“Reform UK WON’T Be A Force In Politics To Supplant Tories” Ex-Defence Minister On Election Defeat
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Talk’s Jeremy Kyle is joined by former Conservative defence minister Sir Gerald Howarth to discuss the General Election results.
Sir Gerald believes the party “can come back quickly” after they lost more than 250 seats.
They also touch on Sir Keir Starmer’s first NATO summit as Prime Minister.
He has refused to guarantee that he will meet his flagship commitment on defence spending within his first term in office, despite a “cast iron” promise to get there.
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The Tory party is finished
about time
For now. They said the same about Labour after Blair/Brown. People have the attention span of gnats and no interest in history or politics. Having said that, the 'Tories' have been deliberately self-destructing and don't deserve to survive. Cameron Johnson and May were Lib Dems in disguise.
@@acac7928 Forever, we don't want the "heir to Blair" party and we don't want to "!build back better" stuff the Tories, they are corrupted beyond recovery.
They probably aren't - equilibrium of two party systems usually brings back parties after these kinds of defeats.
We thought in Australia that Labor was going to split into 2 parties after a bruising set of flip flops between Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd as leader where 2 warring factions wanted each respective leader.
Very likely the Tories pick a leader with some guts and rapidly reclaim some momentum
I'd love for Reform to skyrocket, don't get me wrong
Tories will rise again with Farage as leader 😂😂😂
Reform UK are our only Chance. Voted conservative all of my life but NEVER AGAIN. So glad I voted Reform UK. They are open and honest not like the lying tories.
Same here
Same here, I voted Tory at every election since 1983, but voted Reform last time, and will do so in future. Tory is a trashed brand like Ratners, they gave us Woke and high taxes, and mass immigration. How was that "conservative"? We are ANGRY. We want a brand new party, and we've got it now.
Literally every single word out of reform is a lie.
Everything Farage said about Brexit turned out to be a lie.
Lies are the only thing that Reform has.
Putin thinks the same only chance Russia has of beating Ukraine with Farages help
We don’t need a dead beat Fascist racist Mong like Farage it’s would damage this country forever
Yep!
I voted for Reform and are backing them all the way, the Conservatives had our votes last time and they just threw them back in our face.
These people still aren’t listening, delusional
Not just evil..stupid.
I voted for reform and I will vote them again
. if you load of nazi Reform voters had your way our England football team would have no winners- Toney,Alexander-Arnold,Palmer,Sako,Trippier,Bellingham,Mainoo,Rice, Guehi,Kane,Watkins-all came from parents or grand-parents who were economic migrants and before some un-educated runt says it… THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ‘ILLEGAL’ IMMIGRANTS UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW!
I would have if we had a local candidate but now having researched their donors, I wouldn't. There's no way the bankers and billionaires who fund them have the interests of the working people at heart.
i was always a tory voter. i am now 74 years old and from now on i will be voting reform.
Hope youre there in 5 years, I'm Labour all my voting life, am 67, hope l reach 74. Good luck.
Reform and common sense go together. The Conservatives just don't get it.
Nether does labour.
@@davidellis8141neither 👍
Define 'common sense'? I double dare you.
As long as Reform UK talk sense and call out the truth they will have my vote.
And many more too
Your truth, maybe. Sadly, not actual facts.
@@dirtycitydisco unfortunately for you the truth is always the truth
👏👏 ☒
@@dean-gm1lg Nope. Facts are facts. 1 + 1 = 2, this is a fact.
This guy hasn't got a clue, thank god for reform
The Uni Party live in their own woke bubble.
We have a choice other than the Uni Party. Vote Reform
Fair play to him, this kind of election occurs in other Commonwealth nations and people get just as convinced about 1 of two "Major" parties being doomed only for the public to rapidly return to medium approval constantly for each of those Majors.
You are totally deluded Farage is nothing but a conman
@@russellwilliams1163Not a chance will I vote for the Devil party , Farage is full of BS
Reform have understood the British people, listening to their concerns................the Conservatives have been busy infighting.
Is that why 85% of votes didn't vote for them?
And chasing Luvvie votes.
The biggest danger to this country is not Russia it’s Farage
Ahh, the same people who said reform won't get seats
Many said they would get none, then quickly changed to they only got 5 seats, Reform is on the rise.
Another Tory in denial.
It's why they're gonna be history
Don’t you mean your a deluded Reform voter
@@paulchadwick9419🤡🤡🤡
@paulchadwick9419 anyone still voting for the 2 main partys are the ones deluded, I mean, seriously
I voted Reform and joined the party!
Me also !
Reform I am with you I am not far right,😂😂😂😂& neither is Reform 🇬🇧
Well said.
Reform uk patriots want nigel not davos
lol...how can you be a patriot when you hate everything about the country?
YOU WILL NEVER BE TRUSTED AGAIN ... NEVER
The tory is delusional
The penny still hasn’t dropped for Gerald
They will be a force in their own right, not just to replace the Tories. Tony Blair, charismatic, I thought he was a slimy git. Yuk
Fecking smarmy warpig vampire Blair. The Tories and Labour worship the git.
Slimy is the counterpart of charismatic depending on whether you like the views of the chatty confident person
I dont care what the conners do now i will never trust or vote for them again
Great channel sir Reform is our answer nigel is our man
The Tories have got to make a choice. Is it the voter or is it WEF? They cant please both.
I voted and joined Reform couldn’t fault them and handled to stitch ups well
You don't think that Reform is going to turn out a force ... your arrogance mmm .. Watch this space. You lot are finished.
Well said 💪🏻💪🏻👌
Everyone i know voted Reform even though we knew labour would be a world economic forum agenda nightmare.
Tories literally REFUSED to listen to us and thought they knew better than those of us who previously voted Tory.
I will now vote Reform who are NOT far right, racist, homophobic or misogynistic.
Nigel will stand up AGAINST starmer
Politicians are elected to Parliament by us the Public and all you do is let us down and leave us unprotected. It's appaling what is hapening in our country today.
Only thing you can 100% guarantee is an immediate pay rise for themselves
🇬🇧 Dear, dear me. This man truly thinks Blair has charisma! Really, really!! 🤭
You cannot do right of centre politics in the UK, not since the Blair/Brown reforms of 1997-2010. We should reverse those reforms, starting with Blair's american Supreme Court and all his single-issue committees which sit above Parliament and whose rulings squeeze the value of Parliament and our votes.
Yes absolutely.
The people told them, and they never listened at least reform UK 🇬🇧 listen, they are not far right
Reform have prioritised what most people want,secure borders end of economic migrants,end to net zero..far right ..what tosh....just common sense..thats what people want!!!
But still only got 14 per cent of vote 😂 most people my arse 🤦
And most people want an NHS and Retirement Pension, Reform would like to get rid of both of these, they are a one policy party, immigration and haven't made clear how they will reduce it.
@@anneshrubsole406 spot on 👍
@@anneshrubsole406. Let's just see what LIEbour do with our pensions. After all, Gordon Brown robbed my pension fund already.
@@anneshrubsole406 "A lie will be half way round the world before the truth has got its boots on." Some people will believe any old guff
The Conservatives have had their day and will never pick up to where they were as true Conservatives. Reform is the new party where true Brits will gather.
True and Labour is absolutely nothing like I remember growing up , in fact it needs to change it's name , I thought it was for the working man and the poor
Labour are exactly the same as I remember years ago. Tony Blair in charge
Reform will replace the Torys, Mr tory boy can say what he wants
Reform speak for Britain, and continue to get my support
If they spoke for Britian they would have got more votes!
@@anneshrubsole406 Have you forgotten all the establishments underhand tactics, already ?
It’s not far right it’s Patriotic 🏴🇬🇧 always vote Reform
Its not the Conservative and Unionist party. Its the Neo Liberal WEF party.
If the Conservatives are not missing the point then why did they get so smashed in the GE and why did 4.1 million vote for a party only formed 3 years ago?
Gerald Sorry to say but Farage will be loud in the house of commons. Look what happened yesterday. This is just a start. The tories are toast. What an absolute disgrace 😤
Ya he was whinging about Bercow??? He’s been gone years 😅😅😅😅😅 clueless
@@raycorrigan3297he was warning hoyle not to do the same !
@@antitheist2000 warning?!! Ya they’ll take him seriously . Lol
His mates blew it
Reform will smash it 2029 if they don't let the Tories bring them down with all their baggage.
Ask him to speak to Tory MP Mark Francois who spilled the beans and said what really happened behind the scenes following the Brexit vote and then Nigel stepping down for them. Oh and then about how their Prime Minister ignored a large group of MP's who were centre right.
He is not listening either
If he thinks we the people would EVER trust the Tories to be in government again, he needs to buy a hat. Because he'll have to eat it! Enjoy!
I have spoken to people today who said they voted REFORM and I would not have thought that would have been there choice. Says it all.
Again the main parties are still not listening and think they have got it right! Shame on them with having so much arrogance to the voter who demand change. You will find that common sense and change to how we run this country is a Reform policy that voters have wanted for years!
Starmer has played a blinder, BUT i will always vote Reform
He's just obeyed his masters voice, whilst they shoehorn him into position
The British military isn't just in a bad way it is dire Procurement is criminal Woke targets are reducing training standards to the levels of unsafe . Moral is at rock bottom and retention of experienced long serving senior NCO's is none existing they are leaving in droves .Its not just a matter of money the issues are very deep.and I don't see a quick fix..Even conscription wouldn't work because you have lost all the experience to teach recruits well..The British military would fail a stress test.
Woke is undermining everything and making everything weak and allowing fad and fashion of gender and diversity to take over what is normal sensible and right. We need good men in our forces and good women too not something like damp cardboard. What is wrong with people. Even those in high positions seems to have been hypnotised by all this. It isn't normal or sensible. The best person for the job is the one who does it best regardless of all woke ideology.
famous last words!, lol
Its not about your son in law
If wanting a strong military & strong borders is far right, then our government in World War 2 was far right.
Conservatives still not realised that not listening to the people and not doing what we ask gets you no support , you would think that’s common sense well it is to most of us just not cons or labour! We the people are not thick and treating us like that will show you exactly what we think hence you’re finished, Reform represents us now . Just waiting for labour to do same now ,already a great start for them 😂
And yet only one in seven that voted (approximately), voted Reform.
That`s little over half of what the Conservatives polled. If that is "no support", what does that make Reform`s share?
@@georgerubypoppy1063you need to remember that as a new idea some people can take time to get used to it, to be sure it's right and is what it says it is. And to get off the train track of Cons or labour. So come 2029 those people will God willing vote Reform.
@@saraandivanevans6881 I understand that. Thing is, everyone is writing Labour off before they even get started.
They could surprise us and also be what they say they are.
Politics has always been dynamic.
@@georgerubypoppy1063 Some of us are old enough to remember the Blair illusion
@@MartinParsons-tr6wi Me too, and Thatcher, indeed all of them back to McMillan. and most have been poor and, for the most part, failed to deliver their election promises. Some shortfalls have been catastrophic.
That goes for both Labour and Conservative.
All that was then, this is now.
I`m willing to give anyone who is elected a fair crack of the whip. I`ll slag them when they screw up and praise what they get right.
As I said, politics have always been dynamic. For better or for worse, of course.
Oh yes they will. Read the room fella an start listening to the people like Refom do.
Can't speak for everyone, only myself I wouldn't never vote for you lot again if you reserected Winston Churchill to be party leader again.
You are soooo wrong sir.
They can Blame whoever they want too ,but they put themselves and the Party before any Decsions of the People..Ignored the People what did they expect..?
Living in denial this guy 🙄
It sickens me ..Tory’s still not listening …they are so arrogant ..they deserve to loose everything
They will have my vote when we get a candidate
There needs to be a party that only believes in an independent UK. 74% of the electorate just voted for the UK to stay independent and got a parliament with 80% MPs wanting to rejoin the EU.
Wish full thinking, they will if labour continues the way they have started. The Tory’s will only do what they done in the fourteen years. 😊 go reform. I left the Tory party and joined reform.
So the COUNTRY is right wing?
Trump will be great for the US, the UK, and the planet!
God help us!
@anneshrubsole406 Who would you prefer?
A president who loves the UK and would give us a great trade deal or a president who hates the UK and will never give us a trade deal?
Sir Gerald Howarth is a nobody with very little knowledge . this is why he is gone !
The big battle is not left and right. It is up and down.
The Uniparty has adopted WEF global shareholder communism.
Reform are rejecting it.
Insurgent parties on left and right are rejecting it.
The choice is very simple. Global tyranny or local government reacting to local wants and needs.
Reform is needed.
Tories will only ever come back with Reform policies. If that happens, then reform has done its job. We should thank Tice, Habib, Farage, and Co for that.
Make them in to saints! What a load of crap. We want the public servants that we own, have bought and paid for to do their jobs and that is serve the electorate that own them, instead of feathering their own nests and committing treason by favouring our arch adversaries in europe.
Sir Kweir doesn't need the charisma of B'liar, he's a WEF stooge. Not the old Russia bogeyman?
It depends how much bullying other parties do to Reform and call them out. I stand by Reform.
What a boring old man
I would think Reform UK will want to win over support from all the other parties over the next couple of (sure to he disastrous) years.
Dependent upon who is selected to lead the conservatives will decide for whom I will vote. Any left wing "wet" such as Jenrick will definitely be a vote for Reform.
Forget the conservatives they are over why keep going back and forth knowing full well nothing changes , it’s time for a real change vote reform
Reform speak to me. Absolute common sense. This election has finally brought me to my senses re the MSM.
The will get strong candidates and be building towards 2029 , but they will still give them in parliament a run for their wages 😂😂😂😂
Conservatives showed the country they are no such thing. They're finished. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that.
I think he might be rather surprised, or shocked to be more specific!!
I am now a paid up reform member now and will continue to support them and vote for them.
Another old school Tory completely out of touch, which is why the phrase now turns everyone off politicians who even whiff of it. It now means a self satisfied, middle class, Conservative elitist, who thinks that his class know better than anyone else, where a popular policy that the people might vote for is derided as populism, and who think they are a civilising influence over the great unwashed, which was the core Brexit vote and the very reason the Tories would not leave the ECHR.
And Im not interested in the nepotism he extends towards his son in law either, he'll probably be divorced in 5 years anyway...........
i used to vote tory but when 1st johnson then truss then sunak led them ( utterly hopless ) then when sunak did NOTHING to keep the price of gas/electricity down ..( he could have divorced electricity from the price of gas ) he did not because he wanted the extra VAT money and kept offgem price high for the same reason..
IDIOT sunak electricity bills went sky high in firms WHO then put there prices up to cover costs....this in turn increased inflation and the BOE put the interest rates up...which AGAIN meant the government needed more money to pay the interest ( so frozen tax code were kept ) and hunt went after windfall taxes ..and the poor of this country. peopel wanted high wages to pay the bills. ( once the higher prices went in ) the food prices droped because the prices allready had happened ( leveled off ) so inflation droped ..what did hunt do budget wise reduced NI because it meant firms payed less NI as well. and we pay tax on wages after NI is deducted. ( keep the backers sweet ) GOOD RIDDANCE SUNAK/HUNT
He can say what he likes but people now know he's a liar, and he's just doing it for self promotion, the same as Boris did, hopefully people are getting wise to him .
My generation will always vote Labour. That stigma that Reform are racists and that Nigel Farage is a bad person or that they dont care for welfare of cotizens blah blah blah is something the media keep spinning.
I voted Reform. Im proud i voted reform. The country needs this, even i can see that with my volunteered lack of understanding in politics.
If the Tories keep turning woke left they will disappear
Since the election, TalkTV has become a therapy platform for salty Tories who lost their seats.
Oh dear. Total denial.
I was a labour voter that voted reform. I like their policies.
Apart from immigration what are their policies, give me the list.
@@anneshrubsole406 It's easy enough to find. No more DEI nonsense, no more net zero nonsense. Good enough for me
It's not three and a half out of ten people voting for labour from 60% turnout. (two out of ten from electorate)
Defense minster LOL
Pull the other one that s not 23 inches long....and black ....
.. his kid is following in his footsteps...
Dense minister LOL
far lefty loon idea of defense is ..
" Put de fence around my new free house"
A view from the Uk. You don't THINK, don't you mean you HOPE they don't become a major force in politics. (2.30mins in). And another thing, why are people now talking about the Tories with a 'Left' or 'Right' of the party. To us earthlings they are a right wing party full stop. Is this a way to attract potential members of the public that have very little conception of what parties stand for?
This man is clutching at straws Reform are going to get bigger and bigger each year Starmer will be the biggest mistake ever
It's not far right it's just right
Actually. there are many people who think Reform will become a force in British Politics Sir Gerald.
Missing the point is an understatement
Why has this guy still working
!00% correct the Tories are still living in cloud cuckoo land, i have been a Tory all my life but now i'm with Nigel and Reform and i will never ever forgive the Tories for let they have let happen to our once great country MEGA!!!
Reform will be a political force for both Labour and Tories to worry about in the future. It was over 4 million voted for them this time. After 5 years of Labour it will be millions more vote for them. People have had enough of the two party system and the anti British uni party of Lab/cons.
It is hard not to view Howarth as delusional: to start with, he needs to apply his own words to his own party and its performance.
Yet again another establishment Tory spouting he knows best.
People do not vote because it does not matter who they vote for, as it is either Cons or Lab that get in, we are sick to death of Not being represented in Parliament.
Hes deluded 😂😂
Howarth is content for the Tory Party to get slaughtered and then he wants the Reform Party to fail, even though, many millions of traditional Tory supporters voted for Reform. Howarth sums up the smugness and complacency of a completely dysfunctional political party, who feels that the wheel of fortune will eventually turn in their direction.
It started with Cameron I was a member of the Tory party for 15 years and joined ukip during Brexit because Cameron government said members had to support remain.
The Conservatives have to learn to ,' conserve', like they used to and that means putting INDIGENOUS folk in the UK first !
What a load of waffle this guy spouts. No wonder Tories lost their way. So out of touch with reality, common sense is missing, and no idea what the people of Britain are thinking and wanting.
WHAT A LOAD OF COBBLERS THIS MAN TALKS.100% REFORM ALL THE WAY.100%!!