Zebra G Nibs -- Dip Pen Review
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- čas přidán 11. 11. 2018
- These dip pen nibs worked a lot better for me than they did the last time I tried something similar.
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Before use: scrub the oil off from the store, I burn it off with a match
In use: use thick india ink
Load up by dipping untill halfway up the well
unload the nib by stroking the upper side on the inkbottle, not the bottom side
Never: dip directly in your jar of ink, use a second smaller flask, reason: the pen will gather amounts of paper fiber and it will contaminate the ink
After use: rinse with warm water, store upright and let it airdry for 2 days
Thanks for the tips! :)
No problem.
@@peter_draws struggled with these sharp thingies since day one, might as well make it easier by sharing all the knowledge I have obtained on this intereconnected platform of individuals
Found this vid a while back, with a master calligrapher demonstrating how to prep a nib - he gives some great reasons not to use a flame (ruins the temper of the metal). The link should go right to the useful part czcams.com/video/NTYJ1xVnrXo/video.html Hope it helps!
I know this has became old but I would appreciate any help.
Are G pen nibs supposed to be scratchy? How can I know if its time to replace my nib?
I have an old Nikko nib that I started using again. I even forgot how was it the first time I used it. It feels very scratchy even though I barely put any pressure on the paper while using it. I'm also having a hard time adjusting to it. I feel like the friction is just too much to draw freely with it. Is this normal? Can I just assume that it's not for me?
I don't want to spend on a new set that will make me hate myself.
add some sugar and water to the ink im sure it'll taste better
Lmao
Lmao
*dies of poison*
And
*Lives again of the sweet sugar water*
that's how the grape drink is created
Lol
*licks ink*
it’s alright
_doesn’t taste like grape though :(_
Lol!
"That oil has to come off"
"Dry the nib after cleaning"
"Thats fountain pen ink, gotta use india ink" - these are all examples of advice I was gonna give, but then I realized your results were really damn good so what the hell do I know. Just keep doing whatever works I guess. Bye. Goodbye.
goodbye
haha, thanks. Yes this seems to be the same sort of advice other people are leaving, and I'm sure it's good and helpful, but like you say, I'm also happy with how it worked this way.
Reminded me of my school days in art class when we had to create a complete piece using nothing but a dip pen and different coloured inks.....result was VERY messy and hands that were covered in ink for the rest of the lessons. Great fun though!
Yeah I guess a great advantages of dip pens is the ability to switch ink colors quickly. I should try that a little more sometime! :)
@@peter_draws hey pete how did he get the video so early, i wanna go.
@@peter_draws also what happens to the pens that you do a review on like i doubt you use them all on a regular basis. i can just imagine a big ole draw filled with different pens and stuff ooooo and those test tube lookin inks there cool
@@iisgamer6997 He's on Patreon, they get early access. Also yeah, I have a pen drawer with bunches of pens :P
@@peter_draws *mouth procedes to froth*
I was like whaaaaaat? When you tasted the ink. Haha 2:03
Me too, then I thought he probably checked ahead of time to make sure no poisonous ingredients.
Well, this ink basically is a mix of water, glycerol and dye, so it shouldn't be very poisonous. I tried it also and I'm still alive :D
Artists often mouth their brushes to straighten them, most career artists get pretty relaxed about their supplies.
Fountain pen ink may be okay since it is more water based. Inks with an acrylic base or have shellac I may be a bit more .....hesitant about.
Lol I just cringed a bit, especially at the amount of purple on his tongue😂
Man I love how real you are like you don't worry what people will think about you when you talk and I love how you think about things it's so nice
The reason the titanium nibs cost more, besides being made out of a more expensive metal, is because when they rust it forms a protective layer to prevent further corrosion and the rust isnt as flaky and gritty as normal steel rust
"It tastes alright" chaotic evil
Can we pretty please have some vlogs, they don't have to be daily I just really want to see more of your life as well as your art
For the past few days I've had your videos queued up as I go to sleep. This is the kind of content I desperately want more of! Thank you for this review. Getting a few of these nibs soon, haven't drawn with dip pens in years.
Im a really big fan of how these turn out!! I love the line textures in this piece specifically!
Hey peter, just stopped by to say- your work and your channel really has inspired me. I love the vibes from this channel and your artwork is truly wonderful! Thank you so much for creating such quality content. Have a great day!
I love watching you draw, very relaxing.
I love every. Single. Video. Drawing. Podcast... EVERYTHING! You make. I just really wanted you to know that. You're works are a staple in my daily life. So thank you and stay well. You are very loved.
I love this doodle Peter! It reminds me a bit of my grandmother's old couch... Have a nice day!
Peter. Thank you, I really feel like your vids are worth the time and effort you put into them.
Beautiful lines Peter! I love how the drawing turned out.
who eles just loves this guy he is so out there and i love it even his art it awesome an unique 😁
G nibs with ink cages are available. The cages act as reservoirs to hold more ink. They're a bit pricier and harder to clean, but they're neat. But you can get much more drawing time with a non-reservoir nib if you use a more viscous ink (if you want to use fountain pen ink, you can, but you may need to add some gum arabic to thicken it) and remove the protective oils from the nib first with dish soap, alcohol, passing it through a flame briefly, etc.
I went out and bought some sketch books and I ordered some fountain pens because of you. You make it look fun. Cheers!
I really love how this turned out 😍
Wow! It's been ages since I've seen someone show up G-Pens on CZcams. They truly are great for drawing manga
Edit: there's three types of nibs - the G Pen which you're using, the "Maru" nib which you described which is done for small line work and the Kabura pen which doesn't flex as much as the G.
Loved this one especially! Inspiring.
this is probably one of the first times ive watched your videos without the intension of drawing along or drawing the same thing or trying to practice through replication. i dunno it just seems super refreshing. but yeah i do like to practice my art by going along with you art. its cool cuz when ever im stuck i can just look up and see what ever shape or piece of detail i see. its really funny cuz the end product never looks anything like the inspiration
Peter, If you want to extend your drawing time, you can modify the pen holders by drilling them out and adding a pen feed. The fins will hold more ink, allowing for more draw time. 😊
edit: as for the rusted speed ball nibs, they were not fully dry when you put them away. The design, though good for holding a respectable amount of ink, also traps allot of water when you clean them.
I don't know how much your trying to be funny but you're very entertaining, and of course one heck of a artist. Thanks!
Watching this about 4 years later as about to start using a nib pen...had a look at you channel - think there might be well-needed humour in this ole art life thing and subscribed.
Found your account recently and I’m loving all your vids!
Love your drawings and love your reviews. Great work!
You can use those little descant packs from packaging they put in shoes ,luggage to keep moisture out. A stick of chalk and even keeping them in a box filled with rice slows the rusting down. Thanks for sharing your talent and your soothing voice.
I dip new nibs into boiling or near-boiling water for 30-60 seconds to remove the shellac that manufacturer's add to keep them sparkly and shiny in the store. Don't let water or ink (or saliva) sit on the nib after using and cleaning (and licking) it, although some nibs will occasionally rust anyway. Finally, ink is ideally sipped from a crystal ink snifter after several swirls around the glass and an appreciative whiff.
We had to draw with dip pens in school and I hated it and never touched one again. But watching you makes me want to try it again! Love your videos!
Beautiful doodling!
This week I made a discovery, that Brause has a Fountain Pen that fits the Zebra G without modification, along with their own awesome nibs. They now sell it on Amazon in the US/Canadian link. :)
When I dip, I dip and back swipe the nib. I never have issues this way. Now, it is a habit ingrained enough to no longer think about the dip and swipe. You can add a small spring to the underside and it lasts longer. Angle to the page is important to not snag the paper.
Love your art. Nice to see you using one of my fav nibs for drawing and calligraphy style penmanship.
Cleaning the nib with toothpaste or a diluted Windex from the point to just up to just short of the “G”. Then rinse and dry off without crushing the nib. Not touching it with fingers is a good idea. The natural oil from our hands affects the flow too.
Cleaning usually is just dipping in clean water and light wipe. Again if needed. Love, love, love my Zebra G.
Glad it behaved well for you. That means another revisit on it’s use in the future, eh?
Used as tutorial representing what not to do with not used nibs. Very useful and informative vodeo.
I'm sure people have said this before but your art would make amazing tattoos!
I bought this set after your review and LOVE it. Paired with J. Herbin India/Chinese Ink (J. Herbin Encres de Chine) and the results were wonderful. I tested the nibs against other inks but found this J. Herbin India Ink was the best match - allowed for light lines without skipping and thicker lines without over-saturating. Just wanted to share in case it might be helpful!
Impressive, pretty drawing Peter. Those are difficult pens to draw with. I used to draw calligraphy.
Then I ditched those for the thin line ones. I still recall that scratching sound on the paper you meantioned. Hats off to you powning these pens fella. ❤😎
Nice video peter! G pens are mainly used for drawing not so much for writing. In fact many manga artists use G pens to either get in small details in their work or they outright only use G pens when inking their work. Its very interesting, though if you ever receive the school-manga version of the G pen, then be wary of it as ink tends to not flow good through it.
Shows the level of mastery of the old school comic book artists and illustrators who drew beautifully with dip pens and brush.
Yeeeey another dip pen attempt from Peter! I always enjoy watching these kinds of videos xD
Most companies coat their nibs in some kind of oil before they ship em off. Use rubbing alcohol on the nib before you use it and you'll notice the ink will hold in the reservoir better.
Another, kinda iffy, way you can prep it is by using a lighter on the nib for a tiny amount of time. Only do this when you first use them as too much heat can make the metal weak. For cleaning, use a dry paper towel to get excess ink off and finish it with some rubbing alcohol
This made me laugh so many times! You are hysterical to listen to :) As for the drawing… absolutely fascinating!
Your voice is calming like an asmr video
I like when the ink railroads the design is amazing
Peter you're my hero
This dude is a legend
You forgot to burn or clean off the machining oils. Nibs have a thin layer of oil to prevent rust. You need to dip them in alcohol or run them over a match or candle for a second. That's why it won't hold much ink, the oil lets the ink run off instead of clinging to the metal
Zebra and Nikko are my fav pen/nib types. Almost never use anything other than them now.
I like this, idk for some reason this piece seems much more cartoony than usual...
*thank you peter, very cool*
Enjoyed watching your doodling! Was shocked to see you put ink in your month. Should the ink be organic?
He wasn't kidding about trying it
You should really try using india ink for dip-pens, Peter.
This ink you've been using is better for fountain pens as it is much thinner and doesn't stick to the insides of it. Dip-pens are mostly used with india ink as it is much thicker and sticks to the nib better.
Love, xx
Also, after every use once you rinse nibs just dry them off with a paper towel or something.
Yeah that seems to be the consensus, the india ink thing. I'll have to give it a shot, even though this actually worked pretty good.
Very nice drawing. Unfortunately I left my dip pens in Asia when I left to return back to my home country. Now looking at which brands I can get posted back home. Great video.
I put one of these in a Noodler's Ahab!
I had to heat set the feed with the G nib in, which wasn't too tough, and I have this weird flow thing where I need to hold the pen roughly horizontal to get a reasonable ink flow rate -- you definitely don't need to use the 'razor trick' they tell you to do with the Jinhaos -- but it's really satisfying to draw with and write with, and the pen has so much personality with the lines it puts down.
It's really not even that difficult, just align the feed right (the horizontal bit in the nib lines up to about the first horizontal line in the feed), put the nib and feed straight into the section thing -- there's a cutout in mine where the nib goes but I'm not sure if the older Ahabs have that -- and then dip that in hot water until there's no space between the nib and the feed.
Thing's amazing, especially since the Ahab's filling mechanism holds so much ink.
The titanium is titanium nitride coating and it is used for lubricity so the pen gluides better at least that’s what it’s for on cutting tools is for lubricity
I'm super late on this video but I've been doing calligraphy for over 2 years and the best 2 ways to prep your nibs before use is to either 1) insert it into a potato or 2) clean with lemon juice and wipe off access with a damp cloth. The acid in both items is strong enough to rid of the chemical coating used to prolong the shelf life of a nib. For after care use, instead of using water to clean the nib, use either the Bombay or Speedball pen cleaner. I love this drawing that you created with the Zebra G.
Back at it agian.
I'm not sure why but I think this is my very favoritest drawing of yours.
Other youtubers I watch while walking around, eating lunch, lying in bed. With your videos I always make a nice cup of tea and sit down in an armchair. Maybe that says something.
I love your art style
I just want to sit and drink tea, create art and learn from Peter. 😍💕
Loved the drawing. You should clean the new nibs with a cloth a bit of rubbing alcohol and clean the dry ink with water after you finish drawing with them. The nickle plating will prevent any rust. Also its always better to remove the nib from the holder, sometimes water or ink gets in the nib holding area and promote rust in the nib. I keep all my used nibs separated from the new ones in a similar plastic storage box and wrapped in a piece of paper towel.
I am thinking of trying one of these nibby ink dip pens for my channel! Are there some easier than others? Btw Love watching your doodle art :)
The G nib shown here is a great start. Just dont go with fountain pen ink - pick up some india ink (i use speed ball)
If you want ease of use the B series speedball nibs are smooth and easy. B-5, B-6, etc. For an everyday nib (for cartooning and manga) the “G” nib has become very popular. It has a great line variation and is just stiff enough for me. I use Deleter Black #4, but there are other good inks too. Purchase a nice thicker nib holder, such as the Tachikawa T-40. ($6 on Amazon). The thicker pen will help steady your stroke. Prep the nib, dip the nib fully to fill the reservoir, stroke the nib on the lip of the ink bottle to remove excess ink, and practice, practice, practice! Lastly remember that even the great inkers like Jack Kirby corrected their drawings with bleed proof white, (white out), so don’t beat yourself up if it isn’t perfect right off the bat. :-)
Beautiful drawing, radiant ink!
This ink is very cheap(cheaper inks often are dry) , and it is for fountain pens. Deep pens are intended to be used with thicker inks. This will fix running out of ink issue while thicker inks can damage, clog, discolor and do such unpleasant things with your fountain pen, so use each with their inks
Titanium is heat anodized to achieve certain colors such as gold, blue, and purple. The same can be done for aluminum and steel.
I started with Fountain pens around the age of 10. Then I found a quill pen for sale at a civil war museum. Cheap thing, but I LOVED it. Used it until the quill finally cracked. It never had a metal nib, so it was bound to happen eventually. Got another one and it was crappier. Tried to make my own, only got one to semi work. Eventually I moved to dip pens. I'm still a quill pen person at heart though.
Your drawing skills are amazing
If you have a Jinhao x450 or x750 you can put the Zebra G in their feed, it's not ideal but if you think it's hard to use it as a dip pen it's an option.
The ink tends to stick better if you burn the nib tip for one or two seconds. They come packaged with an oil that keeps them from rusting and it doesn’t play well with ink. Might make your life easier next time XD. I’ve been waiting for you to use this tool for so long and I wasn’t disappointed!
What is the difference between the normal zebra nib and the titanium one?
Hi Peter! I am brand new to trying dip pens myself, but I do have a couple of thoughts that may help? For cleaning nibs, I just take a cloth and wipe away the ink without washing the nib. The ink comes clean off as long as you clean it right when you're done using the pen. Also I am not sure if brand of G-Nib makes a difference but the ones I have tried are the Nikko brand and they last a good stretch between dips. The ink I have been using is Deleter 3. It only globs out if I accidentally have the pen facing the wrong direction or I lay it down too heavy. www.jetpens.com/Nikko-Comic-Pen-Nib-G-Model-Pack-of-3/pd/12006
I have the same holder but my nib is soo wobbly, did i get a defective holder or something?
Idk about washing but a handmade kitchen knife I had I would dry immediately after washing. I do store my tools and all steel with those packets you get with shoes and about anything else to keep moisture out.
i saw two mistakes with the whole setup that ended up making the nib hold very little ink. the first is that you actually have to remove the oil coating from the nib by using a lighter and quickly running the nib over it a couple times. alcohol also works but i always end up poking myself accidentally so i just use the lighter since its easier. the second thing is that the ink you used is pretty runny, i recommend a slightly thicker/ regular ink since the nib holds more and you have more control over your lines
Hi Peter, How long did it take you to draw this picture?
Also you can a brush instead dipping your nib in the ink. It holds more ink and it saves your time a lot.
Peter the pens come covered in an oil, you have to clean it with rubbing alcohol or a lgihtet also does the trick the reason it didnt hold a lot of ink is due to the ink not sticking to the oil
i watched this on your twitch but i’ll watch it again💙💙
Same here, watching it again now xd
That ink color is LOVELY, I love it! Please tell me the brand of the ink, and color number.
does peter do commision work? if so where can i find hes rate
I’m sorry I’m new here
Did he just taste the ink.
Is that safe?
As someone else said, you never just stick a nib in and start using it. You notice the ink isn't sticking to the nib at all, it just wants to roll off it. You have to CLEAN the nib first, THEN the ink will adhere to the nib and give you much more line work. This goes back to the 1800's and everyone knew this. Its in all the "how to" correspondence books from the early 20's. You hit the nib with a flame for a a microsecond and the oil burns off. Hit it too long and the nib will collapse under pressure. You can also just suck on the nib in your to do the same thing. Or, clean it first with alcohol to wipe the oil off or soap and water. Dip pens are a whole WORLD of amazing nibs for many purposes. I have a huge collection of nibs from the 20's and later. The modern versions of some of these nibs just don't match the quality of vintage nibs, though, I gotta say, that Hunt still makes kick ass nibs with beautiful flex.
Why taste the ink? I’m not familiar with dip pens, I’m new to this sort of thing.
FINALLY, i've been doodling with this kind of dip pen for a long time, now it's your turnnnnn
dear Mr peter... i have been doing lots of 'doodles' i say doodles because im really not sure what they are. you have really inspired me to draw more and to draw what ever i feel like. i would really love to show you my drawings. i have scanned them into my PC. i don't know if you will even see this but hey its worth a try. thank you for being such an inspiration.
I got the titanium version. It's wonderful :3
How often were you dipping during this drawing?
You can burn the oil coating off with a light flame, you just have to leave it in for about 2 seconds and the ink stays on for so much longer
Amazing purple draw...
Gotta hold your pen more upright lol. Helps the ink to flow downward so you don’t run out so quick
Please does anybody know what that ink is called!! It looks so good!
i guess it really depends on what the nib is made out of if its made of stainless steel i would assume you should wash with light detergent and pat dry making sure that you dont leave any any any water on the nib what ever metal doesnt oxadize into rust thats the one to go with cause rust sucks
You need a more viscous ink for that, like Deleter Ink or India Ink. Also, you need to get the oil off the tip of the nib with either alcohol on a paper towel, putting it over fire for 5 seconds, or hot water for a few seconds.
I want that doodle as a tattoo
actually the bob ross of pen and paper
Every time I dip my nibs into the ink 🖋 I use a Second small sheet of paper put some lines on it like one or two then go back to my drawing and ink it so no drops are on it hope this helps you 🥰🙏🏼
My experience is that Dip pen nips get surface rust, even the ones I haven't used yet, it don't affect the useage of them, so it is more visual.