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Chris. If you love group c. Make a video about rfactors best mod ever: gtpc vlm junior team mod. I was a beta tester for the team and i must say. The physics are just great and the amount of cars. Hard work with this team. I really cant stand that this mod never had the attention of youtubers. It's really good.
Not all of us want to spend hours either working out the best setups for any given car/track combination or trawling forums for advice on setups - we just want to get in the car and trust that we automatically have a competitive vehicle.
So I would like an in-game engineer as standard, that provides strong setups for each car/circuit perhaps with a few selectable options - i.e. you could choose between high grip or high speed or something inbetween with a single click.
As technology improves over time, I would ultimately love to see a personal engineer who would be able to analyse your driving and advise you on the best setup in your specific case.
Those are great ideas! I have not even dipped my little toe into setups. Like you said, I just want to drive. I have noticed that a lot of the current professional demo sim races are using fixed setups, to equalize things. The result is great racing!
With the telemetry data the sims can output, I don't think this is too far fetched at all. The sim has enough data to know when the car is under or oversteering, if it is too low, if the aerodynamics stall, if the daming is sufficient etc. So, really there should be a race engineer function based off of this data. It wouldn't be foolproof, but it would help a lot!
There is AI in IRL racing that do that already, like strategy calls. Shouldn't be to hard to make a simpler one in sim racing. Also an AI engineer for the setup would be nice.
Great idea. I would include better telemetry whilst in the pits. An option to overlay different laps you've done against each other to help get up-to speed quicker. This should also include being able to overlay your team mates data. This would help ppl learn how to set a car up (with in depth descriptions of each setting/part & it's effect on the handling).
That's a big one for me. I've only been into sim racing a couple years now, and PC2 was my first specifically because of the engineer it has. I don't have an engineer mind. I'm not interested in it, so holding on to the information to learn and properly set up a car doesn't stick with me (in one ear and out the other). I just want to get in the car and drive, MAYBE tweak a few things for personal preference. I don't want to be given a car that is completely noncompetitive out of the gate and then force me to spend hours, or even days, tinkering with it just to do a race. I like how it's done in PC2. "Hey, the car does so-and-so when I try to so-and-so", and the sim walks you through tweaking it without forcing you to actually learn everything.
In iRacing I basically only do fixed races because I really don't want to deal with the slog of trying to set up a car myself. It just isn't something I'm interested in.
I just want lobbies that you can race with humans and AI. Project cars is the only one that gets it right. Me and one friend can race anything against AI in that game. It should be standard
For sure. Honestly, I don't know why co-op gaming has taken a back seat, it's not just a sim racing thing, it's across the whole gaming industry from what I can see.
This is why when I race with my dad or cousin we use PC2. Would love to be able to do the same thing in assetto corsa .
@@setra23 it´s also possible on PC with rFactor2, you can fill up servers with AI etc.
A few years ago F1 had an online mode for Co-Op championship. (they may still have it..i'm not sure) It was fabulous fun to go through a season with a mate.
@@FifaInspected I think they pulled a Madden on that one and took it out
I am just 2 years into serious sim racing. And from what I have learned by now, it is the damage model, the gravel and varying technical reliability that need to be adressed. For me personally it is not too much about being competitive but about immersion. Every sim has its own unique feel and in some way I love them all. But being likely to get a puncture for driving through debris or having some minor damage, that causes more damage over time would be cool. It should be optional though.
Yeah, very much agree. The puncture thing is a really good point to highlight too.
@@ChrisHaye Puncture is a thing in ACC tho, if you have too low PSI and drive consistenly on kerbs and gravels/grass, you will have a puncture (i did experience)
Firstly, you mentioned Jim Clark. It just so happens that my grandfather’s name is Jim Clark. The biggest difference between them is that my grandfather didn’t die in a car crash because of a deflating tire. Secondly, I 100% agree with you on having more group C content.
Heh, common name, uncommon talent!
the thing that's missing from my sim experience is the talent that I never had
I'd buy that DLC!
I am always 5-6 seconds slower than people here on CZcams and I believe that it’s because I use default setups and because I made the big mistake of starting to play Assetto Corsa with assists on and getting used to them.
I've been playing sims since GP4 and I'm still terrible! My setup knowledge doesn't go much further than fuel, tyres, wings and final gear ratios 😂
I would love more crowd emersion. When playing sim racing games the crowd is usually just some standing still 2d people without making any noise. I want to hear them cheer when doing overtakes and at the start and maybe even add some movement to the crowd. The only racing game doing this right now is F1 2019 I believe. It would be great to have it implemented in more sims as it ads to the excitement.
This might be a bit weird, but I would like to see a story mode implemented into various sim racing games. I personally feel like that would be sick.
Yeah, I'd buy that! That's one of the other things that Codemasters does really well.
That sounds cool.
Yes I would love something like that in career mode
Challenges the way a Gran Turismo or Driveclub has them... that feel like they're an integral part of the game (unlike in AC, where they feel very unpolished in terms of difficulty, most of them from the times of tire model 3 and 5, when we are now at tm10). Getting something in return for mastering those challenges would be nice too.
[And yes, of course a career story mode a la Madden or NBA 2k would be awesome (CM's F1 games are interactive and somewhat non-linear, but they don't tell a compelling and touching story), but outside of Polyphony, Turn 10 and maybe Codemasters, nobody has the experience and resources for that I think, so it's just asked too much]
Something like fspassengers for flightsim should come for simracing
Good news on the gravel, Chris. AMS2’s gravel is (to continue your Ring metaphor) very much Samara inspired. In fact, you can get completely stuck. Give Donington a run and see what happens when the Formula Classic takes a detour
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. Maybe I need to go a bit further off line on my next run :)
Chris Haye it’s because you’re a good sim racer, Chris, and you keep the car between the lines. Leave it to me to inform people about what happens off track 😂😂
@@SimRacing604 yur both good sim racers, and UTubers to boot! Thanks to fellas such as yourselves, I can enjoy my "sport" even if I'm old like your dads. Just so you know, I'm getting a 3DOF cockpit when I retire, again.
100% on board with you on mechanical damage, Chris. We haven't seen it implemented very well since the Grand Prix series of games. I want that possiblity of losing a drive shaft, breaking the gearbox, or a random engine failure. It just adds to the experience in my opinion.
As always, Geoff Crammond had it right decades ago!
Chris, thank you so much for the video response! You’ve got some interesting takes, I forgot about the licensing issues with damage and wear and tear models. Also, couldn’t agree more with the flags and rule sets.
Here’s a bonus one, better AI that won’t rear end you or get stuck on slow corners.
I'd kill for the latter Jean. It's even worse in sims where the AI are allowed to cheat. Getting punted mid-corner by an AI with superhuman grip isn't my idea of fun!
Separate wing mirror video output signal (so it can displayed on a small screen housed in a physical wing mirror housing) please ! #1stworldproblems ;)
Oh god yes! I'll set up the kickstarter page right now!
@@ChrisHaye I would fund the s**t out of that page. Must be doable ?
#runoutofthingstomakemysimrigmorerealistic
Absolutely agree! I thought about it few months ago and googled to see if was already done somehow. Surely it shall start from developer to give access to thEse “data”. Ideally using old phones as mirrors screens.
@@marchinop7278 Yep games need to supply the wing mirror video feeds (multiple outputs from capable video cards ?) Everything else is just hardware to suit. Lots of options for suitable screen depending on budget :)
I'd quite like if there was more attention into electric stuff
With the increase of hybrids (F1, LMP1H, and Indy and I believe DTM coming soon) and the growing number of electric cars, there should be more attention put into electrical systems etc
Can't agree more with you on all points. I was racing on R3E the other day, 2016 DTM at zandvoort, and experienced my best (and worst) experience in a gravel trap. Had an off and was literally stuck, trying to clutch kick the car in order to gain traction. I think R3E gets gravel physics fairly well and other sims should look at R3E for ideas on that very specific topic.
And as for damage, this is where the modding community could hit an absolute homerun if they can figure out how to implement it. The modding community seems to be untouchable when it comes to licensing agreements, so one can only hope that they take that advantage and develop better damage models, both visually and mechanically.
Hah, yeah for sure - the modding community don't have to worry about manufacturers brand image :)
Well if we're being weird with our wishlists, then let me give it a shot.
- Some high-IQ people have already mentioned this, but a story mode would be nice. For me I wouldn't so much ask for a story mode as for a massively fleshed out career mode. Something like you get in Project Cars, where you start in karts and make your way to the top.
- Another not very interesting idea, but a guy in a simracing stream chat mentioned to me how friggin easy it is to get ahold of the licenses for obscure circuits. Said tracks, like Grobnik in Croatia, Monticello Motor Club in the US, and shockingly enough, Potrero de Los Funes in Argentina, would most likely LOVE to get the extra exposure from having their tracks in games. This also gives us simracers the benefit of broadening our horizons and introduce us to tracks we never knew existed. Lydden Hill shouldn't just be in PCars 2, and GT Sport ought not to have a monopoly on Autopolis.
- Multiclass. Not enough sims have this. Scratch that, not enough racing games IN GENERAL have this. And not only that, let us have total autonomy over our multiclass shenanigans please. If I wanna race IndyCars against stock cars I don't wanna have to boot up Project Cars 2 all the time.
- Another thing PC2 does that most others don't - give us the option to set the weather to 'ridiculous'. Currently there is only one game out there that allows for the accurate recreation of the 2016 Nurburgring 24 Hours. Lets change that.
- I feel like this is pretty obvious, and someone is bound to have mentioned this before, but a robust livery editor would be nice. Yeah, you run the risk of someone putting all the wrong things onto a race car but cmon. When I saw the state of the editor in ACC I pitied its players. And while, again, people can do bad stuff with a robust livery editor, some truly incredible stuff can be created as well.
- Been scrolling thru the comments and a guy just mentioned a severe lack of competitive drifting. And it got me thinking......what other whole entire motorsports need more representation in sim-land? Ovals get next to no attention outside of iRacing, and dirt ovals quite literally so. And then it came upon me.......Does drag racing legit not have any representation in sims? I've checked, and there is none. This is a cardinal sin. Someone, somewhere, needs to make a drag racing simulator. Immediately.
- On the topic of motorsport categories, look up Group C.......touring cars. Souped up RX7s, Ford Falcons, Nissan Pulsars with the boost cranked beyond insanity. Yes please.
- Something silly on the subject of a damage model......what if, in the realm of random mechanical faults, your TEAM made an error of catastrophic proportions? Like, say, not properly attaching a wheel? It would be equal parts infuriating and hilarious if some unlucky bastard in my custom race exited the pits with 3 wheels on his wagon. Speaking of memories......
- Just in case, cause IDK if all sims have this, but a photo mode would be nice.
- I have no idea whether this is a good idea or not, but fictional tracks. If it seems like I'm pulling a lot of these ideas from Gran Turismo, I might be, but PCars 2 had the amazing Bannochbrae road circuit and two point-to-points. Wait a minute......
- Point-to-points can't hurt at all, can they? Would love to see it. Speaking of stuff PCars 2 got very right.....
- Historic circuits. They will be hard to model as some just straight up dont exist anymore, but if possible, I'd love to see old Le Mans, old Spa, the ancient South Loop from the Nurburgring (not the GP course), and anything else game devs can think of.
- One more track suggestion - The Isle of Man. Bit of a shot in the dark, but I would love to see that track make it into more games. And not just ones with bikes.
One final thought.....that gravel trap bit was some of your finest work, Chris. The only disappointment I have is this: If you're gonna put a link in the description AND in chat, then why not make one of those links, y'know, THAT VIDEO? Just to keep the Astley joke train going :)
Haha - wow! That's a hell of a list... and honestly I find myself agreeing with all of it! I especially like the "pit crew messed up" idea.
I wasn't sure if many of em were creative enough. Glad you like the list!
Ooooh, the incredibly rare hatless Chris!!
I'd love to see a dedicated Group C sim that not only has the usual suspects (Sauber-Mercs, Porsche 956 and 962, Mazda 787, Nissan R89C, and the Jaaaaaaag XJR9), but also lesser known Group C's like the Lancia LC2, Aston Martin AML1, and the Zakspeed Ford Probe GT (crap as it was).
And - fully customiseable grids, offline and online, like as in TOCA World Touring Cars (seriously old school example).
Count me in, with the likes of the Tiga's and Spice's... and of course all of the C2 cars as well!
Always great videos Chris. I think that AMS 2 has the most realistic gravel traps at the moment. I have only had it for 2 weeks and on several occasions I have gotten completely beached - after 1 or 2 minutes of trying everything my little brain can think of, absolutely nothing left to do but hit the restart button. This has happened to me in both open wheelers and heavy tin-tops.
Hello Chris,
I was a single screen User myself for pretty much my whole sim racing career (which startet back in GPL Times). Now I am racing with VR. What I can not really can recommend high enough is TrackIR when you race on a single screen. This gives you the possibility to look around check you mirrors, look to the apexes and so on. I was using it for more than 10 years and only decided to go to VR after it broke after 10 years of excessive use.
Greetings from Germany!
stay safe everyone!
rFactor 2 allows you to map a "Look Down" button. Never really used it though.
iRacing allows you to do this as well
@@bensoniusprime Yep, as does Project Cars 2.
But otherwise, a good list of suggestions imo. I'd love a Group C sim :D.
@@bugsam only if the Nissans can have a turbo issue and become stupidly quick
I think the gravel suggestion would work nicely because it would also prevent people from being able to just renter track very quickly after losing control. By the time they regain control and slowly move out, most people will be clear of that section of track.
OOooo, a group C sim. I'd be happy! However, how about a late 80's, early 90's "Golden Age of Motorsport" sim? As well as the Group C monsters, get some of the F1 classics (Fw14, MP4/4, Ferrari 641) in there as well...AND some IMSA GT/GTO/GTP circuits and cars (Audi 90 imsa gto) .... :-)
Great list. I'd like to add, more Can-Am content! There's very little actual Can-Am presence in racing games. Aside from the 917-30 or it's similar variants in PCars 2, there's next to nothing out there aside from a few ok-ish mods. Can you imagine a whole racing game dedicated to running through the years of Can-Am, cars getting faster and nuttier each year? It would be incredible. Similarly, a whole Group C series would be amazing.
Ah, yeah. For sure. Outside of the old GP Legends cars, and the ever-present Porsche Spider, there's not been a lot of Can Am content. I'd love it, but I'm not sure how plausible it would be for a lot of sim-racers! Scary cars.
There are only two things I need. Ability to link tire and fuel use to time accel in ACC. And the ability to send RSS an email specifying what car I want, and get a download link next morning with a full set of IRL skins.
Bloody hell, that last one is inspired!
Real life skins are not possible for RSS because they make paid mods. They could get sued if they have real brands on their cars without permission.
Netcode is the top of the list for me and my club. The poor netcode in PCARS2 destroyed one of the best sims out there at the time. Especially for a club running leagues and cups on a regular basis.
Yeah, 100% agree. The arguments have been done to death, yet here we are, still needing improvements in pretty much all sims.
1:54 I just let out a huge belly laugh out of that XD It reminds me of the days when I almost got banned from the GTPlanet Forums for Rick Rolling in that forum...
EDIT: Now I see you give a shout-out about the damage stuff. Thanks for that! Also worth mentioning... I showed my mom that photo, and her response was "Well I KNOW I didn't have twins, but...."
You almost got banned for that? Are GTPlanet total killjoys or something cause I have heard nothing but bad news from over there XD
Can't be twins, I'm older. Cloning is the only explanation. :)
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 Yeah, I got a strike on that, because basically I was "Teasing a Gran Turismo 5 trailer, featuring DAMAGE, Porsche, and Monza!!!", and it ended up being a Rick Roll.
Funny now, because all three of those are in GT ;)
Track specific base setups, it is a absolute essential if these sims want to get a more broad appeal and higher cashflow
A solution to being able to glance down could be head tracking. I have been using Track Hat for years and I love it. I am surprised I don't see content creators/streamers using it.
Good video, couldn't agree more. Love your suggestion that driver ratings are dependent on competing across multiple series
- Easy switch of wheel/button mappings when switching between different wheels!! No proper support for that anywhere... I have 3 different wheels (used to have 6!), so an absolute hassle!
- Controller config with visualization of what a button/control element is mapped currently - partly solved in a few Sims.
- Easy setup/start of adhoc races with racers that are online
Agreed. Even saving and loading profiles is unnecessary complicated, just let me save configs as favorites and then just toggle/click between them...
I'd bet over 50% of wheel users have more than one wheel rim.
Love your suggestions. Gravel traps - or any off track excursion having consequences would be great - even if it was only applied in "official" races - this would require a tow function similar to iRacing.
I also like the idea of a better damage model, and even reliability issues (much like F1 games where you swap out bits between races or even between practice and race) I think something that needs to come along with damage modelling is realistic time frames for repairs - you only get so many front bumpers for a race weekend, but maybe you can choose to duct tape up some pieces which will fix issues to a point (like a quick repair). I think we also need to avoid the iRacing system where no matter how long you are in pits repairing for you often can't fix top end speed issues. The reliability issues and damage really add to the story aspect when remembering a race you had online. (and also provides an excuse for my slow lap times)
I think the issue is that a lot of sims on the market have also tried to appeal to the casual gamer - perhaps recognizing that a lot of people are time poor and just want something they can pick up and race with mates.
Anyway, love your vids, keep up the great work (i really appreciate the editing, and especially the use of the beautiful project cars footage)
free roams, with assetto corsa like physics
more offroad crawling games.
BeamNG.Drive is what you want
Assetto corsa has open world like mods
Not really sim racing tough
I took a two year hiatus from sim racing and came back a week ago. My biggest wish then and now has always been better quality online racing.
Chris. Just a quick off topic item. I was hearing ground loop noise in the quieter sections of this video. Might be worth investigating. Thanks for another great video. :)
Very good first point. I totally agree! I've been thinking the same thing! Hopefully in the future
View that does not wobble/shake with the car's body movement.
In reality our brains compensate for the car's movement and keep the perceived image quite stable. For some reason most sims shake the whole image with the car's body movement.
I am getting tired/strained eyes, headache and in some sims ( looking at you Automobilista ) even motion sickness off it.
The ability to save controls as presets combined with being able to assign said presets on a per-car basis (so that it switches automatically)...this also includes enabling or disabling LEDs and displays on wheels (more for immersion). If I'm driving a Manual gearbox Muscle Car from the 70's, I don't want to see LEDs on my wheel lighting up...same goes for driving a GT3 that already has LEDs on the dashboard. Only Content Manager for Assetto Corsa is the only sim that does all these things thus far (iRacing has it too but not the custom LED option for each car).
For single player: A career mode with an in game engineer whose quality of suggestions are based on which guy you hired.
For multiplayer: The best AI engineer possible that gives you an excellent baseline setup and then evaluates your driving and further offers suggestions based on previous runs.
I really liked that subtle feature in (IIRC) NFS SHIFT where the driver viewpoint shifts back slightly on acceleration and forward slightly on braking. Really added to the immersion IMO.
Good point! When done well, head movement can really add to the experience. Subtle = good!
Bit late to the video but my most wanted feature is more useful race engineers. Codemasters F1 games actually do a decent job by offering you alternate pit strategies if things change. But too many sims have me fumbling with menus while trying to drive the car and performing fuel calculations to ensure I get enough at the next pit stop.
100% agree on the glance down one. Wish it was a thing, especially as i can only play on a single monitor.
1. Moddable career. Users can create races, championships and events and have very precise control over everything during a weekend. X car will break on lap z, sc on lap x, random events, chance based events, things that trigger other things to happen. Essentially career apps.
2. I want a good sim with career mode that is worth playing. Driving for a backmarker team should give you different goals than a front running one and I would not mind to have story driven mechanical damage events for example. I say if you put a career mode into the game either do it well or don't bother at all. It doesn't need to be insanely complex but just make it worthwhile as an experience instead of just pretend a list of races is a career (it isn't).
3. I want better simulation of faults and quirks of the cars. If a car has really bad clutch or poor ffb then make the car like that and communicate it to the user. The sims in general need to do much better job telling drivers what is going on because we don't have engineers or even manuals for the cars. We literally jump in blind and learn as we go. So add those quirks and make the sim communicate that stuff better so we don't think it is a bug. For example if a car has dogleg h pattern gearbox then make it such and tell us. And please sims provide front runner, mid pack and rear end versions of the same car to add variety even in single car class.
4. Every sim needs to add the ability to make and use your own skins online. It needs to be a simple drag and drop file system and it is super sad that kind of system is so rare. The sim should also provide templates and a model viewer. A good system would not require the user to edit any text files.
5. Make the games more open and let the community help the devs. Locking down all the files will just lock down all the issues. The more open the game is the higher the community will elevate the game. It is pathetic how some sims even lock down liveries. Let people change sounds, liveries, make ffb files, apps, shaders and whatever and make it so users can do it without having to manually copy files over original files. I don't mean creating your own physics engine but allow things like physics plugins for example. Of course everybody needs to run the same physics so there is no cheating but there are very knowledgeable people who can add lots of useful stuff if they just could.
Playing multiple titles at a higher level is much more complicated then one thinks. Most of us have a job a family life which adds to the reduced spare time available for simracing. What I would like to see is a focus on the driver and not the driver/engineer role almost every sim has. I am not there to set up my car for every track. As a driver it isn't my primary job. Giving feedback yes but tuning the whole thing, no thanks. PC2 had a nice thought with it by answering questions to change setups. Would like to see this system being developed upon. What I would like to see is a decent story, more implementation of catching the atmosphere of a raceweekend and mixing up the uncertainties during a raceweekend. Commentary during a racereplay would be great too. I started back in the days with F1'97 and TOCA2. First one had commentary from Murray Walker and the latter from Tiff Needell. In today's games this is almost totally gone. Sure we have commentary by streamers during multiplayer events but the biggest chunk is done offline against AI by players and I find it a shame it is being neglected. More camera varation and customization for replays, an option to place camera's, different onboard cams and an option to record/add commentary on the fly. If a sim is an official licenced series (ACC for example) than it would be great to get a mix of the real life event and sim. During official raceweekends the qualifying can be done directly with the reallife event and qualifying times are directly updated ingame. The race ingame would be setup accordingly during the weekend and closely follow the reallife event. Next to group C I would love to see a true sim on the super touring era (STW/BTCC) or the early Grand Prix days :)
Totally agree. I actually had something similar down in a first draft of the video, but cut it out to keep things simple. I'd go one step further though, with the telemetry data collected in these sims and output to systems like MOTEC, it would be possible for your "race engineer" in game to make some sensible setup suggestions, or even implement them if you choose.
@@ChrisHaye Maybe something to talk about in another vid ;) I forgot to mention filters! I would absolute love to have different graphical filters which can even be customized. Think for example different comic-book filter styles, manga filters or even the cellshade filters. It would allow for some fantastic stuff.
Lidar based VR "lighthouses" to track hands/fingers accurately enough so I can flick a switch in my VR cockpit instead of knocking a cup of tea over whilst fumbling for the space key lol
I want the ability to put on used tires in an endurance race (and for this to be useful, i want tiremanagement/strategy, allocation of tires for endurance racing). I want the ability to save tires in one session and putting them on the car in another session (primarily for setup development)
Loved the William Marsh Joke. His channel is great
I really really really want a proper drag racing sim. Or atleast for a sim to include it among their racing types. I love watching funny cars and top fuel dragsters drag race and it takes a lot of skill and practice. Unfortunately, unless you like racing Nissan GT-Rs against Lamborghinis, there isn’t any good drag racing sim at the moment and I’m sad to say it, but some of the most realistic options out right now are mobile games!
That's a really good point.A surprising oversight actually.
Someone commented it before but I'd also love to see a "progression" story mode like Toca or somewhat like GRID. Working your way up through the ranks as the goal is to win the Formula 1 World Championship or to win at any top level. Especially if it had varying levels of driver skill, like much more aggressive and stupid things (and people who dive out of the way every time) happening in clubman class races and more calculated professionalism in higher end races.
I also miss the team creation of GRID. I loved seeing two cars with my designed livery on it.
Agree with Group C and hope for AMS 2 in this regard, which has a look down function and now i know why and will map this function:) Deadly gravel traps are already in AMS btw and i think there are some in rF2 iirc. My wish would be a VLN-simulation with 150+ cars in all kinds of classes on the track like in real life. Raceroom did a okayish job with it's 100 cars, but it's just a practice workaround with dumb AI. Cars in your own class should be smart and cars in the slower classes smart enough to go out of the way properly. Cars you don't see should be just dots on the map and not hooking performance. This method would be also nice as a trackday-simulation.
I'd love to have better weather and ToD options. They need to be quick and easy. When I race in autumn in brazil, how would I know at which time it gets dark there?
How about a "race events"-LINE graph that starts with "race start" on the left and "race end" on the right and in between it shows important points and areas like "here the sun will set", "here it's getting dark enough that headlights make sense", here are the recommended pitstops, in this area the chance for light rain is above 50%, at that point it will 100% start raining, from this point on the track will be rubbered in equal to medium track performance, here the track will be so wet already that full wets are necessary. And you should be able to change that by entering numbers (like it is currently, but please, minute-accuracy, not by-the-hour)... AND also by directly dragging and click sliders on that race timeline.
Thanks for giving us this forum, Chris!
Grand Prix 2/3 had the best gravel simulation. You could actually get beached.
Yeah, as always, Crammond was ahead of the pack!
Defiantly more realistic damage model 👍🏻 (visually and mechanically). I feel having more extreme consequences to careless driving would create better racing. Also it would make for some awesome replays! 😁
I'd like to see safety cars. I used to play a lot of PC2 and I play ACC nowadays and it would be much more fun if safety cars were a thing as if you watch any amount of real-life motor racing (f1 notably) a safety car can completely change a race. Also, mandatory pit stop in ACC public servers would be fun
Thank you Chris (& thank you Jean, I have subscribed to you too now!)
I fully intend to stop practicing Ravel etc on the piano and start sim racing... once my boyfriend stops playing fucking sim hospital on our damn pc, DAMN YOU CORONAVIRUS
I'd really like to see car customization (like Forza, but even deeper).
What we need
1. Huge amount of cars and tracks
2. Nice graphics
3. Modding
4. No "use cars infront to brake"
5. Yes multiplayer with good servers
6. Nice multiplay system like iracing
7. Real licensed cars
8. Real track with laser scan
9. Nice car sound
10. Its impossible right now
Maybe someday we will get this
Would like a serious sim on classic g.p. cars mid 70 - 80's. All the tracks they used ,all the cars. No fluff, no fake podiums, interviews. Just content that enhanced the sim.
Here’s my wish: I want the sim to recognize my wheel and set ffb strenght to match the car. This should be easy to do and We would only need an override based on % lower or higher that he actual force would be. This way I don’t have to adjust my ffb when I go from a powersteerimg car to a non powersteering car and I get the correct feel. Even AC with CM could implement this with lookup tables. What do you guys think?
Have to say your voice is really realaxing listening to. You should have a podcast or something =)
Yes I know it is a really stupid and unrealistic wish but I would love to have the opportunity to proper develop my car. Not only like in the F1 games and not only offline. I imagine the possibility to modify the 3D Model (and therefore the aerodynamics), suspension and electronics. This would mean you would have to understand a changing car and not just learn how to setup a car for eg. Simracing. I know this is never going to happen but hey... Everyone should be allowed to have his dreams, right?
For now I would be happy with a good in-game livery editor like Forza has, good safety cars and real flag implementation.
That'd be incredible. My Summer Car meets RF2. Someone set up a kickstarter!
AMS1 has gravel traps that you cannot escape with formula trainer or carts. I think AMS2 has it too. For looking down check out aruco headtracking.
What i would like to see is a good single player career, RPG like, from zero to hero.
Best sim racing channel on CZcams imo
"We" are doing a great job at rendering materials, textures, and lighting. But one thing that has been stuck in time is the replay functionalities. The camera behavior is unrealistic and boring. Broadcasting is a big part o sim racing, so it would be nice to have a more natural look and feel to the races we experience from outside the track. Something like camtool (in AC) would be perfect.
Chris, thank you for your effort and content. Cheers.
a competitive and coherent Ai co driver to swap with in endurance races. because some of us wont get to Le Mans
1 thing that really annoys me with most sims is they never get the drivers hands on the wheel correct. Iracing is the only 1 that I have seen do a good job where it looks like the hands are properly holding onto the wheel. AC is the worst as the driver has dislocated wrists to hold the wheel and all the rest of the sims make it look like the hands either aren't holding the wheel or holding it so lightly you wonder how they could apply any turning force. With VR becoming more prominent having good driver hands, and further to that driver animations, helps sell the immersion.
I know AC competizione will be adding GT4 cars soon but in the mean time have you considered Guerillas GT4 pack? It still has a few little hiccups on some cars but they can be overlooked for some absurdly fun racing
I would love to have a game that made you take license tests per series. For instance, you cannot compete in the in-game Nur 24h until you complete at least 17 clean laps. Or getting true stories and challenges. Nascar 06’ got this down near perfectly with real scenarios you had to overcome. Or how about if you complete certain sections of the game, it grants you real-life accolades? I don’t think the mechanics need much addressing anymore. I believe the real issue comes with immersion and you believing you are an actual racecar driver.
Better sounds and sound design. There's still room for a lot of improvement on this subject.
Car damage is not a licensing issue anymore.
It is just very tricky to get in a real time engine as it is extremelly heavy to do.
Simulating it in realtime is not possible currently and it would require premade destructed models which would look very boring.
We need better computation to do that, especially with the massive amount of people complaining about optimization
Bear in mind that adding different odels of the same car would require obviously to redo the unwraps (texture map) of all the models of every car, and redo the texture patterns of every already made liveries, huge amount of work. So very long and expensive to do just to gte some premade broken models.
It's just not possible money wise either
Agreed on the variety, it is a selfmade problem.
When we tried the FRX-90 in a League I Race in, nearly No one showed Up.
Only the community of the much maligned Project Cars 2 has been ready to experiment consistently.
This year alone we have already Run:
-Ferrari 488 Cup (EU)
-LM 1960s
-Ginetta GT5 Cup
And from this Friday we're gonna Run the DTM 1992/Group A.
Sadly we don't know If Pcars2 will continue there with AMS2's release.
Which would be sad, cause Last year we Ran:
-LMP2
-GT3
-WRX
-Group 5
-GT1
-RS.01 Cup
I think people are Just too afraid they'll be Bad, but as C.W. "Mover" LeMoine once said: "Enbrace the suck!"
I Ran WRX though I had never drüben it, I sucked but WRX was still fun and I had nice people to Drive with.
P.S. In regards to that DTM 1992 cup, shall I put up a link, Chris?
AI in multiplayer sessions would be great...it would be nice if you could create a whole season with AI and your friends (like in codemasters F1) but for example in ACC.
Group C sim would really be fantastic 👌🏻
I want people who crash not to get flags or penalties I want them ghosted, putting people who do this to ghost is way worse than a one race 5secer. Keep up the good work 👍
@looking down - just use TrackIR or some self made Freetrack compatible model and you get VR like experience on monitor.
Very interesting list bud, I really can't say that I disagree with anything you mentioned at all. If only we could handpick the best features from the various racing sims out there to make the perfect simulation title, hey, a guy can only dream 😁
Yeah, that's where wishlisting gets messy :)
@@ChrisHaye Very true bud.
Just give me SC and fully personnal liveries with Photoshop and such in ACC and I will be feeling better already
bruh all I want is an actual simracing GAME like GTR2 or even Forza/GT with sim physics. Running a team, buying and upgrading cars, unlocking things, hell even leveling up is rewarding and engaging. Only Codies does this and not even all the time.
I'd love to see a more hard core 'Sim' racing title give us a Codies F1 style career mode at some point.
I'd like to see a sim that has a damage model that is exactly like real life.
I can imagine this being possible in the not so distant future.
The idea that manufacturers don't want to see their cars damaged in sims has been around a long time, back to the 1990s when games like Need For Speed and Test Drive were dominant and manufacturer licences were closely guarded.
But is this still true? Does anyone actually know of any real examples of a manufacturer preventing a proper damage model in the current crop of sim games? I haven't heard of any, and from what I've seen of iRacing's new damage system it seems the manufacturers can't really have any objections.
I'm happy to be proven wrong but I just don't think this reason exists any more.
Several developers I've spoken to have said the issue is still prevalent. I don't have any first hand experience though.
Good list, agreed wholeheartedly
I would like to see multiplayer Spectating from off track, would be very cool in VR to have real avatars to interact with each other in the bleachers.
As someone coming from arcade racing games and planing to start playing sim racing(as soon as I get enough resources to upgrade my computer and buy racing wheel). I have childish wish to be able to visualy modify cars(yes yes just like in NFS games and I know this is not going to happen in near future) in SIm Racing games.
Group C dedicated sim NOW!
What I want is sim street racing...
There is almost no competition drifting in the sim world. Some games do it but no sims do.
Yeah, that's a great point dude. Shouldn't be too hard to implement in a sim that has the right content to start with.
Gopherchucks - I think there is a new Steam Early Release drift game/Sim? coming out, as I just saw the link for it now. I believe (from memory) it was called Torque Drift, or something like that ; )))
Honestly, your best bet is probably Forza Motorsport 8 whenever it releases this year. I’m sure it may be disappointing to hear that, but at the moment they actually have formula drift cars and a drift competition setting. Additionally, you can modify many street cars to drift spec settings. Horizon 4 has actually improved the wheel settings dramatically enough to where I can play with my buddies on console without frustration. It certainly won’t be perfect, but keep your eye out.
@@epicninjali3640 Yeah I know the cars are there, even PC 2 has De'Nofas mustang but nothing to do with it. I haven't played Forza 7 but I have horizon 4.But the drift challenges are not like a competition. Not even grassroots like Pats acres. Assetto Corsa has a large mod community but no actual drift competitions. The one I saw on steam has horrible physics. I own it and I know they are working on it. But it is a massive sport these days. I just wish the sim devs would take the time to make it.
I have one simple thing that I'd like to see, more content for console plebs like me.
Anything that helps identify and then ban the wreckers is a good thing - or that helps generate a meaningful "safety rating" (coz ACC's isn't working for me just now). As is anything that helps a single player experience ton be better/more immersive. So how about something that acts as a teammate and "drives" at your speed (so as you get better so s/he does too) so you can then leave "RoboMate" [tm] to drive some stints while you "do life", then return to pick up your part.
Some kind of automatic driving instructor, to help you shave time off by identifying your weaknesses and coaching you over/around them? Not easy to program I'm sure but hey you didn't say easy ...
A career mode that charted your progress against historical achievements ... so how would you have fared doing what Clark, or Senna, or whoever, did for real?
And as others have said a decent "crew chief" who helps with setups coz it's got to daft levels these days. Still have the ability to adjust manually for those who enjoy fiddling, but for those who don't, a crew chief to assist.
A DTM game is the highest priority
Hey Chris...I love your channel and hope you and your family are safe and well
I know how good you are with Assetto Corsa and Sol and Custom Shaders Patch
Can you answer a question please if you can. I have noticed when doing racing at night the tracks official or mods like Croft Circuit are black as dark and headlights are not really enough to race properly...Is there something in sol or csp I am missing that can make the track a bit brighter like say moonlight
Thanks Heaps for any help
Day time is Awesome
Good question Craig, and I'm not sure I know the answer. I'll look into it!
@@ChrisHaye Thanks Chris I appreciate any help
Why does pCars2 have pretty much full damage on every car but yet ACC doesn't? They have the same cars from the same manufacturers for the most part? Whats stopping them?
Things like the Kamel GT go stale cause people get tired of driving the same old 2 cars for the last three years. Add more GTP/GrC and GTO cars and watch it boom.
I think for the most part everything we need in sim racing already exist. The problem is we need them to exist in one title and all titles from here on out.
The most crucial thing sim racing needs is the auto manufactures paying cold hard cash to have their cars featured in these games/sims.
I don't know the answer re: PC2, but I've been told by multiple developers that the manufacturers are the sticking point when it comes to damage.
I’d love for rankings to be based on an average within a racing discipline
Yeah, I think that's sort of what I was trying to convey with the "participation across multiple categories" bit.
Chris Haye indeed I was echoing you 😅
You missed out proper rear view mirrors
Jean mentioned that in his video, and didn't want to tread the same ground. I think mirrors could use an overhaul entirely in most sims to be honest.
@@ChrisHaye in VR for ACC the new new mclaren doesn't even have an in cockpit rear mirror and the side mirrors are rubbish and not at position to allow you to see the car behind. I am just driving blind unless I use the mini map to see if there is a car behind. LFS has the best mirror model by far. ACC should hire the developer from LFS.
I want the opportunity in ACC to set a range of AI levels, e.g. 90%-95%. This would simulate the difference in speeds that I also get in my (human) league races in stead of the train that I get now in AI races.
I want to start from the bottom and work my way up fix my car and make it my own
I just want all sims to allow custom grids like RaceRoom does
Ams2 does the gravel trap thingy and the look down
In project cars 2 you can look down.
FULLY CUSTOMISABLE CHAMPIONSHIPS! Codies have done it before, but who's doing it now?
I wish I could use trackir in every sim
Fingers and hands tracking in vr
Race out in the streets that look like normal streets
Built in track builder
Random track generator
Ai and player races
Open world with sim physics
Money progression
Cost to repairs
Cost to damaging road infrastructure
More Tracks! More Cars!