me every time.
Well he loves his wife but is having sex with various women on the road! There is very little connection between sex and love, you can have sex with someone and have no feelings for the one way or another and on the other side you can love someone that you never have sex with! TL;DR Songs about sex are NOT love songs!
Much as I hate Bon Jovi (and that awful song), I must give credit to Jon for staying faithfully and happily married to the same wife for 30-some years.
I went to a wedding where the couple danced to hinder for there first dance. I turned to my wife and asked out loud if they had ever listened to the lyrics. Needless to say the were divorced in under 2 years.
@@feartheoutlaw293 Not "anything '80s," by any means. I don't even agree with most of Luke's tastes and I recognise that. Also all of those bands are plagued with wretched songwriting and questionable performances. 5FDP are probably the most unlistenable, frankly, but even outside of their music Ivan Moody is a wacko anti-masker and generally unpleasant human being so fuck them in general.
That's hilarious. Sounds like something my friend Loren and his wife would have done at their wedding. He is IN LOVE with Creed, he goes to see them every time they come. They're his favorite band ever. I'm pretty sure he is smart enough to not make a song about cheating his wedding song though haha
@@jevinday yeah, my buddy loves Nickelback and it is no surprise or mystery to him that they are universally hated and are not good music writers. He doesn't care and loves them but.... I love bringing it up when we are out with new people. I've seen the best faces and reactions when people hear this about this music choice.
My dad used to be in a Jimmy Buffet cover band, and they would do “Why Don’t We Get Drunk”. One time, his mom was visiting and went to see him perform. The band was considering doing the song, but my dad was hesitant since his mom was there. My grandmother then said very loudly in front of everyone that it was my grandfather’s favorite song. They played it. God bless you, Grandma!
There's definitely something odd about guys in their 40s writing songs for teenagers. Shouldn't artists grow and mature as they age in terms of their material?
That Warrant song left a bad taste in my mouth, especially knowing where it brought Jani Lane to. He's much more than "that Cherry Pie guy" and no one hates that song (that was clearly made to cater to the then-zeitgeist) more than Jani himself. It gave him a good amount of money and fame, but also took more than he ever get. R.I.P.
Agreed. Uncle Tom's Cabin is one of my favorite songs ever. I've always felt like that *should've* been the big hit and it's heart wrenching knowing that if that had been the big hit instead of Cherry Pie, Jani might still be with us today. 😢
@@mrcnub There a couple of interviews out there where Jani explained that he DIDN'T hate the SONG itself. He hated the fact that out of all the much better songs he wrote that it's the one most remembered by everyone. He actually called it a fun song and he was glad people liked it, he was just so disappointed that it overshadowed everything else.
Zeitgeist...check out the big brain on Brett! Might I...I have a bite of that tasty Big Kahuna burger? If you wear tight leather, sport boohoo hair and sing about cherry pie...well you might as well fight the cannibal pedophiles along with Pubio and DeSatan. Got your Scamtera tix?
Seeing Hinder, I'm reminded of why I'm grateful that, in all of my years playing bass in various bands, I was never part of an act where the lead singer had bras hanging off of the mic stand.
If you really think about it, John Mayer was to mid 2000s high school girls what Jesse McCartney was to mid 2000s middle school girls, not because they had similar styles, because they obviously don’t, but because they had the same appeal
@@knightwing5169 Doesn't mean he had to record it. I wouldn't want to record or publish anything that I wrote when I was middle or high school age. He shouldn't have either. Especially not that song.
@@monstermikeheinrichs Makes sense, but there's a couple of exceptions that I'm glad saw the light of day: Greg Lake wrote Lucky Man at age 14 and Paul McCartney wrote When I'm 64 at age 12.
I remember once my dad told me, unprompted, when he was a teen in the 80's he thought Poison were posers. I think about it every time Poison is brought up lmao
@@ConvincingPeople I don't think my dad initially liked hair metal. He was more into stuff like Iron Maiden as a teen. I think he warmed up to Poison as he got older but he doesn't love them.
I have bad memories with Poison one of my neighbours used to blast the crap out of Unskinny Bop and I hated it so much along with some Kid Rock thrown in 🙃 so yeah I think poison are one of the worst bands of the 80s and Brett Michaels is one of the worst singers I’ve ever heard!
I'm not a native English speaker, but even with my approximative English back then, I kinda knew that the lyrics of Suck My Kiss were errrr... dubious. As you've said, the title was a dead give away. As a French Canadian, I deeply apologize for Simple Plan.
and, years after, they were in france (style, we are a great world wide band , be happy, we are with you now). as french, i don't accept your apology!!!
As a Gen Z metalhead who got into Metal with Hair Metal, there many amazing power ballads that truly capture the spirit and passion of love. *These are the exceptions*
"More than words" was my sisters wedding song, 20 years ago. To be fair, English is not our first language, so we probably just heard "love you more than words" and collectively thought awww. And they are still together so, actions were shown?
Songs that become a couple's "our song" - as in, "they're playing our song" - are as individual as those couples. I've been to weddings where "Hallelujah" (the Leonard Cohen song) was the wedding song, or "Annie's Song" by John Denver. If that's the song they associate with their love, I'm not going to leap down their throats for it. Unless it's "Every Breath You Take". Come on, folks, Sting himself called that one a stalker anthem.
I mean the song’s about how love is more than just saying “I love you” and you actually need to show your s/o that you love them with your actions. If they got married I’m willing to bet that the two of them did that quite a bit.
At least Bad Girlfriend is kinda fun (guilty pleasure). If ypu want something really shitty from Theory to make you groan, check out the snoozefests Love Is Hell and Easy To Love You 😪
Yeah. As much as we clown on Theory of a Deadman for it's songwriting, Bad Girlfriend is at least catchy and melodic. As opposed to the "experimental" work of Wake Up Call or Say Nothing. The former being ironic, while the latter sums up what everyone wants to tell Theory in a nutshell.
I am VERY HAPPY that Seventeen by Winger was at least on this let, let alone number 1. I am from that generation of fandom and I thought it was gross at the time.
This list is great! I worked in a record store from 1988 to 1991 and at the peak of hair metal we compiled a list of the worst power ballads. We declared Beth and Love Hurts (our manager really hated that song) as "legacy." My pick was Bad For Each Other by Shark Island. Lyrics were along the line of that Simple Plan song listed. Keep up the good work!
As a lady, I am not upset at all with the John Mayer entry. I genuinely think this song is disgusting, and every time I hear the intro to that song I audibly screech "EEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!" So, I'm glad there are other humans out there that agree with me!
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that "Seventeen" by Winger got as popular as it did. After all, people thought "Every Breath You Take" by the Police was a love song...
Things that distracted me from Luke's voice in this video: - Bret Michaels' very awkward downpicking on that acoustic 12-string that's probably not even plugged in - The bras on Austin Winkler's mic stand - The fact that Simple Plan are still together, still making music that's obviously aimed at middle schoolers, while in their 40's - "Seventeen" by Winger is listed higher than "Would ?" by AIC on a list of the best hard rock songs
When I first heard the song "Carrie" I thought of the classic horror movie starring Sissy Spacek, which was based on an early novel by Stephen King. Talk about a misfire!
10. Poison is one of my guilty pleasures, but "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" just makes me cringe I'd rather listen to their uptempo stuff. 9. Not really a bad song, but this song is not representative of Extreme. I'd rather hear them rock. 8. RHCP doing a love song? Yeah... no. 7. If there's a single song that killed glam metal, this is probably it. It's kind of a fun listen, but don't think too hard about it. 6. Because "The Final Countdown" wasn't lame enough. BTW, I knew a girl named Carrie at the church I attended as a teen. I thought she was annoying - but not as much as this song was. 5. This is after I stopped giving a shit about current music. But looking at the lyrics you posted, I can't loathe this song enough. 4. Again, after I stopped giving a shit about current music. And the song's protagonist sounds like he deserves a good ass-beating. 3. This is a love song??? REALLY???!!!! I'd probably get divorced if I wrote a song like this for my wife. 2. John Mayer needs to just shut up and play his damn guitar. 1. Hey, 17 is the age of consent in some jurisdictions (not mine, for the record)!
"I'm sorry I can't be perfect but you are perfectly perfect to me" My brain combined Perfect with Perfectly Perfect and created an even cheesier Simple Plan lyric
The Winger boys were almost 30 when they wrote Seventeen. These are some of the lyrics. : I'm only seventeen (seventeen) But I'll show you love like you've never seen She's only seventeen (seventeen) Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me... HOW DO PEOPLE NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS??!!
@@vinyllpreviews9462 Yeah, I know. I usually mention that Beatles song too. I just didn't this time because the video was about Winger. The song may have been written to their fans, but that doesn't change the fact that the lyrics are telling those teenage fans that they are old enough for the band, and it seems this entire time, very few people have had a problem with it.
I have always felt "Dirty, rotten, filthy, Stinky" at the beginning of Cherry Pie was a nod to their first album "Dirty, rotten, filthy, stinking Rich" makes more sense to me than trash talking your girl before you talk about "Swinging all night long"
I've never actually thought about the lyrics to More Than Words. When I see the video, I can't stop staring at Nuno and I lose the whole run of myself. He's just so gottdamn gaw-jus. I get what you're doing here and you are absolutely correct. They lyrics and messages are icky. I'm an older Gen X person and I despise Winger. I saw them in concert once and Kip went behind the drum kit and arranged his shirt so it looked as if it just fell open that way. I know it's petty, but that stays with me. Just so cringeworthy. I hated their show. We were there to see Kiss.
Agree. Back when this song came out I was dating a girl who loved it. I ended up breaking it off with her a couple of months later when I found out she was screwing around. I guess I shoulda saw it coming.
I feeling really embarrassed about having "Lips of an Angel" and "Bad Girlfriend" on my phone right now... To be fair, I never imagined Bad Girlfriend to possibly be a love song. And I saw Lips of an Angel as a regretful, one-that-got-away type song rather than about wanting to cheat (I guess we never really moved on). I don't love the songs, but I do still enjoy them.
I don't think Anthony Kiedis knows what a banshee actually is. He wants a woman to bang him while she's very loudly mourning a recently deceased family member of his? That's an oddly specific kink you have, Blackie, Jr. A lot of songwriters just sing random gibberish while they're trying to figure out the best riff, melody or chord progression for a song, then work on the lyrics when they have the musical side nailed down. "Yesterday" is the most famous example, Paul McCartney used "scrambled eggs - oh, how I love your legs" as lyrics while he wrote the music. I'd give Kiedis the benefit of the doubt along those lines, but he doesn't write any of the music for his band, as far as I know. He just writes lyrics, so there is no excuse for him to pump out a lot of the nonsense he has for decades now. He is the reason I never became an RHCP fan, although I like some of their music.
I spent a bit of time listening to kiddie punk like Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Blink, etc. when I got brainwashed by the Kerrang TV channel in the 00s. Then I got better.
I will always love More Than Words. Those harmonies are amazing, especially that minor second tension to perfect fifth resolution at the end of the second chorus. It’s a damn good song and I don’t care what anyone else says.
I agree, beautiful harmonies. I don't dislike it at all. I remember seeing Extreme live in London back in the 90s. They started doing MTW, and the fans singing drowned Gary Cherone out. In the end, they stopped playing and let us sing it to them.
Your lists are phenomenal. Especially the ones that make me disagree but this one was strong and on point. Also, totes agree with number two, the lyric “bubble gum tongue” put me into anaphylactic shock and I needed an epipen
My family are family friends of Kip Winger (My dad's best friend's wife was Winger's wardrobe manager at the time, so I met him a lot when I was little in the late 80's)...and even THEY knew it was messed up ...especially the "She's a Magic Mountain" part....like....duuuuuude. Love ya, Kip...but my mom even joked with him how fucking creepy it was.
the second I heard john mayer I fell out of my chair laughing my ass off! Thank you Luke this list is great and these songs all belong here but that wonderland song is brain cancer for me so hearing other people rip on it will always make me smile 😂
Neither did "I Would Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)" by Meat Loaf. And like these other two... yeah, there's so much worse. Like, may~be you can make a case for The Police belonging on that list, but Shark Week and Jailbait are so, so, SOOOOO much worse.
Not really, as it's a song meant to mock stalking, not support it. Sting himself was taken aback by how people saw it as a positive song and not a negative.
Gonna cause some eyerolls with this, but "Taking one for the team" by Simple Plan is not the worst album ever. Call it guilty pleasure all you want. That being said, f*ck "Perfectly Perfect". Awful song.
I disagree, the first 2 SP albums are genuine guilty pleasures (I mean as childish as it is, the melody for a song like Shut Up! slaps, it’s Musical Junk food at its finest imo), Taking One For The Team is just a worse version of those records, with less catchy and memorable hooks and melodies and somehow even more insipid lyrics (although I do agree with you that Farewell is a good song)
I actually agree. Taking One For The Team is either my 2nd or 3rd fav Simple Plan album. Tracks like Opinion Overload, Farewell, Nostalgic, I Refuse (and hell, even I Don't Wanna Be Sad to an extent) were pretty catchy and innocently fun tracks.
@@davchr214 thank you! I actually seriously outgrew their first two albums, but the last three actually had quite fun moments. Objectively bad yes, but hell, "Farewell" and "Nostalgic" are probably my favorites from them and I will even defend over-the-top childish moments like "Kiss me like nobody's watching", "You Suck At Love" and "Anywhere else but here" from the previous album. It's not like 30-year-olds cannot relate to those simple feelings at times. And in case you didn't know, their previous band "Reset" actually played some genuinely decent pop punk in the 90s. They were genuine teenagers at that time. Pierre wrote a rebellious adolescent pop punk song like "Let Me Go" when he was actually a teenager and then followed that up with "I'm Just A Kid" in his 20s, that's some HARDCORE selling out there ;-)
@@DucciVinci I’m in full agreement! Their first two albums are my least favs and their last three I like quite a bit more. Get Your Heart On! is my favorite of them and tracks like Can’t Keep My Hands Off You, You Suck At Love, Summer Paradise, This Song Saved My Life and several others I actually enjoy unironically. As for the TOTTT tracks, I also think “Kiss Me Like Nobody’s Watching” is a fine and fun enough song.
I always thought Body is a Wonderland was super creepy! This one, and the John Mayer song about how fathers should be good to their daughters because daughters become lovers and then mothers, etc. Ew.
John Mayer wrote Daughters about Jennifer Aniston's mom because he felt at the time like she fucked her up. So he's basically saying treat your kids right because if you don't they'll probably grow up to be an emotionally unavailable mess. Not that weird.
I grew up in the 80's and was in Highschool in the early 90's. I loved a lot of these songs but you had me cracking up. In my defense, I was a teenager. The eighties were a party but then came grunge and reality! Great job. lol
So when I was a kid, there was a commercial in HEAVY rotation for a power ballads compilation, and no less than four of these songs are burned into my memory because of that ad. This list is both accurate and painful, is what I'm getting at.
When Hinder cropped up it immediately made me think of something I overheard outside of a bar in my twenties. "It's so romantic he's talking about the lips of an angel" "Yeah it's probably not the pair you're thinking about "
Those VH1 lists were early clickbait. VH1 also included Cherry Pie and Seventeen on their Awesomely Bad lists, so they don't even know if they actually think those songs are good. They just know they were popular. 🙄
“Every rose has its thorns” and “more than words” is some of my favorite songs. I like singing them. Your body is a wonderland is yucky. I always thought so. “Bubble gum tongue” icky
Ill give Europe some props here!🤘👍😃 Over the last few years their albums have been legit, hard rock in the vein of Zeppelin and Deep Purple. Might be not everyones taste here, but the (brilliant!) cheese and pomp of the 80s hayday doesnt exist in their music now and hazznt for ages. I happened to see them live a couple of years back and thought they were great. "Walk the Earth", their last album was decent heavy rock. No Carrie in sight!😊 Enjoyed this list and commentary.
As a KISS fan, I genuinely wonder how Goin' Blind and Christine Sixteen weren't on the list--they've got all the problems of "Seventeen", but up to 11. Especially Goin' Blind--the singer's supposed to be a 90 year old man.
Going blind isn't Going Blind more about an old man regretting his past while complaining to his grandchild? But If Gene Simmons says it's a love song, I guess it does. I wouldn't be surprised if it is knowing him though...
Glad you had the hinder, I've been saying that was a terrible song for years. I agree the music is well performed in a lot of those songs but the subject matter could have been more well Crafted 🤘🏻
As someone who is a fan of Simple Plan, songs like "Perfectly Perfect" are the reason why I feel a tad embarrassed to admit I like them. It also makes entirely too much sense that the guy from the Plain White Tees co-wrote it. I hope they never work with him again.
I occasionally see The Final Countdown show up on Worst Songs Ever lists and I've never understood that because Carrie is *SO MUCH WORSE*. The Final Countdown rules, for the record, eff the haters.
@@mrcnub Agreed, it's such a fun song. So glad the 40-song, 3-disc "Rocking the 80s" CD compilation my parents gave me when I was younger has that and "Cherokee" as its Europe representation, and not "Carrie".
When “your body is a wonderland” first came out, I legit thought it was Dave Matthews because it was so bad 😂 then I saw the video and thought Dave Mathews was pulling a Milly Vanilly 🤣 😂 🤣
10:47 - They have another song on their Self Titled album, called "I Can Wait Forever". It would fit perfect in this list. It's an 80's metal song... released in 2008. 12:41 - When I first saw them I thought they were a parody band like Steel Panther. 16:20 - I believe he either wrote the song WHEN he was 14 and having sex, or ABOUT being 14 and having sex. Still creepy either way.
This is the most sincere and grateful laughs I’ve had from here ever! Because 1) glam/hair metal is awful, and 2) the Simple Plan part was spot-on! I’m a victim of liking them back in the early 00’s, but luckily developed a brain of a grown-up xD
I am honestly surprised that Bon Jovi's "If I Was Your Mother" didn't make the list. It is literally about what the title suggests, how he really wants to get intimate with a woman but she won't let him in so he ponders if she'd be more open to him touching and holding her if he were her mother. Really. That's a thing. Listen to it, question the choices that lead you to this point.
Oh lord, I almost forgot Hinder existed. They're like Oklahoma's Nickelback, without any of the endearing qualities that Chad Kroeger and company have shown over the years.
“Not a song you want to sing to your girlfriend.” My brother and his wife used Cherry Pie as the first dance at their wedding lol. I like Seventeen, but I did think the same thing. Still think it’s funny that they’re old now and still sing. One of those songs that doesn’t seem right when you’re 50 lol.
@@jenniferbond7073 It was different, that’s for sure. In the middle of the song, it cut to “Never Gonna Give You Up” by Rick Astley so it looked like they were Rick Rolled (for those that remember that). While walking down the isle, they played video game music (Zelda, and such), and played the winning battle theme from Final Fantasy when they said to kiss the bride. Definitely unique lol.
I will not defend the song Cherry Pie for obvious reasons. However, I will forgive the band for the song, beings that they were forced to write a double entendre sex song like Aerosmith's Love In An Elevator, practically overnight. So what would have been an arguably iconic album Uncle Tom's Cabin, has now become a novelty sidenote and a cherry demon Jani Lane (God Bless His Soul) just couldn't shake...
I can't really argue with your list, it's pretty accurate. I never could stand "More Than Words" by Extreme and still can't. I would've found room to throw in the god awful song "High Enough" by Damn Yankees👎
Brett Michael's left with his 80s hair?....more like left with his very very obvious wig. Ever notice how you literally never see him without either a bandana or a hat? Plus that wig is waaaay too thick and lush for the hair of a man of his age.
so does this mean that we're getting a top 10 BEST Love Songs list for Valentine's? i hope so, cause after some of these numbers, i'm more depressed than a single guy on V-Day.
I got a good laugh from this video with the explanation of the songs and while 2 of the songs i don't mind I wouldn't of used them as love songs anyway even before finding out they were supposed to be love songs. Thanks for another good video and a good chuckle and look forward to the next video
I feel like Suck My Kiss isn't really a love song. It's more like a funk sex song in the style of Funkadelic. And, I'm willing to bet George Clinton wasn't exactly writing high art lyrics on their songs either.
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Every breath you take
@@kirkhullinger1934 oh yeah, that one is fucking creepy
Stacy's Mom. I hate that song with every cell of my body.
Here's an interesting one, in that it's a really solid and catchy song that I think may have been *intentionally* lyrically off-putting: "Candyskin" by the Fire Engines, a notoriously prickly and intense Scottish dance-punk band who dropped this string-drenched singalong tune with a lyrical conceit less romantic than cheekily depraved… which fits, given that their last big song was "Get Up and Use Me", which definitely has some weird masochistic overtones. I'd call it the "Suck My Kiss" of the UK post-punk movement-and there are a few interesting parallels-save for the fact that "Candyskin" mostly makes sense and seems to be skeevy on purpose.
@@kirkhullinger1934 The thing about "Every Breath You Take" is, it was inspired by Sting being stalked by the British paparazzi after he remarried following an ugly divorce. It's very consciously creepy and unromantic and not really a love song at all.
Worst love song ever? "Breakfast at Tiffany's." "We should stay together because there is this movie we both kinda like."
One of the worst band names ever too! No surprise that song was their only hit.
They were never a serious band though. They were just a bunch of entitled college kids who said, f it, let's make a band. I do believe they only intended that one album, and only have that one album. On a whole, it's not good, but not horrible either.
@@caseysivard4070 I'm open minded, so if the album as a whole was a lot better than Breakfast (which I CAN'T STAND), maybe I'll give it a listen.
Lol, yep
@@davidl570 I stand corrected, they ended up having a few albums. Like I said, personally I didn't hate that album, but it most certainly is not for everyone, and I agree, Breakfast at Tiffany's was just, dumb. I was the right age to enjoy it when it came out, but now I wonder wtf I was thinking lol.
I see Theory in the thumbnail and I’m scared
SHE’S A BAD BAD GIRLFRIEND! (gross)
I remember thinking that was coolest song when I was in highschool. That and Porn Star Dancing.
she likes to shake her AAAAAASSSSSSS
That song and porn star dancing are my 2 biggest guilty pleasure songs I know it's dirty I know it's naughty But I really like it
It was the obvious one, so I suppose that's a dodged bullet in case there are any truly wretched deep cuts we'd all rather *not* be made aware of.
Beavis & Butthead killed Winger’s career... thank you!
Perhaps Mike Judge was ahead of his time in realising how inappropriate the lyrics were?
Mike Judge created king of the hill and killed Winger. He’s a true legend.
Greatest quote of all time: "This is Joey Buttafuoco's theme song."
Whenever I hear about this band, I immediately think of Stewart.
Fuck the haters, Winger are great. They are probably one of the best bands of the eighties and nineties.
Didn't expect that particular Simple Plan song when we have "Im a dick. Im a dick-ted to you."
Or "you still make my crazy little heart go boom"
I could have SWORN his choice would be My Alien.
@@18FrozenAngels I guess he gave them a pass since they were a lot younger when they wrote it. Wasn’t that on their first album? I always imagined it as a cute song for a cartoon for like, 7 year olds.
Nah
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She's only seventy
You ain't seen osteoporosis like this
She's only seventy
Doctor says she's too old, but she still has Medicare.
Move over, Weird Al Yankovic.
make this happen
Still? Even in her old age?
I was Shocked that "Bed of Roses" didn't make this list.
Something about Jon Bon telling his wife that he's sleeping with all these girls on the road but he really only loves her, gets me every time.
The height of romance 😂😂😂
Well he loves his wife but is having sex with various women on the road! There is very little connection between sex and love, you can have sex with someone and have no feelings for the one way or another and on the other side you can love someone that you never have sex with!
TL;DR Songs about sex are NOT love songs!
Kinda like Steel Panther's "Community Property"
Much as I hate Bon Jovi (and that awful song), I must give credit to Jon for staying faithfully and happily married to the same wife for 30-some years.
@@davidl570 If you believe that, I have some beachfront property in Arkansas to sell you :) .
I went to a wedding where the couple danced to hinder for there first dance. I turned to my wife and asked out loud if they had ever listened to the lyrics. Needless to say the were divorced in under 2 years.
@@feartheoutlaw293 well that's because those bands suck
@@feartheoutlaw293 Not "anything '80s," by any means. I don't even agree with most of Luke's tastes and I recognise that. Also all of those bands are plagued with wretched songwriting and questionable performances. 5FDP are probably the most unlistenable, frankly, but even outside of their music Ivan Moody is a wacko anti-masker and generally unpleasant human being so fuck them in general.
@@rudywilliams6538 Because somebody danced to a song by one band at their wedding? What?
That's hilarious. Sounds like something my friend Loren and his wife would have done at their wedding. He is IN LOVE with Creed, he goes to see them every time they come. They're his favorite band ever. I'm pretty sure he is smart enough to not make a song about cheating his wedding song though haha
@@jevinday yeah, my buddy loves Nickelback and it is no surprise or mystery to him that they are universally hated and are not good music writers. He doesn't care and loves them but....
I love bringing it up when we are out with new people. I've seen the best faces and reactions when people hear this about this music choice.
My dad used to be in a Jimmy Buffet cover band, and they would do “Why Don’t We Get Drunk”. One time, his mom was visiting and went to see him perform. The band was considering doing the song, but my dad was hesitant since his mom was there. My grandmother then said very loudly in front of everyone that it was my grandfather’s favorite song. They played it.
God bless you, Grandma!
There's definitely something odd about guys in their 40s writing songs for teenagers. Shouldn't artists grow and mature as they age in terms of their material?
Ask Green Day. Nah, I'm kidding. Sort of.
You mean like Bryan Adams?
Have you heard Domino by Kiss? czcams.com/video/c_fz_k8Lnqg/video.html
@@visaman no. I wouldn't personally hold him up as an example of that.
You figure they should just retire instead of writing for the majority? Plus their older fans almost certainly still like the music.
"I know I'm gonna upset a lot of ladies out there by ripping apart their heart throb"
nah. John Mayer has had it coming for WAY too long.
That Warrant song left a bad taste in my mouth, especially knowing where it brought Jani Lane to. He's much more than "that Cherry Pie guy" and no one hates that song (that was clearly made to cater to the then-zeitgeist) more than Jani himself. It gave him a good amount of money and fame, but also took more than he ever get.
R.I.P.
Agreed. Uncle Tom's Cabin is one of my favorite songs ever. I've always felt like that *should've* been the big hit and it's heart wrenching knowing that if that had been the big hit instead of Cherry Pie, Jani might still be with us today. 😢
@@mrcnub There a couple of interviews out there where Jani explained that he DIDN'T hate the SONG itself. He hated the fact that out of all the much better songs he wrote that it's the one most remembered by everyone. He actually called it a fun song and he was glad people liked it, he was just so disappointed that it overshadowed everything else.
Cherry Pie!
There have been countless unknown bands better than Warrant who never had any success at all. Cry me a river.
Zeitgeist...check out the big brain on Brett! Might I...I have a bite of that tasty Big Kahuna burger? If you wear tight leather, sport boohoo hair and sing about cherry pie...well you might as well fight the cannibal pedophiles along with Pubio and DeSatan. Got your Scamtera tix?
Seeing Hinder, I'm reminded of why I'm grateful that, in all of my years playing bass in various bands, I was never part of an act where the lead singer had bras hanging off of the mic stand.
yeah, what the crap is up with that?
If you really think about it, John Mayer was to mid 2000s high school girls what Jesse McCartney was to mid 2000s middle school girls, not because they had similar styles, because they obviously don’t, but because they had the same appeal
Daily reminder that John Mayer wrote that song when he was 14.
@@knightwing5169 Doesn't mean he had to record it. I wouldn't want to record or publish anything that I wrote when I was middle or high school age. He shouldn't have either. Especially not that song.
@@monstermikeheinrichs Fair point. IMO the song is enjoyable when I ignore the lyrics.
@@monstermikeheinrichs Makes sense, but there's a couple of exceptions that I'm glad saw the light of day: Greg Lake wrote Lucky Man at age 14 and Paul McCartney wrote When I'm 64 at age 12.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Christine Sixteen by Kiss, they one upped winger by going one year lesser.
Motley Crue takes it a step further with All In The Name Of Rock N Roll.
Yep. It's curious how Kiss and Mötley Crüe get away with singing about statutory rape, but Winger gets left holding the bag.
Everyone talks about The Stones' Brown Sugar, wait 'til they hear live versions of Stray Cat Blues.
I remember once my dad told me, unprompted, when he was a teen in the 80's he thought Poison were posers.
I think about it every time Poison is brought up lmao
My dad (RIP) was something of a music scenester when he was younger, and man, he *loathed* Poison and most of the hair bands in general.
@@ConvincingPeople I don't think my dad initially liked hair metal. He was more into stuff like Iron Maiden as a teen. I think he warmed up to Poison as he got older but he doesn't love them.
I have bad memories with Poison one of my neighbours used to blast the crap out of Unskinny Bop and I hated it so much along with some Kid Rock thrown in 🙃 so yeah I think poison are one of the worst bands of the 80s and Brett Michaels is one of the worst singers I’ve ever heard!
@@MrParkerman6 Um....I think they meant "posers" as in "fake".
I can't stand them. They are poseurs.
I'm not a native English speaker, but even with my approximative English back then, I kinda knew that the lyrics of Suck My Kiss were errrr... dubious. As you've said, the title was a dead give away. As a French Canadian, I deeply apologize for Simple Plan.
Finally, an apology. Thank you. Lol
and, years after, they were in france (style, we are a great world wide band , be happy, we are with you now). as french, i don't accept your apology!!!
Lol we accept your apology. I didn't know they were Canadian but the singer's name is Pierre so I could have guessed
And if you think Lips of an Angel couldn't get any worse I've got 2 words for you... Kidz Bop
Still not as horrible as the Kidz Bop version of Headstrong
Kidz Bop makes every song they do sound awful.
Has there been a Kidz Bop version of Butterfly by Crazy Town?
OH NO
@@billiejoeeyelash *oh no*
As a Gen Z metalhead who got into Metal with Hair Metal, there many amazing power ballads that truly capture the spirit and passion of love.
*These are the exceptions*
I'm 30 and I can't stand hair metal save for a few guitar solos, I think it's a disgrace
They begin and end with "I Remember You" by Skid Row, IMHO.
"More than words" was my sisters wedding song, 20 years ago. To be fair, English is not our first language, so we probably just heard "love you more than words" and collectively thought awww. And they are still together so, actions were shown?
Songs that become a couple's "our song" - as in, "they're playing our song" - are as individual as those couples. I've been to weddings where "Hallelujah" (the Leonard Cohen song) was the wedding song, or "Annie's Song" by John Denver. If that's the song they associate with their love, I'm not going to leap down their throats for it.
Unless it's "Every Breath You Take". Come on, folks, Sting himself called that one a stalker anthem.
@@ospero7681 Every Breath You Take = good song with creepy lyrics.
I mean the song’s about how love is more than just saying “I love you” and you actually need to show your s/o that you love them with your actions. If they got married I’m willing to bet that the two of them did that quite a bit.
At least Bad Girlfriend is kinda fun (guilty pleasure). If ypu want something really shitty from Theory to make you groan, check out the snoozefests Love Is Hell and Easy To Love You 😪
Or their entire newest record
I agree. It's a fun rock song, the only bad thing is the lyrics.
God I'll take ten hours of Bad Girlfriend over...whatever else they've done since.
Yeah.
As much as we clown on Theory of a Deadman for it's songwriting, Bad Girlfriend is at least catchy and melodic.
As opposed to the "experimental" work of Wake Up Call or Say Nothing. The former being ironic, while the latter sums up what everyone wants to tell Theory in a nutshell.
Nonononono. 'Crazy Bitch' is a guilty pleasure. 'Bad Girlfriend' is just repulsive.
I am VERY HAPPY that Seventeen by Winger was at least on this let, let alone number 1. I am from that generation of fandom and I thought it was gross at the time.
We all knew what was up, even back in the day.
No wonder Beavis and Butthead hated Winger... and also Stewart who wore a Winger shirt.
And Metallica, too.
Winger are very good.
@@GDCDGC Yeah absolutely. 👍
I remember when Hal Sparks on VH1's I Love The 90's described the lyrics of Extreme's "More Than Words" being "SHUT UP AND BLOW ME!"
Lol I remember that! 😄
This list is great! I worked in a record store from 1988 to 1991 and at the peak of hair metal we compiled a list of the worst power ballads. We declared Beth and Love Hurts (our manager really hated that song) as "legacy." My pick was Bad For Each Other by Shark Island. Lyrics were along the line of that Simple Plan song listed. Keep up the good work!
As a lady, I am not upset at all with the John Mayer entry. I genuinely think this song is disgusting, and every time I hear the intro to that song I audibly screech "EEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!" So, I'm glad there are other humans out there that agree with me!
I have a theory. The unflattering adjectives in Cherry Pie were not being used to describe the girl, but their label that pushed the song.
That actually makes more sense, as a lot of bands pull that kind of stuff when their labels tell them what to put out.
Cherry Pie was Janie Lane's least favorite song. He finished the album but the label forced him to write it
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that "Seventeen" by Winger got as popular as it did. After all, people thought "Every Breath You Take" by the Police was a love song...
Things that distracted me from Luke's voice in this video:
- Bret Michaels' very awkward downpicking on that acoustic 12-string that's probably not even plugged in
- The bras on Austin Winkler's mic stand
- The fact that Simple Plan are still together, still making music that's obviously aimed at middle schoolers, while in their 40's
- "Seventeen" by Winger is listed higher than "Would ?" by AIC on a list of the best hard rock songs
Wow..whose list was that man?
Your right. Miles away was a way better Winger song
When I first heard the song "Carrie" I thought of the classic horror movie starring Sissy Spacek, which was based on an early novel by Stephen King. Talk about a misfire!
Same here, I immediately thought of that film (especially the prom scene). It just what the name Carrie made me think of
Same here. And blood.
i always thought the song was about that carrie
Apologies if I'm late to the party, but I dig your new hairstyle. The video is great too, I just wanted to mention the hair first.
I think Crazy Bitch by Buck Cherry belongs in this list as well
It is pretty bad as a love song and now that I look back at it it's really not that great of a song in general. It's kinda just crass.
definitely
i like it lol
"Crazy bitch" is an unofficial nickname i use to make my wife laugh... so i'm sure the song is as bad as my sense of humor
Should've been top 3.
10. Poison is one of my guilty pleasures, but "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" just makes me cringe I'd rather listen to their uptempo stuff.
9. Not really a bad song, but this song is not representative of Extreme. I'd rather hear them rock.
8. RHCP doing a love song? Yeah... no.
7. If there's a single song that killed glam metal, this is probably it. It's kind of a fun listen, but don't think too hard about it.
6. Because "The Final Countdown" wasn't lame enough. BTW, I knew a girl named Carrie at the church I attended as a teen. I thought she was annoying - but not as much as this song was.
5. This is after I stopped giving a shit about current music. But looking at the lyrics you posted, I can't loathe this song enough.
4. Again, after I stopped giving a shit about current music. And the song's protagonist sounds like he deserves a good ass-beating.
3. This is a love song??? REALLY???!!!! I'd probably get divorced if I wrote a song like this for my wife.
2. John Mayer needs to just shut up and play his damn guitar.
1. Hey, 17 is the age of consent in some jurisdictions (not mine, for the record)!
"I'm sorry I can't be perfect but you are perfectly perfect to me" My brain combined Perfect with Perfectly Perfect and created an even cheesier Simple Plan lyric
Dude, I understand these are just "lists" but you are so spot on! You're opinion is very valuable to me, and I'm a huge HARD Rock fan!!!
The Winger boys were almost 30 when they wrote Seventeen. These are some of the lyrics. : I'm only seventeen (seventeen)
But I'll show you love like you've never seen
She's only seventeen (seventeen)
Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me...
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS??!!
These songs were written too their audience that was mainly teenagers.
I doubt Ringo Starr really had a 16 year old gf when he was in his 30's either.
@@vinyllpreviews9462 Yeah, I know. I usually mention that Beatles song too. I just didn't this time because the video was about Winger. The song may have been written to their fans, but that doesn't change the fact that the lyrics are telling those teenage fans that they are old enough for the band, and it seems this entire time, very few people have had a problem with it.
Probably because in most countries 17 is not under age, so it's not an issue.
@@susi-emily Yeah except they weren't from most countries, they are American, so...
@@GDCDGC lol Not all people are soft, says the pedo defending Winger hahaha
I have always felt "Dirty, rotten, filthy, Stinky" at the beginning of Cherry Pie was a nod to their first album "Dirty, rotten, filthy, stinking Rich" makes more sense to me than trash talking your girl before you talk about "Swinging all night long"
Yeah, that’s what it was
I've never actually thought about the lyrics to More Than Words. When I see the video, I can't stop staring at Nuno and I lose the whole run of myself. He's just so gottdamn gaw-jus. I get what you're doing here and you are absolutely correct. They lyrics and messages are icky. I'm an older Gen X person and I despise Winger. I saw them in concert once and Kip went behind the drum kit and arranged his shirt so it looked as if it just fell open that way. I know it's petty, but that stays with me. Just so cringeworthy. I hated their show. We were there to see Kiss.
I can't hear that song without seeing Jack Black and Jimmy Fallon doing the cover, in full makeup.
Agreed on Nuno being hot AF
@@faeriegraver I mean goddamn! He's practically perfect.
VH1 THOUGHT SEVENTEEN WAS BETTER THAN WOULD? BY AIC????
yeah, wtf is up with that?
Life ain't fair ain't it ?
I don't put much stock in VH1, or the first iteration called MTV!
Wow that's dumb. I know different people have different opinions but holy shit.
Or Bullet With Butterfly Wings?
When you ask how Simple Plan got so big, I instantly thought “Warped Tour”.
I’m so glad lips of an angel made it on the list I have hated that song for years
It's pure trash. I got invited to a wedding and the couple danced to it. Questionable to be sure
@@antoniac1234 they danced to a song about infidelity at a wedding. smdh.
@@drustanastrophel9538 Bet they're divorced now.
Agree. Back when this song came out I was dating a girl who loved it. I ended up breaking it off with her a couple of months later when I found out she was screwing around. I guess I shoulda saw it coming.
I feeling really embarrassed about having "Lips of an Angel" and "Bad Girlfriend" on my phone right now...
To be fair, I never imagined Bad Girlfriend to possibly be a love song. And I saw Lips of an Angel as a regretful, one-that-got-away type song rather than about wanting to cheat (I guess we never really moved on).
I don't love the songs, but I do still enjoy them.
And you probably forgot about them after you no longer have them as your ringtone
Bro have you ever done a 10 most scary/unsettling rock songs?
I don’t blame all those women for dumping Tyler Conolly.
"Chicka chicka dee
Do me like a banshee"
Is not poetry.
But this is
I don't think Anthony Kiedis knows what a banshee actually is. He wants a woman to bang him while she's very loudly mourning a recently deceased family member of his? That's an oddly specific kink you have, Blackie, Jr.
A lot of songwriters just sing random gibberish while they're trying to figure out the best riff, melody or chord progression for a song, then work on the lyrics when they have the musical side nailed down. "Yesterday" is the most famous example, Paul McCartney used "scrambled eggs - oh, how I love your legs" as lyrics while he wrote the music.
I'd give Kiedis the benefit of the doubt along those lines, but he doesn't write any of the music for his band, as far as I know. He just writes lyrics, so there is no excuse for him to pump out a lot of the nonsense he has for decades now. He is the reason I never became an RHCP fan, although I like some of their music.
i'm offended that Simple Plan is considered rock
To me, Simple Plan is about as "rock" as Jonas Brothers, 5SOS or other "cool boys with guitars" bands that 6 grade girls listen to.
They're pop punk/pop rock
@@henrydrummond5902 They're about as punk as Celine Dion.
I spent a bit of time listening to kiddie punk like Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Blink, etc. when I got brainwashed by the Kerrang TV channel in the 00s. Then I got better.
Simple Plan is Pop-Punk, not Rock. There's a big difference.
I will always love More Than Words. Those harmonies are amazing, especially that minor second tension to perfect fifth resolution at the end of the second chorus. It’s a damn good song and I don’t care what anyone else says.
I agree, beautiful harmonies. I don't dislike it at all. I remember seeing Extreme live in London back in the 90s. They started doing MTW, and the fans singing drowned Gary Cherone out. In the end, they stopped playing and let us sing it to them.
I think it's a great song too, not sure why it's on here other than to bag on for being a really popular love song.
@@jevindayor because it is not a good love song
I know I’m 2yrs late, but More Than Words is a breakup song
And what’s more they stripped it down before anyone else did that from the glam world
Your lists are phenomenal. Especially the ones that make me disagree but this one was strong and on point.
Also, totes agree with number two, the lyric “bubble gum tongue” put me into anaphylactic shock and I needed an epipen
My family are family friends of Kip Winger (My dad's best friend's wife was Winger's wardrobe manager at the time, so I met him a lot when I was little in the late 80's)...and even THEY knew it was messed up ...especially the "She's a Magic Mountain" part....like....duuuuuude. Love ya, Kip...but my mom even joked with him how fucking creepy it was.
Simple Plan are easily the least talented on this list.
the second I heard john mayer I fell out of my chair laughing my ass off! Thank you Luke this list is great and these songs all belong here but that wonderland song is brain cancer for me so hearing other people rip on it will always make me smile 😂
i’m surprised every breathe you take or TELL ME HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIVE WITHOUT YOU?!?!? didn’t return for this list
Neither did "I Would Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)" by Meat Loaf. And like these other two... yeah, there's so much worse. Like, may~be you can make a case for The Police belonging on that list, but Shark Week and Jailbait are so, so, SOOOOO much worse.
Every time that song comes on the radio well It's the only song by the police radio ever plays I think wow The only song where stalking is acceptable
Not really, as it's a song meant to mock stalking, not support it. Sting himself was taken aback by how people saw it as a positive song and not a negative.
Gonna cause some eyerolls with this, but "Taking one for the team" by Simple Plan is not the worst album ever. Call it guilty pleasure all you want.
That being said, f*ck "Perfectly Perfect". Awful song.
I disagree, the first 2 SP albums are genuine guilty pleasures (I mean as childish as it is, the melody for a song like Shut Up! slaps, it’s Musical Junk food at its finest imo), Taking One For The Team is just a worse version of those records, with less catchy and memorable hooks and melodies and somehow even more insipid lyrics (although I do agree with you that Farewell is a good song)
I actually agree. Taking One For The Team is either my 2nd or 3rd fav Simple Plan album. Tracks like Opinion Overload, Farewell, Nostalgic, I Refuse (and hell, even I Don't Wanna Be Sad to an extent) were pretty catchy and innocently fun tracks.
@@davchr214 thank you! I actually seriously outgrew their first two albums, but the last three actually had quite fun moments. Objectively bad yes, but hell, "Farewell" and "Nostalgic" are probably my favorites from them and I will even defend over-the-top childish moments like "Kiss me like nobody's watching", "You Suck At Love" and "Anywhere else but here" from the previous album. It's not like 30-year-olds cannot relate to those simple feelings at times.
And in case you didn't know, their previous band "Reset" actually played some genuinely decent pop punk in the 90s. They were genuine teenagers at that time. Pierre wrote a rebellious adolescent pop punk song like "Let Me Go" when he was actually a teenager and then followed that up with "I'm Just A Kid" in his 20s, that's some HARDCORE selling out there ;-)
@@DucciVinci I’m in full agreement! Their first two albums are my least favs and their last three I like quite a bit more. Get Your Heart On! is my favorite of them and tracks like Can’t Keep My Hands Off You, You Suck At Love, Summer Paradise, This Song Saved My Life and several others I actually enjoy unironically.
As for the TOTTT tracks, I also think “Kiss Me Like Nobody’s Watching” is a fine and fun enough song.
Agreed. Bad Girlfriend by Theory of a Deadman is definitely not as bad as that cheesy ass song
I always thought Body is a Wonderland was super creepy! This one, and the John Mayer song about how fathers should be good to their daughters because daughters become lovers and then mothers, etc. Ew.
I never (personally) read it that way. I can see why for some it doesn’t pass the sniff test.
John Mayer wrote Daughters about Jennifer Aniston's mom because he felt at the time like she fucked her up. So he's basically saying treat your kids right because if you don't they'll probably grow up to be an emotionally unavailable mess. Not that weird.
I grew up in the 80's and was in Highschool in the early 90's. I loved a lot of these songs but you had me cracking up. In my defense, I was a teenager. The eighties were a party but then came grunge and reality!
Great job. lol
How did Butterfly by Crazy town not make the list
@Kane Bennett except that No Doubt, Vanessa Carlton and Michelle Branch are actually good.
@@GNVS300 also the song was actually sincere, Shify wrote it for his girlfriend at the time and she even appeared in the time capsule of a music video
Butterfly is "1999 - The Song" (not the Prince one)
When Winger does 17 now he says she's only 43 or something like that
43 year old virgin?
"Chicka chicka dee/Do me like a banshee - Edgar Allan Poe"
I am deceased
I'm pretty sure that even John Mayer himself said that that song was horrible
I thought Seventeen was supposed to be a jab at rock stars who dated underage girls ( *cough* Ted Nugent *cough* )
As much as I love Ted, he should have been arrested and castrated.
Or Steven Tyler.
@@ginnrollins211 both make great rock music and bad choices. Both extremely sick freaks that needed serious punishment.
17 is underage? I thought 16 was the age of consent?
@@annamoore3129 are you joking
So when I was a kid, there was a commercial in HEAVY rotation for a power ballads compilation, and no less than four of these songs are burned into my memory because of that ad.
This list is both accurate and painful, is what I'm getting at.
When Hinder cropped up it immediately made me think of something I overheard outside of a bar in my twenties.
"It's so romantic he's talking about the lips of an angel"
"Yeah it's probably not the pair you're thinking about "
if he puts hoobastank the reason on here just as it is going viral on tiktok now, that would be very timely
@@feartheoutlaw293 oh i know, i was around don't worry. just didn't word it correctly. ;)
The fact that these songs are supposed to be "romantic" just shows how low the standards are... Being a woman is hard! XD
Cherry 🍒 pie 🥧 is actually quite tame compared to the stuff in a lot of modern hip hop and pop that actually gets played on the radio these days.
**ehm** Cardi B... **ehm**
@@martinhroch344 exactly
@@Sabundy I hate WAP with a burning passion and I don't get why everybody likes it.
@@martinhroch344 it's straight up garbage
Anything sounds tame compared to WAP 🤣
Sadly, "Cherry Pie" also ranked on that top 100 hard rock song list by VH1, and did Creed. I think those facts are enough to disqualify said list.
You shudder when you see that Seventeen ranked higher than Aqualung!!!
Those VH1 lists were early clickbait. VH1 also included Cherry Pie and Seventeen on their Awesomely Bad lists, so they don't even know if they actually think those songs are good. They just know they were popular. 🙄
I'm pretty sure the VH1 lists were voted on by viewers
What does it say about me that I love almost all the 80’s metal songs. 😂
It says that while your taste may not be popular, it's still better than any of the crap thats followed since.
I hope it include good love songs
Cherry Pie is cheesy as hell but it's damn catchy
The singer of Warrant (can't remember his name) hates that song
@@jonathanbouthillette753 Jani Lane.
He died almost ten years ago now, from acute alcohol poisoning. Literally drank himself to death.
“Every rose has its thorns” and “more than words” is some of my favorite songs. I like singing them. Your body is a wonderland is yucky. I always thought so. “Bubble gum tongue” icky
Ill give Europe some props here!🤘👍😃 Over the last few years their albums have been legit, hard rock in the vein of Zeppelin and Deep Purple. Might be not everyones taste here, but the (brilliant!) cheese and pomp of the 80s hayday doesnt exist in their music now and hazznt for ages. I happened to see them live a couple of years back and thought they were great. "Walk the Earth", their last album was decent heavy rock. No Carrie in sight!😊 Enjoyed this list and commentary.
@Rocked Thank you, I have been having an awful day and this video is just what I needed. It really picked me up so thank you.
As a KISS fan, I genuinely wonder how Goin' Blind and Christine Sixteen weren't on the list--they've got all the problems of "Seventeen", but up to 11. Especially Goin' Blind--the singer's supposed to be a 90 year old man.
Going blind isn't Going Blind more about an old man regretting his past while complaining to his grandchild? But If Gene Simmons says it's a love song, I guess it does. I wouldn't be surprised if it is knowing him though...
One word: Domino.
On a list like this there are SOOOOO many choices for worst love song. However, you were spot on for every song. Impressive.
Glad you had the hinder, I've been saying that was a terrible song for years. I agree the music is well performed in a lot of those songs but the subject matter could have been more well Crafted 🤘🏻
The Stop & Shop I used to work at played More Than Words almost non stop, so I damn near had a Vietnam-esque flashback when it popped up at number 9.
As someone who is a fan of Simple Plan, songs like "Perfectly Perfect" are the reason why I feel a tad embarrassed to admit I like them.
It also makes entirely too much sense that the guy from the Plain White Tees co-wrote it. I hope they never work with him again.
As someone who likes a good deal of Hair Metal, I can say that Carrie is extremely lame.
I grew up with hair metal and 80s pop rock and Europe is one of my favorite bands in the genre, but their ballads, including Carrie, are just...🥴.
I occasionally see The Final Countdown show up on Worst Songs Ever lists and I've never understood that because Carrie is *SO MUCH WORSE*.
The Final Countdown rules, for the record, eff the haters.
@@mrcnub Agreed, it's such a fun song.
So glad the 40-song, 3-disc "Rocking the 80s" CD compilation my parents gave me when I was younger has that and "Cherokee" as its Europe representation, and not "Carrie".
How is Carrie bad, his voice is fucking amazing
“More Than Words” was the “The Reason” of its day.
More than words is excellent "so bad it's good", it's so hokey I dig it.
@Nowherebound Gaming I mean... she’s not wrong.
When “your body is a wonderland” first came out, I legit thought it was Dave Matthews because it was so bad 😂 then I saw the video and thought Dave Mathews was pulling a Milly Vanilly 🤣 😂 🤣
C'mon, what's wrong with Dave Matthews?
10:47 - They have another song on their Self Titled album, called "I Can Wait Forever". It would fit perfect in this list. It's an 80's metal song... released in 2008.
12:41 - When I first saw them I thought they were a parody band like Steel Panther.
16:20 - I believe he either wrote the song WHEN he was 14 and having sex, or ABOUT being 14 and having sex. Still creepy either way.
I'm honestly a little surprised to not see Animals by Nickelback make the list for a lot of the same reasons Seventeen did.
Really want to see your FAVORITE Rock love songs just to complete the set! Keep up the great content!
He has that vid already. He mentions it at the beginning.
@@ConvincingPeople Found it! Thanks. Great video as always
This is the most sincere and grateful laughs I’ve had from here ever! Because 1) glam/hair metal is awful, and 2) the Simple Plan part was spot-on! I’m a victim of liking them back in the early 00’s, but luckily developed a brain of a grown-up xD
I am honestly surprised that Bon Jovi's "If I Was Your Mother" didn't make the list. It is literally about what the title suggests, how he really wants to get intimate with a woman but she won't let him in so he ponders if she'd be more open to him touching and holding her if he were her mother. Really. That's a thing. Listen to it, question the choices that lead you to this point.
Oh lord, I almost forgot Hinder existed.
They're like Oklahoma's Nickelback, without any of the endearing qualities that Chad Kroeger and company have shown over the years.
Wow I read this and found myself saying “Hey you’re right!” and honestly don’t know what to do with that lol
@@jasondennison8911 To be fair, that comparison *might* be unfair.
...To Nickelback.
hey, at least we have the flaming lips
“Not a song you want to sing to your girlfriend.”
My brother and his wife used Cherry Pie as the first dance at their wedding lol.
I like Seventeen, but I did think the same thing. Still think it’s funny that they’re old now and still sing. One of those songs that doesn’t seem right when you’re 50 lol.
It was their wedding song! Lol! Sounds like it was a wild wedding. Sounds fun! Not the typical morning wedding.
@@jenniferbond7073 It was different, that’s for sure. In the middle of the song, it cut to “Never Gonna Give You Up” by Rick Astley so it looked like they were Rick Rolled (for those that remember that). While walking down the isle, they played video game music (Zelda, and such), and played the winning battle theme from Final Fantasy when they said to kiss the bride. Definitely unique lol.
You nailed it with all of these, but more than words?! How dare you! 😂 Great video, as always!!
Extreme has done FAR better than that.
I wouldn’t know..not a hardcore fan. I love the song, but was just making a little joke..
@@paradisefoundasmr Okay, cool!
I will not defend the song Cherry Pie for obvious reasons. However, I will forgive the band for the song, beings that they were forced to write a double entendre sex song like Aerosmith's Love In An Elevator, practically overnight. So what would have been an arguably iconic album Uncle Tom's Cabin, has now become a novelty sidenote and a cherry demon Jani Lane (God Bless His Soul) just couldn't shake...
I can't really argue with your list, it's pretty accurate. I never could stand "More Than Words" by Extreme and still can't. I would've found room to throw in the god awful song "High Enough" by Damn Yankees👎
Well, love is officially dead. At least it had a good run.
Five bucks says Lips of an Angel by Hinder is on this list.
Update: I WIN!
P.S. I'm shocked that Winger song hasn't gotten them cancelled yet.
Ten for Eat You Alive by Limp Bizkit.
I can put 50 bucks on both of yours.
@@slevingarganera8375 That's Armie Hammer's favorite song.
I like that song although it has THE WORST COVER OF ALL TIME! Country to Rock works, Rock to Country 🤮
Brett Michael's left with his 80s hair?....more like left with his very very obvious wig. Ever notice how you literally never see him without either a bandana or a hat? Plus that wig is waaaay too thick and lush for the hair of a man of his age.
Even when he was in a coma in the hospital he had a bandana on. I was like, the dude is bald, nobody in a coma should be wearing a bandana.
so does this mean that we're getting a top 10 BEST Love Songs list for Valentine's? i hope so, cause after some of these numbers, i'm more depressed than a single guy on V-Day.
I got a good laugh from this video with the explanation of the songs and while 2 of the songs i don't mind I wouldn't of used them as love songs anyway even before finding out they were supposed to be love songs. Thanks for another good video and a good chuckle and look forward to the next video
I LOVE YOU! For including Wonderland and Lips of an Angel. I hate both of them with a passion. They are 'change the station NOW' songs.
AK is a dodgy lyricist at the best of times, I find it more endearing than embarrassing.
Ænima is the best love song I've ever heard
I feel like Suck My Kiss isn't really a love song. It's more like a funk sex song in the style of Funkadelic. And, I'm willing to bet George Clinton wasn't exactly writing high art lyrics on their songs either.
That SCP (God that even fits), that SCP clip you snagged made my laugh/gag.
Thanks for the visual 😬