How to beat 200NL Zone: Play & Explain Episode 5
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- We fire up some 200NL Zone to prove that these stakes are still quite beatable and soft
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I like the chill ambient music. I think you are creating very valuable content. I m looking forward to your next videos.
It's funny how the channel is called "Make Poker Simple", but there are still a bunch of nuanced situations that are well-explained here. Great stuff.
I try my best to break it down. I wish I could have a channel called “makepokereasy” but unfortunately that would be dishonest
Absolutely best channel. Really appreciate these lower stakes videos. I learn so much
thank you
love these zoom videos man great stuff keep it up. super helpful
The speed you play at shows how well you know your spots. We got a professional here!
One of the best poker channels out
Great video man love the content and the way u break down hands
Definitely want more longer play and explains than shorts! :).
yep looking to post about one a week going forward
love your videos man super solid stuff 👍
thank you
Absolutely loving these videos and learning a ton from watching them. Would you apply similar strategies to a live 1-3 or 2-5 game? Feels like there may be many more opportunities at playing exploitatively and being balanced may not be as important. But I'd like to avoid having them become bad habits as I'd like to eventually move up to bigger games.
@@haumph id apply the same strategies but not in the way you think unfortunately. Live and online play end up looking very different from a action point of view, but the underlying theory is the same. Unfortunately it takes years to understand the theory, so for most players it’s easier to learn the action, and which does look different.
Basically the theory is the same but you take different actions.
please no music and longer or more frequent videos. watching you has been exactly the learning ive needed and improved my performance with each video! you do you though as of current i am appreciative :D also, i would be curious to see how you player profile and make decisions with that in a session with names shown/not switching tables every hand (no rush!).. thank you bro!!
ill remove the music thanks
Music is perfectly low volume and peaceful lol
I like the music
Cool random click from the algorithm. I enjoyed all the commentary and felt like I aligned with every play and justification besides one, utg open and we fold 88 in the sb. Yes I know you only play 3bet or fold BUT on anonymous sites is there no value in pure set mining from the sb? And I mean specifically sb versus utg open, having flats. Also when 3betting the utg's "strong" range they 4bet a lot anyways so all our 3bets get bloated. I like to experiment with flats from the sb versus utg, and once that door is opened I kinda think about traps that can backraise against the bb 3bet but it's starts to get silly. I understand the simplicity of 3bet or fold, and perhaps I am chasing some dopamine as you say and stubbornness to not play too boring.
Anyways thanks for the content
if your small blind flat range is just 88 then that overall strategy is -ev
love these vids thank you.
That TT hand was surprising, but I checked a solver and it appears correct. If you check/jam river, opponent pretty much only calls with better boats and will even fold some combos of TT. If you check/raise 35% to 55% oddly enough they are supposed to fold JJ more often than TT. I'm guessing because when you have KJ you want to jam more often and when you have KT you want to raise smaller more often. AK actually becomes a call versus the smaller raise due to blocker effects whereas flushes and straights fold. In practice, it can probably be folded since people are likely to under bluff that line in general.
@@PaperPlateParody yep, surprising isn’t it. Most people wouldn’t think twice before piling their stack in
but also in practice people don't just call KJ/JJ. AQ and AK will also definitely call. i advocate for a raise-fold on the river.
@@kevdawg55 As a 200NL, 100NL, and 50NL reg, I would probably bet fold AQ on that river. At the end of the day it all depends on who you're playing against.
@@PaperPlateParody well in the beginning he says 200 is very beatable so on avg we have to assume our anonymous opponent isn’t that great and thus we have a value raise
Always love the longer content videos
wow the pocket tens guy losing is brutal for his flop strength, idk what he's betting river for value w/ since he loses to any jack, wild hand at 35:40 but ya cheers for the session
man love the content ty
For the zone poker, I saw that u wanted to see how the hand played out with 88s and u would’ve rivered a boat, so my question is how did u stay to watch the hand play out on zone after clicking fold, because once u click fold it automatically puts u into another table for next hand
@@rushhour4460 you click sit out before folding
What is your largest downer from pure luck?
you're probably better then me but man, we have to take a shot with TT there. He has KJ and JJ only that beat us. Raise and fold to a jam imo. I like check-calling flop and turn, but river we have to click it back i think
Not raising TT OTT or OTR is a blunder IMO. He has only 12 combos of value that beat you, if we count all the offsuit KJ/KT as well.
Meanwhile, you beat 16 combos of AQ, 4 combo Q9s, 16 combo AK/KQ for 36 combos you are ahead of.
just because you beat stuff doesnt mean youll get called by it
@@makepokersimple you will certainly get called by AQ and Q9 and at some frequency KQ because it blocks a lot of your value combos. Writing off a hand as “not a raise” just because you lose to some value will hold you back in the long run.
@@BoraxExterminator it’s just not a raise idk what to tell you
How can someone play on bodog
That was a passive play w 10s against what happened to be AQ there. Villian has way more AK, AQ, and KQ there than he does JJ, KJ, and Quads…lol - A clear value raise on the turn/river and can even stack off if you get sizing right on turn. I think you may have got a little distracted with the JJ on the other board and lost some value
Your only supporting argument was that reg players will fold AQ. But you’re dominating these stakes because you’re targeting recs…haha. If villian had million combos of JJ, KJ, and K10 (which you double block), he also has a million AK, AQ, and KQ, all of which recs will stack off with.
I’m being very critical but good stuff, you’re definitely a strong player
If you really wanted to, you could carve out a small raise size but I was trying to say that it’s much, much thinner of a raise than it looks at first glance.
And generally I’m not a fan of eeeking out tiny amounts of value through super thin raises, we just don’t get called by worse here over 50% of the time.
@@makepokersimple to me this could fall into a spot i love to do against recs which is to minclick 2x or smth like 2.5x. yes we don't have a lot of bluffs and could get jammed on against smart villains but recs will sigh call all day. feels like we're missing out on a decent amount of EV in a rec pool without raising
@@hidude1354Villain was almost certainly not a rec tho tbf. I personally like a 3.5x raise there as it actually makes sense from a range perspective
my biggest problem playing with recs is going multi ways to the flop, often times 4 or 5 ways. People call just about any raise size preflop. What would you recommend doing? Great content btw
@@az4jzon check a lot and accept that when you see a flop 5 ways you’re going to lose the hand 80% of the time
Big fan of your content here, always wanted to ask this: what would you tell an intermediate player about heuristics for bet/raise sizing? What factors should be considered?
bet the flop small and bet the turn/river large. also bluff large.
9:34 seems like a great candidate for a block size given the runout and your particular hand
not sure which hand youre taking about but generally we dont want to block bet as a bluff too much
@@makepokersimple The pocket threes, it seems as though you have some medium sd value you might want to realize vs ak,aq,kq, ax w/ a suit and since your range has more straights the bet won't get raised too often
@@benjaminadler2001 if you want to realize vs ak aq ax then you just check back. as soon as you bet this hand you're bluffing, therefore you should never use a block sizing because blocking requires worse hands to call
@@hidude1354 he was out of position in the hand I’m referring to
@@benjaminadler2001 oh my b. then we 100% never block bc nothing worse is calling
Can you explain why you don't like to trap newer players. This works very well for me when I play 1/2, 1/3 at casinos live.
weak players dont like to fold
Thanks. Also, i think that casinos and poker rooms 1/2 and 1/3 are significantly more profitable and soft than online. My online winnings are mediocre while im up almost 3 grand in the last few weeks and more in total playing a couple times a week. Highly recommend.
11:50 Not going for value on that pocket 10s boat seems wrong to me. You lose to K10(2 combos) JJ (3combos), KJ(6 combos) (and KK (1 combo). You said this level is weak so people will bet/call for value with the straights, flushes and weaker boat and possibly even KX. AQ alone (which he had) has more combos than all the hands that beat you and weaker players will call raises with straights and flushes on a paired board.
Yeah u could probably raise it but I’m trying to communicate that it’s a much thinner raise than it looks, and in practice is kind of borderline whereas most people will pile their stack in without a second thought and be shocked when they’re coolered.
Nice video! How do you decide when it is appropriate to deviate from theory vs regs? How confident do you have to be?
theory always applies. if someone overbluffs it is now theoretically optimal to overcall.
Would u like to record ur GGpoker 200NL play too?
& Can u change it to BB not $ ?
thanks for the video !
Won’t be recording GG but you can expect more content from WPT global soon. If you sign up with my link in the video description you get a free 1-1 coaching session.
Hey I applied for your coaching but you cancelled out call last minute any reason why
hey its just an application. i do reject people if theyre not a good fit, often times because theyre a bit too early to be looking for mentorship.
12 Combos of AKO, 12 of AQo, 6 of Aces that might take that line. 4, AKs and AQs, 34 combos that are likely to call a raise on river (at very least some of time). 1 combo of KK, 1 combo 3 combos of JJ, some KJs and low frequency KJo. N00b
Just says a million combos that beat you, when it's actually more combos of hands you beat. You can raise and fold to jam. So n00b
@@michaelbaskin7905 what are you rambling about
@makepokersimple you said their are a million combos that beat you, but there are more combos of hands that don't and that you could get value from.. u r nub
When you’re out of position as the pre-flop raiser are you checking range 100% of the time?
Not 100% but a lot
also i wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts as checking range 100% OOP as PFR? besides 4b pots and some obvious 3bp situations?
It’s a fine simplification
Around 21 mins you say its a poor play to call out of position with AJ. Does that hand prefer to 4 bet bluff, or is it a pure fold? Maybe a mixed strategy?
always bad to call offsuit hands out of position. suited is fine.
Why do you open 2.5x from all positions? Thought it was standard theory to open 2.5x only from the BTN
it doesnt really make a big difference. opening 2x is fine too
Had to turn off after 9 minutes and the T9o hand. So many spots played poorly, no real demonstration of beating the limit.
yep one of us is playing poorly
Can you explain the hand at 11:50 a bit more? We only lose to KJs, maybe KTs, and JJ. But we can get value from AQ, AK, KQ. Why do we not raise here
because regs arent sticking their stack in with AQ there. when the money goes in youll be up against a higher boat
@@makepokersimpleMakes sense, but I feel like you could get value from Kx as they block boats themselves with that hand. I mean, unless you think their Kx is all weighted towards better boats
@@makepokersimpleif villain is bet-folding AQ (16 combos) and only calling boats with KJ (6), KT (6) TT (3), JJ (3), then hes folding at least 48%. If he also has AK and KQ bet folding, then jamming any two becomes profitable? Seems risky. Obviously an ok shove with blockers like JT
At 20:30, how is it a bad board for your range? Aren’t button ranges a lot more polarized because you’re playing with more hands. Would love an explanation on this.
think about the hands that villain calls 3bet with
@@makepokersimple that makes sense I feel like a moron 😭 thanks very much for the response and I love your videos
At 35:08, you opened CO, BT and BB called. You had KhQs, flop is Q94ccc, it was x to BT who bet 1/3, BB called, and you just folded top pair good kicker? Isn't that too nitty or is that how tight we're supposed to be in multi way?
Yeah it’s probably a call vs 1/3 but it’s much, much closer than you think
@@makepokersimple Thank you for the reply. That makes sense!
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Do you run into bots at bodog?
unfortunately yes
If u want to make ur videos more marketable then make a decent thumbnail. Pay someone $5 online to make one it’ll pay dividends.
Also make ur wallpaper black or some solid color. Not tryna hate just tryna give feedback
Thank you, it’s in the works. Focused on some other stuff right now but will be hiring an editor after that’s all done.
Don’t do it I’m in this pool and I want this channel all to myself jk. Thank you for the awesome content!!
@@benjaminlopez9662 lol youre welcome
Honestly don't waste your time watching this. The dude will stop playing/streaming online in 1-3 years max and you aren't going to learn anything. Mumbo Jumbo play and explain. Just go out and play live and evaluate your play yourself or you will never get good. This dude will either quit online and start grinding live or just quit poker. Same story for countless people like him. DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WATCHING THESE.
yes the idea is to quit poker in a few years but probably not in the way you think