how to install a floyd rose locking nut on fender neck
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2018
- in this video i teach you how to install a floyd rose locking nut on a fender stratocaster neck.
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Thank you Will, for passing on your knowledge. I'm sure it comes from the trial and error of doing it numerous times. Also, Passing it on for free is much appreciated because you have no obligation to do it. Very cool.
Sometimes we say stupid things when drunk, and sometimes we wake up paranoid we said or did something dumber than we actually did. Don’t sweat it, appreciate the content
Loved the comments about doing certain things when Drunk. All been here, and I feel ya on that!
Eddie is my biggest inspiration when it comes to guitar playing, so really want to have a Floyd soon. Eddie and Randy will always be top 2!!!!
Don’t forget Brad
And dimebag
I am sure you can do guitar work and install the nut as well or better than Eddie the hack guitar builder.
Best video on how to do this on CZcams. I've got a neck that I need to do this on, and your vid gives me the confidence to know I can pull it off. Thanks!!!
Thanks for making and sharing this very helpful and informative video Will.
Wish you all the best and that everything in your life will keep improving after all you went through.
Happy for your channel recovery that will always remain an important pillar of this community.
Awesome Vid ! Beautiful job ! At my old shop we were doing so many Dave Murray type strats , we had to get a milling machine. Then i had to show everyone how to change end mills.
Excellent tip on using the radius block as a guide! I got mine all strung up and realized I still needed to shave off another hair. Thanks man!
My radius blocks are dual sided so i can't use them😓
I dont know what up with u these days. Of course. But, i love your attitude. The bit where u were working and talking on a side note, about drinking the previous night. I was laughing my ass off. Love it man. You seem like you have found a little inner peace. For the now. Hopefully it lasts awhile or forever for you. It nevet lasts long enuff for me. Have a good one man.
I will be installing a locking nut and Floyd on the neck thru Strat soon. I REALLY appreciate this video!
Will, I’ve watched a lot of your videos. You’re one of the best on CZcams! Hope things work out out for you man.
This video answered one of the hardest things I've tried to research....what Floyd Rose nut fits a Fender 1.650 width neck (ala MIM Strat)? Answer: The R3 with narrow string spacing. And it looks to be a perfect fit on the MIM neck. No obvious overhang right or left, which is what matters. The overhang towards the tuners is just fine.
Floyded Fenders are truly "super"-strats. This is a timely vid for me and I will definitely use my radius block to provide a level surface for the base of my router. (I was actually over thinking the problem and was going to build a primitive jig to do the same job!)
Mine is a cheap strat aftermarket neck now "beaked" like an early Pacer. Thanks for the helpful clip.
Best video in a while, thanks, really chill, enjoyable and learned a few things. Super nice.
Loads of useful info - thank you so much. And something back for you. If you need to change the angle that the router travels, you don't need paper shims. Just move the radius block over a little in the direction you want to be lower. It moves along the circumference and tilts automatically.
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS!! REEALLY needed this info!! SUPER HELPFUL!!!!
Great vid!! thanks for clearing up my ‘other’ comment... :) I love the way you take the time to explain what and why you are doing things! :)
Dude, awesome video! Love the comments and great information, suggestions, quality work. And finish off with a VH shirt...badass! Thanks for this!
I was at that show. VH in San Antonio, Texas. Great show.
This was so much fun to watch. You are such a great guy and you really really know guitar. I dig the color on that guitar!
Interesting that I found that mounting the Locking nut beHIND the existing nut and using the bar works just as well as replacing the nut. As long as like you said, the string in the locking nut stays parallel, it works perfectly without disfiguring my guitar!
Thanks Will, great video once again, very helpful, Cheers
I was going to do the same thing to my Tele...I'm glad that I watched your video Thanks for a very usefull info. Greetings from Istanbul TURKIYE..
thanks for this video, waiting for my locking nut, worked on my neck too using only chisel, sandpaper pretty works too.
Yeehaaa! Yeeehaaaa!!! YEEEEEHAAAA!!! Mr. Gelvin, welcome back! I've missed you sooo much, so I can't express how I'm happy seeing you around! Will is back! Will is back! Will is back!
Very informative I’m glad I watched before doing this myself. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing the skills Will.
Thanks for the tutorial! Needed it for my project strat
I love this channel, warts and all. I am so happy youre still giving us great content. I bought your tutorial series a while back and it would be impossible to regret it...unless it funded terrorism but...nah youre cool.
These are the best luthier videos one can find on youtube. And yeah, we all talk shit from time to time. I'm not here for the talking, i'm here for the skill.
I lowered a locking nut on an inexpensive Jackson. It was good to hear you say you could always shim it if you went too far ...... I went too far. LMAO I made my shim from a thin piece of maple. Live and learn.
I'm doing that to mine but before I use a router I'm going to lightly sand it till I get it right and avoid the shim.
Hahaha, dont feel bad about the drunk part.
We all need that sometimes 👍🏻👍🏻.
I really enjoyed watching your craftsmanship & experience.
Thank you sir!
It needs huge experience to do that routing! thumbs up man!
well done! thanks for explaining everything so well.
I subscribed and rang the bell to ALL because of your humor and good info. Ive had my (very first electric) squier hardtail stratocaster taken apart for over a year now. Its torn down to each individual part and tagged so i dont forget each part. I planned on painting it, and putting a floyd rose on it because i was forced to sell my Ibanez JEM with a FR bridge at a pawnshop and was ROBBED. but i got busy with life and fixing/setting up friends and family member's instruments. I just finished resetting a neck on my brother-in-law's acoustic guitar that had been broken and the bridge had lifted... and that was A BITCH.... anyways, i think i want to put some time and money into my little Squier. I have super expensive guitars and i have Chinese guitars, but sometimes its all about the way it feels, and sound. With this specific Squier it has so many memories and scars on it. I actually had it with me when i nearly died with my brother in a very bad car wreck and all 3 of us somehow came out with just some stuff cut and broken.. Lol. I cant even express the sentimental value it holds.
Im going to be doing this to that Squier. I already have 2 hand spun hotrails and a expensive humbucker that im gunna solder in. I just need to find the right locking nut and Floyd Rose for what im trying to do... im still not sure how im going to route the hole for the tremolo. I dont own a router but i do have access to one... i just feel like im maybe too many beers deep and im biting off more than i can chew. Lol.... maybe i should just paint the fucker, solder the pickups, and just put it back together....
Very nice and helpful video. Thank you for sharing your experience.
This video was *extremely* helpful--thanks!
my wife has ms. wish you the best. thanks for the video.
Thank you so much I was making a Franken Strat and I couldn’t find a video for it thank you
Everyone should note this man makes using a router look really easy. Its tricky frightening and easy to ruin a guitar in a flash! Just practice on something first a few times
Brilliant tutorial. Gonna do this to my strat. Thnx subscribed!
Loved the comment, "It's all about the experience." Hey that's life. This may be comprehended as "corny", but you speaking about saying things drunk, and living with the consequences the next day, well, I truly loved that, and I'm not a big subscriber. I almost never like, and subscribe to any channel, but that brought it home for me as well as the really good instructions. So, I liked, and subbed.
GREAT VIDEO!
I still need to do this exact thing, give or take some wood here or there. Thanks for the pointers!
Very nice step by step!! Thanks!
Awesome! Thanks for this, I have a cheap strat I’m planning on installing an even cheaper Floyd for.
Mark Tiongco if you do use a cheap licensed Floyd and find it keeps going out tune, try wrapping some plumbers tape around the thread of the pivot screws. The original FR pivot screws have a much finer thread than the cheap ones, and I noticed that the extra play in this thread can cause the trem to go out of tune very easily. Better yet, buy the original FR trem screws and body posts to mount the cheap FR on to.
The only beneficial video about a double locking system with hand power tools
Will Gelvin is to luthiery as Bob Ross is to painting
agreed...
Thank you for this video!!!!!
Yay new videos! That strat is killer. Im a super strat guy all day. Love the older shred guitars. I lol at the live drunken stream side note. Hahahaha
This was very helpful, thanks.
Thanks, a very informative video.
It's inspired me to fashion a jig to make adjustable, all the routing angles and heights, possibly using one or more of the tuner holes for both increased accuracy and rigidity.
I reckon what would really set off the colour balance of your guitar would be the addition of some black tuners. You'd only need to buy cheap ones as they aren't really doing all that much.
Thanks man, really helpful.
I remember you talking about some health problems about a year ago... how is it going?
I've changed my alimentation, stopped with milk and most of dairy products. I also avoid carbs the most i can (and i eat lots of good fat, like fat from pig, coconut oil and olive oil). Lost weight, have more energy and i'm healthier than ever. I used to get the flu like 6 times a year and it was really strong. After the changes i spent a whole year without getting the flu, it never happend before.
Look for paleolithic, low carb and ketogenic diets. You'll find out lots and lots of stuff about our health and how better you can get. Most of autoimmune (your case) problems can be solved by changing the things you eat, because they are caused by things we shouldn't eat.
Wanted to comment this before. I aways remember of you when i watch the videos about these things and they talk about autoimmune diseases.
I'm laughing at all of my comments on these videos over the years, man I sounded like a know it all asshole on some of them even though it wasn't my intent, just get excited about anything guitar! Will always be a big fan of this channel and keep coming back to these videos they are great references and still fun to watch!
I have that same shirt and I was wearing it while watching this
Great video 👍
'This wonderful high-quality plastic nut...'
'Chisel in the hand may be quite continental,
But a razor is a luthier's best friend!
A router may be grand, but it won't be the ruler...'
CZcams, BY THE POWER OF SPACE UNICORNS, I COMMAND YOU TO SUPPORT THIS MAN!!!
Thank you very much this helped a lot
This is awesome. Thank you!!!
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This is as soothing as watching Bob Ross paint, only fixing guitars
hey thanks dude!! really helpfull stuff!!
thanks man, you´re awesome
Very interesting video! Thank you,
Nice work!
So you just made a badass Charvel. I love installing Floyds on strats they are just better term systems.
They're really not. They're different, not better. Fine tuning adjustment is nice, but you break strings at a much higher rate since the clamps at both ends kink the strings creating weak points. Vai and Satch do stuff with Floyds you can't do with a fender trem, Beck does stuff with a fender trem you can't do with a Floyd. Neither is better. I take that back, Floyds and vintage fender trems with bent steel saddles are both much better than modern fender trems with block saddles of any kind.
Nicely done.
Good job 🤟🤟🤟this Is a great upgrade,!!!
Very useful. Thank you.
thank you so much. i was just gonna hit my guitar with a hammer before i saw this
Cool video pro in my opinion thanks for sharing this post 😊
Most people are haters they like like people doing better then themselves so they try to bring you down to there level ... But awesome video you teach very well
this is a great video. Thanks.
You're welcome!
i love learning thanks
Beautiful guitar dude.
great job! thanks a lot!
Want to do this to my OLP MM1 ..Which is a Awesome guitar that Ernie Ball licenced out in the early 2000s as an Axis clone ...these affordable guitars have some great pickups and even better necks...great guitar for the money... My issue is that the but shelf after routing has less room than the fender....being that the locking nut hangs over about an 8th of an inch....it works but I want to be sure for the long haul....my question is .could I add a small piece of maple to extend the shelf to better fit the new locking nut?....by gluing the small piece of maple and contouring it with some sandpaper around a pencil. To match the headstock?..any help would be awesome!!!keep all the awesome vids coming! Love the channel
LOL, a lil overhang from the night before huh... We've all been there a time or 3... Great job on nut mount.
I put locknuts on just about all my builds. When dealing with a nut that installs in a slot (Fender style), I just file down the bit at the end with a Shinto saw rasp. Router supported by radius block - WAY OVERKILL ! Probably much harder to control too. Right sized tool for the job - and most carpentry tools are oversized for guitar building. Use a fret pulling guard to check the action at the nut - it's thin enough to fit in a nut slot. I typically mount them so the bottom of the slots are just ( 0.1 mm ) above the fret plane, and the front of the nut is vertical and flush with the end of the fingerboard. String retainers are only required if the break angle behind/above the nut is insufficient. I also don't use screws - I just glue the nut in place with CA glue.
that guitar was so much cooler of a color than I was expecting haha
thanks for this video really informative :)
question though: would it not be better to use sharp chisels instead of a router if you have more time?
hi, great video. I have a question about Gotoh's locking nuts : my guitar's original locking nut width :42 mm but Gotoh only provide 41 and 43 mm. So, does that meanI can't use the Gotoh?thank you
I like to wrap a piece of painters tape around my drill bit at the distance I want to drill into the wood. It acts as a guide To keep me from drilling all the way through like you mentioned.
He was talking about a locking nut secured from the back of the neck. In that case you would drill all the way through.
Good news, this channel is showing up in my related vids sidebar. CZcams must be promoting you again!
Bad news is it takes about 5 hours for this channel's vids to show up in my subscriptions page. I've got the bell notifications though even with the bell notifications for this channel turned on.
Thanks for the vid. I assume that there is enough room to make a truss rod adjustment? It looks close. Also curious if you rounded off the edges that the new locking nut didn't cover.
gotoh makes nuts that have a space for the truss rod
I started a project with a lot of assumptions and not knowing a lot of details. Ended up with a 10" radius locking nut. A 12" radius fretboard and a 14" radius bridge trem.
The assumption was it was all 12" Radius. Turned out it was all 14" radius. 1988 Casio PG 380 synth guitar (high end strat) with all Gotoh hardware.
Not sure that a 10" - 14" makes that much difference BUT it is all wrong in my mind. Has taken me a long time learning what the differences are in the hardware.
Found out the floyd nuts are all 10" radius now when at one time the R3 was a 12". The Gotoh is 14" radius. The Floyd bridges come as a 10" radius BUT have a removable shim to make it a 12" the Gotoh is a 14" etc......Getting there (I think?) In redoing the neck with a new fret board the head stock end is narrower now so looking to do a R2 style nut with tighter string spacing from the R3 type BUT is still a 10" radius. Already put the 12" radius on the board feel like it is too late to change back to the 14"...
i have a gibson Krammer striker that doesn't have a locking nut on it. i may try this or just put on on that goes behind the nut. i have locking tuners, but they just don't work as well as a locking nut.
I don't have milling tool so I will use simple hand file. Pray for me :)
Howd it go?
@@CrowClouds the project still waiting
@@jazu40 Oh no!
@@jazu40 any updates yet?
a used router can be purchased for the price of a set of files. get the proper tool for the job
So the bar you put on nearest the tuner does the same thing as the guides that usually have some of the high strings routed through to create the downward tension?
I might buy a guitar neck from Guitar Fetish. They have it pre routed for a 42mm nut. I want to use a Gotoh tremolo and was hoping to have a matching nut, but Gotoh makes their nuts in 41mm and 43mm.
Quick question. Is that bridge that you have what they call a “floating trem system” or something?
hello, did you do the floyd pool in that start ? does the pool make a difference? , good channel
i have an affinity strat and its nut width is 40.6 mm's but i could only find 42mm locking nuts you think it will fit?
Can you explain more in detail how you measured the depth that the nut has to sit? I don’t have that fancy ruler. Specifically around the 9:10 mark
What did you use to pain the nut? Looks perfect.
I remember that guitar, I really wanted it.
Like the flourescent colors (solid locking nut)
you the best
Thank you so much for your video. Can a Floyd Rose bridge be used with locking tuners in lieu of the Floyd Rose locking nut? Thanks Andy
Probably not.
Thanks! it helped a fuck ton, I replaced my ibanez SA standard trem system and it's amazing to get experience on locking nuts.
But I have a question, I'm making a custom guitar, the problem is that I don't know how long should my truss rod be, the guitar is bloody long, like 33 inches scale length, should I use a standard 22 inch bass truss rod?