How To Use An EXPRESSION Pedal With The HX Stomp
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0:00 Explanation and GIVEAWAY Winner!
3:10 Dunlop X Mini Volume and Expression Pedal
4:53 How to Invert the tip and ring in the Dunlop X Mini
5:56 How to hook it all up
6:52 Expression Settings in the HX Stomp
7:26 Can you run volume and expression at the same time?
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17:12 Expression with Command Center!
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Love the dedication to great tone and complex rigs in this community. The praise and worship scene is truly innovative.
Remember, you can split out your exp/ fs jack with a Y cable like you did with your fx out so you can have 2 exp pedals or 1 pedal + 1 footswitch or 2 footswitches
Yes! That's right...I should've mentioned that. Thanks!
So you mean, with one expression pedal using Y cable you can control 2 different effects ?
@@shinomorello No.. I you can control 2 (or many more) effects with one pedal. He's saying with the proper wiring you can have two expression pedals, one for expression and one for volume or two separate dedicated expressions or a mix of both or switches and volume... many options. I'm doing the same thing and I've got to figure out what I want to do.
Yeah but I need at least three
hold up, so I almost have this figured out....... but i see in the HX edit that the volume and wah "position" are on two separate assignments (one is on expression pedal 1 and the other is on expression pedal 2), but you're using the same pedal to do both.
So, am I understanding/assuming/following correctly that, in this setup, the expression pedal in use is connected to both Pedal 1 and Pedal 2 on the back of the HX Effects unit via a "Y" cable? And THAT's why I can't seem to get them both to work like you have in yours, because I only have the one expression pedal, plugged into only the Pedal 1 jack, and the "position" assignments for both wah and volume set to expression pedal 1?
This may be the most useful and extensive demo on how to get the most out of an Expression Pedal with an HX Stomp. Great job! Thanks 👍😎
Thanks so much 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I've just got my dunlop dvp4 yesterday to use it with my hx stomp! Awesome timing! Thanks for the video!
That's great man!!
Hey Jimmy, i know this is an old video but i wanted to say it just printed incredibly helpful for me. I was stuck and couldn't figure out why my expression pedal sweep was going all the way up and then back down. That ring/tip switch inside the pedal was exactly what i needed!
Glad it helped!
Enjoy your pilot controller! Congrats!
This answer my question about the volume max min and max again in dunlop dvp4..thank you very much dude..helps a lot!!
Glad to hear it!
Great tutorial dude :)
I've got a HX Stomp and I was looking at the Dunlop Volume X mini as a go to expression pedal.
I was looking to make a very light pedalboard using the Pedaltrain PT-Nano-SC.
Wasn't sure on the wiring and how to set it up, so this video just saved me hours!
That's awesome man!
Congrats to the winner 🙌🏻🥳 Nice video Jimmy. Keep up the good work. Have a nice day. 👌🏻✨
Thanks so much
In traditional rigs, the source audio EQ2 would do the 1 expression pedal with 2 functions thing. The switching happens in the EQ2.
Great video man.
Congrats to Jesse, you’re gonna love the little Robbie pilot! Rob Perkins is awesome. I would gladly recommend this as a starter midi controller.
Agreed!
Watched your post on adding extra foot switches. But adding an expression pedal is on this list. But then I need to either buy another Helix or drop the extra foot switches. Decisions. Decisions. 😂
I know man. Struggle is real. Haha
Thanks for the info on the dunlop pedal. Looks like previous owner had it in Tuner / Tip. Got it working on my Stomp now!
I can't tell you how helpful this video is!!! The Dunlop pedal hardware switch change was what I was looking for! Thank you for the Short video that pointed me to this video!! Appreciate you!
That’s awesome, Glad it helped!
+1 - I'm a new HX Stomp XL user and had been hunting around for options for an expression pedal. I'd seen this Dunlop pedal mentioned (on Reddit, I think) but the overview and level of detail in this video convinced me to make a purchase. I didn't realize the depths you could go with it; amazing! Really appreciate it, @HeyWorshipLeader!
The high-end loopers will do it now, at least they have settings for it! The Morningstar ML-10x has crazy great options for certain pedals to be trails -on!
Found this channel yesterday! Absolutely love the content.
Wow! Thanks man!
this is neat! I plan to get the Mission Control helix pedal though so this is much easier to achieve with that and its integrated switch!
Yes! That pedal is a beast!
Nice video!
My expression pedal is only expression (m-audio). I installed a toe switch in it, and now I can switch between wah and volume (or whatever) just be pressing down on the toe switch, which I find more convenient than hitting a button on the Stomp. It does consume both "devices" that are available through the aux jack, but it also leaves all 3 footswitches on the Stomp available for other uses.
Also, you noted that you can save a block by manipulating the channel volume of your amp. Another block saving alternative would be to manipulate the volume parameter in the Output block. Since this one is at the end of the chain, it truly has no impact on your tone, where using channel volume might impact any effects that come later in the signal chain.
Yes! You basically made that Line 6 Mission engineering pedal...that's awesome! Very convenient.
That's true...and probably less confusing! Thanks for sharing!
FYI, I just received my Dunlop 1x Dunlop DVP5 Volume (X) 8 Pedal, immediately opened it to flip the dip switch. It ain't has one! But live is good as it fully works out of the box with the Stomp XL. No settings changes required. Combining Wah and Volume? No problem!
I do feel more and more restricted now with the measly 8 blocks, haha!
haha...I get that
Awesome video - saves me space on my pedalboard.!
BOSS ES-5 has trails options, input for one expression pedal which can be assigned to each loop as needed, or access to their Internal virtual expression pedal for swells or as a tremolo, assign it to an existing switch or to one of the 2 additional external foot-switch inputs… if you have a rig where you really like your pedals it’s a great option. I sold mine and just use an Hx Stomp due to its form factor.
That's awesome
@@HeyWorshipLeader ES8 does the same thing. it's the bigger brother version of the ES-5.
You really helped me. Thank you! God bless you!
oh that's great to hear~!
Thanks bro. This video help me a lot!!!
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
Very helpful. Thanks!
Great video! I learned a lot. Thank you man
That's great! Glad to help!
I just purchased a Jet MCX MIDI pedal and this same volume pedal and will be running a similar board setup.
Question though. In another video about the MCX, I saw you mention that you can assign preset bank up and down on the JET MCX by going through FS4 & FS5 on the Stomp. Can I do that AND assign/run the Dunlop volume/expression through the expression input in the back of the Stomp? Just trying to figure out how to best setup the Jet MIDI and the volume/expression at the same time.
Thanks and love the content!
Congrats Jesse! Happy Holidays future Jimmy and past Jimmy and all, ha ha.
Haha! I tried. Happy New Year!!!
@@HeyWorshipLeader where'd you get the midi cable from? I found a jet micro, and would like to get a cable like you use. Thanks
@@gear_vintage Here's all my cables! www.heyworshipleader.com/affiliate-shop
@@HeyWorshipLeader thank you so much. Hope that you have a great 2021!
Man, the addition of Command Center makes a basic expression pedal SUPER handy. Thanks!
For real! Thanks for watching!
Great video! Do the same principles apply to the hx effects? I’m interested in using an expression pedal for volume and wah
Yes it does!
maybe a little late to this video but Hotone has pedals to do this, vowpress is volume/wah in the same unit, they have another pedal soul press which is volume/expression
Yes! It's very cool
Ok I love this! This is exactly what I have been wanting to do... Now small question.... Can I control the x mini and a single switch with a y cable? Considering I only need 1 exp for wah.. that should leave exp2 to be used for another stomp or some other parameter.. Esp when I incorporate a lol Robbie for my tap tuner/ snapshots.
Any info would he awesome...
Yes! I cover it in this video: czcams.com/video/eafyR_tTdaM/video.html
Ciao, ottimo video!! Ma quindi per impostarlo correttamente come pedale espressione , con polarità normal e coi parametri che vanno da 0 a 100 , i due swich vanno posizionati verso destra come si vede nel video?
Ive been watching your videos and they are amazing for a HX Stomp new owner like me !! I have a question, I have a Ernie Ball VP Junior volume pedal, can I use it like your Dunlop pedal in this video ? Thanks a lot and cheers from South América !!
Glad you're here...the VP Jr doesn't have expression out, so no
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thanks for your answer !
Hi. Thank you for your videos. They are great and well explained.
I wonder what pedalboard you are using and how do you power this setup.
Thank you once again.
Thanks man! I have the mono lite plus and power with the Cioks DC7
@@HeyWorshipLeader 💙💪
I have a problem with the "sweep spot" when using wah-Blocks.. So the whole sweep 0-100 happens between the heel and toe position in about 10% of the whole way. Volume Blocks etc function just perfect: 0 heel position to 100 toe position. Does anyone know what to do to fix this issue with the wah blocks??
Brilliant video by the way helped me a lot, thank you!
glad it was helpful...idk about the problem except you can set your beginning and end points...I'd just make sure something isn't set wrong
Did you ever manage to fix this? I have the exact same problem
Nice video, bro! thaks for your job! I have quastion about latency. Can you feel difference between using volume pedal by regular analog way and as volume block at hx stomp?
that's a great question...I have not noticed. The sweep took a little getting used...plus I went from a larger Ernie Ball VPJR, down to the smaller Dunlop...so some of the difference was probably in the pedal itself.
@@HeyWorshipLeader thanks for your answer!! Looking forward to try it)))
Great video! only thing i don't understand is the last part, I mean: you set different parameters for EXP1 and EXP2, does it mean that if only 1 expression pedal is connected with a TRS it's seen by the HX Stomp as 2 expression pedal with the exact same setting? (so also in the presets i can use exp1 or exp2 in the same way as they're the same actual pedal?) Otherwise I don't get the "exp1" and "exp2" labels in the Command Center, and moreover I don't get how could work 2 expression pedals connected with an Y cable :D
Yes! The HX Stomp sees it as 2 expression pedals...you just can't do both at the same time....meaning if you set one to be volume, you'll lose whatever the second feature is when the heel is down. If you use a spilt cable with 2 exp pedals, you just send commands to each pedal independently
Great video about how to connect AN expression pedal to hx stomp, I would love to see one on how to connect TWO expression pedal to HX stomp, I can t figure it out. Do they have to be the SAME make and model ( Its just a pot so I cant see why that would be) ?
I am new to the Helix world - I am trying to create a tiny fly rig out of a stopm xl and two expression pedals that will replace a heavy pedal board in certain settings.
I need to be able to have two expression pedals - one for volume swells and the other to control various other parameters on the fly with my feet.
How do you connect two different expression pedals and get them too work ( or will this only work of they are the same?)
I have an M-audio expression pedal
I have an Line 6 ex1
I have an Ernie ball volume pedal jr
If I connect any one of these to the expression jack and assign them to expression pedal 2 any one of them works.
If I connect any two of these to the expression jack with a stereo TRS y cable - they either dont work anymore or one of them works but not as expected.
I tried playing around in global settings with the inversion of the tip or sleeve.
What am I missing?
(Thanks for making theses tutorials, can be a huge time saver for new users)
This explains why it was making horrible noise when I tried to use it as an expression
Yeah
Hi, Jimi can I use like a normal volume pedal after my overdrive with the two outputs moved on in my stomp, and at the same time use it with the connection of the third central output connect it to the stomp and deactivate the volume function to use it only as an expression pedal without removing cables?
I'm not sure I understand...send a photo of what you are trying to jimmy@heyworshipleader.com and I can try to help
I was actually wondering how to use the DVP4 as volume with analog pedals and as expression with digital. Do you know what is necessary? Thanks!
so is the effect coming from another pedal, and then through the expression pedal? or is it all coming thru the expression pedal alone?
Спасибо!
Glad to help!
In minute 5.00 you mention that you had problem with inconsistent expression pedal value between full heels and full toe, from 0 to 100 back to 0 again. I face same problem here. I already set the dip switch as yours but it keep happens. I use eventide H9 btw, with TS cable. Appreciate if you can suggest something on this, thank you
using a TRS cable fixed it for me
Do you recommend the Dunlop Volume X mini?
Will Dvp5 work as well? I prefer the size of Dvp5 but seems like the Dvp5 don't have the tip and ring invert function
yeah...it has expression out
Hello and thank you for video. I noticed that your expression pedal is controlling both EXP1 and EXP2. I have the same problem here. I thought something is wrong with HX Stomp setup. Basically one expression pedal should only control one of EXPs? Am I right? In your preset, expression pedal controls both volume and wah! Is there a way to disable one of the expressions in HX Stomp? Thanks.
I was using a TRS cable and had Tip to EXP 1 and Ring to EXP 2. You can set them to whatever you want in the global settings. 6:52 in the video is where I walk through how I have it.
Don’t you think that sonicake it’s a better option in this case. So you save more slots for other effects etc!?
the cool thing is, you can put anything you love in the FX loop and save blocks
I have a Y cable with trs and dual ts.
Is it okay to plug just one ts cable into the aux?
It'll be missing the tip or ring...so it might not work properly on some effects
I’m interested in the hx stomp to upgrade my worship rig but have a question if anyone could answer. Would I be able to use a mini 3 button foot switch to have 6 total buttons with the 3 on the stomp plus use my volume pedal plus some drive pedals and a mini midi control foot switch and then go direct out?
Question: which mini midi controller would you be using...because you could def cut out the 3 button foot switch. But to answer you're question...no. You can have a 2 button foot switch using FS4 and FS5, and run your volume pedal before or after your drives (not in the Stomp at all, or in the fx loop if you needed that for some reason) and then your midi controller via the midi in (and thru if you'll be sending midi signals out)
@@HeyWorshipLeader I’ve watched a ton of videos mainly yours and I think the jet micro the pre mapped one looks like the ticket for me! I’ve never done anything midi so this will be a new experience
What length is the tts cable that you use to connect the expression pedal?
Might is about 24"
is it possible to determine min and max values for parameters on the line6 hx one to control with an expression pedal? just like you control the bar underneath the knobs on the eventide h9
Yes...And I just got another HX One of my own...and I want to do some tutorials...so let me know anything else you'd like to see as well!
@@HeyWorshipLeader thats the most important thing that i want to know/learn how to do, another thing is just a personal taste id like to see how i can get metallic sounds with the delay, ping pong delay and reverb, everything on stereo, id like to use this pedal as an fx unit on a dj set on send/return
I'm having a weird issue where the pedal works, but it doesn't register until halfway to heel down, then 0-100% occurs between that halfway point and all the way heel down. Any suggestions?
TRS Cable had the issue of being 0-100 by only moving the pedal half its total distance. When I used a TS Cable it worked fine: 0-100 hell to toe. I just had to invert the polarity of the tip. This was done by going to Global Settings > Preferences > Page 2 > Tip Polarity = Inverted. I did initially open the pedal and change the dip switch to Expression/Ring as indicated in this video.
Hola amigo este pedal sirva para un teclado musical? Muchas gracias
It’s not a sustain pedal, but you could assign it to control sustain in a program like Main Stage
I just got a different brand of Expression pedal and man HX stomp is picky. I found using TRS with it, it had half the throw be EXP1 and the other half EXP2. The only way for me to fix this was to use a regular patch cable and ensure the expression out is ONLY set for exp1 and 2, no FS or preset or it triggers them endlessly. I am actually pretty upset as they declare its supported yet it really isnt.
I knew I should have just invested in a mission pedal cause this is so much of a headache to get to work correctly. bah.
well since resolved my issue! Line 6 isn't really specific in that you should connect a pedal with TS ideally unless it is specifically supported. My pedal CLAIMS to use TRS or it wont work but that is false, I am able to get it to work 100% on a single regular patch cable and that is great cause that means I can use a splitter and have an extra dedicated switch no problem. Glad I was able to work out the kinks cause this is the smallest all metal expression I could get other then the DOD one.
glad you got it worked out man...I know it was frustrating for me at first too!
Can we use the expression pedal with the JET micro midi?
They will work together at the same time...however the expression pedal is not midi controlled
I need some hx stomp routing help. How can I reach out to you?
Sorry...just now getting to this. email me jimmy@heyworshipleader.com
Great video -- thank you. The background music is a distraction :)
Thanks! and noted
when push my exp pedal all the way up the volume goes from 0 to 100 and back to zero when I get all the way up. can someone help me ? I just want to make my expression pedal a regular volume pedal
That’s one of the main thing this video solves. Did you see it around the 4:30 minute mark. There are even time stamps to help
@@HeyWorshipLeaderthanks!!
I have a straight up Ernie Ball VP Jr. I don’t feel any of this translates. Help!!!
I have a problem with my pedal hitting 100 at about midway point. Any tips for that?
Thanks!
Yes...mine was doing that too at first...if you have this same pedal, take off the back panel and make sure the bottom toggle switch is on "ring" not "Tip"
@@HeyWorshipLeader that did it, thank you!
@@Joe-vc2cc Sweet!
Is anyone having issues with running a volume into the effects loop?
My volume goes from almost zero
anywhere in heel to almost toe.
Then there’s a sudden and loud rise in volume when I’m all the way to toe.
Sounds like you need to invert the polarity. Which vp do you have?
@@HeyWorshipLeader thank you so much for replying! I have the Dunlop mini (DVP4)
Pretty cool 😎,i think it’s going to help ,see I’m in a tight spot,my main goto amp is taking a dump ,well the tubes are i think god I hope otherwise that means something really bad has happened,anyways,it’s a line6 spider valve hk 2 hd 100 ,it’s kinda old but compared to a lot of !,! No Make it compared to everything else line6 has made in the last 20 years it completely blows the doors off and it makes me wonder O why o why did you guys stop making this it’s a 100 watt tube head with all the modulation built in,Plus my FBV foot controller station and yes it’s really a station has more control buttons on it than i could ever imagine using every single one, So what im getting at besides that and my 4x12 and the hx stomp I had way more modulation than I would ever need but now with my backup,A peavey valve king royal 8 that absolutely none of the connections ins and outs my line6 does I have totally rearranged everything from the ground up,and I use a vol, whammy,and pitch shifter ,was going to sacrifice the vol but after watching your video I may give that a shot ,I just know ,well I’m pretty positive the FBV floor control is not going to work,the cord that hooks up to that looks exactly like the one going into your Wi-Fi router,I will look into it but I’m pretty certain no way , anyways if you got any ideas on how I could lighten my load with the stomp it would be greatly helpful, thanks,great vid btw
I bet that FBV hook up is a printer USB connection and will work with the HX stomp. The Stomp is a great solution for sure
hola sabes configurar el Fender TREAD-LIGHT™ VOLUME/EXPRESSION para la Hx Stomp?
I've never used one, but I would just plug it in and see what it does. If it has issues like in the video find out how to switch the polarity
@@HeyWorshipLeader gracias por tu respuesta. Saludos desde Argentina!!
what reverb / shimmer pedal is that at 10:00?
That is a Shimmer algorithm on my favorite Reverb ever… The @jetpedals Revelation version two
@@HeyWorshipLeader I love it, have you been able to get close to that in the helix? if soI would love to get that patch
@@HeyWorshipLeader have you been able to get close to it with the helix ? It is so smooth it is similar to the shimmer on mar reverb, but better.!
See the new Blackstar live logic midi controller.
will do
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