Possibly however I feel that A. Smith & Co.is always on the hunt for the next "New" obstacle. However you never know, perhaps they will combine the Vertical Limit with something and make a "New" challenge.
Well, Season 5 of Australian Ninja Warrior introduced the Vertical Limit into Stage 3, although it wasn't attempted. Really hope they keep it, I believe it's the one and only thing they've done right since they started the competition here in Australia.
Another informative how to video, your always an inspiration to my training. This will be the next obstacle to be add to my ninja set-up. Thanks Deren 😁
New to this ninja thing, but seeing what look like potential issues for long-term safety on some of these builds. 1. Eye bolts are weaker when subjected to angular loads, with open eye bolts being significantly weaker than closed / forged eye bolts -- if you're expecting to lache onto / off of it, the breaking strength is going to be far less than the rated strength for pulling downward 2. Metal rubbing on metal is going to lead to long-term wear -- putting something like a soft loop in between rings would help prevent them from wearing down over time. For something like this, my thought would be: - Skip the eye bolts entirely - Put 2x 1" holes near the top of the board (leaving at least 1.5-2" of material above / next to the holes) - Round over the edges of the holes & top edges of the board (fastest with a router & round-over bit, but still doable with sandpaper and / or a file) - Drape a soft loop through the hole to connect to the carabiner above
Timothy, I agree with you 100%. Safety is a huge concern when doing any sort of DIY. And you're absolutely correct. Forged steel is significantly stronger than the general zinc plated ones I'm using. However, with each eyebolt rated at 175lbs and sharing the weight, this works perfect for a large range of body types. Laches onto a vertical Limit of this size is extremely difficult and there are not many who could perform such a feat. And for those that can, I would highly recommend you buy a professional grade vertical limit. 2. As for metal to metal, the carabiners I'm using are rated for climbing and are widely used throughout Ninja warrior competitions with direct contact to the metal eye bolts for various holds. However, the 1" hole near the top is an option that I used when making an obstacle, that I'll release next week. (this obstacle I would definitely be doing some laches to)
@@TheNinjaLife I'm mostly building for myself & my kids (3 & 5), but my natural tendency for DIY stuff is to overbuild things / build based on specs for public parks or commercial settings. Most recent debate was whether I should order 22-27 KN climbing rated carabiners, 3/8" plated 30 KN climbing rated quick links, 3/8" stainless 45 KN PPE rated quick links, or non-rated 5/16" plated quick links with a 1500 lb working load limit & 5:1 safety factor. (I ultimately decided that the cheaper quick links with a 1500 lb WLL / 7500 lb breaking strength would probably be OK) Here's one video I'd come across showing examples of metal on metal wear after only a few months of use: czcams.com/video/eGWxXS2aZtg/video.html
I see you're point. It's definitely better to be safe than sorry. I watched that video about metal to metal and I understand your concern. For moving parts or rotating surfaces with metal to metal contact causes, lots of chafing and is for sure no good. But as he mentioned in the video, static applications are a different story. Metal to metal when using as a static application, like the vertical limit, that would be perfectly fine (in my opinion). You will always have wear on your gear over time and it is best to avoid metal on metal contact as much as possible, whenever possible. Now if I owned a gym where I was going to have many people use these obstacles over and over and sometimes not as intended, then for sure I will be taking more precaution to avoid metal to metal on just about everything. (including static applications, because you never know when a Ninja is gonna try a dynamic move on a static obstacle)
Always, always, and I mean always use eye protection when sawing and sanding. At least do it for the kids watching. Thanks. Could you DIY a Rumbling Dice or publish specs, please.
🤔🤔🤔Do you think the Vertical Limit should make an appearance on American Ninja Warrior? 🤔🤔🤔
Yes
That would definitely make the show even harder than it is.
Possibly however I feel that A. Smith & Co.is always on the hunt for the next "New" obstacle. However you never know, perhaps they will combine the Vertical Limit with something and make a "New" challenge.
Yes !!!!
Yes
Well, Season 5 of Australian Ninja Warrior introduced the Vertical Limit into Stage 3, although it wasn't attempted.
Really hope they keep it, I believe it's the one and only thing they've done right since they started the competition here in Australia.
Suchhhh a hard obstacle! But definitely good to have
Probably one of the hardest out there. absolute must have!
Another informative how to video, your always an inspiration to my training.
This will be the next obstacle to be add to my ninja set-up.
Thanks Deren 😁
Thanks Dean. Glad this was helpful🤙
New to this ninja thing, but seeing what look like potential issues for long-term safety on some of these builds.
1. Eye bolts are weaker when subjected to angular loads, with open eye bolts being significantly weaker than closed / forged eye bolts -- if you're expecting to lache onto / off of it, the breaking strength is going to be far less than the rated strength for pulling downward
2. Metal rubbing on metal is going to lead to long-term wear -- putting something like a soft loop in between rings would help prevent them from wearing down over time.
For something like this, my thought would be:
- Skip the eye bolts entirely
- Put 2x 1" holes near the top of the board (leaving at least 1.5-2" of material above / next to the holes)
- Round over the edges of the holes & top edges of the board (fastest with a router & round-over bit, but still doable with sandpaper and / or a file)
- Drape a soft loop through the hole to connect to the carabiner above
Timothy, I agree with you 100%. Safety is a huge concern when doing any sort of DIY.
And you're absolutely correct. Forged steel is significantly stronger than the general zinc plated ones I'm using. However, with each eyebolt rated at 175lbs and sharing the weight, this works perfect for a large range of body types. Laches onto a vertical Limit of this size is extremely difficult and there are not many who could perform such a feat. And for those that can, I would highly recommend you buy a professional grade vertical limit.
2. As for metal to metal, the carabiners I'm using are rated for climbing and are widely used throughout Ninja warrior competitions with direct contact to the metal eye bolts for various holds. However, the 1" hole near the top is an option that I used when making an obstacle, that I'll release next week. (this obstacle I would definitely be doing some laches to)
@@TheNinjaLife I'm mostly building for myself & my kids (3 & 5), but my natural tendency for DIY stuff is to overbuild things / build based on specs for public parks or commercial settings.
Most recent debate was whether I should order 22-27 KN climbing rated carabiners, 3/8" plated 30 KN climbing rated quick links, 3/8" stainless 45 KN PPE rated quick links, or non-rated 5/16" plated quick links with a 1500 lb working load limit & 5:1 safety factor. (I ultimately decided that the cheaper quick links with a 1500 lb WLL / 7500 lb breaking strength would probably be OK)
Here's one video I'd come across showing examples of metal on metal wear after only a few months of use:
czcams.com/video/eGWxXS2aZtg/video.html
I see you're point. It's definitely better to be safe than sorry.
I watched that video about metal to metal and I understand your concern. For moving parts or rotating surfaces with metal to metal contact causes, lots of chafing and is for sure no good. But as he mentioned in the video, static applications are a different story. Metal to metal when using as a static application, like the vertical limit, that would be perfectly fine (in my opinion). You will always have wear on your gear over time and it is best to avoid metal on metal contact as much as possible, whenever possible.
Now if I owned a gym where I was going to have many people use these obstacles over and over and sometimes not as intended, then for sure I will be taking more precaution to avoid metal to metal on just about everything. (including static applications, because you never know when a Ninja is gonna try a dynamic move on a static obstacle)
@@TheNinjaLife I think the one thing I can guarantee with kids is that everything will be used in ways that it wasn't intended ;-)
next time can you build the warped wall
It'll be a while before I can make do this diy. But I'll add it to my list of Ninja DIYs
That’s really awesome.
Always, always, and I mean always use eye protection when sawing and sanding. At least do it for the kids watching. Thanks. Could you DIY a Rumbling Dice or publish specs, please.