Just how fast was Bradley Wiggins riding?
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2022
- I thought I knew what it was like to pedal quite quick for quite a while....until I tried doing Sir Bradley Wiggins One Hour Record wattage 😳
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Me V Sir Bradley V GCN at 440W … sick bucket at the ready 🤢 😂
As an engineer, W/kg should have been taken into account but its not that simple. I think it would be closer to 500W because even on the flat your extra weight means more rolling resistance. So, I suggest you rent out the velodrome in London and attempt this yourself and hang at 54.5 km/h. Would make for a good vid.
P.S. try it in the TT position.
@@mihpop9733 Renting the velodrome? Should he also perform a little dance after? ;)
Joking aside: The rolling resistance will make almost no difference. What will make a difference is that Mark is simply a lot bigger and therefore has to displace a lot more air which is the dominant form of drag at any velocity above 15 kph IIRC. And guessing how much more aero-drag Mark would have to overcome is near impossible. A very rough way to do it would be to assume similar body densities (We're all mostly water anyway, no?) and then raising the weight ratio (Mark/Wiggins) to 2/3 approximating the increase in surface area. And there are many problems with this approach..
Any respectable doctor would have given you a TUE for that donut😉
@@derekhill1820 It's the love handles exemption that my wife WON'T give me that matters 😂
Is the Hyrox train like a pro on hold Mark? Was looking forward to following that one - also was laughing hard at the garmin stamina chart 😂 some effort you put in there 😄👍
When you realised how hard 440w was, absolutely cracked me up 😂 The commentary while doing it was absolutely mega "o thats spicy" 😂
That’s my kids fault. They are pathetic when it comes to eating hot food and whenever they are served something remotely spicy that’s what they say. It’s become something of a house term for anything that catches you off guard and is a bit outside your comfort zone. 😁
@@MarkLewisfitness Mark, this was awsome! Laughing out loud. Great content :)
Realize how hard 440w is when Froome is about 15KG lighter 😮
I’m 6’6” 240. My ftp is currently 364. I only offer that as credibility to say this: your cadence has to come up to survive efforts like that. I was a slow churner too and my legs would burn out so fast. Once I could comfortably hold over 85 and now toward 100rpm, my cycling efforts at high wattage got a lot easier. The work on cadence will pay off.
2nd that ! used to grind out at like 70 and get shouted at. Spent some time working up to 100+ and big difference.
Yep, 90+ when I am pushing it on a bike. 100+ when I am really going for it.
Power is Energy per Second and Energy is Force x Distance, so if you can pedal quicker then the force you require your legs to put out is reduced, shifting the stress to your cardio system (no free lunch, right?). Related question - how do you change to a lower gear on these zwift bikes?
@@sd3457 the same way you would on a road bike. On the levers, you can even program what group set you have, and what gears. So you can program 11 speed di2 and shimano.
It might be worth considering using a shorter crank on the Wahoo Bike (using the preset holes) to reduce foot speed and allow for a higher cadence. Make a similar adjustment with the saddle, too.
“I’m in my garage and I warmed up with a bobble hat…. Fuck off” 😂😂😂 That’s a sub earned right there hahaha
You are the master of understatement- “harder than it looks”. My “sprint” isn’t that far north of 440w! Always good to understand how superhuman pro athletes really are so thanks for subjecting yourself to the agony for us all Mark. Consistently great content so thanks for continuing to post these extraordinary feats.
Man it must be so much fun to be able to push 3-400 watts without big effort. Must be a freeing feeling.
Awesome adventure! Loved it as always.
I watch GCN fairly often as I'm learning to cycle. Their "enthusiast" (Ollie) is someone that I enjoy watching for much of the same reasons I enjoy watching your content. He's one of their only presenters that isn't a former pro cyclist, but he seems to take on hard challenges with regularity, and takes getting beaten by his coworkers with good humor.
He also dropped contador this year and has a sick ftp for his very low weight. Enthusiast is putting it mildly... Fun fact he also did an hour attempt.
@@martinjarc1994 I'd love to see Mark make an hour attempt, but it might be too disruptive to his Hyrox training at the moment. It might be good for triathlon training though
Also, PS - Ollie's post-bonk completion of that ride where he dropped Contador is one of the most inspiring things I've seen on youtube. I have a deep well of respect for anyone that is willing to go outside their comfort zone, and dig deep to finish the task even when things go sideways.
@@DC-lu5qs I guess i was misunderstood. I was only pointing out that Ollie the enthusiast also did an hour attempt. Not suggesting Mark should do it. It goes against his mantra of enjoying the sport not searching for super small details to improve his 1h performance. Better for him to focus on lying down and standing up hehe I guess he is too good at spartan to really train those burpies 😂
@@martinjarc1994 nah the hour thing was my thought from whole cloth. I'm not suggesting he try to set the record, just see what he could do in an hour - as an alternate form of challenge to ones like these. I just thought it would be interesting, and maybe fun for Mark, and maybe fit reasonably well into his overall training once he's back to training for Ironman. Obviously only he can tell us for sure :)
I definitely think setting off at a lower cadence made it as painful for the legs as it was. For a ramp test or time trial I will always set out at 100+ and look to hold that throughout, dropping only right at the end
Good point-I normally do cycle between 85 and 95 but that watts increase caught me by surprise and I never recovered
@@MarkLewisfitness The trick is to be at the cadence you want the interval to be before it starts. So the 5 seconds before, ensure you are at cadence or slightly higher.
ABSOLUTELY LOVING your posts. Please keep them coming.
Love the videos Mark, thanks for the motivation!
Wiggins weighed 69Kg and held a pretty aggressive position on the pursuit bars, by all accounts it's much harder to attain the same power numbers in that position than road drop bars
Define 'harder', trying to attain 440 watts in a more uncomfortable position is easier overal to achieve than in a standard position either on the drops or on the hoods which if you get it right is actually more aero than in the drops (according to some vigorous testing). You train your body to be as small as possible and indeed your TT position isn't something you can replicate on a road bike so your aero is significantly more, thus requires more watts for same speed or slower speed for same watts.
By definition that makes it harder physically on a std road bike.
@@ynotnilknarf39 that’s not what his comment was getting at… having your body lower in a more aero position makes it harder to pedal efficiently given the angle at your hips.
Not too sure, the UCI banned Tri bars in the track team sprint. Those boys were banging out well over 1KW in the aero bar position because it was faster and could put more power down.
Moving an object of 69kg with 440 watts is completely different than moving a 100kg object with the same amount of watts. I normally weigh 78-80 kg, when I weigh 85 i'm faster on the stationary bike. But definitely not on the road.
Wiggins weighed 69kg in his Tour winning form where it was all about not losing to the climbers in the mountains. He was a a lot heavier by the time he did the hour record in 2015 - well on his way to the 83kg he was by the time he won gold in the Team Pursuit in 2016.
Mark, I love your posts. It’s hugely encouraging to see a mid 40’s ordinary guy doing extraordinary things.I’m 57 & I’ve signed up for the 2025 Ratrace LeJog when I’m 60. It’s channels like yours (ok, only yours) that gives me the confidence to try👍 What other legacy will we leave?
Rat race events are awesome-you will have an amazing time!
As a rower I’d love to see you try and maintain the 2k pace for however long you can - or maybe set your own 2k time? I think WR is 5:35 ish but definitely a good challenge! Or a 5K time for more endurance based! Also works toward the HYROX!
My most recent on a concept 2, resistance set at 10 was 6.5km in 29 minutes, it was my 3rd time doing it. Have been addicted to the wattbike since and not been back to rower yet haha
@@blaneysiktube resistance set at 10 is crazy. Drop it to 5 and set your drag factor to about 130
@@jimjamthebananaman1 true that, I used to stick the rower up to 10 didn't realise that 17 stone Olympic rowers have it on 5 or 6.
@@blaneysiktube be careful , you can really hurt your back on this resistance.. Try to set 5 and be more dynamic, work with legs as a real rower
I've never been an "elite" level cyclist, but the closest I've come to your effort was on a Strava segment - I did 473W for 4:30 and I literally thought I was going to die at the end of it (got the KOM at least!). It was a segment I had been working on for a couple months. What was almost as hard was coming back home! The segment was about 20 miles from my house and that 20 mile ride back was brutal, my legs were basically Jello, hah.
Great effort Mark! Always cracking content. Really is amazing that he did that for an hour...
Fairly new subscriber here and steadily working my way through your back catalogue of videos, all of which are funny and informative. Really enjoyed both this video and the previous one as they really do highlight just how super human these elite athletes are. Hopefully you find another challenge that can be attempted, perhaps something rowing related? Anyway keep the content coming and thanks for the hard work you put into it, it genuinely is inspiring.
Great video well done and love the humour. Feel free not to speak during the efforts!! Time to get on the concept 2 and hold the 2k world record split for as long as you can. The record is 5:35.8 so you need to hold a split of 1:24 (technical 1:23.95). It was set by an Australian rower named Josh Dunkley-Smith. He weighed about 92kgs at the time and weight is a huge factor on the rowing machine so if you are lighter let me know and I can provide some data on power to weight so you can come up with a comparable split
Mark has already done a 1'24'' 500m row vs. his son, so he should be able to maintain WR pace for... around 500m 😉
@@XavierMontet I reckon I could drag that out for 503 m now 😂
@@t.e.r.sven2.0vs.daskaltest59 weight is important because more weight = more muscle 😁 and if you're tall you have more amplitude.
@69kg you're in the lightweight category (
@@MarkLewisfitness loving the channel. I've just recently gotten into erging on the C2..i saw your 500m time with your son. Man i wish i had either of your power. i can't get below 1.34 (we're the same age). On many sites i see ..add 5 secs to your split for double the distance....well..you mentioned what challenges should you try......2km erg around 6'30? That would make you extremely above average!
@@ivorwrench5409 2km challenge is happening! VERY soon!
Fantastic video Mark, only found your channel 2 weeks ago and the content is excellent just listened to the podcast you did and you came across brilliantly. Keep the videos coming mate.
Btw I love the 80s/90s movie references/cut scenes.
I saw an interview with a velodrome coach at the Olympics once and when asked about power to weight ratio he stated it's more about power to wind resistance. So a large upper body is a disadvantage.
Yep that why a guy like Campanaerts could get the record with much lower wattage. Small guy so he cuts through the air like a bullet. Wiggins is 6ft+.
Terrific stuff. It's great to see you put yourself out there with good humor.
Great video Mark - thanks for putting yourself through these challenges to show us what fantastic athletes these guys really are. Nice Lake shoes btw
Great video again. A couple of comments on your GCN critique: Oli Bridgwood (their 'enthusiast') has actually had a proper go at the hour record. On a track. He is also fairly light. Their 'beginner' has gone on to massively improve his cycling and his story, told in a Mallorca long ride video, is actually very very inspiring. Those two GCN videos are worth a watch. Much of the rest of their content I'd not bother with.
Great effort, really inspiring to see you push yourself to your limits without giving up 👍
Great channel. Celebrating athletic achievements in a different angle. Love the humor. Keep up the good work
Fun video! For estimating how long efforts above threshold can be held, you can use critical power which represents the anaerobic contribution above your threshold. The crude estimate is to take a known time zone e.g your 2 min @ 505w, (which from your video looked more like 545 as zero time was included ) and calculate anaerobic capacity which is
AC (W’ J) = (watts-CP)*time(s)
CP ~ threshold, so 320w for yourself.
(545-320)*120 = 27,000 J
Then with your anaerobic work capacity figure, you can reverse the calculation. So divide it by 440-320 to figure out how long you could hold 440w.
27000/(440w-320w) = 225s (3:45) which isn’t far off. Your likely anaerobic capacity is 28kJ or your FTP is higher.
These calculations model the anaerobic energy system contribution on too of your aerobic system, given it’s not linear as anaerobic power production only ramps up at the high end.
Mark, this was by far the best video I have watched in a long time! Your comments during the test were fantastic… I am still laughing while I write this! Fantastic job!
Mark Lewis You legend, Keep riding, Keep running, Keep roasting and keep the science coming
Great motivation, Great video thanks
Brilliant, loved it! Well done and well above average 👏
love your videos mark. keep em coming :)
do enjoy the dry turn of phrase! You have inspired me to get back on my bike - but on Zwift. Done a lot of road cycling in the US, UK and now NZ but now over 50, 95kg and need to get back to sub 90kg for the ski season. Winter (in NZ) approaching and looking forward to getting on the virtual road. Thanks for the videos, the info and the entertainment.
Unreal Mark, fair play. I wouldn't get close to a minute at the moment, but getting better overall so it's all good 🚲👍
I’m on holiday watching this on a sun lounger cracking up, loved it!! keep it it up Mark
This is one of the funniest things I’ve watched. Just love your commentary Mark 👍 awesome
You can't say "if I did 505W for 2min and 320W for 60min, 440W for 30min in the middle". By lowering time you increase the watts exponentially.
Great content as always 👍💪
Just found this video accidently when watching the GCN videos.
Ollie (the enthusiast) was a beast back then. It is MUCH MUCH easier to generate 440w with higher weight (I assume Mark Lewis weighs around 100kg) than Ollie (around 70kg). That's why the pro, Conor Dunne, can maintain 440w for such a long time (40+ minutes) as he weighs around 100kg being so tall.
Fantastic Video, I love the style of your videos very enjoyable
As I was (one of at least) the people to mention watts/kg I appreciate the shout out! 😄 You are 100% right about it on the flat, so it wasnt really a relevent point. Its compared all the time for cycling uphill as its obviously a big component. Class effort and just shows how insane Brad's effort was. I think the comment you made about his aero position just intensifies the craziest of the effort.
“Warmed up with a bobble hat...” classic 🤣 I need an update on the 🍩 donut.
Kid ate it 🙄
@@MarkLewisfitness kids eh 😜
Loving the cycling content on this channel. The false braggadocio and cockiness to begin with, and the honest and humble reactions in the moment. Deadpan humour to boot.
I'm also a pretty big bloke, and while your affliction is donuts, mine is beer. 6'5 and lugging around a 116 kilo carcass! This channel has inspired me though and I've set myself a goal to follow in your footsteps and complete Chase the sun 2024 - giving me a year pretty much to get fit enough to do it.
Mark, great effort and video!! It’s always great and inspiring see someone die right after an effort it reminds me on ski or swimming comp.
Question: why that insane slow cadence??
Discovered your videos this week. Love the combination of elements you bring to a crowded arena - and the fact you take the trouble to write a pithy, witty script (I assume - your eyes keep moving left to right at a regular reading speed, but that could be nystagmus) and don't simply "freestyle" repetitively. What I enjoy as much as your challenges are the ways you adapt to the environment and to yourself as you're experiencing each event. Last summer I decided to see if I could ride 200miles in one day on the road having never ridden more than 100miles in one day on the road, and failed to factor in that it would leave me riding country lanes towards the end for 3 hours, in darkness, with a very small front light that died with ten miles to go. I managed 200 miles (no choice, as the route took me back to my house) and resolved to buy a bigger light (adapted to my stupidity so as to be less stupid next time if I'm stupid enough to do it again). As you said in a previous vid, overcoming obstacles unseen at the start are as satisfying as the finish itself. Thanks for the infotainment. Much appreciated.
The first time I rode more than 40 miles, I rode 140 (West Houston to Galveston Beach & back - yes, I know it’s illegal on a bike - this was the 90s!).
I did it about 10 times; the last time I had such a tailwind on the way out, I did it in 2:45…but then I had to come back…over 6 hours fighting a constant 20-25 mph headwind (it had worsened a bit).
Since I lived in Houston, I had put a 13-19 corncob on my Trek 1200, and never made it out of first gear (42/19) the whole way, often struggling to maintain 60 RPM!
Did I learn anything? Probably, but I’m not sure what.
The incredible thing about top pro cyclists, like Wiggins, is their power to weight. Wiggins was around 72kg in the Tour de France so that's over 6W/Kg.
Power is one thing but getting that power up Ventoux quicky is another.
They aren't human.
Made me laugh out loud 4 times within the first 2 minutes. Thank you. Also kudos for commiting
Things that make the hour record harder: it's on a track bike (fixed gear), so you have to know what cadence you're going to ride and you can't deviate much at all. You were in high 70s whereas you'd need to be up over 100 on the track.
You just have to keep in mind that Wiggins didn’t push 440 watts from start to finish, but averaged 440, by pacing his effort. Pacing is key
U Crack me up❗️Great job👍🏻
What a laugh.😃 Fair Play. You made my Sunday.
Great video and highly entertaining!!
Keep spinning after the effort mate! Thanks for the video :)
On a setup like this with no wind resistance, i would think weight of rider means quite a lot. If we made a twin of you and shrunk him 20% it would be impossible for him to keep the same power output.
that was simply hilarious mate! awesome content!!!!!
Brilliant video👍
Never lose that sense of humor mate. Like Greg Lemond said, cycling doesn't get any easier you just go faster.
Recently found this channel and I'm loving it. To better understand the greatness of Wiggins or Ganna, you need to know that while in an aero position, your power heavily decreases (but the air resistance decreases more, so you still go faster). This means that wiggins would have been able to produce much higher watts if he stayed in an upright position like you did (but would have gone less far because of drag).
Also to "defend" Capenaerts' hour record, although cycling at altitude it provides much less air resistance so you'll go faster with the same power, the heavy decrease in oxygen makes it way harder to produce that power. This means that his 330W is actually comparable to wiggins' 40. And your assumption on weight not being correlated with speed is correct, if there is no climbing weight won't make you faster or slower.
On balance though the high altitude increase speed more than impacts oxygen levels for the negative, obviously or it wouldn’t be used.
Another great video
Top video Mark.
Great effort and excellent choice of soundtrack 🥊
Great videos, love the sense of humour
Bloody impressive!
LOL love your dogs. Great vid.
Mark I love the challenges you put on yourself and for sure the humor buddy. Great job and shows! Keep suffering and peace be with you
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Hahahaha! "Bradley Wiggins is good on a bicycle"
Class 😂 love your stuff man.
I was there at the velodrome to watch his hour record. It was completely gripping from start to finish. The only bad part was the conditions. Sir Wiggo was incredibly unlucky with the weather that day. The air pressure was insanely high. In an effort to counteract the high pressure the heat was turned up in the velodrome and it was like a furnace in there. It's hard to say excactly how many metres Wiggo was denied due to the awful conditions but I've read anywhere from 500 to 900m.
I will take a stab in the dark here and say that challenge really hurt. Great video Mark and if its ok by you i wont try that for myself.
Great effort!
Epic effort Mark. You vids are always great viewing. How were you able to hold exactly 440w all the time though? Normally on Zwift the wattage fluctuates 5-10watts all the time.
EXCELLENT!
Great video and interesting challenge. You're right about the 'Watts/kg-thing'. That really starts to matter when you have a considerable vertical component (so in climbs). Otherwise aero-drag is the major resistance. And I guess that maybe with a higher cadence you even get further. Than you shift more to your aerobic system than pure muscle power in your legs.
Disagree. Being a larger person inarguably offers a huge physiological advantage in terms of raw power output. I think it's clear Mark is rejecting this argument with his tongue firmly in his cheek.
Good job man!
Love the commentary 🤣
Mark..(top name)....your video's are cracking,really enjoy watching them...keep up the efforts..👍💪💪
When the intro is you on all four, grunting, will trying to get up. We know it's going to be a great video. Cheers.
Loved the sport science content comment at the end. Made me chuckle 👍
Well done mate 👍
Its something you have to feel to really know how impressive these insane wattages are, it's not human.
Brilliant 🤣 does make you want to try these challenges!
Great fun Mark. You're right watts per kilo are less of an issue on the flat, i'm a bigger guy too, racing with my 65kg friends when I'm 86kg. You might want to give Sufferfest's 4dp test a go to see you're 1m, 5m, 20m and sprint power, also a sickening event to take part in.
W/kg is certainly less of an issue on the flat, but not so much for a challenge like this where the power target (440W) is a muscular rather than aerobic or anaerobic test for the vast majority of non-elite athletes.
For this sort of challenge, greater muscle mass and strength is undoubtedly an advantage relative to someone of similar conventional cardiovascular fitness but lower strength/muscle mass. I suppose I actually serve as a decent example of this, as I have running PR's that are slightly better than Mark's (18:30 5k, 39:45 10k, 1:28:3x HM) and equivalent to maybe slightly inferior cycling fitness (assuming Mark's FTP is somewhere in the region of the 3.2W/kg he said he does Alpe de Zwift at) as I doubt I could hold 440W for longer than 90s before my legs give out because I weigh ~60% what Mark does and simply turning the pedals over at 440W causes much more muscular fatigue for me relative to Mark.
Basically, this is a test of muscular endurance and strength with a high absolute load. If the load is absolute and strength and muscular endurance are the primary determinants of performance, the person with greater strength and muscle mass is going to perform better most of the time.
A technically more "fair" comparison would still be to scale a challenge like this to W/kg, but as Mark points out in the video it doesn't really work for someone like him as he's carrying a lot more muscle mass than the average person, and certainly a lot more than the average cyclist. Wiggins' 6-6.2W/kg is based on a super lean weight with no upper body muscle mass to speak of, whereas Mark is easily carrying 10+ kg of "excess" upper body muscle mass that skews his W/kg against him.
There's really no perfect way to make something like this comparable, and if anything this demonstrates how insane 6-6.2W/kg for a full hour on a track bike is as a guy of above average fitness in an upright riding position who weighs ~30kg more physically can't turn over the pedals after 4 minutes. The fitness required to make that a threshold effort that can be held in an extreme TT position remains incomprehensible.
I just did my bike interval training for the day…..8 zone 7 or max power for 30 seconds with 3 minute recovery’s between efforts. My 30 second wattage was approximately 650 watts per thirty seconds. I thought I’d throw up. But no pain no gain
Why can't I stop laughing when you get on the floor totally finished😂😂😂
I commented a few months back that a 29 March GCN video pointed me toward the GCN pro being Si Richardson. I just watched a more recent GCN episode where they showed that the pro holding 440W for 45-ish minutes was actually 6'8" Conor Dunne in his first "appearance" on GCN. Either that, or GCN is engaging in a subterfuge campaign to keep the pro's identity an actual secret. [Conor is reportedly 88 kg, so 5 w/kg for 45 minutes - still wow]
Bravo!
Good effort!
Brilliant 💪💪
Another excellent video - Keep them coming Mark! - New Challenge? 5K Park Run Barefoot (not with your 5fingers) like Zola Budd from the 80's?
Is it just me or is it impossible to say her name without doing it in a South African accent 😂. Maybe one for when the rain has stopped. In fact, I’m actually loving that idea. As somebody who has gone all about barefoot style running so much it does sound pretty cool. And will be a nice answer to everyone that says heavy people need lots of cushioning.
@@MarkLewisfitness That's awesome if you take it on - and yes - it is impossible - Just like "Drago" can only be pronounced as Dolf says it in R4...
Your a machine! Being able to perform way above proficient at these disciplines as a newbie. Machine!!
It is amazing to see how good elite athletes are - they are totally incredible.
“Echo play my rocky Playlist” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are a cool Dude! Greetings from Austria!
"OK I'm going to bring my cadence up a bit and see if spinning faster...NOPE that just hurts more"- 🤣🤣
Wow!
Enthusiast guy is Ollie Bridgewood, he's actually very strong.
Gcns enthusiastic amateur has been training. Would love to see a video of you racing him up a long climb outdoors. Love your content. Especially the hurty bits😂
Great video
Nice Dude!
Wow, I’m in awe. My indoor cycling bike from Kaiser shows about an 1h average of 150W or so. I might be able to hold for a few minutes in the 250 range but then I need to slow down.
Keep up the great work Mark. Show up those young dudes (All Saints - LMAO 🤣)
Made me chuckle to 😂 and I put it in the video 😄
@13:16 I just howled with laughter, I love this channel.
excellent choice of music
Great stuff this! I notice you watch isn’t on, what do you use to track your hr? Love your videos by the way! Keep them coming 👍🏻👍🏻
Heart rate strap on chest