PBA 60th Anniversary Most Memorable Moments
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- In 1995, Randy Pedersen lost the Touring Players Championship to veteran Ernie Schlegel when, needing a strike on the first ball of the 10th frame to win, Pedersen left an 8 pin on what appeared to be a perfect pocket shot.
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After over 20 years, that shot is STILL a heartbreaker.
Maestro Warren L. Gilmore
Pure 💔
I hate Randy but I love watching the stone 8 or 8 pin tap over and over again. Randy is a foul-mouthed fuck and illiterate twat an insult to both announcing and bowling.
@@302efi He's that bad ???
@@parkerbohnn He's that bad ????
why? He needs to split the 8 and 9 to get a strike.
I remember when a bowling event had this much energy. So much more fun back then. That 8-pin still haunts Randy Pederson to this day.
The grim reaper got him.
If I was in Schlegel's shoes, I would have shared a long hug with Randy and offered words of encouragement to him. I wouldn't have jumped up and down and acted like a jerk.
Yeah and then hand Randy a participation trophy while your at it..... Trust me, Randy didnt want to here any pandering sympathy or pity in that moment.. He wanted to be left alone.
Yeah no. Let the winner do what he wants
What’s the difference between poor sportsmanship for winning a title and getting excited for celebrating in a good way where afterwards you shake hands?
Muhammad Ali?!?!! Seriously? Ernie isn't even top 50 greatest of all time. Earl Anthony is the Muhammad Ali of bowling.
TransientClassic I think it’s Pete Weber
WRWJ I'd say
It's earl Anthony 1st, and dick Weber 2nd
Or Maybe Norm Duke.
Or Belmo for the current time right now
This is one of the greatest matches in PBA history.
Ernie was thee man!
A lot of people don't seem to know Ernie Schlegel's personality and past. This was a great moment for a bowling hustler.
Fuck ernie schlegel, he wasnt even close to being ALI of bowling like he claimed. He was trash.
Schlegel is a cry baby prick!! I love the shows when he thought he was gonna win & another bowler D’s him!! up!! 😂😂😂😂
One of the most memorable and also one of the most heartbreaking even after so many years.
Ol Ernie was a bowling hustler at heart still. I remember Earl Anthony actually saying that about him on some NBC bowling broadcast. Just that old school, hustler grit and shit talk. Earl loved Ernie. Probably because Earl was as square as they came and Ernie was the complete opposite. Love revisiting the old bowling telecasts.
Schlegel is drunk as a skunk to be fair Peterson trip the two pin on the first frame but still what a horrible break
Im not sure if this was a real life match or from a movie. All the energy in this match was so incredible...I don't believe it!
This was real emotion and passion for the game...
*I DON'T BA-LIEVE IT*
*I DON'T BA-LIEVE IT*
*I DON'T BA-LIEVE IT*
*I DON'T BA-LIEVE IT*
Randy Miller III unbelievable
For the old people!
I am the Greatest !
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 MUHAMMAD ALI!
Still the worst display of sportsmanship, I don't believe it!
Ernie Schlegel for president 2020.
Yeah that was poor class of sportsmanship
Agreed. He’s not even one of the Greatest of All Time. PDW is a million times better.
@@parkerbohnn yea look at the who people cast their votes on these days. Chump 1 or Chump 2?
Today Randy is a washed up bum and the worst commentator in TV history. Remember the time Randy lost his tour card and blamed it on some guy in the audience? That's one of my favorite youtube videos.
Also a most memorable worst sportsmanship moment.
But in Ernie's defense; Randy is a jerk most of the time.
@@Recon-cv1fe randy will smack talk you while youre on the approach ready to make a shot. hes done it plenty of times.
Only in bowling do people say stuff like this. If the opposing team misses a game winning shot, your team is gonna celebrate. Stoicism is dead, let people be happy
Ernie Schelgel took a lot of flak for his reaction. I'm going defend Ernie from this aspect. It was the biggest win of Ernie's career. It was his only major championship. It's $40,000 to the winner and a three year exemption. Randy Pedersen got the worst break in the world. A solid eight pin on the last ball. Ernie was stunned and shocked that he left the eight pin. He thought he lost the tournament. Ernie went from stunned and shocked to jubilant. He could not believe he won. I'm cutting him some slack on this one.
Yeah, it was over the top, but it was a genuine reaction of shock, happiness and jubilation. Certainly one of the greatest bowling moments ever.
Ernie also won the 1996 ABC/USBC Masters too when it comes to major victories. This TPC victory though was definitely the most memorable by far.
@@BowlerGuy Be honest, are you a bot?
@@JonHop1 Hi. Past me was bad, the comment was from 2 years ago. I deleted my comment. I am not a bot
The dude called himself Muhammad Ali...nah dude gets no slack from me 😂
This just never gets old lol
That's just sad every time I see it
Y'all did my man Randy dirty with this one
To the people who think Ernie should've gotten away with his reaction: I will have disagree with your thoughts on why it was "okay" for him to react the way he did.
No one else except Pete Weber has reacted so immaturely.
And yes, this win was very important to him, but he should not have gotten out of his chair, shouted "I don’t believe it" three times before jumping up and down like a 5 year old, shouted "For the old people," and then shouting "Muhammad Ali." He could’ve reacted like someone of his age.
You gotta realize he started out as a bowling hustler, and this was the biggest non-major title he won. Even though he went legit decades ago, he never got rid of that hustler mentality. Still, I DO agree the celebration was a tad much.
@@Renville80 Yeah, I know that he was a hustler. It doesn't help his case. But remember: If bets were placed on him to win, and he LOST, people would get HURT by other members of the group he was in.
@@NateCraven318 true that. Guess we just have different perspectives.
If Weber did this, I don’t think it would have been as big of a deal simply because Weber is one of the greatest. And he’s known for stuff like this.
I totally agree.
That was a very good shot by randy pedersen
Everyone at the time liked Ernie and hated Randy. Things are still the same today. Ernie was the tours iron man and a credit to the sport of bowling itself. Randy is an insult to both bowling and announcing.
@@parkerbohnn Okay, while I respect your thoughts, I will have to share my thoughts on Ernie's reaction. No one except Pete Weber, maybe, has reacted so immaturely.
And yes, this win was very important to Ernie, but he should not have gotten out of his chair, shouted "I don’t believe it" three times before jumping up and down like a 5-year-old, and shouting "For the old people" and "Muhammad Ali." He could’ve reacted like someone his age.
How would you feel if you were lying down in defeat as your competitor rubbed it in so much?
Yes, Randy had subtle ways of getting under other players' skin, but Ernie's reaction was over the top and showed little class/respect to Randy. Sportsmanship is expected at a high standard in bowling.
I know Randy was jacked up and BOTH of them were in the wrong, but I lost so much respect for Ernie when I first saw this.
TonyTheCat1. Don’t forget Sean Rash, he yells like a kid. Like during the Bottlegate in 2011, the 2019 PBA Playoffs (Round of 16) with his opponent Kyle Sherman, his victory in the 2007 USBC Masters and I laughed cause he REALLY yells like a kid and his victory in the 2012 PBA T.O.C. which gave me (or almost) an earrape lol. I don’t hate him (except his 2011-2012 WSOB Season and 2019 PBA Lubbock), he’s one of my favorites but not anymore cause he left Brunswick but I’m impressed his performance is better with 900 Global.
Fuck the Ernie haters, you all just want bowling to be a gentleman's sport instead of modernizing it.
@@NateCraven318 and when was Pete Weber the biggest baby in the crowd? The only thing he's ever said questionable is "back to the plantation, Billy Boy" to Billy Oatman, but it doesn't mean he's racist like some woke audience members claim.
WRW Jr says "I try to convey a positive message on television, Pete Weber is the opposite" but most people who meet the two will attest to the opposite in real life.
Man I would put this higher.
Ernie getting all of those boos from the crowd is what got me.
Even at this year's 2023 TOC in Akron, Pedersen still gets teased on air about that 8 pin.
Not a big Pederson fan but that was some bad luck. Sometimes this game just isn't fair.
he went on to lead the Erie, PA final round and lot to Bob Learn. He went from 5-0 as the #1 seed to 5-2 real quick.
Schlegel with the pete weber vibes. Classless
Read the book on Schlegel by Gianmarc Manzione. A lot of this gets explained, especially Ernie's reaction after the stone ocho.
How about you just tell us what it is instead of trying to hawk a mediocre bowling book?
still need these answers bro i ain’t bout to get the damn book
Tell them Ernie one for us old people. That is why it is called competition you hit nine you get nine. That is why there is two shots.
If Schlegel woulda reacted the way Weber did to Ballard dumping his last ball in the channel, that woulda been good sportsmanship.
You gotta remember that Schlegel got his start as a bowling hustler…
The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat was never so evident as in the 10th frame. I wish I had of been the first to shake Ernie's hand.
"Muhammad Ali" mannn you don't even have a Wikipedia page
I thought Ernie was a jerk here back then. But today I....still think he was a jerk.
Still, I sort of give him a pass because people just watch the stepladder. They don't see how much actual bowling in a tournament goes into getting to the final frame of a championship match like this. It was a career tournament for him, that he was out of position to win the way Petersen was bowling going into the 10th. And he released that ball you could tell it was perfect. So I kind of think the I lost/I won over those two seconds sent him into a spontaneous unconscious flip out. 😂
For the most part yeah. But as I've told others; Randy is a real jerk too sometimes. Look when he's announcing; he thinks he's some God of the lanes and knows everything. He's not even in the top 25 bowlers of all time. Maybe not even in the top 50. But bowling was different in those days. It was a trash-talking sport.
To this very day, it’s a rare thing for a bowler over the age of 50 to make telecasts regularly. Let alone to win. Especially at a major. Pete Weber was probably the toughest competitor over age 50 and Norm Duke was up there too. Also consider this. Ernie was mad at himself for giving Randy too many chances. And Randy gets up in the 10th and throws a GREAT shot…and leaves a solid 8 pin? To lose the match? I DON’T BELIEVE IT.
I'm not arguing that Ernie showed no class whatsoever with that reaction, but remember, he was a bowling hustler who finally went pro after he ran out of people to fleece. And finally winning a major (and netting a hefty check to go with it) after all those years? It's really no different than PDW's equally infamous "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?! I AM!!!" outburst.
Ernie Schlegel for president 2020.
Hope he gets assassinated (maybe not, but he needs to forgive Petersen, fuck's sake)
Not even one of the Greatest Bowlers
Not even close to Belmo
That was Ernie Schlegel's first major title
Andrew Phillips He'd break a record the following year as he became the oldest player to win the ABC Masters tournament
Douches win titles too
@@irishpogi the Masters is so much harder to lead. You gotta win all those 3 game matches. Ernie must have thrown a lot of strikes in that tourney. I guess I saw this and tried to forget it
@@dduval59 yeah well....
@@madpuppy54 The luck factor cannot be ignored. If you look at the three game series he won with, he didn't exactly light the lanes on fire. He rolled three game series high enough to beat his opponent and managed to become undefeated. That's how he became the tournament leader.
So THATS why he hates the 8 pin . . .
Was this telecast filmed with a potato?
Make Bowling Gr8 Again no; this is back before we had HD. 90s bro xD
DUH. It's 1995.
1990s
And also not every match is stored
I wonder what the 11 other videos will be?! Great seeing the other 50 videos so far.
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Ernie's last ball missed the 8 too. He got a break from another pin.
Yeah but Ernie's last ball had less stakes, Ernie's max score only falls from 237 to 236 if he misses that 8 pin (meaning Randy can still tie Ernie 236-236 if Randy goes 9-spare-strike in the 10th frame). Randy's max score fell from 257 to 236 by not getting the strike.
I consider myself intense when competing against other bowlers, but not even I would do what Schlegel did if my opponent ended up with a horrible break like this to lose the championship match. If that was me on the losing end instead of Pedersen and Schlegel reacted like that, I probably would’ve thrown hands.
Bud bowling is a lot of luck... part of the game.. if u would resort to violence over Ernie overcoming a massive moment in his life n career and being obnoxious, then u are part of the problem with society. So sensitive, so soft, and so quick to lash out. Randy dished out just as much, if not more than Ernie.. Randy was well known at the time to be a massive hot head and d***. I can assure you, had Randy buried that shot, he would have rubbed it in Ernie's face too.
Randy Petersen Rob(bed) Stone 8....lol that's hurtful. Ernie was acted like a jerk!!
The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat was never so evident as in the 10th frame. I wish I had of been the first to shake Ernie's hand.
Blower 8 pin is the worst. Randy made the correct adjustment on the right lane. Sometimes bowling just isn't fair!
The ball if thrown correctly splits both the 8 and 9 pin or put another way the ball takes out both the 8 and 9 pin. Not enough hook or not enough weight on the bowling ball itself. Randy deserved to lose.
@@parkerbohnn actually the 5 is to take out the 8 on a perfect strike the ball will deflect slightly and roll through the 9.
I don’t understand why everyone expects someone who wins to act like a robot and not have any sort of emotion. Randy threw a good ball and got some bad luck. Ernie was like 50 something and was lucky to win. “Oh it was so immature” get over yourselves. You don’t get excited when your favorite sports team wins? Or is that immature and require you to celebrate the way someone your age should?
After he says he's the muhammad ali and the excessive I don't believe it? Yeah, you shouldn't be unemotional about your win, it's why you should be happy, but don't be too excessive like a child who looks like he never won a competition.
Excessive trash talk, calls himself the Muhammad ali of bowling when no one would even know who this clown is if it wasnt against randy. Not to mention this dude isn't even a top 50 bowler of all time. At least pretend to have some sense of being classy
i fell outta my seat
I have commented before. That shot was dead on. Schlegel also lost me for his actions
stop crying
I'm fairly certain Randy Pedersen left 5 pins before. So no, Mr. Announcer, a strike on that ball wouldn't have guaranteed a win.
You're an idiot
@@wyzguy66 Greek church?
Nothing wrong with that shot Randy buried it. Purely bad luck we've all been there.
Anyone notice Ernie almost left the 8 on his final shot too?
I still use the words Ernie used to Randy lol
Ernie Schlegal: the worst sportsmanship ever
You don't know Randy his whole life is bumming money now after Tommy Jones stopped paying for his rounds of golf.
Agreed
Look at all the people crying in the comment section... LOL.. This is one of the best and most hilarious clips in bowling I have ever seen, and this scene would not be the same without Ernie's reaction. Amazing match as well.. There have been a TON of solid 8's and 9's and even 10's with the match on the line in a major.. And let's be real, no one needs to feel pity for Randy Pedersen here.. We all know Randy was as much of an cocky A-Hole as Ernie was lol
1st frame karma ?
Once a nerd-boy, always a nerd-boy.
This was for a major title. Also, I’m sure it was even worse for Randy when Ernie rubbed it in his face with the way he acted. No class at all.
Being awfully rough on Ernie. His last shot darned near left that same solid 8.. it was the last one off the deck and was practically upright when it went into the pit. So, he watches Randy throw the perfect shot.. he's a competitor.. they were both throwing punches and counters to perfection. Stone eight.. Ernie gets a reprieve.. His reaction was nothing more than a response to a pressure packed match. Bad sportsmanship? I don't think so. Lack of class? Not if you watched Ernie bowl throughout the decades. He's always been one heck of a colorful character. That's just him being pumped about winning. As human as it gets.
Well, while I respect your opinion, I will have to disagree. No one else except Pete Weber has reacted so immaturely. And yes, this win was very important to him, but he should not have gotten out of his chair, shouted "I don’t believe it" three times before jumping up and down like a 5 year old, shouted "For the old people," and then shouting "Muhammad Ali." He could’ve reacted like someone of his age.
The worst break in the history of bowling. And Ernie was a real jerk about it.
Randy Peterson is a jerk to be honest. But bowling was different back then. It was a trash talking game
Loved Ernie's reaction! Wish today's bowling was more like this, instead everyone being sheep.
Put some emotion in it!
Okay, while I respect your thoughts, I will have to share my thoughts on Ernie's reaction. No one except Pete Weber, maybe, has reacted so immaturely.
And yes, this win was very important to Ernie, but he should not have gotten out of his chair, shouted "I don’t believe it" three times before jumping up and down like a 5-year-old, and shouting "For the old people" and "Muhammad Ali." He could’ve reacted like someone his age.
How would you feel if you were lying down in defeat as your competitor rubbed it in so much?
Yes, Randy had subtle ways of getting under other players' skin, but Ernie's reaction was over the top and showed little class/respect to Randy. Sportsmanship is expected at a high standard in bowling.
I know Randy was jacked up and BOTH of them were in the wrong, but I lost so much respect for Ernie when I first saw this.
302efi bruh he was being a fuckhead😂
It’s gonna make the sport today look like a cockhead. Bowlers never reacted to anything was the best thing the Sport should be. Expressing your emotions is great but do it in a different way as if you’re not bragging to your opponent. Like when EJ Tackett and Marshall Kent recently won the PBA Roth/Holman Doubles.
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 theres a reason modern bowling has terrible ratings and can barely draw 100 people.. people love thee sh*t-talk and gamesmanship of the past. That's why bowling was so popular back then and is a snoozfest now.
People gotta stop villianizing Ernie. For what, cuz he celebrated a win? I wouldn’t believe it either. This is the players championship. This isn’t some local house shot tournament
I remember seeing this when was televised. Tough break for Pedersen but that is bowling. Schlegel reaction was over the top and showed little class/respect for his competitor. Yeah, I know he was jacked up but I lost much respect for him that day. I also know when he was younger Pedersen had his subtle ways of getting under the skin of his opponents so somewhat of a payback.
Fuck the haters, they just want bowling to be a gentleman's sport instead of modernizing it.
Man...5th frame he should have just moved 2n1 right and he'd find that high flush hit. Moves are a must or your game is a bust. Pedersen really deserved this win.
At the end is most Unprofessional Bowler of all time
15:53 LIEK IF U CRI EVERYTIEM
Ernie, really? Acting like you could've beaten Earl, Walter or Belmo? Huh? Certainly you're not greatest, I prefer "Who do you think you are? I am!" than the "I can't believe it!!" Bullshit.
Muhammad Ali.
i absolutely cannot stand ernie...his demeanor is the definition of abhorrent
Couldn’t happen to a greater complainer
What poor sportsmanship by Ernie Schlegel! He should have been disqualified!
The ball if thrown correctly splits both the 8 and 9 pin or put another way the ball takes out both the 8 and 9 pin. Not enough hook or not enough weight on the bowling ball itself. Randy deserved to lose.
You're an idiot
Fuck off
@@wyzguy66 What are you talking about? Pete Weber lost so many matches leaving solid 9 pins until he dropped to a lighter ball. Randy has that retard step in his approach where he virtually stops. That's why he lost his tour card.
@@NateCraven318 You never golfed with Randy. He expects everyone to pick up his tab even at the clubhouse.
@@parkerbohnn Heh, another one of those traditionalists. 🖕