Chrysler Copies Monte Carlo
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2023
- Just two years after the global shock of the 1973 OPEC Oil Embargo, Chrysler suffers amnesia and releases the Cordoba with a standard-issue 400 big block V8. Did it sink Chrysler? And how influential was the 1973 Chevy Monte Carlo on Cordoba styling? The answers will amaze you!
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I used to work with a guy who drove a Cordoba and we carpooled to work. He constantly tailgated and every time I got in his car I thought “This is the car I’m going to die in.”
Best wishes, Steve.
I had a 75 with the 400. Took off the lean burn system and cats. Went from a slug to a tire fryer!
The best car I've ever owned was my 76 Cordoba I bought off the showroom floor in MI. It was red with white leather interior fully loaded. Had it for nine years when it succumbed to MI rust. Still miss it to this day.
My parents bought a 76 Cordoba used in '77. They used to trade cars every 5 or 6 years, but they kept that Cordoba for almost 11 years. They ended up buying a 85 Nissan Sentra in '88 (worst car ever) - they went from extreme to the other. I have fond memories of that Chrysler, I took my girl friend on our first date in that car. Great times!!
MUCH BETTER than ANY NISSAN CRAP!
Get well soon, Steve 🍀🙏🏼
Any idea what's going on with Steve?
@@phillipsrundripbubblecompa9232I was wondering the same thing.
@@phillipsrundripbubblecompa9232no, unfortunately not
@@phillipsrundripbubblecompa9232no one will say. And if u ask. These commenters attack u
Maybe whatever Steve has, he caught from reaching into those glove compartments! But seriously, I hope you are doing better!
He has cardiovascular problems, the giveaway is the labored breathing in between words
@@marioncobaretti2280 I was wondering that also for awhile. Like why do these hundreds of times a year other than entertainment? Possibly because his dr said get more exercise, kill 2 birds with one stone and teach a lot of us new things in the process
I don’t want speculate to much but when he did UTG live he would drink a lot of energy drinks. 🤷♂️Hope he is doing well.
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@@marioncobaretti2280 Labored breathing can be as simple as high blood pressure. That is a very common thing nowdays, I hope Steve is self aware enough to go get it checked even if it as the local drug store with one of those self-check sleeve/chairs with the tv screen.
Steve we miss you feel and try to get better praying 🙏 for your recovery
Always good to see your vids in the morning Steve. Hope you're getting better. Don't worry about your loyal fans, we'll be here when you get back.
As an 18 year old, I considered buying a '76 Charger, triple black with the 400 for my first car. It ended up being too much of a project, and I ended up settling on a '96 Caprice 9C1 with LT1 power and under 100k miles. However I would love to find that Charger today and bring it back to it's former glory, even if it was a "wrong year" Charger. Thanks Steve.
get the Charger! when I was 18, all we could get were the wrong year cars!
@@Moletastic69 I'd love to find it! That was years ago but I know its still in my town.
Triple Black is a rare bird .......
Hoping we get an update on Steve sometime soon. We miss you and hope you are doing OK.
I remember when these came out, my uncle owned a used car lot and when he got one he was showing it off and drove my grandfather in it. My uncle really liked these cars. They were popular. I owned a 77 fury sport and it was a reliable tank. Great car. I later owned a 80 cordoba which I liked the styling better but during that time frame the magnum still looks awesome! I still like the Frank Sinatra edition Imperial.
Get well Steve! your in my prayers and thoughts I've learned alot from you over the years and wish you the best and hope your back soon! the information you share is awesome and the way you deliver it is entertaining no one else does it better! I'm a mopar guy and can never get enough of your shows! my dad and I used to mill around our local junk yard when I was younger and those times were great and now that my dad is no longer here along with the junk yard watching your show takes me back to those times ❤️...your the beat Steve get well soon!
Take care of yourself we'll be be here when your better,no problems watching the reposts, hope you have a good master technician for the warranty work
I love these cars! My friends father had one in gold with the gold velour interior and he used to burn the tires every time he drove it around. Remember those days? You were outside and all day long someone was showing off how much they liked to spend on tires.....
360 was standard in Canada, 318 no cost option. My mother ordered one new in Montreal. No Corinthian Leather either, and no AC, 904 trans
Always loved those cars, 318 is fine. The round headlight ones look cool, the square headlight ones later don't look as cool. These cars soldered on in the Northeast US for way longer than one would ever imagine possible. Steve M is a wizard! We want another motortrend show with him in it!!!
Fuck Motortrend, I like watching Steve on his own. I wouldn't pay a dime to Motortrend.
I had friends with each; Monte Carlo, and Cordoba. They were both very nice cars. I think the Monte Carlo stood the test of time, best. But at the time, I liked 'em both.
I owned both! The Cordoba was FAR SUPERIOR!
Praying for you Steve hoping for a speedy recovery love your videos
When I got out of the Army the first time in 1995 I bought a 78 Dodge Magnum, I LOVED that car, I let my cousin drive it when I went back in a year later for the 2 years I was going to be in Japan and a few months later some 20 something year old guy running from the cops in the middle of the night rear ended it and shoved 25 feet down the street into the the back of their neighbors Dump truck, folded that thing up like an accordian, it hit the dump truck so hard that it broke the subframe and the motor in half, of course it killed him instantly, the cops estimated he was traveling at 70+ MPH when he hit my car, his car careened into the teenager across the street's 81 Ford Fairmont and wiped it out too and came to rest in their front yard. Only 3 vehicles in the street on that entire street and he hit all 3 of the, of course the dump truck was fine except it popped 1 of the rear tires. I have a 73 Buick Regal now, which is the same thing as the Monte Carlo just has Buick badging and better interior.
My grandfather had a white with grey interior Cordoba back in the early 80's. It was in mint condition, and had a shag style grey carpet that I had never seen before in a car. It consisted of fine strands that were really long, like a long haired pet!
Hope all is well....
My first car was a 1977 Cordoba that was silver with the center console and red half landau top. I ended up selling it in 1983 for a 1980 Dodge Mirada. In 1982 someone turned in front of me on a highway going 55 MPH. I made a hard right turn to try to avoid them and the sides of our vehicle slapped together. When I went to the tow yard to look at it the next morning my dad and I believed it would drive ok once we got the sheet metal off the tops of the left side tires. With a little help from a tow truck we had them pulled out and I drove it until we had it fixed. That car was a tank! I definitely wish I would have kept that car along with the 1973 Charger I sold around that time too.
Hope you have a great recovery Steve, car guys stick together 🇺🇲🏁💪
My parents had one in triple white. I loved that car.
My cousins father got one mind cond in about 1995. Barely 60,000 mi. I was impressed with the build quality, not a squek or rattle & ran smooth. For a car that was 20 yrs old at that point, phenomenal! & that Corinthian leather from New Jersey was far superior than other american car leather in the 70s!
Wonder if the "North Jersey" leather could stand up to MB Tex.
I still feel that the torsion bar front suspension was superior to the standard coil spring system.
Feel has nothingvto do with it. It IS superior to coil suspension
@@Welcometofacsistube Mr mean I see ^^
@@Welcometofacsistubeno
It was!
Hope all is well, Steve!
I’ve heard everything from you’re on Vacation to you’re in the hospital either way I hope all is well!
CWDYMC?😂👨🏻🍳
Steve, hope all is OK with you. I haven't seen any statements as how your health is doing. Very concerned .
8th grade. We had a kid that could imitate Ricardo Montalban. Hilarious. I can still hear him saying Cordoba! Lol. The things you remember.
Get well soon, Steve!
My grandmother had a ‘75. We got in a total loss accident in it and I got to take my first and only ride in an ambulance that day. Something interesting I remember about that car was the turn signal indicators on the tops of each quarter panel. The driver side indicator also served as a poor man’s economy acceleration indicator. If you got into the throttle a little too much, it would illuminate until you got out of it into a more economical mode of acceleration.
I purchashed my first new car in the fall of 77. I really liked the styling of the Monte Carlo, but was a Ford man at the time.
So I bought a 78 LTD 2 ,which was Fords copy of the Monte.
Get well soon Steve!
07:19 Oh they mystery "Jeffery Dahmer" box was hysterical! Steve is as much of an archeologist as he is a car guy. 🤣😅😂
I never had one. But I always liked those Cordobas.
Steve. I have always enjoyed your videos... you are a fountain of information ... get well soon .. we are your automotive family
73 Monte Carlo is a very beautiful car.
I always liked the Ford competitor to that. The Elite!
Best wishes to Steve. My thoughts and prayers are with you my friend 🙏💜💜💜
Speedy recovery Steve!
As an owner of 2 79 t top 300's,
I love cordobas
My parents had a 1978 or 79 Cordova with the dual square headlits & a 360.
I love the Cordoba and Monte Carlo both great cars.👍
Cordoba...YES! Monte' NO!
I say that because I have had 3 Montes 76 77 78, but do agree that the Cordoba is better.
We're all pulling for you Steve. Hope to see you soon
Great video as always Steve! Thanks
Mr.Steve is in the hospital.
If you have ever enjoyed any of his work,he should be in your thoughts and prayers.
No B.S.
C.B.
Hey You Tube, I put this comment up here as a public service for Steve's fans.
I don't usually comment on You Tube so I don't have a user name on file .
Can you change my name on this post to something more fitting?
How about "Tom Terrific /A/FX Dodge 1968.
Thanx C.B.
One of my coworkers who was a Chevy man, used to love to point out to his Mopar aversarys that the first gen Dodge Challenger was a total copy of the '69 Camaro.
Brings back memories of Ricardo talking about rich corinthian leather! Thanks for a great video!
Best wishes, Steve
Thank you Steve
Hey Steve-O , the crew over here laughed hysterically at your subtle references to the cannibal. You are quite witty but your "off the cup" knowledge of ALL of these various junkyard relics is absolutely top-notch insight. Many Thanks Yo ! 🔜. 📺.💯K
Thanks Steve!
Great video Steve - very informative.
My Mother owned one (a '76?) with the "Rich Corinthian Leather." It persistent, random electrical faults. The car went back to the dealer again and again but they never did figure out how to fix it. The dealer told her that this was a common problem on the Cordoba for which Chrysler had suggested many cures, but nothing seemed to work.
I grew up in a 76! I friggin love these things!
An old friend had a Córdoba, was the first one I found interesting. Was black, early model with round headlamps, had aluminum slots, T tops, buckets and console with black *rich Corinthian* leather… was a cool car, way cooler than a big body Monte. And this coming from a man who generally hates anything mopar.
Dad bought a new '76 SE Dodge Charger Daytona Brougham, with the 400 Lean Burn. Biggest disappointment in his car buying life too. Traded it in on a 1980 4 cylinder Mustang Hatchback in fact.
The Charger wore out 4 sets of steer tires in 35K miles. Finally, after numerous front end shop visits, discovered the whole front frame clip had been welded together incorrectly. NO alignment could ever fix it!!!
Our neighbor had a 76 Cordoba and people my age remember the car very well because of the perfect pitchman Ricardo Montalban "Rich Corinthian Leather" 😊
Nice! A buddy of mine had a Cordba. I think he said it had 2:45 gears in it. Slow off the line, but solid and fast on a clear highway!
My 78 Magnum 318 2bbl was solid at 100 cruising down US-23 near Milan, MI...
I owned both a 77 Cordoba and a 79 Cordoba, were called mid size luxury by Chrysler, classy and comfortable and great on long drives. The beautiful coach lights on the outside, looked beautiful at night, ladies loved riding in it.❤
Those are really nice vehicles luxury at its best. Especially when Ricardo from fantasy island promoted it. 👍
@@Daniel-fd3wp Really miss those cars, everything today looks alike, another reason why the big 3 have fallen.
Get well man!🙏🏻
Funny story,I was top end in my SS “87” on the NY thruway and a beat up old Cordoba with a tractor tire hanging out of the truck flew right by me.
Thanks again Steve.
I found the drivability on my 360 lean burn terrible. The car ran great once I put it back to '74 set up. I've never talked to anybody that liked lean burn cars. Some guys tried removing part of the system and that made the problem worse. I took all the pieces needed from a wrecked '74 and was happy with the results. Anyone out there have a good experience with lean burn?
No. It was a total junk and most people did away with it and were better off. Many times the components of the system were finnicky and often unreliable.
Lean burns were terrible...at least as a used car...I was a used car dealer and I stayed away from them after one horrible experience.
My grandfather had an 83 Cordoba, it was a 318 with lean burn, never gave any trouble at all and got excellent fuel mileage. He drove it for many years and it eventually went to my aunt and then my cousin. I think eventually rust got to it, but it drove for many, many years.
Thanks for that. I've only talked to guys with this system up to about '80. I suspect lean burn had a lot to do with chrysler's financial problems then. It's good to hear the system worked well for at least some. @@55hemidodge
I owned six "lean burn" MoPars! The "400" was the ONLY DISAPPOINTMENT!
We hope Steve is doing well.. thanks.
I never even heard of this car thanks for the information
Get well soon Steve
Those cars had those turn signals that where mounted on tops of front fenders
MoPar models had these from '65 on! These WERE CLASS!
Great videos!
Back in the day when I prepped the new cars at the Chrysler dealership the Cordoba was my favorite car to get ready for customer pick up. That's until I went to the Chevrolet dealership and prepped the new Corvettes.
Ricardo Montalban and the Corinthian Leather commercials is what I remember 😂😊
Built in Windsor. Just a sweet personal luxury vehicle. So sad these are 'lean and burned' nowadays
GM's success with the Monte etc. was due to their malaise era chassis being "new" before everyone else. They ditched it almost as fast for 78 and beat the rest of the market again with mid and "full size" "downsized" cars.
Chrysler was a year or two behind always during that time. however, they also let police buy a 440 until 1978, and anyone could buy a 400 big block until 77.
Lean burn WORKED.
problem is, Chrysler was basically saved by the Cordoba but still was struggling, and the training needed for the dealer techs to repair a lean burn engine was simply absent. I also credit lean burn with gear heads complete anti-computer mindset that ran well into the 1990's. It was far easier to replace the whole system then find someone that knew how to tune or troubleshoot the system.
Despite what people thought of Malaise era cars, the Chrysler cars were built pretty well, IF, you didn;t pull the short straw with QC, but that was in all the big three cars. The designs were good. Chrysler did earn a lot of gearhead respect by holding on as tight as they could to classic muscle values, between the big block cars, Little Red Trucks, and the police cars they maintained a strong following that stayed true even through the 4cyl. years.
My father had a blue cordoba in the early 90s. Round headlights, blue, rusty and gigantic. 360 v8. Leaf springs popped through trunk like every dodge/mopar he owned. It was embarrassing then driving a $100 car 15+ year old car covered in rust and dents.
Get well Steve
Back in those days in Westchester NY, everyone wanted a "Monte!"
@ Steve I would argue that the "personal luxury market" ultimately BEGAN with the Oldsmobile Toronado (1966) and the Buick Rivera (1963) in the 1960s!!! Those were truly "personal luxury cars" as they were both only offered as two doors instead of a Cadillac Sedan De Ville or Fleetwood which were four door cars at the same time frame!!
According to Uncle Tony that car probably ran a lot better after the lean burn stuff was removed
and Uncle Tony is right.... When I first got out of the Army in 95 I bought a 78 Dodge Magnum and when I took it to get inspected the inspector, who was my Uncles lifelong best friend, told me top roll it out of the shop and then roll it back in so the inspection was "Official" and he took off the Lean Burn Stuff for me, that thing ran like a stripped ape after that.
My Uncle had a Cordoba, don't remember what year it was. But he drove to Colorado from California to come visit one year. as he drove across Death Valley , the tail light lens on both sides, that were glued in. Were sucked off the back of the car because the heat melted the glue, and the 80mph he was doing set up a low pressure system behind the lights. He got pulled over twice. Once by state patrol in Utah, and once in Colorado. He had no idea his tail light lens were gone. Still makes me think of him every time I see or hear of Cordoba. LOL
That's a great story, I remember in the late 90's my best friend had a 79 Datsun RX7 and the Fiberglass spoiler on the back blew off on the interstate and hit the windshield of a Highway Patrol car that was right behind him, Scared the living shit out of the patrolman but he couldn't do anything but laugh about it. My best friends dad was the Chief of Police of our hometown and they both got a good laugh about, like HTF does that even happen?
I always thought the Cordoba looked more like the Pontiac Grand Prix than the Monte Carlo. Especially considering Chrysler was a premium brand and the Pontiac Grand Prix was the most expensive GM mid sized car of that era until they were cheapened up in 1976.
I've always liked both cars. I have had the privilege to drive each, and the clear winner was me.
Where are you sir day off lol looking forward to seeing your next video
An update on Steve would be great!
Get well Steve.
I can remember being behind one and the tail light would be half full water, and a lot of them with the tail light lens missing all together.
In 81, I started driving in a handed down 75 Elite which was competing in this field.
I liked those Ford Elite cars.
A guy that worked with my dad would often ride to work with Dad. And he would leave his Elite parked at our place.
I walked past that car too many times to count.
My neighbor had one that we used as a parts runner in the 1980s. What a heap of crap it was.
@@googleusergp hahaha
@@willhorting5317 It handled like a wet walrus, it sucked gas and it was slow (It was a 351 V8). It also was just less refined than a GM of that era. Not that GM was assembling the best things either, but Fords of that era were really sloppy junk.
@@googleusergp I don't doubt you.
In the mid-'70s I was entering my teens, and not yet legally able to drive (although I had been driving around the family farm since I was about 8).
I was a diehard Chevy fan at the time.
But still liked the looks of the Elite and the Cordoba. As well as the Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Regal, and Cutlass of the era
Of those, the only one that I ever had the opportunity to drive, was the Monte Carlo. Our little rural town school leased one for a Driver's Ed car the year that I took the course.
I owned a 77' Newport with the Lean burn 400 system. My buddy had a 76' Cordoba with a 360 2bbl in it and it was no comparison. The smaller Cordoba could just get gone quicker and handled way better than my Newport. Open road with a nice straight stretch, and That Newport would absolutely fly but, it didn't like curves. All that body roll going that fast would have your hind-end puckering for extra grip lol.
My best friend when I was stationed at Fort Campbell had a 78 Newport, every Friday and Saturday Night a bunch of us would load into his car and go to Nashville or drive the 4 and half hours to my parents for the weekend, Mothers day of 94 6 of us loaded up in the car at midnight on Saturday an Surprised my mom, 3 of the guys that went with us we didn't even know, we were drinking at the bar right outside of post and they just happened to be sitting at our table, one ended up being a Captain that worked in Division Headquarters and the other 2 were brand new kids right out Basic Training. That was the good old days about rank, position or really even age, you were one of us.
I preferred the Monte Carlo by far. Once again, and example of the copy not being as good as the original. I gather from other comments, you might not be feeling well. If true, I hope you have a speedy recovery. Your videos are enjoyed by many of us.
Mr. B. Here ! Good morning ☕️☕️ ! Most of the vehicles from 1973 to 1977 were and still have a great 👍 ride , I have Cutlass S sport coupe , & GMC Sprint both are great for long trips . Most of the vehicle were 200 + inches long , my 1970 442 is 196 inches long give or take , the was much improved for 1973 to 1977 ; the price we all paid for was smog motors . I drove a Cordoba not a bad ride ! 👍☕️ Have a good day !
The 73-77 "Smog era" cars are becoming the "hot" new custom/restomod build because they areeverywhere and cheap.
@@TheREALOC1972 Mr. B. Here ! True ! My 76 Olds 442 the cancer ( RUST ) I have had since new , so went out and got a Cutlass S a NV car my best parts from my 442 are being transferred, it hurt to do that but I get to keep most of my car !
The Cordoba was FAR SUPERIOR to the Monte! I owned both!
@@johnmaki3046 That depends on your version of FAR Superior, The Monte had more power, had a much better suspension, the only the Cordoba had better was the interior.
My brother had one same color with t tops center counsel and leather buckets seats
I own a 1976 dodge charger just like the one in that ad. Nice cruising car. Hope Steve is doing ok.
just love what you do
I actually think the Cordoba was substantially better looking than the Monte. But only with ROUND lights. The square light Cordobas were really really ugly. My mom's bowling partner had one in silver with burgundy Corinthian leather and a 360. I remember skidding a few hundred feet in that car when my mom's friend saw a leaf blow into the road she thought was a squirrel! Flat spotted the hell out of the tires but hey the leaf lived!!!
I had a Charger with the moon roof and those hubcaps.....just shredded my fingers polishing them.....👐
So sad seeing this, Ricardo would be rolling over if he seen this😢
Be well, Cordoba, with fine Corinthian “leather.”
Think it was rich not fine
Soft Corinthian leather
"rich" was in the 1980 ad for the "smaller Cordoba"@@countrymorgan2942
Actually everybody's right! Over the years, Ricardo uttered soft, rich, fine, Corinthian leather depending on the year of the ad. Somewhere on 'curbsideclassic' they compiled all the ads together with CZcams links. But since there are around a half dozen articles on the Cordoba, I don't know which one it was. 🤔
Supplied by the Radel Leather Manufacturing Company of Newark, NJ. LOL. The term was nothing more than marketing.
I'm a Chevy guy, but I never was a huge fan of the second gen Monte Carlo. The Cordoba was a stylish car. I actually like it better than the 2nd gen Monte. I have no desire to own either one, but I'm just sayin'
I can remember how heavy the doors were
i'll say it again 76 was a great year
Rich Corinthian Leather was the most important part of the car.
Reminds me more of a Grand Prix.
I miss velour interiors. Family vacations in the 1974 Dart with its cold AC were luxurious in my single digit years.
My sister's 1974 Gold Duster with the Slant Six "Leaning Tower of Power" and factory AC was a good combination. It got good fuel economy and the AC would freeze you out even on the hottest days. The venting system was pretty crude and always looked like an after thought. LOL. We had it two years from 1983 to 1985 and then it was sold for a 1979 Olds Cutlass that I wound up with for three years from 1990-1993. I then sold it. The car cost us nothing in the time we owned it. The Cutlass also had ice cold AC.
Yep! Dad was all about the slant 6. He said he got 30mpg in his 68 Coronet on the Natchez trace (35-45mph 😆)
@@joshuamuchmore5049Good engine indeed. Unfortunately saddled with marginal ignition and crappy carburetion. But overall an excellent engine. Chryslers and damp weather never went together.
These were cool.