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I use the Pod Go on bass. Playing live, the ‘amp out’ jack is an excellent feature on the Pod Go that I plug into the return of my effects loop of my amp. This way I’m using the preamp of the Pod Go with the power section of my amp. I plug the Pod Go’s output to the mixer to include cab simulation. Also, the bass overdrives are excellent. Pod Go is brilliant for bass.
Enjoyed the review.
I started with the Helix Floor in 2017. In Dec 2019 I bought the HX Stomp as a scaled-back rig for those Sundays when I played only acoustic & didn't need all the effects of the full Helix and didn't want to lug my big Helix Floor. But then the PodGo came out, with the built-in Exp pedal, and I bought it in May 2020 to replace the Stomp. However I soon realized that the Stomp had a lot more flexibility and DSP power in terms of customizing a signal path than did/does the PodGo. But I didn't like the fact that the Stomp only has 3 foot switches, limiting the number of Snapshots and ability to switch easily between Presets. In other words, I liked the user interface of the PodGo better than the Stomp, but I liked the signal creation flexibility of the Stomp better than the PodGo!
Along comes the Stomp XL, which combines the signal creation flexibility and DSP power of the Stomp with the better user interface of the PodGo! So I just bought the Stomp XL a few weeks ago, and I'm going to sell the Stomp and PodGo. Yes, the XL lacks the Exp pedal of the PodGo, but I don't mind adding an external Exp pedal. And the whole thing is still way smaller/compact than my full Helix Floor rig. I still love the full Helix, and I use that when playing lead guitar or when I'm the only guitar player. But if I'm playing only rhythm or acoustic, and don't need the full power of the Helix, the Stomp XL is perfect.
Oh, and yes, you can change the direction of the Preset/Bank Up/Down footswitches: Global Settings --> Footswitches --> Swap Up/Down ON
I agree. And my XL fits nicely in my guitar case which is a nice benefit!
@@HeyWorshipLeader Read the last line of ptortlands post!
@@GertvanderDoes Yes ! So helpful!
You can easily transform the HX Stomp to a 5 - foot swiches unit, with a small extension pedal.
Coming from a tube amp and fx pedals I don't find the Pod Go limiting at all. It's actually more flexible than a "traditional" setup in some ways. And let's be honest, it's an easy trap to fall into fiddling with knobs more than you're actually practicing, so having limits isn't necessarily a bad thing. That said, I can mimic my "traditional" rig with 3 patches or less, and with a lot less of the tap dance routine required for switching things on and off. Also, the ability to plug in headphones, or straight to the PA and get consistent results every time. For me, I'd say it's advantages outweigh the limitations of the DSP. And if I do hit the wall and run out of fx, it's time to stop fiddling and start playing again, lol.
That's great...thanks for sharing
I like this, this is kinda I'm wanting out of it
New studio looks awesome!
Thanks man...it's coming along! I really love the space
Haha, haven’t heard “you won’t relent” in a while and Part of what you were playing Sounded like that song. Nice!
yeah...I haven't led that song in a long time but love playing that part
I'm afraid you forgot to mention that the XL has both MIDI IN and OUT ports, whereas the POD Go only has MIDI through USB. So, if MIDI is a priority, then the XL is the way to go.
oooo...That's a great point! Thanks for bringing that up...that is huge
Question, what exactly would midi in and out be used for?
@@thejack.bennettIf you’re playing with any pre-recorded tracks you can automatically trigger pedal changes. Also if your pedals have midi one pedal could trigger another one or change a parameter, for example
Great information,thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Just got my Stomp XL and I wish I had gotten the POD Go... because of the screen size! I play worship live quite a bit and I need to glance down and immediately recognize what's what.
That is a good point
Is there a noticable difference in performance between the Pod go and the Stomp XL?
Get one (or a set) of those plastic automotive trim removal tools to help with prying velcro'd pedals off of boards. Required when using DualLock.
For real! I need one
Been looking at both of these, I enjoyed your demo , straight forward with a li’l humor , I was leaning towards the Pod initially but The Stomps size and options have impressed me , $ 150 isn’t a big difference in my opinion , a lot cheaper than AXE FX , which I think is worth it if your a pro that tours and does session work which I am not,I mostly tour my house in my head , subscribed also 👍
Glad it helped and thanks for being here!
Did you get a line 6? I'm about to chase one of these two any advice welcome
@@-_AjB_- they’re both line 6… I’m guessing you mean the pod go..?
@@QuikdethDeviantart I know they are both line 6. I guess I meant "which did you choose and are you happy with your choice"
Thank you! As a bass player I love effects and actually get to use them in my original band lol, and seen Ian Martin using the stomp same with Janek, then got curious about the XL then seen the Go, and didn’t know what would be better, but you helped me make my decision, so the XL it is! Thanks!!
That’s awesome man. Glad to help
Im in love with the HX stomp XL it has everything i need and i use it way more than my axe fx, might even sell the axe xD
Oh really? I haven't played through an AXE FX
I would go with the POD GO. It's got the pedal which can be used as a WAH.
good call
@2:28 that's me every day...
So, I have both ... and did compare both the HX stomp and the POD against my Helix LT as I needed a travel rig. The HX stomp sounds definitely better, and in fact, the Helix LT and the HX Stomp XL sound the same, although some of my LT patches are not compatible with the HX stomp due to the number of blocks.
One factor I think you didn't mention was the patch portability between the Helix products, including HX native, which is a big plus for some.
So between the sound difference, which might be less noticeable in a band context, and the patch portability and flexibility, going with the HX Stomp was a no brainer for me. But both are really nice units, though, as most Line 6 products.
Nice video
Good advice
Quick question: Does the CIOKs power supply work on the Pod Go. I have built my pedalboard around the Go and wanted to use the CIOKS for the power supply but was told it may not be enough. Seems to be working with you.
It does!
whats the rig you take when you guys use for airline travel gigs? i have a LT that i bought recently and i'm wondering if should buya XL too.
XL is perfect because you have all the foot switches you need in such a small box. The original HX stomp with two foot switch pedal is great too
@@HeyWorshipLeader thank you!
Any issues with the Cioks? I have an Ojai which should be enough power (1A when doubled) but it's cutting it close for me.
The Cioks is a beast...never had issues with it
Can you please give an example of what your talking 6:00 - 6:10
ThePod go is the way to go as it’s quite easy to use and sounds great ! If your after a modeller to dive deep , get a fractal or Quad Cortex, plus having a foot controller is welcomed , the simplicity of the Pod Go allows you to set up great sounds quickly and make music
Hi there!
Where i live (Brazil) we have a huge difference in the price of these two products. Stomp XL costs almost 2x the price of the POD Go. In this scenario, which one would you buy?
POD Go definitely to use as all in one! I even use the XL as all in one all the time. Just miss the expression pedal sometimes. If I knew 1) I wanted it on a pedalboard with other pedals 2) really cared about a parallel split path, then I’d invest in the XL. Otherwise the POD Go.
The split path is really great for creating a wet / dry sounds. Like for bass players, who like to run an overdrive in parallel so the full signal goes through the top path and a distortion is applied in parallel. Sounds a lot better.
But MOST of the time those are not issues for me
In XL the arrows have a feature in global settings to invert the directions
Just found it...thanks!
@@HeyWorshipLeader that’s actually quite a new thing the ability to invert direction in presets. Back in the day this was totally impossible, and you had to resort to external midi controllers to get around this. Would make a really great video comparison the way the helix actually has changed over the years and integrated ideas for outside bits of gear.
The wait command in command center is a prime example.
Great videography in this episode Jimmy.
So OT but why does it look like the Go has stamp markings for LED fittings on the side of each button? Did they have a prototype with that and decide to cut costs in final production?
I've always wondered that as well
Hey, I’m not familiar with these units. Are the number of “blocks” the number of seller are effects you can save in one preset? Only 4 blocks might be a bit too limited for me but I’m not sure if I understand correctly what that means. Any help is appreciated!
The HX Stomp XL has 8 empty blocks that you can fill with whatever you want (as DSP allows). So in theory you could have 8 Overdrives! In the POD Go, 6 of the 10 blocks are already set for a particular type of effects (Amp, cab, fx loop, volume, wah, and EQ). That ;eave 4 empty blocks to add whatever you want. The set blocks can be changed to any effect you want within it's type...meaning you can choose whatever amp you want in the amp block...but you can't make it a reverb...hope that makes sense
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thank you, that definitely helped clarify!
Hey HWL, I’m looking at both of these and I found out about the hx stomp xl from a friend who got one and I loved it. Then I found out about the pod go and liked the price and the expression pedal, however I did not like the fact in how limited it is.
I’m looking for a pedal that just is completely versatile for everything. I’m on a worship team and love to play for fun also.
In your opinion which one can I be more versatile with?
hmmmm....do you want it to be an all-in-one only? Because the expression with the POD Go is really great. It's light weight....but doesn't really fit on a pedalboard very well if that's a goal. It is a little more limited technically as far as DSP, but you don't really notice because they took out any of the effects that take up a lot. ( I never use those anyways). The main pros of the XL is that its small enough to fit on a pedalboard AND it has the capability to do parallel routing. Meaning you can drag effects down on the B Path to create some other sounds. Run a wet / dry sound for example...or even run multiple instruments thru it at the same time. What do you think is most important for you?
I really want a all in one pedal bored. However I was also wondering does the pod go have 4 or 6 blocks? Like I saw your video on the pod go jail break, and then I heard a roomer that line 6 did a update for the pod go that allowed it to have 6 block’s instead of 4. I don’t know if it’s true however. Do you know anything about that update and whether it’s true?
Bottom line is your application. Everyone has a pedal story but I am concluding with convenience and applied limitations. The Helix Floor is a beast and can satisfy most players who like building guitar tones and the back panel is loaded with conveniences. However, it is Big, somewhat heavy like a packed pedal board. I love mine but got tired of hauling it back and forth to church. So I bought an HX Stomp XL, found a new Line 6 expression pedal cheaply and have found the XL to be the answer. I truly love the tones I'm getting and it is less complicated than my Helix Floor. My leads are crisp and dreamy and fills are working perfectly with my presets that can be tweaked when needed with HX Edit. Loving it.
Theres no midi in on a pod go vs XL ?
Did I miss you say that or did you skip it due to the target market?
That's a good point I didn't thin about bringing up..good call
Just saw the worship ldr thing…HELL NAW !!!!
Eh? 🤷🏼
Random question: can the POD Go function as a midi controller if I wanted to start/stop click tracks with it? I know the Helix has that capability, but didn’t know if the Go could?
I haven't done it but I know it can...I think you'd need to use midi over usb...I actually have the stuff to try it but gotta find the time soon!
@@HeyWorshipLeader awesome, thanks for the response! I picked up a POD GO recently and have been enjoying it! I typically lead from acoustic so it’s been a nice change!
Just bought a new Tele and HX Stomp XL. But I haven't bought a case yet. What case do you have for your guitar that makes that XL fit so beautifully?
That case is a Reverend case that came with my guitar. I haven’t tried it with my gator case yet, when I get back in town I’ll try it
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thank you for all you do!
I wish I could trade my regular stomp for an XL just for the jacks on the back
It really is nice sometimes.
Since I'm specifically looking for something that works with guitar, bass, and synths, I need the midi clocking. Looks like Stomp XL is the way. Thanks!
Yes!
I noticed a stereo image with the XL that the pod go didn't have. I'm curious about the DSP limitations... How many effects can you stack on the Pod Go? At least rev cho and delay?
Podgo has half the DSP as the HX/Helix pedals so you can’t use stereo effects or split signal flow to use two amps/IRs
The DSP is less, but they have removed the higher DSP effects in order for it not to overload. But all the effects are stereo if they come after the cab. There's no way to turn that off.
You're right about not being able to split to a parallel pat, but all the effects are stereo. There's no way to turn that off.
Super helpful. We use kemper amps at church, so I don’t need amps at church, but I don’t have an amp at home, so being able to run 8 effects at church and have amps for practicing at home would be great! Currently just running a regular stomp, it’s great but a little limiting with just 2 switches. Also I play bass and guitar.
nice!
i want some presets that are effects only, so HX Stomp XL
That makes sense!
I have the PODGO,, For me it works just fine. No regular amp! direct to a PA with a floor monitor / or in ear monitor.
Nice!
Hey, could you still run other analog pedals through a PodGo? Wondering if there is a way to expanded without getting rid of the PodGo
Yes! It has a stereo fx loop!
Awesome! Thanks!
Switched from a $4000 amp/pedal rig to a pod go in 2020… no one was able to tell a difference except me & my guitar tech which I no longer need lol
That's awesome!
Hey, can I set two outputs in the stomp ? one for DI and other to go through an amp?
Yes!!
@@HeyWorshipLeader awesome! Thankyou
Hey, I love you video but the HX Stomp XL seems to be selling for $749.00 Where did you see it for $650?
I see that...honestly I'm not sure when I recorded this if they were that cheap, or if I saw a used price on accident...sorry for the misinformation
Nice hint at “you won’t relent” at the 7:13 minute marker. Lol
hola bro. interesante video 😂 Me parece personalmente que la pod Go es la más comercial o atractiva para los chicos que se inician en este mundo. soy uno de esos
me gusta más la Pod Go que la HX ST
estoy ahorrando para comprarme la Pod Go y me dejó un poco pensativo, el hecho de hacer los ambientes con la HX es mejor que con la Pod Go 🥴
me asusta hacer una mala compra
Saludos desde Venezuela 🤗 ✌🏻😁
I agree with you, and like I said in the video...I don't think you can go wrong... they are both great. If having everything being in one place (all-in-one) POD Go has built in expression. You'd have to add that to the XL. But the XL is more versatile. Having said that...I find myself using both quite often and enjoying both
I have a tip for you on this one. Buy a Line6 Catalyst amp - it already had built in Helix amp, reverb, and delay simulations (or pitch effects) and channel switching, which you can use for an alternative config. Then, you can run a Pod Go into it for effects (just turn off the amp/cab simulation). So all your OD/distortion pedals. This is a pretty versatile setup.
I have been wanting to try the Catalyst. Maybe soon
Has it got an xlr out and ability to turn off/unplug speaker?
@@1redgate8 Yes and yes
Didnt the xl get oversampling update and the pod go did not??
I don't; remember
Do I need one of these for bass?
Idk if you “need” it. Both sound good for bass but know that if you get the Stomp, it has a stereo parallel path. Meaning you can drop things down on a B path which a lot of people like to do their overdrives for bass. That way you get the overdrive tone on top of the bass tone, but the a path still retains the full bass tone. So you’ll know what I’m talking about if you’ve ever played bass, and then put on a tube screamer in series, you get a nice over driven sound, but it cuts a lot of the low end out being able to bring things down on another path solve that issue.
I really want a all in one pedal bored. However 1 was also wondering does the pod go have 4 or 6 blocks? Like I saw your video on the pod go jail break, and then I heard a roomer that line 6 did a update for the pod go that allowed it to have 6 block's instead of 4. I don't know if it's true however. Do you know anything about that update and whether it's true?
POD Go only has 4 blocks that are unassigned....the other blocks are pre-assigned to a certain effects,...but you can change the model of that effect. for example...one is pre-assigned to an EQ block...you can choose which ever EQ block you want....just can't change it to a reverb. The JailBreak preset allows you to remove some of those pre-assigned blocks
The hx doesn't do amps tho ,,,right ???
All the HX models do amp and cab modeling except the HX Effects!
So I have owned both the regular HX Stomp and now the PodGo, and there is a significant difference with the guitar input. The Helix models and HX Stomp models all have a guitar input impedance circuit on the input jack, whereas the PodGo does not have the circuit. There is a difference in tone and feel that I can tell. To me, the PodGo seems less crisp when running clean tones.
Furthermore, the PodGo can only sample IRs at 100ms, whereas the Stomp can sample them at 200ms. That can make a slight or significant difference depending on the player or IR used. All in all, they are both fantastic products IMO
Can you explain how to use the IRS? What I mean is how do you use them? Can I set up a patch with an IR and run it into my head/cab? Thanks!
@@prometherion3089 I mainly use the IR functionality in the PodGo for acoustic impulse responses to give my acoustic guitar better plugged in tone (more mic like), but also as a replacement for the built in electric cabs in the PodGo. I simply like the IR cabs I have much better.
And while I don’t fully understand your question, if you have a physical amp head that is crucial for your tone, and you don’t want to carry around your speaker cabinet, you can run the amp head in the effects loop of the HX Stomp or PodGo and then use an IR cabinet of your choice for digital cab emulations. I personally have not done this, so I cannot comment on how well this works, but I’m sure people do this.
@bluetinmusic you've inspired me to just do a tone test video...all settings EXACTLY the same and record a loop, and see if there is a difference!
@Prometherion Soto clarify, in IR or Impulse Response is a 'capture' of a mic'd up cab. It replaces the cab. You can put an IR after an amp model, or just as @bluetinmusic said, you can run the amp head (only) section through the FX loop of your HX/POD Go and use an IR as the 'digital' cab...This would allow you to use your person real-life amp and still go direct to FOH.
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thank You! I think I get it now. So basically you cant use the IR's with a whole head/cab setup. you would have to run it into something else.
Normally the HX Stomp XL is $750. The $650 is a current sale price. Have the Pod Go. If the HX Stomp XL was $650 when I bought the Pod Go, would've gone with the the stomp. Seems more versitile. I'm really missing the MIDI ports.
Yeah....midi is a big deal that I forgot to mention
Where is/was the XL on sale for $650??
Anyone else notice a noise on the right side of the XL samples?
Yes...I noticed as well...it happened when I switched to my single coil pickup. I know they are more noisy, but I haven't had time to figure out how to fix it...I feel like it's a power thing in my studio...which is not finalized yet...still moving things around...all that to say, it's not the XL.
@@HeyWorshipLeader if it’s the single coil pups, why is it way louder on the right than the left?
Alot of extra noise with the xl. Pod go very clean. Just not stereo to my ears.
I actually thought the Stomp XL sounded better. Is that possible?
Not sure how that could be. Both use the same HX core engine/algorithms. It's the same amps/cabs/effects minus a few DSP intensive ones in the Pod Go (as Jimmy mentioned). Blind A-B would be the way to know for sure.
Sounds like the POD GO was recorded in mono whereas the Stomp XL was recorded in stereo. Hence why the XL sounds better.
I assume the POD GO would've sounded way closer to the Stomp XL if it was recorded in stereo.
Yes I believe there’s a difference. I commented about the Helix and HX Stomp models all having a guitar impedance circuit on the input jack, but the PodGo does not have this. In my experience, there is a slight difference in the quality of the tone and feel
Ok! Everyone, I decided to make a video and put all 4 units head to head with the EXACT settings and make sure they are all stereo! I must have moved the cab behind the delay's and forgot about it because that was definitely recorded in mono. My apologies. I'll make sure all Global EQ's are off, and that every preset is set up with the lowest common denominator...I this case the POD Go. And we'll if there are any differences...I'll even loop my playing for each recording! ok...time to record!
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@@HeyWorshipLeader Will it Affect my presets?
And the pod go freezes up, often
The XL sounds better to me. There is more grit presuming you played the patches in order in both demos.
Hx stomp xl right now is 1000 cad before tax. Once saw a helix lt for 1200 cad used… should have gone for the deal then.
oh man
Dsp?
the Xl technically has more DSP, but they took out the heavier effects from the POD Go so there isn't really an issue as far as how many you can use.
Why don’t they just add a volume pedal on the XL and call it a day???
hahaha good thought
Sorry I don't understand 😭
7:17 That's weird. I've never noticed those little hexagon stamps on any pod go.
Great comparison video by the way.
Thanks! Yeah, I know...I don't really like the way they look either
7 months later - HX Stomp XL is $100 more at $750 - what the heck!!!
I know....I saw that..honestly, I'm not sure if I just saw a sale when I recorded this or what....but that def makes it an easier decision of price is the main issue.
Expand one with the other.
True! Both is always the best answer! haha