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  • House of The Dragon | Season 2 Episode 1 | "A Son for a Son"
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    Introduction: 0:00 - 11:24
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  • @SpartanandPudgey
    @SpartanandPudgey  Před 12 dny +60

    We are SO EXCITED to be back in action with more House of the Dragon! We have missed the world of Game of Thrones so much!!
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    • @user-pv3wm9qo9d
      @user-pv3wm9qo9d Před 12 dny +3

      Thanks for letting the intro in and all the outtakes . It’s great to watch.😅😂❤️🔥🙌 🐉

    • @joshbliss3620
      @joshbliss3620 Před 12 dny +1

      So awesome guys!!! Happy birthday pudgey!!

    • @fabian5813
      @fabian5813 Před 12 dny

      36:02 You Expected Larys To Come Out And Take Out These Two Guys With A Spear To The Throat? Larys?
      Larys? Can He Even Plant Properly To Throw A Spear?

    • @robross864
      @robross864 Před 8 dny +1

      It would be great if you also react to 'inside the episode' of HOTD. I've seen CZcamsrs 'Mac react' do it after each episode, maybe you guys want to do that too.

  • @xongaming4456
    @xongaming4456 Před 12 dny +626

    If Haleana wouldn't choose, both her kids will die.

    • @crystalk98
      @crystalk98 Před 12 dny +59

      Exactly. At least, that's what they told her in the book anyway....make a choice or they all die. Not to mention they also threatened "graping" her daughter if she didnt choose! Not sure why they didnt follow what happened in the book for that scene....

    • @user-np4gr2je2q
      @user-np4gr2je2q Před 12 dny +23

      ​@@crystalk98Who cares it was still a great scene.

    • @LindsnDarth
      @LindsnDarth Před 12 dny +50

      @@crystalk98 they constantly alter the book just slightly in favor of the blacks. Need a clear "good" and "bad" I guess for the basic viewer. If they had kept it that they tied up Alicent and waited for Helena to bring her kids in to say good night, then did what you stated above in front of them it would make her just a smidge to sympathetic. Also Rhaenyra did not specifically call for Aemond but they got give her a get out of jail free card with the viewers on that front as well

    • @stevenstone307
      @stevenstone307 Před 12 dny +5

      @@LindsnDarth True true! So far it's a really good adaptation I think, the books and show are always going to be different which is fine!

    • @queenxx1690
      @queenxx1690 Před 12 dny +3

      @@crystalk98 There was no choice it was Jaehrys from the begining not even Aemond notice how b&ch knew there is boy and girl so Daemon told them

  • @colindonnelly9121
    @colindonnelly9121 Před 12 dny +148

    Idk if anyone has mentioned this but the reason for Syrax letting out a mournful roar on the beach was not only bc she felt rhyneras pain but Luke’s dragon arrayx came from one of syraxs eggs. So u had two mothers mourning their babies in that scene :(

  • @noodlem5000
    @noodlem5000 Před 12 dny +570

    It’s hilarious listening to Spartan try and work out the story and then Pudgey comes in and nails it perfectly. Just listen to her mate 😂😂. She’s using context clues

    • @wjohnson1110
      @wjohnson1110 Před 12 dny +14

      ​@@brandonj7458 A little?!? Being generous 😂😂🤣

    • @Androssi709
      @Androssi709 Před 12 dny +55

      That's always! He always thinks he's right and shuts her idead just for her to be right in the end lol

    • @iainsteele5737
      @iainsteele5737 Před 12 dny +12

      @@brandonj7458doubt he can tie his own laces, like talking to a guy with a brain injury

    • @mikea3098
      @mikea3098 Před 12 dny +3

      ​@@iainsteele5737 I bet you are Kyle's dad from Southpark. Dont know what I mean look up the internet troll episode

    • @adk7165
      @adk7165 Před 12 dny +2

      He's not very smart. :/ Yeah...

  • @jamesharland5137
    @jamesharland5137 Před 12 dny +175

    Pudgey giggling uncontrollably is one of the worlds true joys

  • @claydavis8924
    @claydavis8924 Před 12 dny +293

    That Stark theme always HITS. always

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059 Před 12 dny +186

    I'm really glad they did not turn Aegon into a second Joffrey, but made him a more complex character.
    My interpretation of him is that he has felt unloved his entire life, both by his mother and his father, and now that he's king, he is trying to fill that hole by winning the love of the people instead.
    That's also why he was so good with his son and had him attend the small council. It is normal for the king's heir to be attending the small council as a child to learn how ruling the kingdom works, when Rhaenyra was young we also saw her be a cupbearer for Visery's small council for this reason.
    But Aegon never got that treatment from Viserys, as he was not the heir. So now Aegon gives his own son the treatment he feels he was denied by his father, even though Jaehaerys was obviously way too young for it to make any sense.

    • @Taewills
      @Taewills Před 12 dny +16

      He still had his own bastards fighting in the pits, betting on them. Joffrey darkness is still present. I think they listened to complaints about Dany & her sudden switch up in seasons 7 & 8. Most viewers wanted more obvious signs of her darkness/ crazy tendencies.

    • @blueskybelyr
      @blueskybelyr Před 12 dny +15

      @@Taewills but even that felt weird on top of him being a rapist. I feel like they needed those things to make sure Rhaenyra always has the moral high ground no matter what. Kind of annoying. I'd like to see more darkness from Rhaenyra.

    • @ganjahiwalker2641
      @ganjahiwalker2641 Před 12 dny +2

      @@blueskybelyr I don’t believe rhaenyra has the moral high ground anyway

    • @ducksauce9187
      @ducksauce9187 Před 12 dny

      yea only too bad they made him a rapist so no hes still horrible

    • @Hero_Of_Old
      @Hero_Of_Old Před 11 dny +2

      It was a mistake making him a grapist in season 1 though, feels like out of character.

  • @natchattack
    @natchattack Před 12 dny +228

    Haleana picked the boy I think cause she knows it's futile from her visions but also I think her reaction was very believable. In the show she's been kind of on the spectrum so I think her reaction to shock and terror was really well done. Her freaking out and screaming wouldn't make sense with the way she's written in the show

    • @hothotheat3000
      @hothotheat3000 Před 12 dny +39

      They told her, it’s the boy or it’s all of you. So either she loses one child or loses them both. She had no choice but to point.

    • @itsthatgirl98_
      @itsthatgirl98_ Před 12 dny +19

      When she said she was afraid of the rats, she looked straight at little Jaehaerys' crib. And in the Blood and Cheese event she chose Jaehaerys, the prophetic dream she had, she dreamed of his death.

    • @HK-gm8pe
      @HK-gm8pe Před 12 dny +1

      I was thinking that she picked the boy because she knew that this boy wouldnt want to become king and his life would be miserable anyway

    • @vbb2076
      @vbb2076 Před 12 dny +12

      in the scene with aegon, you can hear her say "they only want the boy", and during b&c she seemed to not realize whats happening she has a moment where she almost wakes up and then takes jaehaera. Poor girl, i dont know how her visions work but maybe shes sometime confused between reality and dream?

    • @ericabennett1158
      @ericabennett1158 Před 11 dny +2

      “On the spectrum” so when did GRRM write her on the spectrum???? She’s a dragon dreamer. Not on the spectrum.

  • @Vaeshkar
    @Vaeshkar Před 12 dny +168

    Information: Syrax child dragon (Arrax) was also killed. Two mothers mourning.

    • @Jennifer-2329
      @Jennifer-2329 Před 11 dny +13

      That scene was beautifully done. I didn’t know if others would pick up on the nuance of it.

    • @kiana685
      @kiana685 Před 11 dny +6

      @@Jennifer-2329Did not know that beforehand about Arrax but I still loved that scene. Just thought Syrax was strictly feeling Rhaenyra’s emotions, as riders are so connected to their dragons. Was a beautiful scene indeed.

    • @brianalex5083
      @brianalex5083 Před 10 dny +1

      I really only feel bad for Syrax she had no control over her riders poor decision making

    • @_justinblizzle
      @_justinblizzle Před 7 dny

      That is an unconfirmed rumor. There is absolutely no evidence to this one way or the other. Stop spreading false information.

  • @keanancupido
    @keanancupido Před 12 dny +108

    Fun fact! The dragons actually can't fly over the wall, like Cregan said when he told Jace. I loved the way they added the small detail, because it kinda feels like this show is trying to correct the lore mistakes that GOT made in the later seasons where there were no more books to adapt from, like when Dany took her dragons over to save Jon and gang.

    • @NatashaSalgado
      @NatashaSalgado Před 12 dny +9

      Only Silverwing couldn't fly to the other side of the wall because she was scared of something. This worried queen Alyssane but she didn't force her. I don't know if other dragons couldn't but the one we know about was afraid, maybe she can sense something was off and didn't want to fly there.

    • @keanancupido
      @keanancupido Před 12 dny +6

      @@NatashaSalgado Precisely. I was confused when they said both dragons were there, but it didn't bother me really. But I'd assume that if Silverwing wouldn't go (because Alyssane tried twice I think to take her over) she didn't want to.

    • @jamie_d0g978
      @jamie_d0g978 Před 5 dny

      ​@@NatashaSalgadoThere are certain types of magic that cannot cross the wall and dragons are fire magic in the flesh

  • @returner424
    @returner424 Před 12 dny +86

    Cheese told her: cooperate or i kill you all. It's a horrific choice to have to make, but what happens if you don't choose? All 3 of you die anyway, and both of her children would be gone. By giving up her son she could at least protect one of them

    • @shockwave1126
      @shockwave1126 Před 12 dny +6

      Perhaps she saw a future in store for the daughter. She could not change her son's destiny.

    • @drrohanjacob5343
      @drrohanjacob5343 Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@shockwave1126I mean there is no future for them😂

    • @firecracker1711
      @firecracker1711 Před 12 dny +6

      @@drrohanjacob5343 her daughter marries Rhaenyra's Aegon and is queen for a short time. Its possible shes seen that in a vision and knows she survives.

    • @drrohanjacob5343
      @drrohanjacob5343 Před 12 dny +2

      @@firecracker1711 Emphasis on the short time and then getting unalived by green supporters

    • @LuxLoser
      @LuxLoser Před 6 dny +1

      ​@firecracker1711 Y'all just dropping spoilers here in a blind reaction comment section?

  • @jake4524
    @jake4524 Před 12 dny +299

    28:32 notice how Alicent refers to him as Lucerys "Velaryon". Even though she knows he's a bastard and that caused all that drama in season 1, she refers to him as a Velaryon while she is completely alone, out of respect, which i think says a lot about her as a character

    • @drrohanjacob5343
      @drrohanjacob5343 Před 12 dny +35

      Perhaps her own escapades with crispy Cole made her reevaluate her position.
      Next if we get a black haired daeron😂 must be a reason he is kept hidden at old town amd never invited to the family feasts😂

    • @DanLanningPRTeam
      @DanLanningPRTeam Před 12 dny +1

      Yeah they made the main green a sleeper black 😂😂😂

    • @jake4524
      @jake4524 Před 12 dny +2

      @@drrohanjacob5343 that's actually a great point tbh yeah

    • @drrohanjacob5343
      @drrohanjacob5343 Před 12 dny

      @@jake4524 Yup thanks

    • @midnightcoalexpress
      @midnightcoalexpress Před 12 dny

      Fuck her. This whole war started because she refused to wed Helaena to Jace among many other reasons that stem from him because she was mad at Rhaenyra for what she did. Yet she’s doing the EXAXT SAME THING, with the the EXACT SAME PERSON. The hypocrisy man

  • @dimitrioskantakouzinos8590
    @dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 Před 12 dny +48

    Pudgey about the kid: so cute.
    Me, knowing what will happen to him: 💀

  • @keanancupido
    @keanancupido Před 12 dny +32

    In an interview with Phia who plays Helaena, she explained that she had to point out to Jahaerys in order to save her daughter. It was all about saving at least one child, because she was powerless in that situation. I thought her reaction was very accurate and consistent to her character (in the show) and it was so traumatically done well.

  • @michaelanderson5301
    @michaelanderson5301 Před 12 dny +43

    Scorpions were around before the events in Dance of the Dragons takes place. The Dornish used a scorpion against Meraxes and Rhaenys during Aegon I 's reign.

  • @aarrmmyy7979
    @aarrmmyy7979 Před 12 dny +14

    Spartan you were wearing the right shirt this time😂 The show litteraly started with the iconic Stark music

  • @drsavage3262
    @drsavage3262 Před 12 dny +180

    Emma destroyed this episode with one savage line of dialogue and the emotional range that deserves ALL the awards... And it's only the first episode!

    • @psychic800
      @psychic800 Před 12 dny +19

      It's not that deep bro 😂

    • @manvirshergill1739
      @manvirshergill1739 Před 12 dny +17

      That whole moment where she says "I Want Aemond Targaryen" with the camera work and music playing was freaking phenomenal.

    • @Taewills
      @Taewills Před 12 dny +13

      @@psychic800it is. Which is explained in the BTS. They wanted viewers to feel her grief and vengeance

    • @Chasingdreams25
      @Chasingdreams25 Před 12 dny +9

      ​@@psychic800 It is. One of her brothers stole her throne, the other killed her son.

    • @psychic800
      @psychic800 Před 12 dny +4

      @@Chasingdreams25
      HOTD fans when eye for an eye :- what 😡🤬 , Aemonds mistake , That's wrong
      HOTD fans when son for a son :- hell yeah 🤡 , kill the kid instead z Aemonds mistake 😡🤬.

  • @TorgoMazing
    @TorgoMazing Před 12 dny +335

    Helaena is autistic coded meaning her reaction to this terrible event might not look 'right' in the eyes of some (Shock is crazy for anyone and everyone too though) I believe her 'visions' or dreams aren't clear. She said she fears the rats, and stares at her kid's beds. Its likely what she saw was literal rats just swarming her children and eating them or something. She has to interpret them, perhaps thats why she was so 'spacey' when Blood and Cheese are talking at her. She's realizing that her kids will likely both die if she doesn't do what they ask (Point out the prince) so she did. Plus anyone would panic and dissociate in that instance. Cole's job is to guard the queen and babies but the castle looked very dead in regards to patrols so i think he sent his men away so he could get with Alicent without interuption.

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 Před 12 dny +29

      Nah, they ruined that scene. In the book she is driven mad by the traumatic events. Having visions or being autistic has nothing to do with it.

    • @kylecedrickgraciano9743
      @kylecedrickgraciano9743 Před 12 dny +23

      Yeah and noticed how she relapsed after she went down the staircase, she probably was thinking that all that happened was a dream then she realized that it's happening in real time that's why she gasped.

    • @wjohnson1110
      @wjohnson1110 Před 12 dny +86

      ​@@Rocket1377 Ruined, maybe if you're a know-it-all book reader. Most of you spoil the show with your constant negative bs.

    • @Corlwow
      @Corlwow Před 12 dny +29

      @@wjohnson1110the book readers cant know it all - the book is historical conjecture with some truths - this is just as canon - and it makes more sense - two random assassins want to get their job done and run the heck away, they dont want to glory in it, that was twisted in the accounts in history. (Altho retcon of her not having two sons is indeed a retcon).
      What annoys me more is how they keep trying to reduce Team Black’s responsibility for all the terrible things they do.

    • @roerd
      @roerd Před 12 dny +13

      Yeah, we saw it in the Ice and Fire main series with Bran's visions, how he saw for example Theon's occupation of Winterfell as the sea flooding the castle. It makes a lot of sense that Helaena's visions would be very similar.

  • @Mutazili
    @Mutazili Před 12 dny +49

    Blood and Cheese is way more traumatic in the book, they forced Halaena to choose between two sons and then kill the one she wanted to save---While they were awake.

    • @akaHilton
      @akaHilton Před 12 dny +12

      “Your mommy wants you dead” I wish that line could have been included somehow in the scene. Although very well done, something about B&C felt incomplete to me.

    • @ganjahiwalker2641
      @ganjahiwalker2641 Před 12 dny +4

      @@akaHilton facts, I understand why they toned it down though but I was hoping for more in the lead up to

    • @adamcummings20
      @adamcummings20 Před 12 dny +6

      @akaHilton I think that line specifically wouldn't have fit the Blood and Cheese in the show, they seemed more amateur, frantic and detached, rather than having fun with the job

    • @akaHilton
      @akaHilton Před 12 dny +1

      @@adamcummings20 makes sense, that’s a great point!

    • @Flexorcist3030
      @Flexorcist3030 Před 11 dny +5

      The thing is, it was a Mushroom retelling a “court fool”. So the show being canon. Mushroom making it more dramatic than what it was, makes it ultra realistic.

  • @t.c.thompson2359
    @t.c.thompson2359 Před 12 dny +16

    Damon didn't get a new dragon, he was just visiting his Grandpa's old pet.

  • @Redfield982
    @Redfield982 Před 12 dny +183

    Also, Aegon is a better father to Jaehaerys than Viserys was to Aegon.

    • @ARareBreedStory
      @ARareBreedStory Před 12 dny +64

      But Viserys was a better father to Aegon than Aegon was to his kids he dumped into a fighting pit. lol

    • @CatotheE
      @CatotheE Před 12 dny +8

      @@ARareBreedStory Touché. Lol.

    • @ARareBreedStory
      @ARareBreedStory Před 12 dny +25

      @@CatotheE
      But Aegon was a better father to his fighting pit children than Craster was to his kids. lol

    • @tajaemartin2251
      @tajaemartin2251 Před 12 dny +5

      ​@@ARareBreedStorycope

    • @tajaemartin2251
      @tajaemartin2251 Před 12 dny

      Aegon also a rapist

  • @KelliFranklin
    @KelliFranklin Před 12 dny +9

    No matter which team you're on Emma Darcy's performance as a grieving, vengeful mother was simply wonderful this episode.

  • @lolilie
    @lolilie Před 12 dny +31

    My tip for remembering Erryk and Arryk - Arryk ("A") is with ALICENT (also "A"), Erryk ("E") is with Emma (Rhaenyra). Or, mainly, I just remember NOT Arryk is with Team Black.

    • @MiArcangel
      @MiArcangel Před 12 dny

      Whatever 😂

    • @Adamantium93
      @Adamantium93 Před 9 dny

      Tip for remembering which is which: Erryk is the one who's name starts with an E, Arryk is the one who's name starts with an A.

    • @_justinblizzle
      @_justinblizzle Před 7 dny

      Or that Arryk is w Aegon (the King, it's his Kingsgaurd) & the other Erryk by default is w Rhaenyra or I guess Emma- that's kinda clever

  • @Noahjh23
    @Noahjh23 Před 12 dny +11

    that entire intro is a huge part of why i love your guys reactions 😭 so funny

  • @psI6
    @psI6 Před 11 dny +31

    It's crazy that Rhaenyra only spoke 4 words in this entire episode, yet you feel every single emotions when you see them on screen. That's great acting.

  • @gorubz
    @gorubz Před 12 dny +7

    The Stark's theme song and the crow flying in that scene were just beautiful. The North Remembers!

  • @zachphoenix4522
    @zachphoenix4522 Před 11 dny +5

    Helaena's reaction is definitely in character for how she's portrayed. the dreams and visions have an effect on her and aren't quite clear to her. She realizes as it's happening that her rats are here for the prince. Also earlier she's literally sewing her son's shroud without even realizing it, she unconsciously knows death is coming for her child. She can't stop it either otherwise her and her daughter die as well. Phia(helaena) acted out this scene well. The gasp of air when reality has truly set in was incredible.

  • @derps0n839
    @derps0n839 Před 12 dny +48

    Cregan Stark is carrying Ice, it is almost as tall as he is.

    • @MiArcangel
      @MiArcangel Před 12 dny +3

      Didn't the Lannister melted it to made 2 swords and gave one to Joffrey or something like that?🤔

    • @Daminionz
      @Daminionz Před 12 dny +4

      @@MiArcangel
      Ice was melted not long after it was used to execute Ned Stark. It was melted into two longswords, one given to Joffrey ( Widow's wail ) and the other to Jaime (Oathkeeper) who then passed it down to Brienne of Tarth

    • @dannyKurt
      @dannyKurt Před 12 dny +7

      ​ @MiArcangel This show is set 200 years before game of thrones. So ofc Ice is still intact.

  • @johnnyskinwalker4095
    @johnnyskinwalker4095 Před 12 dny +9

    I think because of the obssesion to prepare him to rule, I think Aegon found little love in his family. So when he was crowned last season and saw the people react to him when he lifted up the sword, he liked it. And so he loved the love he got from the people and he wants to repay them. He wants that love to continue. He's acting like a sort of young rock star. lol
    But he did also loved that boy and now with him dead, I wonder how that will change him.

  • @BennyDeeOz
    @BennyDeeOz Před 12 dny +23

    I remember watching you guys react to the first season of this before game of thrones and I’m so stoked to see you now able to do it full time! Keep going dudes your smashing it 💪🏻

    • @SpartanandPudgey
      @SpartanandPudgey  Před 11 dny +2

      thank you!! that feels like yesterday and it's still some of the most exciting time on the channe 🎉l

  • @r.gvandaele9652
    @r.gvandaele9652 Před 12 dny +24

    I think daemon also didn’t care which son they have to kill after they asked what if aemond is nowhere to be found coz he got quiet after 🤷🏻‍♀️ as long as it’s “ a son for a son” so MAYBE he doesn’t give a damn which son, yet again we dont know what is said after they asked what if aemond is nowhere there or maybe they’re just idiots who wants to do an easy kill for money and cant follow a sinple instruction of whom to kill…. this was my reaction 😨🫣 the whole time I was hearing them cut off the head.. I believe in the books they made her watch her kid get killed

    • @ARareBreedStory
      @ARareBreedStory Před 12 dny +7

      They made her and Alicent both watch, and they made the mother pick which one would [end.] She picked the youngest boy to be [ended] because the older boy was the heir, and the younger boy probably wouldn't understand what was happening.
      So when she chose, they told the younger boy that his mom wanted him [Unalived] then they did the opposite and [ended] the older boy instead.
      It was so good, and Ryan Condal was too stupid to adapt such an easy scene.

  • @giaezrae
    @giaezrae Před 12 dny +8

    lol the raven in the beginning is BRAN!!!!!😂

  • @AriSellassie
    @AriSellassie Před 12 dny +25

    Great intro guys💀 glad to be back in the saddle!

  • @ethantanwenjie9916
    @ethantanwenjie9916 Před 12 dny +10

    I consider halaena's autism as a panic or anxiety attack, too scared to scream or shout. This result in talkless without dialogue yet running adrenaline to save the rest.

  • @abstractnonsense3253
    @abstractnonsense3253 Před 11 dny +3

    I love that you're keeping the bloopers in. And just the right amount of it.

  • @tatihaq
    @tatihaq Před 12 dny +3

    I found you guys through HOTD and never LEFT, I didn't even remember this was how it all started. I'M EXCITED to watch it with you guys

  • @NPA1001
    @NPA1001 Před 12 dny +11

    The squelch sound as the head is being removed … 😵

  • @omgnuub
    @omgnuub Před 12 dny +10

    While dragon and rider are in tune with eachother Syrax likely feels her own pain, more so than sympathy for Rhaenyra.
    Remember that Rhaenyra's sons ride dragons hatched from Syrax's eggs. That's the wing of her spawn washed up on the shore.

  • @Redfield982
    @Redfield982 Před 12 dny +71

    Aegon impressed me in this episode. He’s actually trying to help his subjects while on the throne.

    • @tajaemartin2251
      @tajaemartin2251 Před 12 dny

      He is not, he a rapist lmao yall need to seek help

    • @therocksolid7556
      @therocksolid7556 Před 12 dny +7

      he only car about his reputation but it's not Joffrey yeap, not sur he will keep this mood with his dear young son decapited in his chamber

    • @anais6654
      @anais6654 Před 12 dny +4

      Yeah except the maid did you catch their reaction ?

    • @TheVIVIT
      @TheVIVIT Před 12 dny +11

      He seems like a good guy, Idk why they hate him so much. And he actually cares for his children, unlike Viserys who never gave him attention. But of course, now that his heir's been killed, he's not going to be the same, unfortunately.

    • @cascade1788
      @cascade1788 Před 12 dny +1

      I dunno about that, hes making rash decisions without considering the consequences. Every decision he tried to make to help his subjects would directly harm the war efforts. As much as I was happy to see him having some compassion, he should have made compromises.
      I saw an incompetent king who's more concerned with his image than managing the kingdom, and isn't considering the grander implications of his decisions. The way that they hinted at changing his hand (saying he should appear differently to Vicerys, starting by changing his advisor, likely to Lorys) suggested to me that they plan to manipulate him in that way, because he doesn't know what hes doing.

  • @r.gvandaele9652
    @r.gvandaele9652 Před 12 dny +11

    Omg my heart started racing due to excitement when I saw u guys uploaded this reaction hahahaha 😂 Syrax cried too because ARRAX AND VERMAX are her children 😢 and yes that’s viserys statue

  • @tino10101
    @tino10101 Před 12 dny +17

    my heart aches so much for Helaena. 😢

  • @xXSinForLifeXx
    @xXSinForLifeXx Před 12 dny +22

    She pointed to the son she wasnt lying

    • @prestuvius
      @prestuvius Před 12 dny +2

      She was hoping they would think she was bluffing and choose the girl. But they didn't take the bait.

    • @Nikolas5842
      @Nikolas5842 Před 10 dny +2

      @@prestuvius She knew that they would otherwise kill them all, and wanted to save the girl.

    • @Jumpman67
      @Jumpman67 Před 5 dny

      @@prestuviusnope

    • @erikperhs_
      @erikperhs_ Před 4 dny

      ​@@Nikolas5842 why though? It would make more sense to save the heir

  • @yeezymane
    @yeezymane Před 12 dny +17

    You guys need to look up how that final part of the episode happened in the books. Wish they stuck to source material but underestable why they didn't

    • @ARareBreedStory
      @ARareBreedStory Před 12 dny +14

      How is it understandable? They cut all the interesting parts and gave us bland garbage that had no emotion.

    • @stevenstone307
      @stevenstone307 Před 12 dny +2

      @@ARareBreedStory The books make the Blacks look absolutely savage, whilst the show is trying to make both teams equally sympathetic. I wish Heleana reacted stronger but it's okay I think, it might happen later.

    • @karimabidi8312
      @karimabidi8312 Před 12 dny +2

      ​@@ARareBreedStorythe book version is better but I still like the show version, it was really intense

    • @ARareBreedStory
      @ARareBreedStory Před 12 dny +5

      @@karimabidi8312
      Yeah, if you call putting the audience to sleep intense. lol

    • @ARareBreedStory
      @ARareBreedStory Před 12 dny +4

      @@stevenstone307
      Both sides were savage. Ryan Condal has no clue what he's doing. He's at D&D levels of stupidity.

  • @663lotty
    @663lotty Před 12 dny +7

    Helena is a dragon dreamer, also they were threatening her she had to make a choice or they would murder them all. As the scene goes she is dissociating from what is happening. I think it's perfect behaviour for the way they have developed Helena in the show. People mention it being different in the book, but we don't know which way they go with it.

  • @Alex-qe7bt
    @Alex-qe7bt Před 12 dny +20

    20:05 its believed syrax is arraxs mother, so syrax is mourning the loss of her son too :(

  • @richardsiegel5793
    @richardsiegel5793 Před 11 dny +5

    Ya it was silly for GoT to introduce scorpions (the giant arrows that they shoot at dragons) as if they’re new. Literally Aegon the Conquerer’s sister wife was shot down by one even longer before HotD

    • @scoobysnacks
      @scoobysnacks Před 5 dny

      To be afir it was what...150 years since there had been any dragons in GOT, so 150 years since they had any need to make any scorpions.

  • @rajon94
    @rajon94 Před 12 dny +8

    I agree. This seems like helaena was clearly in a trance or just severe shock. And make a quick decision

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059 Před 12 dny +41

    It was a great episode, but the last scene was toned down a bit in comparison to the book.
    In the book, Helaena has to choose between her two sons, not her daughter, and she chooses her younger son. Then the assassins say to the younger son "see, kid? Your mommy wants you to die."
    And then he chops off the head of the older boy in a single stroke, leaving Helaena to live with the knowledge that she condemned her remaining son to death. It's extremely messed up and there is a bit of controversy in the fandom now if the show missed an opportunity here to create a truly terrifying, Red Wedding level scene.

    • @adins5725
      @adins5725 Před 12 dny +4

      I agree with you and I genuinely wished that scene could have been a little more violent, but you cant blame them either you can't show that much violence in tv nowadays considering all the woke and cancel culture and I'm pretty sure HBO somehow intervened and toned down the scene to avoid any backlash.

    • @Noone91875
      @Noone91875 Před 12 dny

      It was a genuinely a good opener.

    • @space_1073
      @space_1073 Před 12 dny +4

      True, but I think the sounds of the slow sawing is so much more intense than a surprising head chop.

    • @radias2589
      @radias2589 Před 12 dny +10

      There is only so much they can do with actors that young on TV.

    • @frankvandorp2059
      @frankvandorp2059 Před 12 dny +7

      @@adins5725 I have no problem with the scene not being graphic as I didn't expect it to be, Hollywood never shows violence against younglings. And you can achieve the same impact without showing it directly.
      It's more that the dramatic moment of Helaena being forced to choose, having to condemn one of her sons to death, and then seeing the other one killed, adds an extra dimension to how shocking the whole scene is. The scene was good, but it could have been great.

  • @kappa_06
    @kappa_06 Před 12 dny +24

    In the book, this final scene is even worst !
    [spoil this same event from the book]
    ..
    ..
    ..
    ..
    In the book, Blood & Cheese captured Alicent AND Helaena. Queen Helaena have 2 sons and 1 Daughter.
    The killer command Haleana to choose witch boy they must kill. Queen Heleana say "take me, kill me and leave my son". But blood answer : "A son for a son he say, you are not a son. Answer me now or I will kill all child and rape the daughter."
    Helaena, totally broken, pointed out his younger boy Maelor. Blood say to the kid : "See ? Your mother want you to die..." and he kill the older boy, Jaehaerys, and take his head, but leave all other.

  • @schwazroda7882
    @schwazroda7882 Před 12 dny +12

    It is so weird to think you guys watched all of game of thrones in between the first season and this one. When that stark theme played at the start of this episode 🥲

  • @DnD_Guru
    @DnD_Guru Před 12 dny +2

    I'm so happy for Spartan that the show opens with Lord Stark after pudgy throwing shade on his shirt!

  • @izzyjoshuadavis
    @izzyjoshuadavis Před 10 dny +2

    Alicent isn't really pleased when she is told the workers have been disposed of. She was nervous because he was implying she knows what she is up to and has people spying on her and her family.

  • @Nobodyety
    @Nobodyety Před 12 dny +3

    I’ve been rewatching y’all’s GOT’s reaction again because they were to good. Y’all’s enjoyment of the show and the competitive nature y’all have to show one another up, is why I enjoy y’all’s reactions so much. Looking forward to this.

  • @roberthall5580
    @roberthall5580 Před 12 dny +11

    If she didn't point to him... They would've killed both... maybe her too then

  • @soup8900
    @soup8900 Před 11 dny +2

    I'm not even half way through the introduction and already loving the video, you two are so funny and genuine, so happy HotD is back!!!

  • @lplt
    @lplt Před 7 dny +2

    normal human reaction is to "not pick any of the kids" but she made the logical choice, the rat catcher was going to kill all 3 if she didnt

  • @peters4115
    @peters4115 Před 12 dny +3

    I think as far as Halaena’s demeanor during the blood and cheese scene, you could say she did act like she was in a trance. If you were constantly dreaming of the future, how do you know if you’re in the present or future while you’re living thru it? She probably just went thru the motions she’s foreseen and then broke out of it once she grabbed her daughter to get out there.. poor girl living thru these nightmares twice! 😭

  • @Sharpester
    @Sharpester Před 12 dny +3

    The rat catcher clearly said if she didn't point out the boy he'd just kill all 3 of them. As far as her "trance" goes, she seems to always be half in the moment and half in the future, so she seems to be spaced out all the time.

  • @amykate4459
    @amykate4459 Před 7 dny +1

    Alyrie Florent is alicent’s mother who died before the start of s1. So alicent is mourning her mother, viserys, and luke.

  • @irism8951
    @irism8951 Před 11 dny +1

    Did anyone else noticed how she abruptly stopped in one of the hallways midway while escaping with her kid to safety and instead turn a different route and ended up in her mother’s chambers? I wonder if something was in her vision about that as well…. Or are we seeing the three eyed raven somehow is this series as well?

  • @senseitk6812
    @senseitk6812 Před 12 dny +6

    from the start there were hints that helaena is neurodivergent and/or autistic. so her reaction makes complete sense. the way she disassociated in that very serious moment. also given the fact that she is also a dreamer which must make it more difficult to differentiate her visions from reality adding more complexity to the situation. i feel for her big time and i actually like the changes made from the fire and blood lore.

  • @aarrmmyy7979
    @aarrmmyy7979 Před 12 dny +3

    Starting the show with the Stark theme music was iconic

  • @wcbranitly0692
    @wcbranitly0692 Před 12 dny +2

    Pudgey dying laughing in the intro was the freaking cutestest thing ever, so charming

  • @Jennifer-2329
    @Jennifer-2329 Před 11 dny +1

    I don’t normally watch reactions as I don’t watch TV except for HOTD. Unfortunately none of my family and friends have the same passion for Westeros as I do. I found this channel during season one and enjoyed the reactions and interacting with others who share my love of this fantastical land. Looking forward to the next seven weeks with you all.

    • @SpartanandPudgey
      @SpartanandPudgey  Před 11 dny +1

      yep we fully get that and we're glad to be able to share this journey with you 🎉🙏🏼
      gonna be a wild ride this season!

  • @Sagplaya
    @Sagplaya Před 12 dny +7

    I feel like im back to older spartan and pudgey GOT journeys! Lets GO!!

  • @HelenLohre
    @HelenLohre Před 12 dny +60

    aegon lounging on the iron throne and not getting cut by it >>>>>

    • @johnnyskinwalker4095
      @johnnyskinwalker4095 Před 12 dny +2

      Facts

    • @tajaemartin2251
      @tajaemartin2251 Před 12 dny

      He a rapist and also not fit for the throne

    • @pietervangorp267
      @pietervangorp267 Před 12 dny +13

      and then Rhaenyra actually does get cut by it. shows you who is worthy of the throne and who is not.

    • @tajaemartin2251
      @tajaemartin2251 Před 12 dny +8

      @@pietervangorp267 the head canon, the books not canon, its a history book written by maestors the book also said alicent is way older but they friends on the show lmao nice cope the book dont matter cause the show is different so stop use head canon

    • @tajaemartin2251
      @tajaemartin2251 Před 12 dny

      @@pietervangorp267 a rapist worthy? Lmao this is why team green male fans has no bitches yall delusional and watching a different show lmao

  • @fouff925
    @fouff925 Před 12 dny +2

    that was syrax' baby as well :( They were both mourning their child. Also Helena was literally sewing in Jaeherys shroud for his funeral WHILE telling aegon she is scared of the rats. I guess we need to realize she is a big source of information for whatever is to come in the episode's future lmao. I also love the comparison with the government lmaoo "We are taking your sheep sorry. We need to feed our dragons more because we are at war"
    also, in the books, Helena tells blood & cheese to kill her instead and they refuse. She points at the youngest baby and then they kill the oldest one right in front of her

  • @stevemarshall3508
    @stevemarshall3508 Před 9 dny +2

    It really pisses me off when everyone tryna blame Aemon for starting the war. Alicent and Otto did that when they usurped the throne. Like the white worm said, Aemon “only sped up the business”

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059 Před 12 dny +26

    About being on a team, both teams are horrible. For the regular people there is no reason to care about a spoiled rich girl and a spoiled rich boy fighting over a chair, they just want to survive. Right now, they would probably prefer the greens because so far, all they got from team black was a dragon bursting through the floor and killing dozens of innocents, while Aegon is gaining popularity by being generous to his subjects and giving them relief when they ask.
    For the nobility, they're just on the team of whatever side happens to be threatening to burn down their home with a dragon.

    • @anais6654
      @anais6654 Před 12 dny

      Aegon is a rapist

    • @chadwheeler8189
      @chadwheeler8189 Před 12 dny +4

      The story isn't really about the "regular" people, though, is it?

    • @frankvandorp2059
      @frankvandorp2059 Před 12 dny +2

      @@chadwheeler8189 Oh, that means their lives don't matter then. Good point.
      Also, perhaps you haven't read the book, and I'm not going to spoil anything here. But the regular people are going to play a major role in this story.

    • @laza0202
      @laza0202 Před 12 dny +4

      I'm do tired of this "both sides same" bs the hell is wrong w u? First of all that rhaenys scene was invented just for shock cool scene, greens usurped the blacks for no good reason & blacks are resisting the usurpation, if count bad things both sides have done it's in the scale of (greens 20 - 1 blacks) they aren't the same greens are horrible if not for the greens this war wouldn't happen rhaenyra would be a good queen & rule w the help of her council, Jace the perfect crown prince would be next king everything would be alright argue w the wall

    • @frankvandorp2059
      @frankvandorp2059 Před 12 dny

      @@laza0202 If you want a dumb good vs evil show where you can cheer for the goodies and boo the baddies while inhaling popcorn like a total simpleton, watch a Marvel show.
      But this world is a lot more complex and better constructed than the onedimensional snoozefest you're trying to turn it into. Rhaenyra destroyed any hope for stability by putting bastards in the line of succession, which is itself an act of usurpation.
      And Rhaenys' awful scene was invented for the show, but it is still there, you can't just pretend it doesn't exist simply because you don't like it. If you just start ignoring the evil things one side does because you want a side to cheer for like it's a sports match, you're pathetic and you deserve to be mocked into oblivion.

  • @danielleeskelton
    @danielleeskelton Před 12 dny +3

    Glad you are back doing this show. This is how I first found your channel.

  • @LoveKSJW
    @LoveKSJW Před 12 dny +2

    “They didn’t train him for this role at all…” because he’s not supposed to be on the Throne 😂 exactly why Alicent should have known Viserys never changed his mind. They didn’t even try and train the boy when Otto and Alicent were in charge before Viserys died!

  • @marsalien4
    @marsalien4 Před 11 dny +1

    I love that Aegon is cruel to his inner circle but trying to be kind to his people. It's a really interesting character choice, adds a bit of depth to him.

  • @DukeJimbob
    @DukeJimbob Před 12 dny +5

    Just like to congratulate u guys on not thinking the twins were 8 and 10 years old like most reactors thought when the became Kings Guard

    • @DukeJimbob
      @DukeJimbob Před 12 dny

      *they

    • @titosdorito9628
      @titosdorito9628 Před 12 dny +1

      These reactors are more sharp and easy to understand thats why I love them.

  • @barr790
    @barr790 Před 12 dny +6

    We're all here again, same crowd from season 1 and Game Of Thrones 🎉 the next few weeks are gonna be mega. Nice reaction guys ❤

  • @HG-if6pc
    @HG-if6pc Před 10 dny +2

    in the books Joffrey, the youngest son wanted revenge and it was a son for a son not going for Aemond
    Heleana actually pics her youngest son there but they kill the oldest on purpose so the youngest can live with the thought that his mother gave him up, but here she doesn't have a 3rd child

  • @kittykatt7652
    @kittykatt7652 Před 8 dny

    I found it interesting how Larys now stands tall and looks down on Alicent, forcing her to look up at him. Meanwhile, he is hunched over and feeble while talking to Aegon.

  • @Juanstoned
    @Juanstoned Před 12 dny +18

    Alerie Florent - the first candle Alicent lights was her mother. This is the first we ever hear anything about her mother.

    • @NiKiMa023
      @NiKiMa023 Před 12 dny +8

      Nope. This might be the first we hear her name, but her death is addressed a few times in season one.

    • @rRT_1
      @rRT_1 Před 12 dny

      Sure buddy

  • @Jrdn357
    @Jrdn357 Před 12 dny +15

    Bruh, the first thing Spartan said after the episode was pretty much "Phew, I'm pleasantly surprised that they were able to not get caught, thank god they killed that innocent toddler." lmao!

    • @timmcgrath8030
      @timmcgrath8030 Před 11 dny

      Right! I know you're team black but fuck man

    • @ethelann
      @ethelann Před 11 dny

      f them kids, they're irrelevant 😂

  • @TexasNightmare210
    @TexasNightmare210 Před 7 dny

    Heleana is a dreamer/greenseer. She has very real like dreams that predict future events but when she awakens she only remembers parts. This is why she pretty much speaks in riddles.
    Heleana seemed like she was in a trance during that final scene because she legit doesn’t know if she’s dreaming or awake.

  • @skumar93323
    @skumar93323 Před 12 dny +2

    Alerie Florent was Alicent's mother. That's who the first candle was for

  • @EraseMemoriesHD
    @EraseMemoriesHD Před 12 dny +7

    Just a small little tidbit. That scene when Rhaenyra first finds Arraxs' wing and Lukes cloak, it's a bit deeper than you think. Yes Rhaenyra is grieving her son, but Syrax is Arraxs' mother, so she is grieving as well.

  • @AkronRain69
    @AkronRain69 Před 12 dny +51

    Great start to the season!!!! Emma D’Arcy was amazing and they only had one line of dialogue. 👏

  • @rogtiz6006
    @rogtiz6006 Před 11 dny +2

    I hope you know that Rhaenys didn't actually mean "Then I pity Aemond". They just talking about 2v1 against Vhagar.

  • @joly457
    @joly457 Před 12 dny +1

    Arax was Syrax's baby so she not only felt Rhaenera's grief but her own as well.
    That was not 1 but 2 mothers finding the remains of their child and grieving over their loss 😔.

  • @matsaidso
    @matsaidso Před 12 dny +17

    black all the way! and pudgey your buildup had potential girl ✋

  • @kaysnow5567
    @kaysnow5567 Před 12 dny +6

    TG because I find their characters more interesting. Do not care for being more noble, especially in GOT/HOTD when every character do some questionable things.

  • @jonathanpowell7256
    @jonathanpowell7256 Před 10 dny

    Syrax was grieving just as much as Rhaenyra in that scene, she too had lost a child being the mother of Arrax (Luke's dragon).

  • @s1lm4r1l6
    @s1lm4r1l6 Před 11 dny +1

    Pudgey just constantly giggling was simultaneously hilarious and frustrating. You got some patience on you Spartan. :D

  • @tiffanyphillips6086
    @tiffanyphillips6086 Před 12 dny +4

    A son for a son. I'm so excited for this season !!

  • @Jdushdhjd
    @Jdushdhjd Před 12 dny +11

    Team green because even though they are snakes it makes more interesting deep characters

  • @lornamaker3312
    @lornamaker3312 Před 12 dny +1

    It feels like you’ve come full circle. I started watching your channel when you were watching HOTD and I’m so excited we get to experience it with you.

  • @peterd9624
    @peterd9624 Před 8 dny +1

    I am so glad they painted the greens (Aegon) as kind of decent (loving his son i.e. see his interaction with him at the small council) and at Court as opposed to portraying him as a Joffrey like ruler. It makes him grounded and it makes our support for black or greens not so straight forward

  • @queenxx1690
    @queenxx1690 Před 12 dny +4

    B&Ch is not even half as dark as in books

    • @danielleeskelton
      @danielleeskelton Před 12 dny +1

      Making her choose between her sons and then doing the opposite is far darker and more impactful on her. As well as then telling the kid that his mother wanted him dead. So dark.

  • @kylekampling3007
    @kylekampling3007 Před 12 dny +28

    All of the reactions to Blood and Cheese are 100% predictable 😂 Those who have not read the book are in disbelief that the show went that far. The book readers are extremely underwhelmed because it could have been so much more diabolical.

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 Před 12 dny +10

      Yeah, in the book it's much more brutal, almost Red Wedding levels of shocking. They really adapted that part poorly in the show, and once again tried to make the Blacks more sympathetic so we would see them as the "good guys". Blood and Cheese were not sent to kill Aemond in the book.

    • @user-np4gr2je2q
      @user-np4gr2je2q Před 12 dny +6

      ​​@@Rocket1377In the book all we know is that Daemon sent a raven to Rhaenyra to tell her her son would be avenged it could have been sent for Aemond but just played out differently just like in the show the book is written like a history book not an actual book so we dont really know what really happened because its written from the perspective of mushroom and other maesters.

    • @ARareBreedStory
      @ARareBreedStory Před 12 dny

      And Ryan Condal was too stupid to figure outbhow to adapt such an easy scene. He's D&D level trash.

    • @withxoutxlife
      @withxoutxlife Před 12 dny +1

      @@user-np4gr2je2q Precisely. Thank you for keeping a level head and an objective mind. So many ravenous fans looking to nitpick out the gates and its beyond irritating.

    • @CatotheE
      @CatotheE Před 12 dny +1

      @@user-np4gr2je2q It seems unlikely that he expected two peasants to kill Aemond Targaryen.

  • @scarletibis3158
    @scarletibis3158 Před 9 dny +1

    Criston Cole was on duty that night. Otto hightower said it. he and allicent are complicit in their negligence. Allicent lost her grandson and an heir to the throne.

  • @darrylhughes7797
    @darrylhughes7797 Před 11 dny +1

    If the mother hadn't pointed out the one kid "the rats" surely would have killed both kids in order to make sure that they'd gotten the boy. And then she would have lost both of her kids and not just the one. She tried to trick them, it just didn't work.

  • @deanahicks6744
    @deanahicks6744 Před 12 dny +3

    Lets the games begin 😒🤯🫣

  • @willDRfull
    @willDRfull Před 12 dny +9

    Love how no one actually says that Daemon is a monster (and the sneakiest of snake in that episode). Guy order two random to behead a child in his cradle and i guess thats... Alright? Yeah, team Black! (yes I'm team green.). Great reaction as usual guys o/

    • @user-np4gr2je2q
      @user-np4gr2je2q Před 12 dny +1

      Its war and the greens struck first by usurping Rhaenyra and killing Luke Daemon's revenge even though its horrible the greens had it coming all i can say is Karma.

    • @user-xr3ul2xc1l
      @user-xr3ul2xc1l Před 12 dny +6

      ​@user-np4gr2je2q You're a horrible human being and daemon is a sneaky snake. Sneakiest of all snakes is daemon.

    • @wuthebest
      @wuthebest Před 12 dny +3

      I mean he ordered them to kill him, not specifically behead them. Out of curioristy - what do you think Otto or Cole would do with their enemies children? I think you'll find most of the Greens would do the same in the situation. Which is kind of, you know, the whole point of both sides being horrible

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 Před 12 dny +1

      Nobody calls daemon a monster because everyone is well aware of what type of person he is , they were supposed to kill aemond not jeaharys so no , you revealing your team green automatic discredits your argument as your clearly biased .

    • @ARareBreedStory
      @ARareBreedStory Před 12 dny

      Because Daemon is awesome, and those kids were green. They were never destined to see adulthood once their family decided to steal the throne.

  • @AKV9021
    @AKV9021 Před 11 dny +1

    The theory is that Aegon II grew up unloved by his dad & a disappointment to his mum. But when he crowned, the people cheered. He wants to retain their love, so he makes populist decisions.

  • @HG-if6pc
    @HG-if6pc Před 10 dny +2

    The iconic music in the intro is the house Stark music theme