I never thought I could look forward to watching building work and yet here I am watching you and your team.Brilliant to see a job done properly,thoughtfully and tidily
We’re Bournemouth based and literally started watching your videos 2 days ago .. Shame we didnt contact you before this job as you could of come around and quoted for us !! Great job again
I don’t even have a house yet and I still watch the videos. Just find them fun to watch mate. Well done and you do a very professional job. Would love mine done for storage if I ever get a house! 🤣
nice job the result is very clean ! I almost done a similar renovation project in my small house back home and back in the days I made plans to use that space in the bottom "corner" of the roof : custom made drawers using 'Blum' very robust accessories to do it. Never had the time to do it but the idea was quite nice, there is a lot of unused space in those corners !
There are many ways to support the roof structure so that those beams on the floor would be out of the way. All that great work with the eye sores left like that.
@@GMLondon How would you know? Using you foolish what if scerario to validate the beams left out. Do you feel all big with your youtube justice warrior comment? Where you there when they made the agreement?
These sort of jobs are for storage spaces in lofts, whilst it would look neater it would add significant cost to remove purlin supports and add in steel/ glulams. Not to mention then its more involvement and cost with building control. When all the customer would have wanted is an insulated storage space.
Fantastic job guys👍. Ill be looking at a loft conversion soon, shame I didn't come across this video when you were in Bournemouth; could have asked you for a quote. Really enjoyed the few videos I've watched.
Nice to see an electrician have all the screw slots on the sockets all go the same way! Made a big difference but do none of these people have any water tanks in their loft space?
Great video, thank you 👍🏻 my loft is exactly the same and we've considered doing exactly this since we had our water tank removed. But we also have no felt under our roof tiles. Is this still okay to put Kingspan again? I was worried about a condensation problem? Also, could you possibly do a more detailed video do you think? We'd be very grateful and interested to see it 😊
Hello Emma if the job is habitable room we would put breathable membrane on roof with dry ridge and soffit vents for ventilation. If it’s just storage soffit vents and tile vents are fine for roof to breathe. I’ve had a few requests for a more detailed video so it will happen soon
Another great video, love watching them transform. Rob, can you do timber framed houses? And if they are new builds does it effect the 10 year building guarantee?
Hello Craig thanks for watching bud. We can do timber framed houses we have done some in the past, if it’s a new build it would effect your guarantee you would need to speak with house builder
Fabulous transformation. Questions: loft hatches are notoriously skimpy and narrow and pathetically small in modern properties. Have you ever done reconstruction work on a hatch that both widens and elongates it? What I'd want, money-no-object, would be just this, then fit in an electric ladder that opens the hatch and down comes the ladder, the motor stops and allows you to then climb easily and safely up into the loft. Then of course would come the flooring as shown here and the boarding up for the 2 pitches of the roof, fabulous lighting, even power points. Can it be done and would planning permission be required? The 2nd question is: what about having the fancy, LED RECESSED lighting in the 2 bedrooms below the loft space and also for the airing cupboard and landing. The shower room here has already been transformed, but they put in a false ceiling to accommodate the recessed lighting. Fair enough. But if I wanted the original ceiling height in 2 bedrooms RETAINED, does a special recess/box not need to be fitted in the loft, BEFORE it's all sealed off so that, any electrician can then go into the loft and then into the box/recess to deal with the lower rooms' lighting, etc? I'd be interested in your feedback.
I'm just doing the exact job ,just on a tea break . I noticed you have used ,I think 5x2 across joist ,I dont believe these are high enough as I'm using 7x2 and the total height of insulation from ceiling is 270mm which li believe is minimum requirement I'm only boarding a small area for storage the rest of insulation is 400 mm toastie !
I`m a floorlayer & did a job for an Architect, who said instead of payment, he would sort plans for a loft conversion. He said `cross-bracing` isn`t adequate support across the joists to take that extra weight..........Have i been had........?
Would love a loft install recently tided mines out from previous owner the big thick bit of wood you were cutting into then hammering off about a inch is that important to run your yen’s joists off that then floor on top
Are those ceiling joists made to take weight as you dont seem to have strengthened them , you've just laid joists on top of them going the opposite direction to gain space for the insulation. I didnt think 4x2 ceiling joists were strong enough for floors?
Hello Rob, I’m interested in a loft. Can I ask if it’s possible to have a proper staircase fitted with the Eco T.R.U.S system? I’ve not seen a proper staircase in the videos.
@@builditwithrob Hi, how much does it costs just for the steal frame to be added for extra support and the wooden beams that you remove. Boarding, windows, electrical, plasterboarding side can all be completed by someone I know. It's just the floor and structure side that needs doing. Your videos are amazing.
Hey Rob...see you put the kingspan in with no felt. Is there a special one for this? Out house is old with no felt and can’t figure out if it’s ok to do like you have here or if we would need to line it first?
Great video. Just curious but before you up plasterboard didn't you need to put a vapour barrier up. Thinking about doing mine and all you here about is vapour barrier! Cheers, Gav
Hello Chris Please see our website. There is a cost calculator on there if you input the loft measurements it will give you a price Thank you ecotrus.com/
So I assume removing this supports wasn't possible without extensive structural changes and cost, which wasn't worth it for the customer who just wanted storage space?
Nice job Rob. I'm about to do mine. Was there a reason you did the cupboard framework before the Kingspan? Doesn't it make the Kingspan installation more difficult through the framing?
Yes, they should install the waterproof membrane, they also created thermal bridge installing plasterboards directly to roof rafters. Maybe it is nice to watch, but a low-quality job.
Im doing flooring in my loft and wanted to ask about the angled braces to the floor. Is there any way to remove them safely and replace them with verical ones for less of a trip hazard?
Is this possible to be done on any house? I don't have a loft per say, but is it a case of cutting a hole in my top ceiling and then doing the job? Or can this only be done on houses that already have lofts thats are accessible? Just wanted to confirm before contacting you.
Quick question for you Rob. If you are laying 200mm of top up insulation, what thickness beams are you putting down to allow flooring to be laid without impacting the insulation? Cheers!
@@builditwithrob Ah, so 200mm total insulation not 300mm? New building regs in Ireland ask for 300mm and I was thinking of putting down either 9x2 or 7x2 beams on top of the original beams then using 200mm insulation. My worry is 7 inches is a little shy of the 200mm insulation roll and then is 9x2 going to be steady enough when flooring goes on top! 🤷♂️
Nice job, would you ever not use cross supports? I moved into a house with mini loft conversion (storage) skimmed and carpet. Looking at the depth of loft hatch there’s 4inch timbers & 18mm board, partition wall in middle because of chimney, low ceiling. Think mine is strong enough for kids to play ect ?
Got a quick question about the bearers you cut here. I have the same issue in my loft, but I'm not comfortable with cutting them like you have (I'd probably take my bloody hand off!) If I attach some 2x2s to the top of the existing joists with Gorilla Glue and screws (to add extra height), then cross brace with 5x2 like you have here, is that something that will add strength? Having the 2x2s on top will mean I can board over the top of the bearers without cutting them (we have a lot of head height so not bothered about losing a bit). We also have a supporting wall below so the spans are quite short. Any advice is appreciated, cheers!
@@builditwithrob sorry Rob got another question! Our main aim for our loft is a storage with a secondary use of a cinema room with a wall mounted projector and some bean bags. Would this sort of floor be alright for occasional use for the above with two people sitting up there (so not a party room)? Thanks again!
Love watching you work, Man of many talents! Great job again 🥰
he's great on Celebrity Juice ! 👌
i realize I'm quite randomly asking but do anyone know a good website to watch new movies online?
@Roger Shepherd Try flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
@Roger Shepherd try Flixzone. Just search on google for it :)
@Roger Shepherd lately I have been using flixzone. You can find it on google :)
I never thought I could look forward to watching building work and yet here I am watching you and your team.Brilliant to see a job done properly,thoughtfully and tidily
I get tired just watching you work. You guys do amazing work and the videos are terrific. Real professionals. Thanks for posting.
Thank you appreciate it
Cant afford a loft conversion, but love watching the videos. Very relaxing and you seem like a top man!
We’re Bournemouth based and literally started watching your videos 2 days ago ..
Shame we didnt contact you before this job as you could of come around and quoted for us !!
Great job again
Another very nice loft storage space with lots of lighting so you can see very clearly were you are putting things 🤫😝😝
Beautiful loft space,well done chaps,👍👍
Bit obsessed with your videos haha
braver than me cutting those joists relying on just the blade depth to miss the cables, i would of had to of unclip them, another great video
You made fitting those windows look so easy 😂 cut the timber pull out the tiles and pop the window in…might try it next week 🤯
I don’t even have a house yet and I still watch the videos. Just find them fun to watch mate. Well done and you do a very professional job. Would love mine done for storage if I ever get a house! 🤣
Thanks Jamie appreciate it
Quality stuff mate, getting more and more tempted to do this myself, fancy doing a detailed how to on a standard 3 bed semi conversion 😂 👍🏻
I wish I had a loft that needed doing. You guys go the extra 10 miles on the work you do.👍
Thank you
Instuctions unclear. Cut all the beams in my loft, now my roof is laying flat on the second floor😉
Watching in Illinois, U.S. Love your videos!
Thank you
nice job the result is very clean !
I almost done a similar renovation project in my small house back home and back in the days I made plans to use that space in the bottom "corner" of the roof : custom made drawers using 'Blum' very robust accessories to do it. Never had the time to do it but the idea was quite nice, there is a lot of unused space in those corners !
Storage space!! Yea, right! :) Great job, work ethic, and video!
Another great job boys , need you to sort my loft out in Brighton
I would be happy too bud
You need to get Damo a new pair of trousers! He's split the arse on those ones! 😂
I know lol
There are many ways to support the roof structure so that those beams on the floor would be out of the way. All that great work with the eye sores left like that.
Maybe the customer didn't have the additional work in their budget eh genius?
@@GMLondon How would you know? Using you foolish what if scerario to validate the beams left out. Do you feel all big with your youtube justice warrior comment? Where you there when they made the agreement?
@@vladm9384 It's common sense mate. And it's Sir Justice Warrior to you!
These sort of jobs are for storage spaces in lofts, whilst it would look neater it would add significant cost to remove purlin supports and add in steel/ glulams. Not to mention then its more involvement and cost with building control. When all the customer would have wanted is an insulated storage space.
Excellent work 👏 👍 👌
Guys you’ve don’t this before 😂😂😂 outstanding work it’s great to watch 👍
❤ that’s really good I need do my
Amazing what a beautiful outcome
You guys give your trade a great reputation.
Excellent job
Love your videos. I know you are young, strong and fast as lightning, but come 10 years wearing no masks your lungs are going to be destroyed.
Gonna crack on with my own after watching your vids. You never know though. I might be calling you to rectify some high grade bodging lol 😂
Another great job. If I ever get the go-ahead to sort our loft, there's a fella round the corner with a Hummer H2 that you can go and see! :)
Thanks bud
Amazing work ethic. Love it. Great job.
Great work
Fantastic job guys👍. Ill be looking at a loft conversion soon, shame I didn't come across this video when you were in Bournemouth; could have asked you for a quote. Really enjoyed the few videos I've watched.
Love it mate nice professional jobs top blokes 👍❤
Can i just say after 45 years in construction, get knee pads on.
I was look to see if they had need pads too, I think Damo did on one day. Water on the knee is not fun, apparently 👍👌
I was thinking that also... my knees are fucked I can barely walk and I'm only 38..
Cracking job lads
Sweet job
Well done 👏 ✔ 👍
Nice work i like the feature of the chimney breast think customer could utilise it a bit and put some shelving between part thats plastered
Just come across your channel, you lads do good work between you.
Thanks keith
Simply lovleh 👌love the videos
You are making alot hits nice
well done rob
Thank you
Cant you get shut of them diagonal braces Rob an the ones you clean up would make it look mint
my thoughts exactly. any way pf removing them?
Hi Rob, great work and very inspiring indeed! May I ask, just so I can get my head around it; how much is a job like that costing please?
Just found your channel, great videos, quality job 👏
Thank you mark hope you consider subscribing 👍
Nice to see an electrician have all the screw slots on the sockets all go the same way! Made a big difference but do none of these people have any water tanks in their loft space?
they all must have Combi's 🤷♂️
@@PompeyMatt17 Ah yeah, never thought of that because we dont have one!
I love how your northern accent comes across in the video title :D
Another great video 👍
Great video, thank you 👍🏻 my loft is exactly the same and we've considered doing exactly this since we had our water tank removed. But we also have no felt under our roof tiles. Is this still okay to put Kingspan again? I was worried about a condensation problem? Also, could you possibly do a more detailed video do you think? We'd be very grateful and interested to see it 😊
Hello Emma if the job is habitable room we would put breathable membrane on roof with dry ridge and soffit vents for ventilation. If it’s just storage soffit vents and tile vents are fine for roof to breathe. I’ve had a few requests for a more detailed video so it will happen soon
Great job again lads, is 25mm insulation enough between rafters?
It keep the chill out obviously wouldn’t meet regs for a room but for storage it’s on
Another great video, love watching them transform. Rob, can you do timber framed houses? And if they are new builds does it effect the 10 year building guarantee?
Hello Craig thanks for watching bud. We can do timber framed houses we have done some in the past, if it’s a new build it would effect your guarantee you would need to speak with house builder
Thanks for the reply 👍🏻 I’ll check with the building company. A great way to add some storage.
Fancy bringing wood peckers from Leeds ,there are a few in the woods down here ,or was it your crew in digs ? . Nice work lads . A GREAT TEAM .
Looks great. Could you do that but with a staircase? Still classed as storage so no steels
If you put a staircase in it becomes an illegal room
Untreated timber on wet plaster. What could possibly go wrong?
Timber rot I hear you say!!!!
Fabulous transformation. Questions: loft hatches are notoriously skimpy and narrow and pathetically small in modern properties. Have you ever done reconstruction work on a hatch that both widens and elongates it? What I'd want, money-no-object, would be just this, then fit in an electric ladder that opens the hatch and down comes the ladder, the motor stops and allows you to then climb easily and safely up into the loft. Then of course would come the flooring as shown here and the boarding up for the 2 pitches of the roof, fabulous lighting, even power points. Can it be done and would planning permission be required? The 2nd question is: what about having the fancy, LED RECESSED lighting in the 2 bedrooms below the loft space and also for the airing cupboard and landing. The shower room here has already been transformed, but they put in a false ceiling to accommodate the recessed lighting. Fair enough. But if I wanted the original ceiling height in 2 bedrooms RETAINED, does a special recess/box not need to be fitted in the loft, BEFORE it's all sealed off so that, any electrician can then go into the loft and then into the box/recess to deal with the lower rooms' lighting, etc? I'd be interested in your feedback.
Any reason you didn't opt to use loft flooring legs?
Another one in the bag rob 👍🏻 what are people generally using these spaces as Rob as I notice most are unheated ?
Hello mate. Most of these small jobs are just storage spaces
With all those sockets?
Have a go at floor and mayby the loft hatch.
Interesting videos I’m going to have to get you guys to give me a quote at some point next year
We would be happy too
I'm just doing the exact job ,just on a tea break .
I noticed you have used ,I think 5x2 across joist ,I dont believe these are high enough as I'm using 7x2 and the total height of insulation from ceiling is 270mm which li believe is minimum requirement
I'm only boarding a small area for storage the rest of insulation is 400 mm toastie !
Hello Andre 5x2 is fine just for a bit of storage don’t put too much insulation in floor it starts to sweat and causes damp patches
Could you do a step by step video on how to fit a sky light window please
Hello bud, velux window have a multitude of videos on line
Thanks bud
I wonder how much this will cost with an extension. Thanks
I`m a floorlayer & did a job for an Architect, who said instead of payment, he would sort plans for a loft conversion. He said `cross-bracing` isn`t adequate support across the joists to take that extra weight..........Have i been had........?
Hello Chris
It’s not adequate for a habitable room, this job was only storage
does the old loft insulation not contain asbestos ??
Would love a loft install recently tided mines out from previous owner the big thick bit of wood you were cutting into then hammering off about a inch is that important to run your yen’s joists off that then floor on top
Hello David
The timber I was cutting down is to prevent bounce across joists, as we added more joists to strengthen up its ok
Would that be my height I need to build up to my loft has so much space how much is a loft conversion I allready have velux window installed
👍👍👍
Rob what size timbers for the floor joists please? Great videos keep it up 👍
Hi bud
5x2 timbers
Are those ceiling joists made to take weight as you dont seem to have strengthened them , you've just laid joists on top of them going the opposite direction to gain space for the insulation. I didnt think 4x2 ceiling joists were strong enough for floors?
Great job, do you also install new roof ventilation as the roof is being changed from a cold roof to a warm roof?
We do yes
Have you heard of dust extraction
Hello Rob, I’m interested in a loft. Can I ask if it’s possible to have a proper staircase fitted with the Eco T.R.U.S system? I’ve not seen a proper staircase in the videos.
Hello Saxon yes we install staircases into jobs usually the customer wants to finish the small works
@@builditwithrob Hi, how much does it costs just for the steal frame to be added for extra support and the wooden beams that you remove.
Boarding, windows, electrical, plasterboarding side can all be completed by someone I know. It's just the floor and structure side that needs doing.
Your videos are amazing.
NICE VIDEO , you could have popped in and given me a price .
Top job lads... what holds the kingspan in place? Is there a gap between kingspan and tiles?
Hello David the kingspan is cut tight and wedged in place, we leave a 50mm air flow gap behind
Hey Rob...see you put the kingspan in with no felt. Is there a special one for this? Out house is old with no felt and can’t figure out if it’s ok to do like you have here or if we would need to line it first?
Hello Mark if the roof has ventilation installing insulation this way is not a problem
Does joist carry the extra weight?
Hi. Great video's. Where do you source the pre-built frame and doors for the eaves cupboards? Regards Tom
Hi Tom we build them in house
Is it ok to add the rigid insulation if there isn't any roof felting under the tiles?
It depends if the roof has ventilation and can breathe
Great video. Just curious but before you up plasterboard didn't you need to put a vapour barrier up. Thinking about doing mine and all you here about is vapour barrier! Cheers, Gav
Hi Rob, what was full cost of the job in this vid? it looks exactly same as our loft space. Cheers in advance.
Hello Chris
Please see our website. There is a cost calculator on there if you input the loft measurements it will give you a price
Thank you
ecotrus.com/
They won’t give you a price, there website a a bit misleading.
So I assume removing this supports wasn't possible without extensive structural changes and cost, which wasn't worth it for the customer who just wanted storage space?
That’s correct yes
Anyway of getting rid of those supports?
Yes steels can be inserted and structural walls can be installed
What are they planning to do with the brick work? Great video mate
Customer wanted to clean it up and varnish it
Ah that will look great. Thanks for reply 👍🏼😀
Build it with Rob also your channel seems to be really hitting CZcams algorithm, you just popped up on my feed. Good luck 🤞
Nice job Rob. I'm about to do mine. Was there a reason you did the cupboard framework before the Kingspan? Doesn't it make the Kingspan installation more difficult through the framing?
Great job. How long does a job that take please ?
Hi Kev 5 days to complete bud
Is plastering the back side of the plasterboard any good? Thought it was only the Ivory side?!
Awesome work. Is there a minimum height in loft before this work can happen ?
Working in a mask is miserable but an air mover to shift the dust and fluff outside would ave it clear in no time so you'd not need the make for long.
Is there an option to just have the steel lengths across and floor boarding done pal?
Hello mate yes this can be done if you contact our office mention I sent you they will help in any way possible
Did the roof need any kind of lining before the insulation went in? Looks like it was just torching between the tiles - we've got something similar!
Yes, they should install the waterproof membrane, they also created thermal bridge installing plasterboards directly to roof rafters. Maybe it is nice to watch, but a low-quality job.
@@mmaadd09 Should they have battened the rafters out over the top of the insulation then plasterboarded?
@@Jaaammmbbbooo No, they should add another layer of the inslutation on the top of rafters , like here: czcams.com/video/DFO-asmyrP8/video.html
Im doing flooring in my loft and wanted to ask about the angled braces to the floor. Is there any way to remove them safely and replace them with verical ones for less of a trip hazard?
There is but it involves steels supporting walls and structural calcs
Is this possible to be done on any house? I don't have a loft per say, but is it a case of cutting a hole in my top ceiling and then doing the job? Or can this only be done on houses that already have lofts thats are accessible? Just wanted to confirm before contacting you.
Hello friend most homes have a loft space if you have no hatch we would have to cut an opening before quoting
Rob great vids can you use the ecotrus to make a liveable space not just storage ?
Hello Scot yes of course I’ve just done a dormer conversion in this metal system, my last video
@@builditwithrob brill I go have a butchers at that. What would something like that be ball park figure
Why do you leave those joist sticking out. Is there not away to remove and still support the roof?
Yes, but that would require steel I beams to support the roof. Then it starts getting really expensive and building control need to be involved too.
Hello mark as Ribs said yes you can remove but involves steel and building control,
Quick question for you Rob.
If you are laying 200mm of top up insulation, what thickness beams are you putting down to allow flooring to be laid without impacting the insulation? Cheers!
100mm between original floor cords then 100mm between new floor timbers
@@builditwithrob Ah, so 200mm total insulation not 300mm?
New building regs in Ireland ask for 300mm and I was thinking of putting down either 9x2 or 7x2 beams on top of the original beams then using 200mm insulation. My worry is 7 inches is a little shy of the 200mm insulation roll and then is 9x2 going to be steady enough when flooring goes on top! 🤷♂️
@@robertquinn7412 please be aware this hob is storage space and not a habitable room
@@builditwithrob hi, absolutely, apologies for the confusion. I mean osb board flooring that will be walked on for accessing stored items.
question: why did not you take out the old insulation?
Nice job, would you ever not use cross supports? I moved into a house with mini loft conversion (storage) skimmed and carpet. Looking at the depth of loft hatch there’s 4inch timbers & 18mm board, partition wall in middle because of chimney, low ceiling. Think mine is strong enough for kids to play ect ?
My thoughts exactly. Thing is though, if it's just for storage, no planning needed. Job is done to a price.
Very good job 👍 How much does it roughly cost?
Hello friend here is website link there is a cost calculator on there, input your measurements and it will give you a price
Got a quick question about the bearers you cut here. I have the same issue in my loft, but I'm not comfortable with cutting them like you have (I'd probably take my bloody hand off!) If I attach some 2x2s to the top of the existing joists with Gorilla Glue and screws (to add extra height), then cross brace with 5x2 like you have here, is that something that will add strength? Having the 2x2s on top will mean I can board over the top of the bearers without cutting them (we have a lot of head height so not bothered about losing a bit). We also have a supporting wall below so the spans are quite short. Any advice is appreciated, cheers!
Hello friend,
As long as you are using the space for storage your method should be fine. It will not be strong enough for habitable
@@builditwithrob cheers Rob, thanks for the advice. Your videos are great!
@@builditwithrob sorry Rob got another question! Our main aim for our loft is a storage with a secondary use of a cinema room with a wall mounted projector and some bean bags. Would this sort of floor be alright for occasional use for the above with two people sitting up there (so not a party room)? Thanks again!
Went your cross bracing, how far apart do you go ?
Hi i have a loft and a doormat and my builders lowered my second floor ceilings i dont seem to see you do that
Have a hot cuppa coffee lads :D