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Uncovering America's Forgotten Colony
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
- A documentary video about the New Netherland Project, where more than 18 volumes of the official archives of New Netherland have been transcribed, translated, and published to date, this thirty-minute video provides some historical background about New Netherland and its documentary evidence. It explains the importance of using documentary evidence, makes clear why these documents are unique and important, relates the journey the documents took from 1674 to the present, gives examples of the fascinating information found in these early records, and dispels some of the misinterpretations of the Dutch in sources such as literature, history books, and social history.
Thank you for this amazing documentary. I was born on Manhattan Island and I just love hearing the story of my beautiful city. Thank you also for presenting this seed community which reflects the cosmopolitan nature of NY to this day. And finally, thank you for the brilliant difficult work of translating this early written history of New Netherlands. Wonderful, amazing work Dr. Gehring and Dr. Venema!!!!!
The Dutch of that 17th Century period came up with a Document that we here in The Netherlands call the 'Plakkaat van Verlatinghe;' it was the first ever 'Declaration of Independence' the world had ever seen. This Plakkaat van Verlatinghe was the inspiration for the American Founding Fathers to write their Declaration of Independence.
So glad this is being researched. My 7th GGF, Tomys Swartwout was part of a group of 4 who were the first traders of tabacco from New Netherland to The Netherlands. He named the midwout neighborhood in Brooklyn. My 5th great uncle Jacobus Swarthout was a General under Washington. And I have a list of around 150 of my ancestors that fought in the American revolution. I am very proud of the part my mother's family played in the history of the country, and the Dutch colonies. Thank you!!
Wow, that's some interesting history. Do you still have a Dutch surname?
11:09. Sorry.. the WIC was not involved in Indonesia. That was the terrain of the East India Company (VOC).
Tristan van Oosten, mr. Gehrig doesn’t mention Indonesia, he mentions the easternmost outposts of southeastern Asia, where the WIC traded on the eastern parts of New Guinea. According to the charter of 1621 the West Indies Company could trade westwards from Cape Good Hope until the Tropic of Cancer.
the paintings and drawings are amazing to see
Hele mooie documentaire dit,ik vreet dit op als zoet/ zoute drop, die geschiedenis verhalen, thanks voor de upload
Thank you “Charlie” for meticulously unveiling the story of the lost world of New Amsterdam
Thank you for a well-researched 45 minute video that you have produced. I will share it with others...
Douglas Scott Treado, Edenton, NC
It’s 32 minutes
Will share once again with the family.. Thanks for this video and the work the New Netherland Institute does.
Van Etten/ Natta Family Do you have still family in Holland, I was long time working with a van Etten he was coming from Beverwijk in the Netherlands. Beverwijk what's now Albany in the USA
It is true that New Amsterdam was conquered by the Englishin the second Anglo-Dutch war. But on their part the Dutch conquered Surinam from the English, a country that was seen as much more valuable of the time because of plentyful resources. At the end of the war, the peace agreements included the 'trade' between New-Amsterdam and Surinam.
Ten years later, the Dutch even regained control of New-Amsterdam on the English in the third Anglo-Dutch war. The Dutch unfortunately didn't really know what to do with it as it had still minor value at the time (no valuable trading commodities nearby). The settlement was then used in another peace brokerage, and then handed back over to the English. So actually the English didn't really conquer New-Amsterdam, it was more or less handed to them by the Dutch.
Edit: Which is the way it's explained in Dutch history books ;)
Dutch Commercials ,this is exactly what i've had read..😊
Aural the Time English would have taken it either way the Dutch still lost it
Wolfert Guiretts Van Couwenhoven is my great grandfather. The head settler of New Amersfoot (Long Island).
i live in long island lmao
He probably knew my 7th GGF, Tomys Swartwoud. He was one of the first guys to trade tabacco with the American Indian tribes.
Amersvoort, a voort is a place in a river where you can wade through, the amer is a river in the netherlands, the town of Amersfoort in in Utrecht province. voort with an o like as in got
Any idea how Couwenhoven became Conover? It's probably one the worst corruptions of a name next to Du Sauchoy which is now Dissoway.
Howdy cousin! One of those heritage sites has me listed as a 10th gen GGS 😁
Not mentioned is that the first two ships of settlers were from Amsterdam but were French Huguenots who had left France for the safety of the Netherlands...the first ship was the EENDRACHT which left Amsterdam the end of Jan 1624 arriving at the tip of Manhattan Island the end of March 1624. Most of the Huguenots sailed up the Hudson to Ft Orange but moved back to Manhattan Island within a year. The second ship was NIEUW NEDERLAND and sailed from Amsterdam about the time the first ship arrived in the new world....end of March 1624 and and arriving two months later. Only four names have been confirmed to be on both ships..MONFOORT and and Rapalje.....I emphasize the Monfoort name as that is my direct ancestor. The second ship had Vigne and duTrieux on board....estimated about 30 families on each ship to form the first Dutch Colony at Nieuw Amsterdam.
Barbara Whiteside, sorry but not true, they came from Leiden, and left via Delftshaven, to gather in Plymouth England, where they set sail to leave for America on the Mayflower in 1620.
nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayflower_(schip,_1609)?wprov=sfti1
My ancestors, the DuChesne and DuTrieyx families were French, moved to Tthe Netherlands, and are listed as passengers on the New Netherlands ship. One side were Walloons, the other Huguenots.
Why are they skipped over and Stuyvesant is given credit. Dutrieux had the first residential dwelling.
@@nvdb-77 DIfferent group that went to Plymouth.....the first settlers in what is now NYC were from Amsterdam, prior to that they were in Valenciennes, France....as for the Mayflower, The Plymouth Colony Archive Project says
"The leadership and driving force of the emigration lay with the adult members of the Scrooby congregation from Leiden, Holland. They were part of a group of Separatists who had fled persecution in England to live in Holland in 1608, finally settling in Leiden in 1610. Scrooby is a little village in Nottinghamshire, about fifty miles south of the walled city of York, and the congregation there had attracted many Separatists." The ones arriving in NIEUW AMSTERDAM in 1624 were for the most part, were originally from France, around Valenciennes, who went to Amsterdam and answered the call for settlers in the new world. They were French Huguenots and considered to be Walloon from the location they came from that is now part of Belgium. They are not the same as those on the Mayflower ......the Mayflower passengers were English.
@@katydinkle , at least the last part is not entirely the case. The passengers on the Mayflower were a mix of English and Dutch. Or better they were probably largely all Huegenots. Because my relative, who came with the Mayflower to the New World, was Esther Mahieu, a Huegenot who was born in England, but her parents were originally from Lille (France, in those days Belgium). They lived and prospered in Canterbury, but because they were doing too well, (they were specialised in weaving) the original english population got envious, and they had to flee to the Netherlands. They fled to Leiden and stayed there for 12 years, and fled again because (among other reasons) the 80-year war was about to start again.
@@katydinkle ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Cooke?wprov=sfti1
very interesting, greetings from Amsterdam
Big thanks to Mister Gehring!!
wow, wow....A whole lots of years ignored between the settlement of New Netherland and the American revolution. My ancestor, Philippe du Trieux, was a French Walloon who arrived in 1624. Funny how 125+ years if history gets erased or altered
There is this phrase 'to the victor belongs the spoils', that includes history, or rather the way it is told.
It wasn't until the 1960's that people in NYC began
to join forces to preserve historic buildings from
demolition by real estate developers.
The first well-known effort was people attempting
to save the Pennsylvania RR station, a Beaux-Arts
structure (1910) built by McKim, Mead and White
(inspired by the baths of Caracalla) That effort
failed, but many later efforts succeeded; including
the effort by citizens to prevent a highway cutting
through historic, lower Manhattan Island.
@@Paul_C "History is written by the victors."
Thank you for this.
Fascinating!
Wonderful, thank you
Are their any further publications of the ongoing work?
Awesome!
lol actually the English traded New York for Surinam and after the Dutch retook it in 1673 they bought it again for some spice islands. Also only from 1700 onwards is there actually a British Empire. ( Ps thats after the Dutch invaded England )
I’ve had ancestors from Perth Amboy, NJ around the 1650s, anybody know much on Perth Amboy?
There were a great many colonies in America. New Netherland is but one. In Massachusetts alone there were at least five. Most of the colonies ceased existing prior to the revolution either by being evicted by someone else or being absorbed into another colony or in the case of Roanoke, completely disappearing. And that doesn't even include all the minor settlements and temporary places not significant enough to call a colony like the dozens of Spanish Missions in La Florida during the first Spanish period or the various trading posts in the coastal areas of the North East.
fica muito lugar comum so se fala nisso sociedade diversa mas ny emergiu com uma cultura angla bem definida depois e organizada isso que atraiu os tardios do ultimo auge que alias tinha um padrão intra ocidental dai o sucesso
Why did you skip totally over Kieft and his war?
Are there books and other sources that compare 17th century Dutch lexicon and grammar with modern Dutch?
used to be Dutch children learned some ancient Dutch language in high school as part of their mandatory Dutch language classes. Not sure what they're doing now, been 35 years ago for me since I had those lessons :)
@John I learned medieval Dutch in high school in the 1980s...
there is a dictionary of all dutch words even..including old dutch..
biggest dictionary in the world..
Did anyone else have ancestors who live New Netherlands? I do! 😀
Yes, my 10th great grandfather was Wolfert Gerritse van Couwenhoven
@@LarryLane07 wait... wtf is The Gemini Guy ur relative or alt
10 procent usa is from the NL
Bruce Springsteen
All of my ancestors lived here before the Netherlands colony but they don't tell you is that Dutch people were here In the early 1400s Well they kind of try to apply this in the video but they don't really say it and some of us actually lived in Canada some of the Dutch people with my Mohawk ancestors and we moved down into the area that became new Netherlands Dutch people have been in America for a long time Our ancestors actually settled a lot of places around the world and we settled in peace If you look through history we settled in peace and we made very diverse cultures and cities and stuff but they don't like to teach that in schools because it doesn't fit the narrative that America was having peacefulness going on with European peoples that weren't English and British and Spaniards that were getting along with the natives If they let people know that it would destroy their whole narrative of history
engraçado que nós ex colonias da holanda sentimos muito mais falta do auge daquela civilização do que as colonias tardias e a propria ex metropole kk
How much of this old Dutch is really Frisian...??? My Pake is from Friesland.
Some Frisian settled in Kent & Flanders....forget the years. The Kent-Frisian return to NL when the Anglo-Saxon Wars began in in England.
My furthest paternal ancestor from New Netherland was actually East Frisian.
Dear Katrina, Frisian didn't form itself as an independent language until the 19th century. The 2 languages are a like and in other Dutch dialects you find a lot of firsian words. I think the question should be..how much old Dutch is in the present day firsian language?
Peter Stuyvesant came from Wolvega in Friesland, my birth place. My grandmother was a Bleecker. I am convinced Jan Janse Bleecker was a distant relative. Many of my Bleecker ancestors were sailors and "musketeers" in the VOC/WIC. The Bleecker family originated in east Groningen in the 1500s. Jan Janse supposedly came from Meppel. By the 1600s most Bleeckers were in/around Sneek. Half of my Bleecker aunts and uncles emigrated to Toronto after WWII. I lived in New York for 15 years before getting kicked out for "stealing jobs from Americans".
16:44 😬
there was no conquest. new amsterdam, as it was first called was just a piece of real estate trade between the the duch and english crowns. it was renamed new york because the english kings brother was at the time duke of york.
Go and do some basic research!
Maybe if you were paying attention you would've heard they mentioned this around the 14 minute mark
Maybe you should do your research a little better and actually wash the video New Amsterdam was different than new Netherlands This video has nothing to do with New Amsterdam it's about noon Netherlands which consisted of Albany all the way down to Delaware
Anyone else here for 8th grade history class?
I am
im in 7th grade history class
Wrong . Philadelphia was founded in 1682. The British occupied new Amsterdam in 1665. In 1682 New York was English already dude
They wanted religious freedom
Bought from the indians, than sold to the english, with a profit..., for Surinam. The English didn't as much take it, as traded it..
'Stuyvertson'? It's 'Stuy-ve-sant" for Christ's sake. He's not even trying.
these yanks are kind of lazy by nature, they don't know any language..
English? I believe you mean British
In those days it was English.
@@jabujolly9020 Yep, and both the Irish and Scottish weren't enslaved.
Multi cultural?? You mean multiple religions. A difference
No multicultural multicultural means very diverse Many different cultures Did you even watch the video or you just running your damn mouth
Stuive- zand...not stuffit stunt... do your home work please..
Not "Indians" but "Native Americans".
Native Americans is a stupid word. Anyone born in America is a Native American which is why I won't use the word. Aboriginal American would make more sense but until that comes into common usage I'll call them American Indians.
who lived in a colony started by the West Indian Company...I guess they should have called it the Native Americans Company... lol....this is history..try to see it as such..
@@jabujolly9020No you're not a Native American You need to be part of my culture to be a Native American and live in the Americas for thousands of years your ancestors had two of your ancestors haven't lived here thousands of years so you're not a Native American or indigenous person to hear You're just an American
All thirteen British Colonies? This dumbass needs to re read his history. There were FIFTEEN British colonies, with thirteen establishing independence from the British Crown. The other two colonies of East Florida and West Florida would remain under British control for another twenty years until King George II sold it to the Spain to pay for his war against the French.
Check yourself before disparaging others. Yes, Great Britain colonized Florida, which remained loyal during the American Revolution. Great Britain, however, gave up Florida to Spain in the Treaty of Paris ending the war. In 1819, the Adama-Onis treaty saw Spain abadon its claim over Florida to the U.S. because it couldn't afford to send settlers.