A Baptist Pastor’s 30-Year Quest for the Church of the Bible (w/ Scott Oakland)
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- In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Scott Oakland, a former Baptist pastor, a Reformed and Lutheran elder and, finally, a grateful Catholic convert.
Scott shares the story of how his love for the Bible and his quest to find the Church founded by Christ drew him ever deeper in towards the ancient Catholic Church. From a Baptist pastor, questioning his beliefs about infant baptism, to a Reformed Calvinist, steeped in the theology around predestination, to a Lutheran elder, holding on to a deep belief in the sacraments but, ultimately, unable to deny to truth of the Catholic faith.
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As a son, grandson, nephew and cousin of sincere and faithful Baptist Pastors, I also became a Catholic after reading and studying the Church Fathers.
Amen🙏
Wow!
Amen.
What prevents more Baptists or others from exploring the Church fathers!
Whenever Protestants blow off the early church fathers as "irrelevant" or "not scripture," they overlook the basic human historical witnesses of early Church beliefs, liturgy, and governance. It blows my mind the willful ignorance of some and the indifference of others.
Wonderful testimony of Gods faithfulness God bless you all 🙏💕
Thanks for watching!
I’m so taken with gladness holy contentment when I listen to convert stories to the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church of Traditional Teachings and Worship All Glories of Glories All Exaltation of Exaltations and High Praises to the All Holy Trinity yeah Amen 🙏
Fiducia Suplicans edict is heterodox. Even the Coptic and Russian Orthodox Churches have discontinued Ecumenical dialogues with the Vatican. Invoking God's blessings on those who persist in mortal sins is very wrong.
It always strikes me as a form of hysterical ludicrous irony when I hear Prots clatter on about the evils of following men. The whole Protestant premise is following the decrees of men using piecemealed tidbits of scripture separated from their context and used to spread division amoung Christians. The Protestants actually see the Catholic Church as a “Mission Field”. We need to make them see a “Welcome Home Field”.
I feel the same way. They say we're following men as their teachers cherry pick the bible and preach that. They'll disregard the early church fathers but reveire either themselves or their pastors as seeing the truth. I don't think they see it at all
Jesus said " All men think evil thoughts continually.? Even tbe other 11 of His chosen Apostles did not know that Judas Iscariot was the betrayer until after Judas betrayed Jesus.
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(354-430 A.D.) St. Augustine: “The one true Church, the catholic Church, fighting all heresies.”
(A Sermon to Catechumens on the Creed, 14)
As a Christian, the further we get from our roots eventually our roots are a long way from our Christian. Jesus only left us one Church, He called it, “My Church”. He placed leaders and teachers and it was given the keys to the Kingdom, the power to loosen and to bind and to forgive sins. It took 300 years for its adherents to reach a time when world leaders stopped killing them and it has come into today intact, real, and committed today as it was in the beginning to its founder, Jesus Christ, who is still the leader of His Church. Protestants and Satanists fear it and even hate it. Catholics love it because we love Jesus and His Mother and the fact that it is His Church.
Pure history. Pure reality. Amen!
Amen brother
Well said!
(354-430 A.D.) St. Augustine: “The one true Church, the catholic Church, fighting all heresies.”
(A Sermon to Catechumens on the Creed, 14)
The early church was catholic/universal in that there was only one church. Every Christian was naturally in the only Christian church that existed.
The true Church of Christ is His mystical body, with some members found in the Catholic church but with many others found in other Christians churches as well. Jesus remains the head of His Church, but the Catholic church can't be the only true Church of Christ if those like me supposedly can be damned despite our biblically accurate faith in Christ as Savior. I'm baptized, believing in the real presence of His body and blood in the Sacrament, consistent in prayer and worship and study and striving to live out my Christian faith empowered by the Spirit. I fear there are Catholics whose savior is the Catholic Church instead of Christ, and there is only one Savior which is Christ.
Another book for my book list.... Great guest, many thanks!
Much respect for this gentleman and his ability to approach life with an open mind.
One of the earliest written lists of the Bishops of Rome that i know of “Against Heresy” book 3 chapter 3 by Ireneaus about 180 AD.
The only written scripture that I know of regarding the king’s “Al Habayit” who is over the house and holds the keys to the king’s household is in Isaiah 22 and Matt 16.
You've stated in correctly. Irenaeus provided that list from Linus to Eutherius (sp?). I believe it included 12 bishops of Rome after Peter up to Irenaeus' time.
There is a Baptist preacher convert to the Faith that became a priest that would be a great guest for your show. I went to Birmingham AL for an INDYCAR race and attended the Mass at St Theresa in Leeds. It is in the top two new masses I’ve ever been too. Fr Bean is his name and I think you could find his contact at the parish website.
Thanks for suggesting Fr. Bean. I found him on The Journey Home with Marcus Grodi. Being a SB myself now Catholic, I found it informative.
I was raised sb then Calvinist and now am home in Rome. Praise be to you Lord Jesus Christ
@@CathNcamo2 Praise God! you should google YT for 'Way of the Fathers': Augustine and the seeds of Calvinism by Jim Papandrea. Extremely informative and Jim knows his stuff. God bless
Catholics who grew up after the 1970 were and are very poorly educated in the faith. The church never should have done away with The Baltimore Catechism. It was a very effective way to teach . It had questions and answers. Unfortunately, the church now uses a very shallow, feel good educational material.
There is the Catechism promulgated by Saint John Paul II. I have a copy. You are right that there is not enough teaching on the Church's teaching though.
I think there should also be education on the techniques Protestants use to pull uninformed Catholics away from the chruch. That way unsuspecting Catholics would know how to respond. I don't mean to say that such Protestants are not sincere but, I would say that they themselves don't understand their own faiths as well as they imagine. I was one for 70 years before I learned just how modern our beliefs are. Protesatnts simply repeat those modern mantras they've been taught eg. 'have you been born again'?. 'have you accepted Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior?', , etc, etc. These are all phrases born out of the Great Awakenings and afterwards. Most Protestants are not aware of that and I would be surprised if their pastors are as well. All very sincere folks but products of their modern theology.
Saying there is no evidence for sola Scriptura in the early Church is not an argument from silence; that's just pointing out a lack of evidence. Saying there was no bishop of Rome merely because Ignatius of Antioch doesn't mention a bishop by name is an argument from silence (and against the evidence we do have from Ignatius, Irenaeus, etc.).
Sola pre-scriptura? So, the Apostles sat around waiting for writing to appear? Beam me up, Scotty!
Sola Scriptura is Biblical? NO!
(1522 A.D.) Martin Luther:
“Christ wrote NOT His teaching and gave no command to write it.”
Weimarer Ausgabe (WA) (W.A., 10, pp. 625-28)
Not everything Jesus did is in Bible!
(John 21:25) (2 Thessalonians 2:15)
ORAL tradition, Timothy “Teach” what he heard from Paul (2 Timothy 2:2) (2 Timothy 3:14-17): “Scripture is profitable for reproof.”
(verse 15) From Timothy’s youth,
the Greek Old Testament!
NO New Testament until (382 A.D.)
(verse 16) “Profitable” (KJV) “Ophelimos” (Koine Greek) means HELPFUL not SUFFICIENT!
Canon is known through tradition also the Canon is authoritative. If Sola Scriptura is true? What Protestant church today would have authority? Baptist, United Methodist 😂 global Methodist, Calvinist, Lutherans, Anglicans, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Mormons, Unitarians, sabbatarians or the other hundred different denominations. that a cannon conundrum and confusion
@@Will-mt3sn No "Protestant" council has ever been called to argue the canon, doctrine or anything else. They all argued and split on the way in!
That’s my point. What Protestant church? It’s so divided and segregated that you don’t have unity. It’s just so confusing to me
St. Ignatius an apostle of St. John: (107 A.D.) “Where there is Jesus Christ there is the CATHOLIC church.” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 8:2)
(110 A.D.) “Repent and return into the unity of the church, follows a SCHISM he shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.”
(Avoid Schismatics 3:2, 3:3, 4:1, 4)
(412 A.D.) St. Augustine: “Whoever is separated from this Catholic Church the wrath of God rests upon him.” (Letters 141:5)
What gets written down is more important. That's why the Tradition got written down early by the apostolic fathers and their early successors. We got to stop deemphasizing the written as Catholics. Don't let Protestants think Catholic teachings only got written down centuries later.
No, it's not necessarily "more important" just by being written down. That way of thinking is completely modernist. We cannot just throw away fifteen hundred years of traditional Christian faith and practice just because we want to measure up to five hundred years Protestantism. It's not in anyone's interest. That'd be an absolute disservice to the truth.
We need to read the whole thing and become studious in our teaching from the Bible because our weakness there is the weakness easiest for Satan to exploit via his Protestant child.
Gospels record, for instance, how long it took to walk someplace. Is that more important that the doctrine of the Trinity or the nature of the Eucharist?
@@ucheodozor4147 No, it's not "completely modernist." Even in ancient times, what was important got written down, even by pagans and Church leaders. Ancient peoples did not idolize script as modernists do, but they still thought to write down and PRESERVE important writings. The writings of the early fathers were important enough to copy and preserve along with Scripture. We don't do any favors to the truth by defending an "unwritten Tradition" when that Tradition WAS written down in the early centuries! Don't just repeat mindless apologetic talking points. It's not really a matter of what was written down or not, but how early certain beliefs and practices were documented and whether they appeal to prior unwritten apostolic Tradition or not.
@@fantasia55 Under normal circumstances, it didn't take years to walk someplace. Moreover, the Mediterranean Sea and waterways sometimes provided faster transport than over land.
"The faintest ink is stronger than the strongest memory." Yes, from a purely natural perspective (and grace builds upon nature), what gets written down AND PRESERVED and handed down is more important _in terms of the knowledge future generations have_ than what was said and never preserved in writing.
As Jimmy Akin has emphasized, writing was relatively expensive in the ancient world. If something got written down (esp long writings), it had to be important enough to spend that amount of money on. But this applies to the writings of the Church fathers as much as to Scripture, from a natural perspective.
The fact of the Incarnation, as recorded in the gospels, is in some sense more important than the Trinity or the Eucharist because those latter depend on the former. Without Jesus, there is no Eucharist or knowledge of the Trinity.
Catholicism acknowledges a hierarchy of truths. The Trinity may be at the top in importance, but epistemologically, the Incarnation comes first and the gospels document that fact more clearly and explicitly than any other doctrine.
What about the heterodox Fiducia Suplicans edict? Why is the RCC hierarchy silencing conservative Catholic priests who publicly repudiate the Fiducia Suplicans edict?
I was drawn to this video by the guest's journey, because he spent some time in the LCMS and I am an LCMS Lutheran. I have journeyed from Catholicism (till 28 years old, now 68) and been non-denominational, Methodist, E-Free, Presbyterian, and now Lutheran("real" Lutheran, not "fake" Lutheranism, i.e. ECLA). About 1/4 of my current congregation was Catholic. I know many have gone the opposite direction.
This video inspired some questions. If you or some viewers want to respectfully respond, I'd appreciate it. I won't argue with anyone.
The early Church Fathers and church are referred to as Catholic. Also, the Bible is reportedly the result of the Catholic church. I find in the LCMS a lot of acceptance of the church Fathers and church councils from prior to the East/West schism. Excluding heretical groups, there was only one church as best I can figure. Orthodoxy and my Lutheranism believe the Fathers and early church are my spiritual ancestry as much as they are Catholicism's. Am I missing something?
Always HAVING NOT THE SPIRIT!
More questions. I would like to know about the other sources of God's truth in addition to God's Word? If there is oral truth that was/is handed down, where is that found today? Everything that comes from the Magisterium and Councils isn't written down? Do the church Fathers totally agree with everything that is Catholic today? Or can Fathers be found that contradict some of Catholicism?
The further I get into this video, the more questions. The guest speaks of the Godly Orthodox and the Godly people he knew and knows of in his Baptist background. Are they saved outside of the Catholic church? As an ex-Catholic who is a Christian, I've been told repeatedly that I am almost certainly damned because I am not Catholic and not invincibly ignorant. Is my orthodox faith of no value without the Catholic church?
My understanding is that every Bishop is given a list of who directly ordained them all back to their specific Apostle.
I think it's part of the protestant culture, not necessarily the American culture. The cultural essence of protestantism is distinctly rebellious.
1 Corinthians 12:12-27 KJV For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14. For the body is not one member, but many. 15. If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16. And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17. If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18. But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19. And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20. But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21. And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 22. Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 23. And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 24. For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: 25. That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 26. And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 27. Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
Awesome.. and don’t forget Ye All- Matthew 16:17-19 and John 6:51 and Luke 22:19 and John 20:23. So much good stuff taught by the One Holy Apostolic Church - amazing.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out, that it might be plain that they all are not of us.
1 John 2:19
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Not so awesome when you have no clue what to bind or loose is, or even what the Passover is all about!
But that's because you have no true Agape for God and what man says is more important than what God is trying to teach you by his WORD!
Matthew 5:18 KJV For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled...
the law says we all must die to fulfill the judgment of the law!
Jesus was under the law but sinned not!
Do you obey Jesus?
Matthew 16:24-25 KJV ...Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it...
Romans 6:7-15 KJV For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9. Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
2 Corinthians 5:14-21 KJV For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15. And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 16. Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Romans 8:28-30 KJV And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Ephesians 1:4-10 KJV According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5. Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6. To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8. Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9. Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: 10. ...
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Ephesians 1:4-10 KJV According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5. Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6. To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. 7. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8. Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9. Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 KJV In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9. Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power...
1 Peter 4:17-19 KJV For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18. And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19. Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
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Romans 6:7 KJV For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Luke 9:23-24 KJV ...And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
Born once, die twice.
Born twice, r e once.
But scorpions are from the bottomless pit!
Romans 6:7-8 KJV For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
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"Moved about by every wind of doctrine," reveals a shakey foundation in God's Word, not commendable, truley dangerous. What next, deconversion?
Israel has been on a quest to God for around 3500 years and they did not make it either for as you they did not understand him
Now I can see how this happens. When one loses their esteem and respect for God's word, and starts to lift up the words and thoughts of men(however well meaning) it becomes a slippery slope that draws one down.
Now when we get to the point where we believe in "sacraments" then we are leaving God's sure foundation.
John 1:12-13
[12]But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[13]Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
A sacrament is something that happens by the will of man (it is scheduled in the bulletin) and the flesh participates.
So you can't have BOTH the Bible and be sacramental. You must man up and choose where you stand.
Sacraments existed before your Bible.
@@halleylujah247 Don't understand what you mean. Before Moses got the Law(Torah or Bible) there were no sacraments, but in the books the sacramental system was given as a way to cover sin and approach the Holy God. They didn't make up sacraments. They were given by God as part of the covenant of law. But under the New Covenant we are no longer under the law, but under the priesthood of Jesus Christ. Jesus is the once for all fulfillment of the law so we may have direct access to Him (by grace, not sacraments) If one would still try to use a sacrament to approach God, then it is a denial of grace.
Galatians 3:2-3
[2]This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[3]Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Galatians 4:9
[9]But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
The sacraments are biblically based. That is a fact. They lead you to be closer to God. I’m no theologian. I do know, like this man being interviewed, that the RCC
is the one true church. He & many others that are very knowledgeable have come to that conclusion. It’s odd how so many of these converts are so against the Catholic Church & end up exactly there! It makes me smile. Praise be to God.
@@jeromepopiel388 Those sacraments you mentioned are the prefigurment of our Sacraments, but also you are posting all these Bible verses; What authority do you have to interpret scripture? Who gave you that authority?
@@halleylujah247 Every believer can and should be able to hear God speak through the scriptures which is His word to us who believe. God will not fail to show you His word if you come as a child willing to learn.
John 14:26
[26]But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
2 Timothy 2:15
[15]Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Rightly dividing scripture means that it must harmonize in meaning or be consistent with itself because God does not operate in confusion and He doesn't change over time. He remains the same unto all generations. Any interpretation must first be consistent with the nature of God and how He has been defined in the balance of scripture.
If you come up with a meaning that is not consistent with the balance of scripture you may be assured that you're wrong.
Hebrews 5:12-14
[12]For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
[13]For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
[14]But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
It takes many years of study to understand the deeper truth but even a new believer should be able to discern the basics.
2 Corinthians 3:12
[12]Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
The truths of the Bible are not hidden.
We try to make it too complicated and dependant on outside factors.
We must always know for ourselves and have a sense when something doesn't feel right.
A person who works at the bank and handles cash all day can spot a counterfeit bill because they are so familiar with the genuine.
We need to be able to trust the Holy Spirit working in our spirit.
The definition of a graven image is an idol or god used as an object of worship. My example to you is the image of Peter at the Vatican which is missing its great toe from being kissed.
graven means carved
Actually it means to be engraved on ant surface. You know like all of the statues in catholic churches and homes.
@@francissweeney7318 Actually, graven means carved.
when someone you love, don’t keep any single thing to remember them by. no pics no jewelry, no clothing, no tool, no car, no house, nothing. otherwise you may just be worshipping your dead relative.
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I worship God alone.
Purgatory- worship of Mary - the Pope are just three things that should keep anyone from seeking to be within 100 miles of the R C church.- these stories are just confirmation of 1 Corinthians 2::14 amongst many other verses of false teachings of the charismatic industry ( ever searching never finding) - they are sad stories
@dougmcminn9346 - you do realize that God SET EMNITY between the woman and the serpent - (Gen 3:15) - it appears with your hate against Mary makes CLEAR which SIDE of this Enmity you are on!
Catholics do not worship Mary, and Protestants do not worship God. Worship is via the Mass.
Catholics honor NOT worship images & statues? YES! “Honour all men.” (1 Peter 2:17) (Luke 24:4-5)
(CCC 2132) “The honor paid to sacred images is a ‘respectful veneration’, NOT the Adoration due to God alone.”
Saints BOW to crowns, alter & throne(Revelation 4:10, 8:3), Jesus’ feet Kissed (Luke 7:38), 17 Dead Jews Honored (Hebrews 11),
(379 A.D.) St. Basil: “Apostles I honour and kiss their images NOT forbidden in all churches.” (Letters 360)
Moses makes graven images of cherubims (Exodus 25:18) & a serpent (Numbers 21:8-9), temple had images of animals, cherubims, trees, flowers (1 Kings 6:29, 7:25, 36), people BOW to David (1 Kings 1:31), Jacob (Genesis 27:29), Saint Paul (Acts 16:25-31), angels (Genesis 18:1-4, 22), the Ark, Mercy Seat, cherubims (Joshua 7:6-8), throne (Revelation 7:11), temple (Psalms 5:7), Jerusalem (Daniel 6:10), fire (2 Chronicles 7:1-4), David calls Saul “Lord.” & “Bowed.” to him (1 Samuel 24:8) (CCC 477)
(354-430 A.D.) St. Augustine: “Catholic church episcopal succession [the BISHOPS of ROME] from PETER.” (Epistle of Manichaeus Chapters 4 & 5)
First Apostolic Succession (Acts 1:23-26)? YES! Apostles pass authority to Episkopoi (Koine Greek) Bishop (English) (Philippians 1:1) “Office of a Bishop.” (1 Timothy 3:1) a.k.a. Páppas (Koine Greek) Pope (English)! (Apostolic succession - Wikipedia) (Pope - Wikipedia) (CCC 552) (Acts 6:6, 9:17-19) (Matthew 16:18) (107 A.D.)
St. Ignatius: “Let no man do anything connected with the church without the Bishop.” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 8:1) (393 A.D.)
St. Jerome: “Peter wrote two epistles called CATHOLIC” and is the FIRST Pope @ Rome? YES! “Peter chief of the apostles… to Rome in the second year of Claudius (42 A.D.)… chair there for twenty-five years.” (De viris illustribus [On Notable Men], Chapter 1. Simon Peter) (CCC 862-863) “Catholic Answers: The Papacy” (2015)
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(110 A.D.) St. Ignatius (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2, 7:1)
“Those who hold heterodox do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of Jesus are perishing.”
(70 A.D.) The Didache: Sunday, “Offer the Eucharist… in every place & time… a pure sacrifice.” (14:1-3) (CCC 1322-1419) (430 B.C.) “Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering.” (Malachi 1:11)
Who worships Mary?Why do you protestants keep on saying something that's not one catholic does.
The cordial Catholic, in other words, the Baptist Pastor was never saved, and he isn't saved. Because no saved person would ever become a Catholic, and that's a Biblical fact. The Holy Spirit in a saved person would convict them of the errors in the erroneous Catholic Church.
Where does it say that in the Bible?
@@TheCordialCatholic if you knew the Bible and you knew what the Catholics teach, you would know that they aren't the same things, so how can a Catholic be saved?.
So, study the Bible and compare the Catholic doctrines with it, then you will see how erroneous the Catholic Church is.
@@alanhales6369 That is circular reasoning.
@@N1IA-4 what I said was the truth, as anyone who knows the Bible will know.
@@alanhales6369 Catholicism does not contradict or violate the Bible. It violates your interpretation of the Bible.