that moment when sorabji
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2023
- This is Kevin Bowyer, a virtuoso organist who performed part of Sorabji's 8.5-hour long Organ Symphony No.2 at the University of Iowa. He describes the feelings he gets from playing this symphony, and you can literally see him go through his emotions while playing it live. Say what you will about Sorabji, but if his music can impact someone on this level, then I'm glad his music exists.
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• Kevin Bowyer plays Sor...
• Sorabji's Second Organ... - Hudba
In case you were wondering, the page turner seated next to the console is Dr Andrew Mead, theory/composition faculty at the University of Indiana, Bloomington. When he was at the University of Michigan before IU, he was one of my professors, and I got him interested in Sorabji, enough so that he volunteered to page-turn for this concert!
if Sorabji's music can give someone this experience, then I'm glad Sorabji's music exists
As a big sorabji fan, I'm waiting for your sorabji score-video
DoomPiano - I doubt it will happen, I’m sorry. I’m still becoming acquainted with Sorabji’s music, so I don’t really feel right in posting something I don’t have very much familiarity with. But also, most of his works are too long for me to work with (not to mention how much legal bs surrounds his work).
What about Busoni?
@@doompiano1604 copyright
perhaps you should have a listen to his songs - very French sounding!
The expression of the man in the background at 1:11... it adds so much!
Sorabji's pieces always ends on such nice chords, but this one has to take the cake for me. I really hear the summit of everest in it. I'd say Sorabji was ahead of his time, but no one did music quite like this.
This is like speedrunning or endurance racing, what an incredible feat
That organ is absolutely stunning in person!
Absolutely beautiful! I have his recording, and the entire thing is a wonder!
Can you please send that to me?? Not for the score video, I ain't talented to do it, but to have that magnanimous thing over my PC
@@basedscores It's very restrictive, I don't think I can get permission distributing it. Sorry!
@@AnatoArchives you can, just send me through wetransfer, I said I don't distribute it in a domain, if still a no, it's fine
When he kaikhosrued his sorabji, I felt that
Didn't expect to hear my feelings about this music expressed so accurately
I wish I had bought the ticket for the Elbephilharmonie performance to experience the whole work.
Greatest performance of a Sorabji work ever
Is the meme video phase experiencing a brief rebirth
nah this is the last one for sure for sure
@@TheExarion imagine the most skeptical expression a person could make, that's what I'm doin rn
@@TheExarion please don't stop
@@composerjalen Does it look like the guy on the right at 1:13?
@@brycehm yeah actually
Wait- all 8 hours in a single concert??!!,
Yes.
@@AnatoArchives Yes, and no - as in no, I'd never want to listen to this dreck for 8 hours.
@@maultwo ok
@@AnatoArchives "ok" - a phrase that should never be used to describe this music.
@@maultwo ok.
It's just free form jazz but slightly slower and i love it
Sorabji would love Ornette Coleman's work
Sorabji's music is very different from jazz, an idiom he did not like. Try thinking more of sitar music or gregorian chant.
The orange bar is very distracting...
The source videos are in the description lol
It was exactly this type of organ music that caused my mother to describe the organ as an "absolutely terrible instrument."
But.... Here the music is/was actually the problem, not the instrument.
The poor organs certainly couldn't help it that they were being used for such noise.
For minutes there are only discordant tones (OK, some people also call this dissonance, and in small doses they can even bring that "certain something" into a composition), how can you find that good or even admirable?
So I don't know anyway.
For many years we had an organist at our church who obviously enjoyed it very much when the visitors left the church not only as soon as possible after the service, but also as quickly as possible.
Through his terrible playing (constantly playing such bad and weird stuff after church services) he not only damaged the reputation of our actually great organ over the years, he also gave rise to opinions like my mother's.
In addition, over time, fewer visitors actually came to the service.
That only changed again when another organist was hired...
Someday someone has to explain to me where there is even the slightest bit of beauty in such music.
In any case, I can't find anything good or beautiful in such music.
She is for running away and nothing else.
The composer must have had a rather disturbed soul or psyche.
Or a somehow severely damaged hearing.
Maybe both.
( Only my humble opinion.... )
In this video, the performer (Kevin Bowyer) literally explains the beauty he finds in the dissonance of this piece. While I can’t speak to Sorabji’s hearing (saying that he might’ve had “severely damaged hearing” is not what I would consider humble, btw), he was a social recluse and much of his music is very evident of this.
In my opinion, like Scriabin, Sorabji’s musical artistry is probably best explored chronologically. There are many moments of quite beautiful music in his early works, which seem heavily inspired by some romantic composers and the likes of Ravel and Debussy. That being said, I’m also not fond of his later works. They’re often jam-packed with scales and too texturally saturated for me. Regardless, many people enjoy Sorabji’s breadth of work, and I would not accuse any of them of having “bad” tastes or composing “terrible” things if they produce a sound like this. It’s not for me, and that’s okay - for the same reason that I may not like peanut butter (no matter how much someone explains to me how good it tastes to them), but I wouldn’t berate someone else who likes peanut butter or any number of delicacies that don’t fit my palette.
Sorabji wrote polytonal music for himself and the musically educated elite. Your mother's parish organist probably just used too much upperwork, or the organ design and voicing was too shrill. Common amongst older organists whose hearing is decaying.
I'm all for dissonance, but 8 hours of this shit would be torture.