Britain’s New Fringe Parties Explained
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As Britain gears up for a general election this year, we turn the spotlight away from the establishment parties and focus on those on the fringes fighting to steal votes from the major players. So what is it that these small parties actually stand for?
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1 - www.electoralcommission.org.u...
2 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclaim...
3 - www.theguardian.com/politics/...
4 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers...
5 - www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...
6 - www.thenational.scot/news/239...
00:00 Introduction
01:13 The Reclaim Party
02:56 The Workers Party
05:00 The Alba Party
07:09 Brilliant
Fox got beat by a trolling CZcamsr 😭
He got so salty with Max Fosh xD
Last I heard, Fox submitted his paperwork for the Mayoral election with mere hours left before the deadline. So, if there was anything wrong there would be no time to fix it. There was something wrong. He won't be a candidate this time.
@@SquidgyPixel I thought that was Niko Omilana?
@@zaksharman both ran, Niko got more votes though.
Yeah Max can't second to last
Something fishy is going on between Salmon and Sturgeon, not sure exactly what it is yet.
fish are so cool 🐟🐟🐟🐠🐠🦈🦈
I do love a fish pun, sometimes I make one just for the halibut.
(Yes, I did nick that off a penguin wrapper)
Let’s hope that can of worms isn’t opened any time soon…
@@ASocialistTransGirlI've seen you in so many comment sections recently and it's great, go off girl!
@@ASocialistTransGirlI love fish 🦈🐟🐠🐡
American Republicans get compared to British Conservatives, but Republicans and Reclaim sound way closer to each other
Republicans are basically far right at this point, the Conservatives are far less extreme overall (of course both parties have a range of different views within them, but you get the idea)
@@frederickthegreat3912 Lol republicans are nowhere near far right.
@@frederickthegreat3912''basically far right'' lmao
No, the conservatives are far right extreme. Sunak is full in on the racism and transphobia, and the rebels in the party keeps getting louder.
@@frederickthegreat3912 Friendly reminder that the Republican platform on the national scale is effectively the Democrat platform from 30 years ago. The leftist parties are the ones that have changed, but I guess if you don't pay attention you might be convinced otherwise.
Britain will always be a two party system as long as first past the post isn't changed to another type of voting
Well we did vote on it but the propaganda from the 2 parties it benefits was always going to be hard to beat
Yep, none of this matters until a system that supports proportional representation (such as MMP) is implemented
After seeing how pathetic some of these smaller parties are like Reclaim, maybe we should just stick with the two parties
England*
@@nealrigga6969 Well, when think about it, especially with hindsight it opposing lockdowns may give them bragging rights...
2:30 imagine being beaten by a CZcamsr
I voted for that CZcamsr. A much better choice for mayor.
I knew I recognised the name Laurence Fox, I find it somewhat karmic that he lost to a CZcamsr in kids sunglasses.
@@yusaki8064based 🫡
@@Oxijinn_I love it. Fox is so big headed too. like you’d think losing to a CZcamsr who’s not even trying to win, and also losing £10,000 would humble him. But no. He’s still at it. Still thinks he’s super popular with the “silent majority” he’s so annoying lol. All of this is just for his ego doesn’t care about anyone or anything.
@@Oxijinn_ Laurence Fox is now a CZcamsr in sunglasses
Reclaim party is such an embarrassment that they were beaten by a CZcamsr doing it for shits and giggles 💀
Neo-nazis live for taking L's
Yep. In a shithole city with totally broken ethnic politics, a man opposing the rot with the entire media and political establishment against him managed to lose, big surprise.
Even ignoring that, it is a more relevant reflection of how little people in London (probably under 25s) respect their role in their society that they voted for some guy they know off the internet who has no intention of taking his role seriously.
Not surprised since the whole niko for mayor thing was extremely popular…
Its not an embarrassment you just don’t understand politics bud
@@hmishfiddy”bud” 🤓
Imagine voting Reclaim 💀
@hmishfiddy it was popular but you know who wasn't? Lawrence Fox
Crazy that the guy with 20 SA cases just slipped away. Either he's a prolific rapist that escapes justice or someone organized a political attack using the judiciary. Either way someone should be in prison.
For none of the charges to stick, the allegations must have been particularly weak.
@@howtoappearincompletely9739 depends on the nature of the allegations really. SA allegations can be hard to prove given how likely it is to be X says one thing happened, Y says it didn’t, there were no witnesses to reinforce either side. Unless someone comes clean, has accomplices that do, or someone happens to witness it and choose to say something then it comes down to he-said she-said which isn’t strong enough for.a court to convict. 20 allegations is a lot, though the wider political ongoings means it’s worth assessing whose making them and what the given occurences are. Outside a political setting, that many allegations means they’re probably not the quite unpleasant even if they mever do anything illegal.
*are probably unpleasant to be around even if they never do anything illegal, is what the last sentence was supposed to say
@@BurningTNT And yet on the assault and breach of peace arguments he was found not guilty too.
Well given Sturgeon's record of association with criminals including her criminal husband who was in charge of the purse strings, it's safe to say those at the top of the SNP all smell funny.
Salmon was lucky to get out before they crashed the ship.
First past the post makes everyone except LAB CON virtually irrelevant. LAB CON could change this terrible system, but they hate each other LESS than the idea of opening up their duopoly to a new party/parties
There was a referendum on changing the system but people frightened into believing that this could usher in fringe parties. I say good. I believe that had UKIP gained seats, people would have been able to see how useless in power they are.
In a way, through Brexit and Johnson's purge of moderate Tories, UKIP style Tories did get power and the result was, as we have seen, awful. Sadly, Farage and co have capitalised on this, using Tory failure as cover for their own policy failures.
They would form a grand coalition if threatened. Unless of course the Tories get completely wi ped out at the next election
Any party that wins an election has won their election on the back of FPTP so they have no incentive to change it to PR.
Labour have hardly been socially liberal, particularly on trans rights, to be fair.
Looking like green and reform will get around 25% of the vote and no more than a handful of seats between them. Democrazy.
Same happened to UKIP a few elections ago.
To suggest it is undemocratic is crazy. The system is very much democratic, it asks people in a smaller geographical district what they prefer and the candidate that has the plurality takes the seat. In enhances a two party system according to Duvergers law. It is a majoritarian system at hart, which means it result in more higher likelyhood of a government straight after election.
I'm fine with the criticism of majoritarian systems. Id rather have more proportionality, like a mixed system. But to suggest it is less democratic than proportional is stupid. People need to understand the system, and understand that if they vote for a party that is polling poorly in their constituency is fine but dont get annoyed if they dont get elected you could of voted for a larger party and it would not of been wasted.
But on to the issue of proportional system. They do have benefits to allow a more wider proportion of populations views to be taken into account. However, then you are very rarely voting for a party based on what policy they will implement and more if you agree with them on the whole. Because coalitions can take time to form and there is no guarantee to get the policy a proportion of society want. Additionally, people will then need to learn that the outcome of the system is also different. The largest party is not guaranteed to govern. Like in Poland, which for many in the UK would be perceived as unfair. I bring this point up because if we changed you would get conservatives winning elections then complaining why are they not in government.
@@lenabo9929I disagree
@@lenabo9929 why is it no-one else uses it. Fptp has brought us disaster in the UK. Even Brexit Ref was decided with the UK basically half and half.
@@MatthewJBDUKIPs best ever result was just over 12%.
2:28 Losing to Niko is probably a sadder thing than losing the deposit
Niko in a TLDR video
NDL
letsgo
@@ASocialistTransGirl I've seen you before but can't remember where
@@zhongcena I am everywhere
also in TLDR news’ comments a lot
I find it interesting to the extent to which transgender issues constitute a unique wedge social topic in British politics. It splits and left and centre in a way it really doesn't in the US, because the issue is often framed more as sex-based vs. gender-based rights than as social conservatives vs. social liberals. It also touches on areas like the NHS and what constitutes hate speech, which are also obviously very different.
The contrast between British and American political debate over the same topic, driven by the same cultural shifts, says a lot about other ways British and American politics differ.
The goverment telling you what "hate speech" constitutes is insane.
Most people do not care.
Niko coming in fifth in the London Mayoral Election will never not be funny
agreed
Left wing economic but socially moderate/conservative seems to be a very untapped demographic. If George Galloway wasn't so polarising then that formula could be deadly for labour.
True. The majority of the UK is conservative socially but its the economics that usually cause the divisions.
Parties across Europe have seen a lot of success by tapping in on those voters (though they often go for far right socially)
Left wing economic and conservative sounds amazing, I want a party like that for Australia though anti religious
It's just a shame he's backed by the Islamists.
@@BlueBird-wb6kb Finally, a party for kissless virgins
I've read that another difference between the SNP and Alba is that Alba is not just calling for Scottish Independence, but for a Scottish Republic with a president modeled after the President of Ireland.
So would you say alba is maybe to the left of the snp on some issues, probably they will merge like Jim sillars party, one day, to the snp again. Unless pr suits them otherwise.
Wait, is that to suggest SNP proposes keeping the monarchy for an independent Scotland, or at least is open to the idea? (And thus, Alba, being explicitly republican, is opposed to)
@@dairebulson7122 To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what kind of government the SNP desires for an independent Scotland. I have heard it described as repealing the 1703 Act of Union and having Charles III be King of England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland (Wales is part of the Kingdom of England)
Edit-Upon further review, the SNP favors Scotland retaining the monarchy as a commonwealth realm, similar to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica (for now), etc...
@@joshuawells835 Thanks for looking into that. I'm in Scotland and was getting confused by the whole thing !
I guess they're called "Reclaim" because they're still trying to "reclaim" their deposit
this is so real lol they lost to a yt who was just trolling (ok tbf he tried to make young people more intersed inn politics)
You're just a hater, Reclaim would help Britain.
@@BlueBird-wb6kb nah, max fosh would
@pewgarpolls what about Niko?
@@BlueBird-wb6kb They'd help make a small number of awful people very rich at the cost of hurting British workers and harming our international reputation irrevocably
For what it's worth - the WPGB endorsement camt from CPGB-ML, not CPGB (easy mistake to make)
The peoples front of judea apparently endorsed them too
@@michaelthompson679 you mean the judean peoples front
@@ComradeLibertarian No it was the Popular Front
@@Sky-pg8jmPEOPLE'S Front, the Popular Front are a bunch of splitters
The CPB actually. They sent a contingent down to support Galloway during the Rochdale by-election and ran positive coverage in the Morning Star. The CPGB-ML were originally in coalition with the Workers Party, and helped found it back in 2019. They later split due from the party due to an internal power struggle, which saw the Brars expel the sections that lead the WPB.
Gender reform has nothing to do with left or right wing, it sits on the progressive-traditionalist spectrum.
NEVER FORGET when the NDL led by a CZcamsr won more votes than Laurence Fox's Party despite more than half of NDL's fans being ineligible to vote which would've thrashed Reclaim even more. 🤣🤣🤣
So basically, these are vanity projects of grumpy old men.
Welcome to politics
That's how political parties have been created and will continue to be created until the end of political parties as a concept
Though Fox isn't that old, that's a depressingly accurate description.
The Workers Party has a swiftly growing youth organisation actually.
If you're from Scotland, then that ageist remark should be reported under the new hate law..........
TUSC stand the most candidates out of all the alternatives left parties. Their omission here is disappointing.
TUSC is a great example but doesn’t have any elected MPs. For the sake of video length they’ve only focused on those that have representatives in parliament.
TUSC and the WPB have positive relations and observance of each other. With that said, TUSC have performed dismally up to this point, losing their deposits in contests up and down the country with their broad but ultimately rather shallow campaigns. It is actually rather fitting that TUSC have been omitted, as they're presently even more obscure that these other parties. There was a time when they could have been considered a contender in the socialist left wing space, but the WPB are now at this point on a similar footing to the Greens from a parliamentary standpoint, lifting them head and shoulders above any other fringe left wing effort.
TUSC have performed horribly. Everyone needs to jump ship to the BWP, a party with an actual elected MP. It's the only hope for genuine left wing represenation in british parliment as so far there is none. just liberal noise.
@@DeezN1892 The Workers party are nothing without Galloway and will struggle for support if he loses his Rochdale seat.
TUSC have fielded the 6th most local election candidates in the UK. How many have the Workers party put forward?
PR NOW!
You want PR what version because it matters. Full proportionality, or more of a mixed system like Scotland uses. I support having more proportionality, however, we need to agree on the system between all parties. And reform needs to wider than that. England in particular needs to take devolution much more seriously. The whole of the UK should either be federalised or have devolution. Westminster has far too much power. The lords need overhaul unsure best root for that.
Electoral reform in general has been overdue for a while now. Unfortunately, neither of the two parties want it because that would mean the duopoly gets broken and they would have to start listening to the British public instead of their rich mates in the media, private sector and lobby groups. Hence why you'd have the Labour right and so-called "moderate" Tories doom-mongering about Reform UK getting seats (when in reality, they're more scared of the Greens and independent leftist parties) and the Tory hard right fearmongering about the "hard left" gaining seats (as demonstrated by Jacob Rees-Mogg's utter farce of a "case" against it).
@@lenabo9929100% agree
Mainstream parties: “Who are you?”
Fringe parties: “I am you but even more transphobic”
Like the rest of the population then?
The Lab Tory Uniparty loves troons.
That's what pains me the most about Galloway and his party tbh...
@@elpito9326 trans and gays have some very strange allegiances. Mostly with people that hate you. It's bizarre.
@@elpito9326because he's against self-harm?
Plaid Cymru is the third largest political party in Wales, with 11 of 60 seats in the Senedd and 202 principal local authority councillors.
The mental strength to talk so neutrally about Lawrence Fox is incredibly impressive
You cited a policy labour abandoned to claim they are socially liberal...
Labour, and the Cons, don't know what they are anymore. Just depends which way the wind is blowing on that day. It's pathetic from them, and is for putting up with it. Tony Blair ruined UK politics.
Lol exactly these guys are morons
@@alistairmonro In what way do the Conservatives flip between socialist and right wing?
@@boozecruiser either you don't follow politics, you don't know what left vs right is, or you are stuck in the Tories are bastard's mentality. They are all the same. Tories have been known for rebranding Labour policy. It's one of the reasons Starmer won't say anything beyond "we plan to make things better". It's all a facade there are no real options, there is no democracy.
@@boozecruiser well in 2017 they were saying that "being trans is not an illness" and said they were "determined to end homophobic and transphobic bullying" but 7 years later the transphobic bullying is coming directly from the leader of the party! im sure they will go back to the 2017 rhetoric the moment being hateful and scapegoating stops working
please allow the smaller parties to win seats and put an end to this 2 party, corrupt, monopoly system. I'm voting for the Green party, any party willing to tax the rich and nationalise all public services including water, energy, and NHS gets by vote. Labour and Conservatives are both funded by rich private equity firms, as long as they stay in power this country will become highly unequal third world country
to be fair though, any party that gains significant power will be corrupted by corporate influence...if the greens were in power they would see themselves gradually become a variation on Con. and Lab. with slightly differing superficial policies.
And having a PR system over FPTP wouldn't improve the corruption in itself, if other countries with such systems around the world are anything to go by.
NDL
"Please allow ....." ?
The trouble with the UK system is that especially since Tony Blair, labor and the Tories have been effectively the same policies just at slightly different speeds regarding everything from immigration to taxation.
The American system used to have this problem particularly under Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, however it has since fixed this issue as the Republicans and Democrats now our two very different brands of crazy, hopefully something similar can happen in Britain.
What about the Loony party? Big omission!
They arent new
They are much too dignified a party to be lumped in with this lot.
this video wasn't about major parties
They already did a video years back I believe
which one?
ho ho ho
When 1st past the post is still used. Britian is still a 2 party system.
One-party system - totalitarian
Two-party system - democracy
I would say two and a half given minority goverments
@@wenterinfaer1656The best one party system is a two party system.
@@wenterinfaer1656South Africa has a one party system.
Weird to cite the Workers Party opposition to self-ID as an example of how they are more socially conservative than Labour, given that Labour also opposes self-ID, isn't it?
The Workers Party is socially conservative insofar as they represent blue collar working class values: traditional family values, community, having our own industry, socialist patriotism, against liberal identity politics, against gender ideology, etc. A conservative socialism, if you will.
@@_Wakaz_ That sounds like a IDEAL world.
@@Darkest_matteryeah ideal for stupid people
@@Darkest_matter Yeah a national socialism
@@_Wakaz_ Oh right, so just a different economic approach to the usual right-wing politics.
1:30 wait, Isn't that the Max Fosh antagoist in the race for the Mayor of London ?!?!?!
You forgot the 'lets have another party party'
That sounds like a party Boris would get behind.
@@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l lol
George Galloway is a nut
Galloway is pro human
If it benefit’s his political causes, just saying
@@DeezN1892 >anti-NATO and anti-EU
>"pro-human"
@@fiyum333 member states in the EU and especially NATO have orchestrated the most awful atrocities in the history of the entire planet across the 20th century
The proxy wars, overthrowing elected governments, electing the fash in South America by sponsoring assassinations. God it’s so awful. Either you’re educated on it or you better get educated
These cartels don’t like you. Why are you loyal to them?
@@fiyum333 hes anti EU because of the literal neo-imperialism they orchestrate across Africa.
You have been duped by claims of “diversity and inclusion” whilst multi-national European companies have kids in Africa enslaved in gold mines
2:34 Why do you use a graphic of US dollars when talking about British pounds?
When talking about Politics please actually say what the opinions they were censured on, not just the topic they had an opinion on.
Would love another one of these looking at even more of the smaller parties like SDP. You do such a good job of just telling all the info,
More parties the better, Labour and the Tories have failed us too many times.
Sadly if one doesn’t get enough votes the two fuckwit ones will stay on top it should of been a third party not 3 as it spreads out the votes too much
A slight problem for your narrative here, Alex Salmond didn't found Alba: it was founded by Laurie Flynn. Alec was just its first leader.
That seems like a mistake not a “problem in a narrative.”
@@dkoda840 Aye, it's a mistake but one that fundamentally changes the character of the discussion and therefore creates a false narrative. They're arguing that the Alba party was founded as a result of the personal fallout between Salmond and Sturgeon (Fish fight!). However, that ignores the fact that the Alba party was actually formed due to a broader feeling of dissatisfaction with the SNP's independence strategy and a lack of accountability within the leadership team.
@@bjiornbjiorn I replied to this comment before that section came up I watched the full video and yea I agree it does mess with the narrative. Granted I haven’t looked into the reason Laurie Flynn started the party so it could be a similar reason but yea this mistake does change the discussion.
big up the NDL
Only good party these days.
niko could run the uk better than our past 5 prime ministers
5:11 Alex Salmond
hey i remember this guy
they made a parody of him as Shrek! 😆
Labour needs to be replaced by a 'real' left-wing party. Labour is not left anymore, I hasn't been for the past 14 years.
Workers Party of Britain is the closest thing to a "real" left wing party. It's just extremely disappointing it's backed by the very ppl who need to be removed from British shores.
@@RextheRebel ok pro-genocide sadist.
It's so funny seeing the mayor election where Niko Omilana (look up on youtube if you don't know him) beat Laurence Fox
Funny seeing London falling to its knees hahaha
@@garywhapples7172 I'd be more worried about London if they thought Laurence Fox spoke any sense
He was way below Count Binface
@@garywhapples7172except London and the south east are the only net contributors to the exchequer, so if you don’t live in London then London is effectively subsidising your local services
@@jamesormondroyd1009 some boroughs of London ie Newham spend 9 times more than they contribute. (look it up) I live just outside of London and I can say with certainty that we're huge contributors, probably funding places like Newham, Tower hamlets etc
Every video with Ben looking confused in the thumbnail is automatically a great video.
Workers party is the best bet for this election
I think the SDP is likely a more serious political force than Reclaim
But aren't new.
2:29 NDL RISE UP!!!
yesssma'am
You know a party is fringe when the TLDR News video about it has a photo of the host making a funny face that screams "Why are we even talking about this?", rather than a photo of any of the parties' leaders.
"as a result, he lost his 10,000 election deposit" is cold
Lol, if you cant do your paperwork then you dont get to be mayor
Even though these three look pretty bad, I still think it’s good to have more competition other than the two main parties.
yea, we got racist conservatives, racist labour, and racist snp
@@THTB_lol they didn’t seem racist. Unless you’re one of those people who consider criticism or being against illegal immigration as being “racist”
@@Shlepp nice dogwhistle
@@THTB_lol I’d take that as a yes then. Im sorry for you
@@Shlepp your dogwhistle is broken and can now be heard as racism by everyone
Create a video about UK’s free ports & Special Economic Zones (SEZs) and how these will impact our way of life. I'd be really interested to see how you frame the predicted impact.
Seeing nikos image there is amzing
Three parties that are personality cults
lol as if any of the other parties are any different. It's politics. Plus the workers party isn't by any objective standard. Their manifesto is the most intelligent on offer.
@@shamanahaboolist nah G... check yourself. being anti EU and anti NATO is such a big turnoff, since obviously brexit was bad and nato is beneficial to our national security. If i had to sacrifice my life to stop the workers party being in office, I'd do it because of how dangerous they would be. a socialist workers party that doesn't want to do suicidal things would be much more appropriate.
@@shamanahaboolistthe difference between these 3 parties and the major ones are that these 3 are known primarily for one person, while, say, Labour is known more for..other things
Actually I'm going to stop because idk what I'm trying to say
@@BritishRepublicsn lol
Fair enough bud. Yeah... Just sit back and enjoy the desperation involved in making your primary criticism of a politician being that people like their personality. 😂
@@shamanahaboolist The Worker's party's manifesto is intelligent XD. That's a take. They are a party of fifth columnists who want to be friends with all our enemies like Russia and Palestine while abandoning the best defensive alliance in the world while pandering to the backwards minority of Muslims.
Dude it's crazy how Gender just breaks UK politics
It sadly makes perfect sense when you consider the history of feminism in the UK. While feminism outside of the UK (broadly) aligned itself with the queer theory movement and intersectional feminism, British feminism dove deep into so-called "gender critical" strands of the movement, to the point of allying with anti-abortion far right movements
This broadly lead progressivism in Britain to lag behind in terms of trans rights
@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 "While feminism outside of the UK (broadly) aligned itself with the queer theory movement" 🤣 Talk to the middle east, Asia and south America.
@@gtrdxz middle eastern progressivism is very much queer friendly, it's just... Very very non-prevalent considering the various governments' stances
Not particularly familiar with South American or Asian progressive movements so I won't comment on that
@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Anti-abortion is good bruh. it shows you actually are responsible. you can't always just fuck around..... sometimes, you gotta fuck around and find out.
@@Darkest_matter you won't convince a woman with this argument lol
If you want to ban abortion your target is either to reduce the amount of people having sex or to control women's bodies. Which, as targets, are respectively impossible/useless and abhorrent
0:27 Looking at the video from 2 years ago, I see that you quickly skipped over Wales then, too.
What new parties are in wales?
@@MiningForPies Gwlad was founded in 2018 and Propel was founded in 2019. They each have one councillor.
Correction: Propel was founded in 2020.
Thank you...
its interesting that criticizing israel is always antisemitic, even if its about their ethics and conduct. Whats the word for being against someone who kills babies, women, civilians and their own people if caught in the crossfire?
Thats not what happened here. I'm pro palestine and highly critical of isreal. I believe they are commiting war crimes. I have experienced false allegations of antisemitism. The difference is that galloway isn't promoting just valid criticism of isreal but also truly bizzare conspiracy theories implying a jewish social elite that control western politics. It is very important to seperate these two things. There is ne secret kabal. This is just a wealthy nation attacking an impoverished one. If isreal was christian it would likely be doing the exact same thing. The enemy of your enemy is NOT your freind. Supporting palestine does not require the belief of antisemitic conspiracy theory.
Remarkable that all three of these parties are socially conservative
it's not particularly surprising. The internet has basically forced American culture war issues onto the political agenda here, moving the focus away from bread-and-butter issues. And almost all of the mainstream parties are on one side of those issues, leaving social conservatism as the obvious gap to fill. The only mainstream party that is clearly socially conservative is the DUP. The Conservatives are socially conservative on some issues, but have managed to give their base the impression that they are only paying lip-service to social conservatism on those issues.
That said, these parties are quite difficult .Galloway isn't playing to the large proportion of the population who are left-wing on economics but socially conservative, he's playing specifically to the Muslim vote. Salmond's party is largely a vanity project, but reflects the fact that the SNP vote is all over the place on issues other than independence. And Reclaim are basically just a particularly prominent UKIP splinter group.
They wouldn't have been considered so 20 years ago...
@@PiousMoltar I hate to be the one that points it out but yeah... that's how conservatism tends to go. 20 years ago gay marriage had only been legal for a year and there was still considerable opposition to it. Remaining progressive requires that you adapt to new information and listen to new points of view. If Your attitude would be more at home in an older and more conservative world then that attitude is by definition leaning towards conservatism. in 1924 you could have said "20 years ago i wouldn't have been seen as socially conservative to support slave ownership." Times arrow keeps marching on and it is important to allow progress to happen in spite of the fact you won't always be immediately comfortable with it. You will have concerns. it will seem new and strange and scary. You work through that and try to make life better for those who haven't had a chance to be heard. Change is necessary and fundamentaly benefits social mobility for everyone. Not all that is new will work out but it is worth hearing out those new ideas and challenging old ideas.
@@PiousMoltar They would have. The overton window has moved right and the "mainstream" right wing parties are more extreme. The mainstream "left wing" parties are holding steady or have even shifted rightwards since the 80s
Since when were communists conservative?
Calling them “fringe parties” is hilarious they believe basically the same things as the others
Fineley alternativs grows, most needed. Hale deversety. 3 thumps up
Everytime I watch content about the UK, I have to remind myself that the US has our colors inverted, blue= liberal, red= conservative
Red has been the colour of left wing movements globally for a while
@@ethanfarmisa1439 yeah it’s just the opposite in the US which always throughs me off.
There is no left wing in the US. The dems world be on the right of the Tory party
@@cneofficial3958 you guys used to have red/republicans for liberal, before the great switch
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4:06 What was the comment made about Iraq exactly?
Galloway claimed Saddam Hussein was "fighting the good fight" or something like that.
Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability, and I want you to know that we are with you, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Quds [until victory, until Jerusalem].
Galloway is a really nasty piece of work.
@@MiningForPies Galloway is basically the orthodox British tankie whose greatest idol is Joseph Stalin
As Brits, I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on joke candidates (like Lord Buckethead (assuming he's still kicking around :P))
What TLDR fails to point out is that unlike most left-wing party in Britain, the WPGB is staunchly-unionist and is against regional autonomy. So basically, the WPGB is the closest thing Britain has to the CPSU
But the Bolsheviks created the different Soviet republics which had absolutely no autonomy before, other than whatever the feudal system granted them (and that was based on feudal posessions rather than culture).
Without the USSR, it's likely that Belarusian, Kazakh and many other languages would either be extinct or in a far worse position than nowadays.
@@elpito9326 Despite ethnic minorities given some right to manage their own republics, it didn't stop the central policy of Russification occuring in the non-Russian republics
4:16 The US wants to desperately extradite Julian Assange, what's the conspiracy?
the people who run the channel are left wing so they chuck that word around like its a tennis ball for a dog.
@@thetreelander7378 Just to be clear, the video doesn't use the word conspiracy when talking about Galloway: that's the OP's word choice.
If there was any conspiracy theory around Assange it was that the sexual assault charges in Sweden had been invented so that he would be arrested and then subsequently extradited to the USA. Now, I don't think anyone would dispute that that is what would probably happen, especially given the USA's refusal to rule out extraditing Assange from Sweden at the time. However I think it crosses the line when you argue that the sexual assault charges were deliberately fabricated without any real evidence or a court case. If anything, at the time, I was angry with the USA because, by refusing to rule out extradition, they were not only denying Assange the opportunity to try and clear his name, which he said he wanted to do at the time, but they also effectively denied his accusers their opportunity to seek justice in court.
@@bjiornbjiorn yeah i know that but this channel chucks it about a bit to much for it to be used by its actual meaning.
call me cynical.
Reminds me of countries that segregate into one-policy fringe parties that just erode the whole system to the point that people either stop caring about politics (to make matters even worse) or, even if they did, couldnt figure out who stands for what.
Where’s the other video? Was it deleted?
The workers party reminds me of the old brazilian workers party. Stood for more "socially conservative" ideas till the 90's
SDP >>>
It's fascinating reading the comments and seeing just how ignorant a lot of the people who watch these videos are of alternative political views.
Tumbleweeds. They go wherever the wind takes them.
2:28 Niko lmao
The video on Britain's New Fringe Parties gives us a good look at the UK's political scene. But, looking ahead, the big question is how the UK can create a stable and growing future. With big changes coming from AI technology, central bank digital currencies and the escalating tensions in conflict zones, every political party faces tough challenges.
Stability, a clear plan, and agreement among MPs on the UK's direction are key. We need to learn from the Brexit mess and not expect quick fixes for deep-rooted problems. Also, the media's role is crucial. Right now, they're pushing the idea that the Labour Party will be the next government because of their lead in polls. But in reality, nothing is guaranteed in politics.
In short, the UK needs to focus on long-term solutions and be careful with how the media shapes our view of politics.
You missed the SDP. They are contesting about 100 seats at the next election.
They aren't new.
What about the Heritage party run by David Kurten .
I can't see any of these parties winning a single seat between them.
I’d be surprised if Galloway even bothers standing in Rochdale at the election. He has form of wining by-elections and running away when it’s no longer a protest vote
Is there any plans for Britain changing its first past the post system? Otherwise any smaller parties have no chance.
the big parties crushed that
Guys check out our fringe political parties, we’ve got:
The racist
The racist
The racist
The racist
The racist and also a TERF
The racist
Good. Just like the population.
its more like racist tories, racist labour, racist snp
@@THTB_lol the Tories are already the racist Tories
@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 but somehow reclaim are more racist
I'd also like to mention the Transform party, if anyone is interested in an actual left wing option
Eh, Transform is just another iteration of people thinking they are gonna the ones to unify the constantly collapsing and merging ecosystem of the fringe far-left no one cares about.
Looks interesting. Main thing now is getting the tories out though.
@@MiningForPies yeah Transform definitely still needs more time to grow before making any real dents
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in my country of America, there are multple third parties but to date there are no third party member of congress and the house of reps
libertarians are the closest
True
Defo a time for change
No labour and no Tories.
You're good at saying what you don't want. But when given the opportunity to govern, you make a mess of it.
We need proportional representation first. Otherwise even if both big parties are somehow brought down they will just be replaced by two new equally big parties fighting to win over middle ground voters and enacting policies for their millionaire funders. That's just the outcome our electoral system is set up to produce. If you want change you have to change the rules of the game, not just replace the playing pieces
Given the options: I much rather be governed by a party with SOME experience rather than none.
This is like giving the responsibility to a 5 year old and being shocked that they left the oven on.
Alba should be pronounced Alpa. As its the Gaelic for Scotland. Otherwise, great content as always
It's more like "Al-uh-pa", that extra little sound in the middle trips a lot of folks up.
There is no such language as Gaelic.
@@MiningForPies Are you going to insist on its being called Gàidhlig?
Pronouncing names from one language in another can often be a cause for debate. How many native English-speakers pronounce the German car maker Volkswagen as a native German-speaker would, i.e. 'Folksvaagen'? The same applies to Citröen, which strictly speaking should be pronounced differently from 'citron', the French word for lemon. P.S. I am Scottish and studied French and German at university and I anglicise my pronunciation of both these names.
That isn’t how you pronounce it either.
when the two main parties are so mediocre and controlled, its no wonder that other "fringe" parties tend to pop up.
It's very easy to look at the UK and assume we have a two party system; except we don't, we have a one patry system where everyone suspiciously keeps voting for the same government and the opposition plays the role of it's own opposition.
I haven't watched the whole video, but I reckon the political party with the "R" symbol as a Republican Party in the thumbnail
Republican means different things depending on where you are. In Ireland a republican is someone who wants northern Ireland to integrate with the republic of Ireland and they are generally more left wing. Republicans in the USA are right wing
@@blubblewubble I know, I meant that I thought it was about a party in the UK that wanted to replace a monarchy with a republic
@@flmisif only there were one
Alba is pronounced "Al-ah-pah". Although Salmond also mispronounced the name as well. Sorry to be a stickler, but Scottish Gaelic is being cynically used to make Alba look more Scottish than the SNP, whilst failing to understand and appreciate the community - at least that's my opinion as a non-Gaelic speaker
Alba also said they specifically want a republican Scotland. The SNP isn't too sure. Nicola Sturgeon is a convinced monarchist, for example. Humza Yousaf may lean a bit republican because at a football game between Scotland and England, when English fans sang "God Save the King", some Scots booed, with Yousaf, who was present, smugging.
Why is the London mayorial election deposit 20 times higher than an MP's deposit?
London prices init
Left wing but socially conservative or moderate is one of least talked about in news.
Really? I thought that whenever ones suggest such ideas that are likely to resonate well among voters, he is being screamed away by all establishment media as "right wing populist".
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Conservatives ARE the establishment
Worker's Party just sounds like someone wanted to create a party with the objectively worst policies
Interesting that you don’t even mention Reform party… curiouser and curiouser! 😂
he literally made half a dozen videos about it
Why is one logo a cross between the galactic empire and Vault-Tec?
Dood. What the hell is up with this pendulum effect? History has shown us, REPEATEDLY, that overly conservative and/or right-wing governments and policies NEVER end well.... for anyone but the douchebags in charge. It's bad enough seeing it here in the US, but I thought Europe would know better than to go down that rabbit hole again...
People have shockingly short memories, especially over generations. History will repeat as long as most of the public is ignorant to it. That's why its in the government's best interest to keep the people uneducated on politics.
Well we're about to swing back to the left wing party, but a lot of Europe is swinging to the right. When you've only got 2 main parties that's what's going to happen.
I wouldn't call labour, left wing. @@chesterdonnelly1212
@@chesterdonnelly1212A left wing party that won’t change anything
Right now we're observing left wing mass migration and deindustrialization policies not going specially well and causing backslash...
If Galloway is pro-Muslim then I'm anti-George Galloway.
Based
Deport racists to rawanda
Most muslims aren't evil. And I'm an apostate
Anyone else find the audio on these videos really sharp and to listen to?
That's a lot of 'controversial' statements and positions attributed to Galloway with absolutely no detail about which direction he actually took on those issues. From this breakdown he could be anything from a raging antisemite to a mild anti-genocide protester.
I think they made it pretty clear where he stands on that front.
Had to pause the video to see what was so "controversial" that he said about Julian Assange though.
Why the Reclaim's leader looks like he's going to cry?
his wife left him for being racist. he's a broken man
because he lost to a youtuber in children's sunglasses
"Fringe parties" is a pretty anti democatic term