Why The Nine Tails Is So Much Stronger Than The Other Tailed Beasts
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- The Nine Tails is the strongest out of the 9 Tailed Beasts. But Why is it so much stronger? It's almost a disproportionate amount. In the fight between Naruto using the Kurama Avatar vs 5 other Bijuus he is able to tie the Tailed Beast Bomb in strength with them, and Naruto only had half of the 9 Tails chakra inside of him.
The Kyuubi is a dominant force of Nature and one of the most powerful chakras in Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. In the Naruto War Arc the Nine Tails even fights against the 10 Tails, and tanks a Juubi Bijuudama.
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What's your favorite Tailed Beast?
Akoromo is an idiot in math
@@Leonardovideogoes akoromo?
Mine favourite is giyuki
Kisame
10 tails
You know it's crazy to think of that the Kurama we saw do all these crazy things throughout the series was only half of it's full power even in the final fight with Sasuke
and than think about hashirama defeating the whole thing with just a madara
@@igortristao3102 With a Madara?
@@Xeno574 He means just with wood style 1000 hands technique
@@igortristao3102 plus madara>>>kyuubi omg
I wrote this same comment on a different video bout kurama lls it's insane wen u think bout it the entire series
If I had to guess, the power difference is meant to prevent someone from assembling the Ten Tails back together. If the chakra was evenly split, then anyone stronger than a single tailed beast would collect them all. Kurama being so much stronger would in theory ensure that at least one tailed beast would be too difficult to obtain, so they would still come up short in bringing the Ten Tails back. Not like it matters much since Hashirama captured all of them anyway, and during the war arc the Ten Tails returned despite having only a portion of Kurama's chakra.
That's kind of evil since their basically his kids
a meme theory from the chinese community is that when hagoromo is dividing the power, he let kurama do the job, so kurama is like "one for you (shukaku), one for me, one for you (matatabi), one for me..."
While is still better than using the "rule of cool" reason, it really don't work too well. Because if the problem was that, Hagoromo should have simply split the 10 Tails into 2-3 beasts with all his power in them. Not creating 9 of those with powers so fluctuating between them. Also because power is not all and a beast can be defeated in other ways. if you create a situation like the one we saw in the series. One needs only to obtain Kurama's power and the rest is a relative pieace of cake. Without consider that to re-assemble the 10 Tails you needs a Rinnegan and a true Rinnegan user is capable of defeating Kurama probably. Nagato that was a fake Rinnegan user could do crazy stuff with it and he was a proxy similar to what Kakashi is for the Sharingan
@@YataVSTheWorld only one character in the series had a rinnegan (Madara) and Sasuke got his from Hagoromo himself. Other than that the number of shinobi able to subdue Kurama can be counted on one hand.
Hashirama was such a guy.
Founded a village, strongest ninja in centuries, strongest hokage for decades... founder of bullshit asspull cells, and completed the pokedex.
From hearing that the 9 tails is equal to all the others combined I always assumed hagaromo's jutsu halfed the chakra each time. So from the 10 tails the 9 tails had 50% of the chakra, 8 tails got 25% 7 tails got 12.5% and so on
I thought the 8 Tailed Beast were equal to half of Kurama not full Kurama, but THAT Makes a lot more sense.
Kurama should just be 50% not 75% that's too much
i always figured they got tails equal to the portion of chakra they got from the ten tails. Making kurama 9x stronger than shukaku in theory.
@@MementoDespair aye, I always thought through the war arc that Naruto and kuramas feats were only just better than Bs and 8tails and I put that down to Narutos massive chakra reserves and sage mode, if 9 tails is 50% than during war arc he's split in half so he'd be equaling 8tails at 25%
Correct me if I am wrong but there was 45 portions of chakra Nine tails/Kurama got 9 and the two tails/matatabi got 2
@@thelostwanderergames4287 I haven't read the manga but according to the anime, kurama is stronger than all the other tailed beasts combined, so I would assume you are wrong, but I might be mistaken
My theory is that when Hagoromo used the jutsu on Ten tails, it started splitting half by half every time. Thus the pie chart thing makes sense.
Yes agreed. I coulda sworn it was said somewhere in the manga but I seem to be misremembering
i have similar theory but not half. Since 10 tails was much stronger he can only pull a few chakra from it and it was the first tail. And the beasts chakra was less stronger so every time he pulls he was able to draw more chakra so the new tailed beast got stronger every pull from 1 tail to 9tail.
Problem is, other tailed beasts don't get expanded enough. All we get is basically their history and got caught by Akatsuki. How can you see their strength from that?
It's the same for other villages, compared to Konoha
U can see there strength through feats and statements
Sadly, that's the consequence of the concept of protagonism.
@@chalbramwell5353 I can agree on displayed feats, but statements are almost always influenced by the point of view of the character saying it.
@@chalbramwell5353 Statements aren't the best medium. I'm sure you've heard "Show, don't tell."
For feats, you get more rooms to show if your role in the story is more than "getting captured." For example, Hachibi has this role to show Naruto (and us) what Jinchuuriki can do if they work together with the tailed beast.
Mist village on top
you gotta consider that hagoromo was on the brink of death while he was doing this, so he maybe didn’t have enough strength left to split it evenly and properly
The order of strength for the tailed beasts make sense vecause of the mythology so they cant be equal
There is a difference between not being even to half the nine tails being stronger than the other tailed beasts
My theory is that Hagoromo made the 9 Tails so much more stronger in order to protect its siblings from an Akatsuki type situation. If they were all balanced equally, then it would be easier for humanity to catch them all. Kurama also has a lot of pride, so if he learned that people were capturing the other beasts he'd probably want to wreck those plans since it brings down his reputation (hence the bad relationship with the 1 Tails).
the real reason is for naruto to be op
The last time I checked, the siblings got chained by some masked guy due to imbalance power distribution.
Nah man, I just think my man Hagaromo accidentally took too much chakra out of the 10 tails the first time he tried to separate it. Then had to spread it from there.
@@dhruvrakkeshThey were also kind of sealed inside human vessels that can be defeated in specific means. It really just speaks to the power and resourcefulness of Obito/Madara and the Akatsuki
Kurama is probably just a bit weaker than all 8.
Gedo statue is the remnants of 10 tails and it itself is also rather powerfull.
The pie chart ratio seems like the most accurate as to how the story shows it, an explanation for it could be, that the Juubi was resisting being transformed, so Hagoromo always had to take away half of its chakra, until it was weak enough to be fully transformed (into Shukaku?), who is also the only bijuu with a unique demon cloak, so maybe that is connected somehow. It also puts Kurama as the oldest or firstborn of the bijuu.
But personally, I would actually prefer if all the bijuu had equal or near equal amounts of chakra.
Or at least that each tail was a direct measurement, so Kurama would be nine times stronger than Shukaku, but only 1.125 times stronger than Gyuki, and so on. If the story focussed more on the actual jinchuuriki, this would be my preferred model.
The pie chart implies Kurama has an 8x multiplier from Shukaku. If the explanation was instead each tail was an equivalent boost than Kurama would have a 9x multiplier on Shukaku. I think narratively both explanations would work (even though neither is canon).
@@sentjojo For the first one, it'd roughly be a 256x multiplier, I believe. Which seems pretty high, but sadly, looking at how the series scales, it's probably rather accurate. I guess it also only means the amount of chakra there is, so only indirect implication of pure strength.
10 1000
9 500
8 250
7 125
6 62.5
5 31.25
4 15.63
3 7.81
2 3.91
1 1.95
500/1.95 ≈256.4
Funnilly shukaku specialises in sealing which is used to bind anything like I dont know tailed beast
that order would also coincide with the order in which the akatsuki had to collect the tailed beast`s to seal them back together, reversing the order
because algoromo doesn't know the meaning of math
Bro said algoromo omg💀💀💀
You clearly don't understand logarithmic numbers.
Calculusdori
@@yesnp6313 the name kishimoto chose was horrible and i don't even like the x-machin god so meh
@@Leonardovideogoes how i sleep knowin majority of naruto comm don know the goat kishi rl is😴😌💤
i think it was this way, kurama was quite normal so he got more chakra, while the others got special skills to compensate, like lava release, steam release, being made of fire or sand, be able to live underwater and have high defence, be able to use ink, fly and so on
It’s always been weird to me as a kid how everyone said Kurama is the strongest yet didn’t have any interesting abilities like Shukaku’s sand, Matatabi’s fire, Son Goku’s lava, Kokuo’s steam, etc. All the “lesser” beasts have their own abiltiies, jutsus and cool gimmicks, except for Kurama.
Well Kurama can sense negative emotions, fire style should've been made canon since nine tails in most mythology has a fire ability
Im guessing since it didn’t have many jiinjurichis it never had the chance to develop its own power to protect its container unlike the rest. And since it size pretty much dwarfs mountains before he was contained there would be no reason to do so since since justa stomp or a flicker would kill anyone who tries to go near him
1 tail Sand
2 tails Fire
3 tails Water
4 tails Lava
5 tails Steam
6 tails Acid
7 tails some kind of powder
8 tails Ink
9 tails spitted Fire in the Pain arc
Kurama's main ability is "I'm just him bro"
@@yaryirauri6251 7 tails is pollen
You could make the argument that since the Akatsuki needed to collect the rest of the tailed beast before Kurama because if they collected the big guy first then it would lead to a power imbalance that would destroy the Gedō Mazō, it’s possible that Hagoromo gave Kurama the most chakra as a fail safe because he believed someone would try to reassemble the Ten-Tails, and by proxy his mother, so in case someone collected him first, their whole plan would blow up in their face, and if they did it the other way around they would have to face off against the first eight before handling Kurama, which is a Herculean task in of itself. The Akatsuki lost all but one member, Obito, just to collect them all, and even then he wasn’t able to acquire the last two until Madara and Black Zetsu stepped in.
If we think of it like that, it kind of checks out on why Hagoromo gave Kurama the most chakra. In fact, it’s kind of brilliant.
Yeah but if isshiki was in naruto shippuden as a villain he would easily collect them all no sweat so sixpaths old man did a useless plan since there are way strong foes that could easily overpower them
Thing is that's a BIG risk that they would go after the strongest one first. Glaring hole... what if they played it safe and went weakest to strongest?
@@chocoburgersenpai1627 I don’t think 6 paths old man was counting on someone like isshiki appearing otherwise he would’ve let naruto & sasuke keep his powers instead of returning it
But you forget that the Akatsuki had Itachi and Pain. Both of them could control the nine tails at will with their Sharingan and Rinnegan (like Madara). That much of the lore was established when Naruto first saw Sasuke at Orichimaru's hideout.
If they caught Naruto first and took the Nine Tails without putting it into the Gedo statue they would have just been able to win from the get-go. Nobody at that time was strong enough to take on the Nine Tails. The 4th Hokage was the closest and he had to cast the Repear Death Seal after exhausting all other options.
The only reason things didn't go that way was because of the plot needing Naruto to be alive and also so he would win his battles later on. Sadly there isn't much else beyond that. Kishimoto in hindsight js a really lazy writer.
How I like to take the tailed beasts is that Hagoromo divided the 10 tails in 9 different parts and they all grew as individuals with a conscience of their own.
This is exactly what happened.
@@kenlee117 what im trying to say is that they could have been equal in the beginning but during their life they got stronger and no longer equal in power
@@UNKNOWNL3G3ND This point was directly addressed in the video and is way too convenient. It's just a coincidence that through training and experience the tailed beasts happened to get stronger in line with the number of tails they have?
@@w.o.jackson8432 well 4 Tails is stronger than 7 Tails look at Tailed Beast Power Level video.
Does this also mean that the Ten-Tails will be stronger in the future than when Hagoromo first defeated it because to summon it, Akatsuki captured tailed beasts that had grown up and had increased power?
I started thinking the other day and wondered why the 9 tailed beasts don't have a form of Sage Transformation like Jugo's clan when the 10 tails itself is nothing but nature energy
they all already look like beasts :D
The ten tails was nature energy, but the nine tailed beast aren't, characters without sage mode can sense them.
@Azz Kin yup
I think hagoromo split the 33% nature from the soul=body=nature > 100% sage mode away from the bijuu and that was the actual body of 10 tails, the gedo mazo might hold the nature energy
And maybe that is what allowed the 9 bijuu to have their own minds, no longer a part of nature
The tailed beasts that Obito controlled are not a good measurement for their powers, as they are all not focused, while a Jinchuriki like Bee and Naruto have focused power of their beasts but also combine it with their own power, it makes sense to why Kurama appears stronger but in reality he might not be much stronger than the other tailed beasts as it may seem, he got defeated pretty easily by Madara just the same as all other tailed beasts.
you just forget something important! they was absorbed before it and give many chakra to the gedo mazo statue!
and even wee seen a not full fight cause the point was their freedom!
Yeah, since bee and Naruto had full control over their beasts they could unlock their full power easier, if the other jinchuriki had screen time and mastered kcm they would be on equal footing with them.
@@justinarzola4584 lol doubt they would equal, but at least they'll give Naruto and Bee more trouble.
U literally see power to power in the bijuu bombs exchange
@@justinarzola4584 KCM is only for Nine tails as it translates to Kurama Chakra Mode and you seem to forget that Sasuke absorbed all of their chakra yet cannot defeat Naruto. 8 tails cannot do HCM Hacchibi Chakra Mode despite Bee having full control, they would not be on equal footing lmao tails are there for a reason its delusional to think that, the chart makes sense.
Edit: Forgot to add that most of the tail beasts hosts had control over their tailed beasts in the series onlly 9 tails were stubborn but since its already been a year you commented that you might know it by now
I think both the piechart and Hagoromo splitting it unevenly checks out. He just took 50% of the 10 tails, made the 9 tails, then took another half of what was left (so 25%), made the 8 tails, and so on, and he either didn't notice or didn't care that it wasn't evenly split
Math isn't Hagoromo's strong suit 🥴🥴🥴
@@cloudyven39 well Kaguya probably isn't a good math teacher so...
Yea I coulda sworn it was said something about taking half the ten tails to make the nine tails and so on. But I cannot find that in the manga atm. Glad I found your comment. I feel a little less crazy.
That doesn’t make sense though since that would mean Naruto’s half is as strong as the 8 tails but that’s clearly not the case.
@@chickenplayz8832This would mean Kurama is at least twice as strong as the 8 tails.
It seems pretty straightforward. Hagoromo started from the 9 tails and worked his way down. Pretty much, he gave Kurama half the strength of the Juubi, then gave Hachibi half of Kurama's strength, and so on.
Note that it's not just having more chakra, is being able to control it better and manifest more chakra as well
Been thinking about this for a bit and here's my theory as to why Kurama is the strongest tailed beast.
After Kaguya took the fruit from the tree and ate it and gained chakra, the tree started the whole process of gathering chakra again in order to germinate a new chakra fruit but before the process could complete The Sage of Six Paths used creation of all things to split the tree's chakra with 1 to 8 tails being made from the outer layers of the chakra fruit that got denser and denser the deeper you went into it until finally you get to the core of the fruit where close 50% of the chakra had collected at that point in time and being the densest part The Sage Of Six Paths probably did not have the strength to plit it further and thus applied the same shape transformation to mold it into The Nine Tailed Fox.
1 tails as the outer most layer of the fruit doesn't have much chakra relative to the other tailed beasts
2 - 7 I think are interchangeable in terms of power being the inner top layers so their chakra would most likely be evenly distributed amongst them.
8 tails would have a larger reserve of chakra as it is closer to the center of the chakra fruit where most of the chakra would collect and be concentrated.
9 tails would literally be the chakra fruit core(seed) personified, making him the most powerful tailed beast of them all.
This is my theory it probably has a lot of holes but I like it and it makes a lot of sense to me.
My logic is, he made them progressively more powerful so nobody could gather all of them again to form the 10 tails. If they were all equal in power, gathering them would be fairly easy if you already know you can handle 1 of them
So instead he just made it so one village was stronger than the others. Just screams retcon to power up Naruto. Instead of trying to bend over backwards to make it work just admit it was bad writing.
“Because Naruto needed the plot armor”
Yep
The tails are EXPONENTIAL MULTIPLIER.
Therefore Kurama alone is ¼ of the JUUBI,Gedou Mazou is half the juubi and 1 to 8 are equivalente to complete kurama.
that would mean the gedou mazou is stronger than the nine tails and also the gedo mazou is just the husk that the ten tails left behind, the tailed beasts are made out of the ten tails’ chakra
@@sapnavora6834 canonically the husk of ten tails collected senjutsu and has AN huge life force even without the biju.
Those factor server the imprisonment and synchronization of their chakra.
At that point, what's even the point of the division. Naruto back at it with the trash writing. Another piece of trash writing, to the trash writing pile.
One problem with that is the tails in between. Kisamw fought the 8 tails and the 4 tails and had extreme difficulty with the 4 tails. Same thing regarding the capture of the 2 and 7 tails
The gedo Mazou never really had a chakra percentage though
Just a huge amount of life force
because its the portagonist's power up
Right answer.
Yup
Can’t explain why it seems each tailed beast gets stronger but one thing that could help explain Kurama is the apparent connection to the sharingan. What if, in a similar way to an Uchiha getting stronger with more hatred, anguish, etc…, Kurama’s chakra did the same. Karin did say that Sasukes chakra was much darker when he kept evolving the sharingan, so maybe Kurama having a growing hatred for people made him stronger.
Sasuke was more darker because he as a person was darker
I heard theories that the nine tails has 50% of the 10 tails. All tailed beasts have half of each others Chakra. Which means.
Kurama 50%
8 tails 25%
7 tails 12,5%
6 tails 6,25%
5 tails 3,125%
4 tails 1,56%
3 tails 0,78%
2 tails 0,39%
1 tails 0,19%
I do agree with this explanation. I think, we all know that Ying Kurama was already way stronger than the 8 tails, which would debunk this theory, because Ying Kurama is the half of full Kurama. So, it would mean ying Kurama is 25% of 50% full Kurama. This makes him as strong as the 8 tails without difference, Chakra wise of course. But we know that this isn't the case. Still, this is the only explanation which is logical and a realistic choice of kishimoto
Said it once, will say it again. Kishimoto sucks at writing and planning. This is one reason i say naruto is full of trash writing. Imagine the idea that Naruto with only half of the kyuubi is beating any and everyone that comes his way.
Then his father shows up with another half and all of a sudden can use kyuubi chakra despite being dead from the moment he took it into him. Stupid stupid stupid.
@@You-to-be the second half your comment isn't kishimotos bad writing skills, but that you didn't understand the situation.
KCM or kyubi mode isn't something you need to train for. You reach this form if you manage to harness the Chakra directly from Kurama on a great scale. KCM 2 or also called kyubi Chakra mode version 2 is merely a state where Kurama grants you all of the Chakra in his possession.
Since Minato split Kurama into Ying und yang, and sealed the good personality of kurama into himself which is yang Kurama, and yang Kurama shares the memories of Ying Kurama, he got along with yang Kurama very well in the afterlife/in the sealed world. Which made his Kurama half grant all of his Chakra from the get go. This is how he was able to use KCM 2. This explanation is logical, and also confirmed.
@@CastleOfAvalon bruhhhhh that's just a bunch of post-hoc rationalization nonsense that kishimoto came up with to fool us.
Even if that's the case that's still horrible writing since none of it was explained to us, I don't recall any explanation of that at the time.
And even with the explanation it was a blatant effort to power boost minato, deus ex machina style.
Oh wow i didn't need Naruto anymore, i can now use his dad for juubi. Kishimoto sucks.
@@You-to-be some parts of a story must not necessarily be explained. Many writers do that, they show us the world and its rules, and sometimes we the readers or watchers must put things together to come to the truth.
If you don't like it, ok, but this is how it works. We got all information to explain this part of the story. Kishimoto made the ground work for us to find out.
You unnecessarily hate a part of the story.
@@You-to-be and I can't understand your problem. We knew from the start that Minato sealed half of kurama in himself, and he took the Yang half with himself to the "limbo" the world where his soul went after he used the reaper seal.
You know what would have been bad writing? If Minato didn't have Kurama inside of him. Because it would have destroy things we already knew of.
This part remains only your personal problem. I can't help you, you hate something that writers do and which actually is logical and good writing.
I like the explanation that each beast has special abilities, except for kurama who instead only has large chakra reserves
Maybe the tailed beast were made more to mimic certain creatures in certain biomes? That way they could all communicate situations of humans through various shared perspectives under Kyuubi's leadership/Hagoromo's ideal vision
I like the theory of each one having 50% of the power the previous one has, because explains how half of the Kiuby (25%) is equal to 1~7 Tails (25% total)
Random science anime: How to create fire.
An anime about Ninja: "So basically it's Nuclear fission."
Perhaps hogoromo intended to make more tailed beasts like Shikoku but the toll of each split of chakra was taxing and more taxing. So starting with something like Shikaku and by the ninetails was about to be conceived hogoromo only had enough strength to make the last 50% into one much stronger tailed beast.
I think what Hagoromo did was split 10 tails into 2 chakra pools. Create 9 tails with 1 half of the chakra and split the other half in half again. then use half of that to make 8 tails and the rest split in half so speaking with numbers: Kurama would be 1/2 of 10 tails, 8 tails will be 1/2 of Kurama, 7 tails would be 1/2 of 8 tails and so on. Otherwise it would make absolutely no sense how 9 and 8 were so power broken
The other way it could have happened is if he sapped chakra from 10 tails little by little and created tailed beasts from it. This makes more sense logically as then with the creation of each beast 10 tails would grow weaker and he can sap more chakra from it at a time until all that was left was the 10 tails husk
Never liked that the 9 tails was more powerful than the others. He should be equal in power since hagoromo divided them evenly but have different abilities instead that can counter one another if used smartly
Hagoromo didn’t divide them equally though
@@sapnavora6834 He just doesn't know how to do math
I don't mind him being strongest, my problem is just how much more ridiculously stronger he is. It's kinda goofy that the MC tailed beast is stronger then all the others combined
@@sapnavora6834 that is an even bigger problem, and the more uneven the division, the more counterintuitive and even more pointless it becomes. lol
I always thought that too
Maybe, when he was splitting up the 10 tails, he started with the amount of chakra the 1 tails had and originally thought he could split it evenly at that amount. But seeing how little it affected the overall amount of chakra that was left in the 10 tails, he took more for the 2 tails and then even more for the 3 tails all the way until what was left after the 8 tails and he just decided to put that into one more tailed beast, leaving the 9 tails with the most chakra
Man I love your vids especially the rewriting Naruto ones
My head cannon was before being seal and or genjutsu Kurama learned about nature chakra and began to stack it on top of his already massive reserves. Kurama is known for giving his Jinchuriki the ability to sense negative emotions. Possible by-product of being so in tune with nature chakra. Also Kurama seemed able to help Naruto refill his chakra with his own and the way it would sit and gather energy reminded me of someone gathering nature chakra for Sage Mode. Would it need to have access to one of the Summon Worlds or does it have access to it??
Kurama helps with sage because inside naruto he doesn't move
Kurama by itself cant use sage mode, literally why naruto did the sage mode
itachi said if the 9 tails was put in before all the other the Gedo Statue would explode so maybe that why he gave them different power levels
Personally, I just always thought that with each added tail, a tailed beast is TWICE as strong as the one BEFORE it.
So Two Tails is Twice as Strong as Shukaku, Kurama is Twice as Strong as 8 tails etc.
At least it made it easy to calculate in my headcanon😂🤷♂️
14:00 Seems I'm not the only one that had the same idea. It just...MAKES SENSE💀
That wouldn't make sense because that would mean kcm2 Naruto is equal to killer bee which just isn't the case.
@@onemicyeehaw1583 How? Kurama during the war could logically be argued to be the same strenght as Killer bee/8 tails since an entire HALF of him is MISSING😂.
Plus they both had the same feats during the war Pre Six Paths Buff. They both were holding it down against 10 tails singlehandedly and it didnt look like one was outdoing the other
And you can also just say Kurama has a slight edge because of Naruto's Toad Sage Nature Chakra beeing added to it. So it still works
I head cannoned similar but thought it was more like each tailed beast is squared. so 1 tail has a power of 1 the 9 tails would have a power of 81. And i think it would have to be something exponential like that for the 9 tails to be able to defeat all the beasts below it combined
@@no.1spidey-fan182 KCM 2 Naruto (without sage mode) had way better feats than full 8 tails. KCM 2 Naruto with just Yang Kurama is way stronger than Full 8 tails
It makes sense for each Beast to be stronger than the next, but it doesn't make sense for each one to be TWICE as strong as another... that would make Kurama like 18× stronger than Shikaku
The Tailed-Beast power chart is exactly the idea I already had in mind regarding their power. It kinda explains everything : why Shukaku would be so weak, why only one half of Kurama would be so strong, even why Height-Tails seemed not that far compared to the half of Kurama in Naruto in term of power. That would make the half of Kurama able to deal with all the other Tailed-Beasts.
Also my personal theory on why Hagoromo created them this way is your first theory. Hagoromo created them through Izanagi and even if he had the power of a god, Izanagi stays a technique that demands a lot of chackra to use, especially to manipulate such quantities of chackra. One use of Izanagi can close a normal Mangekyo Sharingan forever as we've seen in practice with Danzo. Hagoromo was so powerful but the more chackra you have, the more you can use more chackra consuming techniques. Same for Kaguya, it's said that her technique of jumping between dimensions consumes a crazy quantity of chackra despite the fact she has unbelievable quantities if I remember correctly. So you have it. Hagoromo created the whole Ninja world but he was still a half human. It's not crazy to believe that Madara who fought countless times on Battlefields was able to master Ten-Tails' power better to me. Hagoromo stays a very humble man who isn't searching for power despite everything he created. He's more like his son Asura in that regard.
Tbh I'd like to see you estlabish proper Chakra natures and Kekkai Genkai in your Naruto Rewrite. We only saw a HINT of this, which tbh was basically an Easter Egg at that point, cause we didn't know or dive into any of them until the war arc, through Naruto's Six Path Rasen Shurikens
I mean Shukaku was just given magnet release out of CONVENIENCE at this point💀. And for some reason Gaara doesn't have windstyle even tho Shukaku does. Which would've been another Parallel between him and Naruto
About Shukaku's strength, we have to take in mind that when he was introduced in Part 1, Kishimoto hadn't planned about the tailed beasts AT ALL. As a matter of fact, I think it's best to see Shippuden as a spin-off to the original Naruto, not as a sequel.
Shukaku was originally supposed to be a vengeful spirit of a monk sealed in a teapot, while Kurama is just some demon. The number of their tails was just there to make them look cool. It wasn't supposed to have any significant meaning.
Also, that wasn't shukaku, that was a jutsu that allowed gara's sand to mimic shukaku an allowed shukaku to take over his body. even when they retconed it later in the books, gara never entered a cloak or manifestation mode, he just lets shukaku take over his sand.
@@NoESanity I don't remember that lol, that is true.
I think each of the other tail beasts got some aspect of the 10 tails, like a special chakra attribute, while the 9 tails just got raw power.
The nine tails doesn't really have anything special going for it except how strong it is.
Yeah, that’s true. Nearly all the other bijuu have special abilities or kekkei genkai chakra attributes.
Uh Naruto recovers faster due to the nine tails. Also Nine Tails has the special ability to sense negative emotions which did help Naruto find out Kisame hiding in Samehada.
@@Vietmac1993 Naruto recovers faster because Kurama gets tons of Chakra from Naruto and able to store it, so it's not really just Kurama's power but Kurama plus Naruto.
@@Vietmac1993 LMAO “sense negative emotions” you do know that was just shitty plot armor for them to expose kisami .. right?
@@emmarosie7176 don't forget White Zetsu as well. The Allied Shinobi forces had trouble dealing with White Zetsu clones as allies.
One theory i always liked, though it was not ironclad, was that the more elemental the tail beast was the less chakra it had (like its stats were allocated elsewhere)
It also mentioned that the tailed beast arent PERFECTLY stronger by rank of tails as yes 9>8>.... But like the 5th and 6th tails seem to be pretty relative in strength whereas the 7th kinda didnt show much. 4th and 3rd seemed pretty strong but even compared to shukaku the 2 tails seemed like the weekest
So basiclaly the theory goes like this. The first 3 tailed beasts are the most elemental (sand, fire and water) and thus have an enormous amount of focus on their jutsu and the large quantities of their elements that they can manipulate (shukaku by far manipulating the most if you look at the sheer volume of sand he uses) 2tails and 3tails creating some elements but not as much.
4 and 5 being somewhat elemental but putting some "stats" into chakra and physique now (4 with his lava and 5 with his steam release). 5 is where the theory is a little flimsy as the jinchuriki that had him kinda implied that its the steam release that allowed boosted the physical strength.
6, 7, 8 are leaning towards more a large animal with loads of chakra but unique properties as opposed to elements. (Slugs use slime, moth uses pheromones and octobus uses ink in some way in their fighting style but they dont depend on it)
But finally the 9 tails has no elemental power whatsoever and is just a giant fox. Pure hunting instinct with no techniques really to back it up so he has the most chakra to aid in that simple attack manner.
Basically, put in simpler terms: kurama's stats are entirely chakra centered and has absolutely no affinity for anything else whereas everyone else kinda has balanced stats all the way down to shukaku on the other end of the scale who has lopsided stats entirely focused on controlling his elements to the point where it does so on autopilot to protect its host body
He is inside the main character. There you go.
He said that.
That last theory sounds good, but it might also be something related to each bijuu abilities, each one has their own element but Kurama, so Kurama would be the one who got as ability a bigger chakra pool, so that it makes that the difference between tailed beasts is big, but not that big
I mean the obvious answer here is retcon.
My theory is simple. Since each tail beast has a natural power like fire water etc and nine tail not having any extra power just have a huge amount of chakra
0:25 what the literal F U G G
It might be because he is the representative of ying- yang jutsu (considering he could be split in half too) which is the most powerful and is used by the strongest characters in the series like ten tails and the otsutsuki. While the rest all use basic chakra types and normal kekkei genkai.
Because he’s the protagonists special Tailed Beast.🙃
10 tails was divided into 45 parts (total number of tails of tail beasts) Kurama got 9/45 -20% of total chakra while Shukaku got only 1/45 ≈ a bit more than 2% of 10 tails chakra. And it sums that Kurama and 8 tails have almost half of the total chakra and beat others
why do u think 8 tails is much weaker than 9 tails. Bi absolutely destroy MS Sasuke and his whole team in terms of power and speed using 3-6 tails stages
I came for Naruto discussion. I stayed for ragnarok online background music.
The real reason : hagoromo really liked foxes
I assumed that Hagoromo chose that power distribution so as to make the ten tails maximally hard to reassemble.
More Chakra = More Tails theory combined with the pie chart to me makes the most sense
Kurama was buffed to be on par with the endgame characters, specially with the absurd buffs they gave to Hashirama and Madara
Naruto gave 9 tails charka to a WHOLE army and still had plenty for himself
and naruto made 10,000 clones and still had plenty to fight. numbers don't mean shit when you are ninja jesus with half of an infinite battery in your ass.
Gamabunta was clearly loosing against the shukaku. He was trully almost out when they revived gaara
What are you talking about lol
@@ambientsounds5832 they're talking about the shukaku v gamabunta fight in part1
@@chalbramwell5353 I know that. Gamabunta was clearly relative in that fight.
@@ambientsounds5832 if naruto didn't revived gaara, shukaku would have clearly killed gama, just rewatch it
@@ambientsounds5832pre Awakening Perhaps
The 9 tails is the one person at a birthday party that tries to get all the cake
I think there were just too many tailed beasts like 9 is so absurd. It made more sense in part 1 where it seemed like each major village had one. Also the whole splitting up Kurama in half retcon was a very stupid plot device but so was the ten tails in general so what can you do.
Because he in the hero's tum.
If this is true, then Hashirama is WAY stronger than I previously imagined, taking on a susano cloaked UNDIVIDED 9 Tails AND Madara at the same time. Craziness.
We didn’t even see Yugito fight Kakuzu and Hidan, the conclusion was off screen… it could have been the hardest fight if their lives so why say the 2 tails “put up no resistance” especially when Hidan made it clear that he couldn’t handle it without Kakuzu doing “most of the heavy lifting” and we later see her helping to give Naruto an Bee problems
That was literally an amped Yugito she literally has an Sharingan and Rinnegan
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 what’s your point? 😂 all I said is that she helped give them problems that’s a fact. The point is we’ve never seen her fight so why jump to conclusions
When the plot in naruto demands something it gets it, same goes for this
Speaking of tailed beast, I think we all need an explanation on why Minato can use KCM, I think it’s bullsh*t and I rolled my eyes when I read the chapter years ago but hey maybe there actually is a in-universe explanation that I haven’t been able figure out after reading the manga a few times
Supposedly the reason Naruto struggled so much to control the 9 tails was because he had the yang chakra which was full of anger and hatred and was the least cooperative being in existence. Minato got the Yin chakra which was chill and easy to work with and KCM and any jinchuriki transformation that doesn't erase the user's mind requires cooperation. So that's the in-universe explanation.
However, Minato essentially took the Yin chakra into himself and died, he had no practice whatsoever. I understand that he had an easier time because he had the more cooperative part of the fox in him, but even that doesn't explain how he magically pulls a mastered KCM with zero experience being a jinchuriki in his life.
My theory for this is probably since Minato sealed two halves one part being the more malicious part of kurama inside of naruto, with more of the gentle nature of Kurama inside himself(probably unintentionally). And maybe that light half of Kurama could sense that Naruto was able to form a bond with the more malicious side to create the kcm. Plus they are both halves of the same coin so maybe it could feel the emotions through his other half and allowed Minato to tap into his power
@@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 well to help answer that question, Minato seal the Ying Kurama using the Reaper Death Seal which traps both soul in the Shinigami's stomach and they're "destined to fight each other for all eternity". So Minato and Ying Kurama were essentially training/fighting for 15+ years. I think that's a good amount of time for the genius Minato to defeat, control, and befriend Kurama
@@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 My headcanon was always that Minato and Yin Kurama were stuck in the Shinigami's stomach for 15 years and so they got to know eachother during that time.
It's not great, but it's still better than him just magically figuring it out within five minutes of regaining consciousness after he was revived.
Easy explanation, naruto is poorly written and poorly thought out.
Lots of trash contained within
Granted I haven't see the whole video yet but I believe their power is exponential and not incremental. Also, protagonist powers.
Even with all that power, a single glance from a uchiha nullifies them
If the difference between all of the Tailed Beasts was linearly consistent with the difference between the Nine Tails and the others, Tenten would > One Tail.
Wait, isn't a tailed beast stronger when it's combined with its jinchuriki? That puts the bijudama clash into question because Naruto and Kurama are combined. And Obito is not letting the other jinchuriki be at full power to be able to control them.
2. Isn't it stated that the biju all have their own special abilities that only apply to them. So in raw power, yea Nine Tails may be stronger if that's what we are measuring.
But if we are applying everything, then they appear to equal out. Because Son Goku is arguably stronger than the tailed beasts that have more Tails than he except the 8 and 9 Tails. Also, Kurama's cloak is different from the other tailed beast modes. That may also be a reason it appears more powerful than the others because it's an entirely different connection.
I've just never liked this debate because it's literally head cannon no matter how you argue it.
Yeah, I remember it being stated (I think by Bee?) that a Tailed Beast working with it's Jinchuriki is stronger than just the Tailed Beast alone. So I think with the fact that the other Bijuu's are locked in reanimated bodies, and mind controlled, inherently nerfs them. It's still impressive but not to such an absurd degree.
Yes they do get stronger with the jinchuriki cooperation, they are already destructive in their own but if the jinchuriki has special bloodline like Naruto it increases.
@Justin Arzola exactly, so that's not necessarily Kurama being stronger but the connection with kurama and a basically demi-god of the Naruto universe.
@@MultiCaiser exactly, we have to add the context to the bijudama clash. But if you lock Kurama or the 8 Tails in a Son Goku attack, they get defeated. It's shown when they got hurt by slightly getting touched by Son Goku's lava.
My theory is that each tailed beast has specific power, abilities and talent that they have received from Ten tails.
Shukaku got sand, wind and magnet manipulation as well as sealing technique and absolute defense. But in exchange he also received the least amount of power.
Matatabi has fire power ( a blue on top of that ) as well as cat hair ball Made of fire also probably being the fastest.
Isobu got water manipulation, abilities to spin around using his sheel to impact enemies and if remember correctly also ice?. Also his body is hardest and much nimble in water or liquid surface.
Son Goku has lava, earth and rock manipulation.
Kokuo has steam release and horn as well being the most physicaly powerfull than other ( above Kurama and Gyuki ).
Saiken has corrosive liquid, buble and poison IIRC, not sure.
Choumei has wind, bug bodyfication, spore and dust as well being the only one who can fly, and sting.
Gyuki being well rounded with significant amount of power and chakra as well with ink release.
With that above Kurama doesn't really has anything special about him aside being fox with nine tails. So being the only one with the most chakra and being the most clever probably a way for him to Match the other.
Side note tailed beast on their own are not strong it's with their vessel cooperation they could be much stronger than before. Not only Kurama got Naruto support ( as well as Bee and Gyuki support) he also fought against brainwashed tailed beast with no though whatsoever so that's explain the beatdown they got.
At least that's my theory.
My thinking is that Hagoromo's Creation of All Things had limited ability to mould chakra at extreme levels like in the tailed beasts:
Basically, akin to electron orbitals, chakra in those extreme quantities could only exist as a distinct form at very specific energy levels, with each tail number representing that energy level. If there were 10 energy levels, from 1-10 tails, then in order for him to split them up into distinct entities, he would need to distribute them along the different energy levels, thus creating 9 tailed beasts with varying power levels.
Additionally, this would lend credence to the doubling each time power scale, as this scaling would naturally lead to all 9 energy levels adding up to nearly exactly the 10th energy level (1+2+4+8+16+32+64+128+256=511 ~~ 512 (256*2)). Hopefully this made sense :)
Being imprisoned inside three Uzumakis might’ve been one of the reasons why Kurama gained a larger chakra pool. It doesn't matter how strong your jutsus are. If your chakra pool can only make one shadow clone, then all the other jutsus are useless if you can't execute them.
The answer is easy my man. Because Kishimoto never developed the other tailed beasts. The closest we got was the 8-Tails and some for Shukaku in Boruto. 😢
Now to be fair, Kurama being “the strongest” is fine, but by the margin the manga makes it out to be, its insane. Even if you do argue the mind controled beasts were resisting and not as strong
Yep kishimoto can't write or plan for shit. Looking back, Naruto was so bloody overrated. Good premise, but written poorly. Trash writing and trash planning riddled throughout
@@You-to-be to be fair. Naruto was written week to week during Jumps dark-age where they treated mangaka like shit. For what we got in Naruto, I am amazed it turned out as well as it did.
@@kyrudo fair point. Very fair point
Rip to Kurama a real one
Something I just thought about for baryon mode. If kurama was using his direct life energy to fuel that mode but another ability is that baryon mode kills the opponent by passively absorbing life energy from them then shouldn’t that mean constant regeneration for kurama the longer him and Naruto are in that state?
@@marlom7882 broo my mind is officially blown 🤯 I hope Baryon mode Naruto is in the Naruto storm connections game
I would argue that the age of the Jinchuriki and relationship between them and their tailed beast would also play a role in power scaling. Also take into consideration that the purpose of the Akatsuki was to specialize in capturing, not killing. Every member brought SOME kind of plus and then they had a partner that essentially covered that weakness.
Can’t also forget simple plot no jutsu.
Hagoromo used the math that is still yet to be known by mankind.
Most of the other Bijuu do seem like afterthoughts to me, compared to the Nine-Tails. Their designs also remind me more of weird Pokémon rather than demons or kaiju.
I preferred the way Part 1 was handling the lore of the beasts, as they were more like dangerous demonic spirits or something. There was some mystery and mysticism surrounding them, which all disappeared in Shippuden because everything had to be explained.
Because there are, clearly Kishi only thought of Kurama, but he has to make up everything else probably due to timelines of the manga, some designs are like .... Really? Like the 4 tails or that weird slug thing.
So not related to the video at all, but can everyone from Naruto and Boruto stop Pucci with Made in Heaven? Let's say you place all Naruto and Boruto characters in the ocean and Pucci is already accelerating time. For those who don't know, Made in Heaven has the power to manipulate gravity so much it accelerates time (it doesn't affect living beings) and grants the user a super speed (the speed will increase overtime as the time accelerating more and more). But it accelerates other objects like glass and knives. Not only that, Pucci can reset the whole universe.
Pucci has a lot of travel speed but his strength is weak, if Naruto gets hold of him once, he is probably dead, but if pucci can land a shit ton of hits while avoiding them he would win. I would say Naruto has the higher chance but I read p6 a long time ago si I might be wrong.
I assumed that the one tails was equal in power to 10% of the 10 tails and thus kurama would be 90% of its power but the math doesnt add up cuz how did 45% of the ten tails tie with more than 100% of the ten tails then after that i just got confused so this theory makes more sense to me
I want an anime series focusing on the pre wars period when jutsu were used for life enhancement rather than battle
Purely head cannon, but I wonder if the relative strength of the tailed beasts doesn't increase over time with the chakra levels of it's hosts. Then the relative strength of the clans having each received the strongest tailed beasts and having jinchuriki with relatively higher chakra levels amping their tailed beasts to varying degrees could be an explanation. The uzumakis being the pinnacle of enhancing your nine tails well past other nations
Actually, tailed beasts do remove their hosts chakra once transferred, so they do inherit their host's chakra, isn't that why the jinchuriki dies if the tailed beast is removed?
It more like balloon (jinchiruki) pop out/deflated after the air (bijuu) get out
The two tails is actually the weakest.
The pie chart is basically how I always understood it 😂
I always operated under the theory that each tailed beast was twice as strong as the tailed beast below it, meaning the 9 tails is slightly weaker than the other 8 combined.
That would be the trashest way to write that, and i don't wven think it is wrong.
Seeing how naruto with half of the kyuubi was already so overpowered.
Honestly naruto is just one cluster of trah writing when you look back at it with eyes wide open.
Imagine minato showing up with half of the nine tails chakra, fully capable of using it, despite dying the moment hw sealed it into himself.
Make it make sense.
@@You-to-be
bro he's jus like that because of the mythology
Calm down
@@chalbramwell5353 what mythology?
We saw trashruto struggle and almost die to control kyuubi, yet pops shows up and goes "hey there son, i too can go super saiyan".
Trash writing.
If every tailed beast had 2 times more chakra than the previous one, then the nine tails would have 256 times more chakra than the 1st tail .
Honestly what even is the point of it,
If you add up all the other tailed beasts together, they would be one chakra point less than the kyuubi, what is the point of such nonsense, if not to simple wank off naruto as the mane character?
@@You-to-be
hmmm in mythology/folklore the more tails they have the more powerful
Thats y 9 tails is that much stronger
@@You-to-be
"hey there son, i too can go super saiyan".
minato could do that becasue he had the good side of kurama (yang) and both the yin and yang r linked so they can both go into the same form
based on the number of tails they have shows there strength
since kurama has 9 tails with full chakra he can solo as of the bijuus
and its like that for all the others so 3 tails could solo the pervious 2 and 4 tails can solo the previous 3 etc
why do you always call Kurama 'her' or 'she'? I dont think it has a gender but if it was one or the other it would definitely be a dude
I don't know about that. Hehe.
A few problems with your stamtents. The power of all the tailed beast don’t go up by tail like you said considering Kisame had an extremely hard battle with the 4 tails yet didn’t seem as overwealmed by the 8 tails despite it having 4 more tails. Also Kakazu and Hidan struggled to capture the 2 tails but captured the 7 tails fine
Considering that the 9 Tails happens to have the most named characters fighting it (at minimum: Madara, Hashirama, Kinkaku & Ginkaku, Obito, Minato & Kushina), I believe this is the most likely explanation: it simply developed the most due to experiencing the most conflict
Compare this to 8 Tails that immediately got bodied by 3rd Raikage but actually got a good host that incorporated him in fights,
Or 6 Tails whose jinchuuriki preferred to run away from hunters albeit still was able to incorporate it when fighting back
Or 3 Tails that got sealed inside Rin before she...uhh...yeah...
Or 1 Tail that was sealed inside hosts so unwilling to use it that 1 guy was a literal monk and that his legend devolved into being some sort of angry spirit rather than an actual tailed beast
A lot of times the akatsuki referred to Naruto’s Jinchuriku as stronger than others, which backs up the idea that kurama is just way stronger than the others.
I always wondered if 100% Kurama is actually stronger than Tentails we saw in war arc
Im 100% sure the author didnt think even 10% of the details that are on this channel. Power of friendship is the most of thing for him
I think trying to explain this point from an in-universe perspective is a lost cause. The writer just did'nt think about all that. But Naruto needs to be strong to overcome stronger and stronger ennemy, so Kurama gets constantly buffed, the sharingan gets constantly bugg. ANd then the lore try to "adapt" to that new situation. But sometimes it is just bizarre and does not really fit with the universe.
Remember when the tailed beast could reform after sometimes when their jinchuriiki dies? Ahh... good times
I always got the feeling that they implied that kurama was supposed to be the protector of the tailed beasts. Thus, he was made significantly stronger
What does the fox say?
“You be well… Naruto”
I was always told by people that because it was the nine tails is battle experience and aggressive, ruthless personality
And Kurama is only beast that grants form with incredible speed.
To be fair, the 5 Tailed Beasts weren't in full control of themselves, therefore weren't at full power as well. So the 9-Tails' Biju Bomb cancelling their Biju Bomb could be that both sides weren't at full strength.
But that 9 tails was 50% of itself
What if when the tailed beasts were created Hagaromo just split the remaining juubi chakra in half? Would explain the pie chart theory if he started with creating Kurama first and worked his way down. The final part of the ten tails left would be the gedo mazo meaning Shikaku and the statue are around equal power which could be plausible as well.
It would also lend credence to why they needed to seal the beasts in the correct order as the gedo mazo could only hold as much chakra as it currently had. Which if its chakra was the same as the one tail, then each time one was absorbed it would double its chakra thus matching the next tailed beast in sequence.
Basically reversing what Hagaromo did.
I always thought of each tail as an exponential increase in power. It would make sense if that's the power scale.
in the manga minato's kurama avatar looks like normal kurama with the kurama avatar lines