Pros vs Cons of When to USE Pointers in Golang

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  • čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
  • Go is an incredibly good programming language. It is gaining in popularity and is increasingly being used in fields such as cloud computing, backend and infrastructure.
    In this video I go through a Reddit article that discusses how and when to user pointers in Go. This is a popular question so we go through it here!
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Komentáře • 47

  • @MelkeyDev
    @MelkeyDev  Před měsícem +9

    I hope you all enjoy this video! Let me know what you think in the comments

  • @themichaelw
    @themichaelw Před měsícem +8

    *context* I've been working full time in Go at an org with > 1000 engineers for the past 2 years, and I've read The Go Programming Language cover to cover. So I'm a decent gopher by most standards.
    I pretty much only _pass_ pointers when mutability of the original object is desirable. I _use_ pointers in structs when a value is optional, eg. when parsing from json. Objects like slices and maps are *no more efficient to pass to as a pointer than by value*, since the "value" of a slice/map is a "header" struct with a 3 fields denoting length, capacity, and a pointer to the first address of the slice. So there's already a pointer under the hood, no need to create another. Also, pass-by-value is typically faster for small things. And if you're running on 64 bit hardware and you're passing pointers to < 64 bit variables like int32, you're literally using twice as much space to pass that as a pointer than you would to just copy the 32 bit value, since a pointer will be full word, or 64 bits on that architecture.

  • @fersalamanca2606
    @fersalamanca2606 Před měsícem +9

    I think that for us Go noobs some code examples illustrating these points would be hugely benefitial

  • @rosehogenson1398
    @rosehogenson1398 Před měsícem +11

    Whenever you return an invalid value from a function, either nil or an uninitialized struct, it's good to include an extra bool (or error) return as well. For example:
    func f() (*MyStruct, bool) {
    if !somePrecondition() {
    return nil, false
    }
    return &MyStruct{}, true
    }
    This greatly reduces the chance that the caller will forget to check for nil, and get a nil pointer dereference. This comes from the builtin map type, and the _, ok := pattern.

    • @MelkeyDev
      @MelkeyDev  Před měsícem +1

      OOOO
      This is awesome.
      And if you want to return an error, would you just append it?

    • @johanneswelsch
      @johanneswelsch Před měsícem

      thanks, makes sense

  • @cristophermoreno2290
    @cristophermoreno2290 Před měsícem +7

    🔥I use pointers to:
    👉 `mutate` data between 2 isolated `code blocks (functions)`
    👉 Avoid new memory allocations
    👉 make the Garbage Collector happy ...
    Thank you for the great video !

  • @tamdomus
    @tamdomus Před měsícem +6

    2 More pros:
    - Can use methods with both pointer and value receivers.
    - Does not copy the sync.Mutex

  • @daltonyon
    @daltonyon Před 22 dny

    Great vide Melkey, I understand more about pointers in Go awesome language!!

  • @justintie
    @justintie Před měsícem +11

    Copying a struct is much faster than messing with pointers, unless it is a huge struct

    • @MelkeyDev
      @MelkeyDev  Před měsícem

      Yep. If its a huge struct then copying becomes inefficient

    • @TehKarmalizer
      @TehKarmalizer Před měsícem

      This is why I think mixed API isn’t a strong con. It may be warranted for performance, and doesn’t strike me as very different from simply returning different types.

    • @julienrefour6022
      @julienrefour6022 Před 16 dny

      Yeah, gotta consider the overhead of the GC having to perform escape analysis on pointers. Most cases copying is faster simply because the value is just on the stack and is easily cleaned up when the function returns.

  • @Zmey5656
    @Zmey5656 Před 8 dny +1

    I used to think that the pointer in GoLang was an advantage over other languages, but now, after your video, I understand that we have different opinions about the pointer.

  • @afsdab
    @afsdab Před měsícem +4

    I'm learning Go and for now I'm returning in every function I have, but I watched a bunch of videos that recommend if I'm getting info and I won't do any change in the state the function should not return a pointer.
    I'll give a try for this approach and see what happens

    • @MelkeyDev
      @MelkeyDev  Před měsícem +2

      I think thats a good rule of thumb.
      In all honestly, on smaller scale apps, either approach will be good

  • @jordangregory9852
    @jordangregory9852 Před měsícem +2

    Great video! Personally I’m purely in the “pointer for mutability only” camp. I default to copies so I can’t mutate things on accident.

  • @MattRobinsonDev
    @MattRobinsonDev Před měsícem

    Great video

  • @amadijerry7607
    @amadijerry7607 Před měsícem

    I started learning GO, a few months ago. How we can structure our codes to prevent import cycle errors

  • @johanneswelsch
    @johanneswelsch Před měsícem

    What do you think about filling up DB with values instead of nil? I've been bitten by this before where a nil db field could not be scanned into a struct field. It was a runtime error.

  •  Před měsícem

    Hey @MelkeyDev do you have any suggestion for a book/course/any other resource to learn computer science concepts in Go?

    • @MelkeyDev
      @MelkeyDev  Před měsícem +1

      czcams.com/video/qT14b1pxtiI/video.html&t I made this video - let me know if its helpfu

  • @erikslorenz
    @erikslorenz Před měsícem +1

    I tend not to use pointers when it’s record type values. For example user. A lot of the times it’s coming out of a context and I need that to be a real val

  • @paca3107
    @paca3107 Před měsícem +1

    Please make a video how to avoid memory leaks!

  • @emil_l889
    @emil_l889 Před měsícem +1

    Once spent like an hour getting nil pointer deference when working w redis only to realize that I forgot to initialize the struct😭😔

  • @kenzo3477
    @kenzo3477 Před měsícem +3

    use pointers in C 🚫
    use pointers in go ✅

  • @peerlesstuber9693
    @peerlesstuber9693 Před měsícem +1

    I just recently ran into this issue being new at go. I needed to be able to handle three situations for my database api: (1) searching for NULL values, (2) searching for present values like "hello", (3) skipping the parameter altogether so as to not make it a constraint. The best way I found to do that so far is by making a "nullable argument" where nil means to search for NULL and an empty string means to skip. Please correct me if you have a better solution!!!

  • @ofadiman
    @ofadiman Před měsícem +2

    Could you point me to the nearest grocery store using golang?

  • @viniciusmachadorodrigues1724

    I only use pointers when i purposelly want to modify the struct somewhere.

  • @AntonLukas
    @AntonLukas Před měsícem +5

    Most of the downsides appear to just be skill issues

    • @MelkeyDev
      @MelkeyDev  Před měsícem +3

      Everything is a skill issue if you break it down

    • @AntonLukas
      @AntonLukas Před měsícem +1

      @@MelkeyDev Fair enough, great video by the way.

  • @GabrielGasp
    @GabrielGasp Před 20 dny

    Using pointers should be an intentional and deliberate action. If you are not sure, don’t use it until you are.
    I’ve seen plenty projects where EVERY struct is a pointer and it sucks big time.

  • @luizpbraga
    @luizpbraga Před měsícem +1

    return a stack pointer is just weird

  • @erikslorenz
    @erikslorenz Před měsícem

    Nah always give the shit struct back and an error

  • @sirbuttonhd
    @sirbuttonhd Před měsícem +1

    first first first