What is the role of MERIT in Salvation? (w/ Jimmy Akin)
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- Do Catholics EARN their salvation? For Protestants, hearing Catholics talk about merit in relation to salvation can be a serious red flag. A few months ago I sat down with Jimmy Akin to discuss the Catholic view of Justification, and in this clip you can hear his thoughts on what Catholics means when they talk about merit.
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As a former evangelical protestant, the main focus of worship was singing and praising to God. It does affect us in a psychological manner which catholics and protestant tend to view the image of God differently. As I kept growing in my catholic faith I began to make connections how in the old testament the highest form of worship was making a sacrificial offering to God, now in the new covenant the ultimate sacrifice is what Jesus did on the cross. Another big misconception is the fact that no where in the Bible does it say to accept Jesus Christ in our hearts as personal lord and saver, but instead it does indicate that repentance and baptism now saves us. As a catholic our blessed Lord lives in my heart every day and especially when I do God's will and turn away from sin
@@gk7754 glad it was helpful🙂🙏
Interesting. I do believe some Protestants disagree with “accept Jesus in our hearts” though it is a good thing, but i think it’s unbiblical in terms of salvation
I’m Catholic but I agree that it’s important to have a personal relationship with Christ and accepting Him and your personal Lord and Savior, that’s fundamental to all Christians.
But I don’t believe that it alone saves you, you have to cooperate with God, walk with Him and live our your life according to Him. God through Christ has to sanctify you and make you Christ like, and you have to be willing to cooperate.
@@alexkkx Just want to clarify. Protestant believe that we are saved by faith alone, but not by a faith that is alone. Which means that the faith which saves is the faith that after which we have possessed it, immediately a change in the heart and good works will follow. Like how James said “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
James 2:24 ESV
So to wrap up, following God and try our best to obey Him is exactly what we Protestant do everyday (I'm talking about the one who truly have faith). But the main difference is this, Protestant do it because that's what pleases God, not to earn our salvation, for Christ died to saves us, not to give us the possibility of being save.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV
@@cuongnguyenviet3417 This sounds awfully similar to what we Catholics believe. Though we do not believe in eternal security. A person can loose their salvation if they decide to start away from Christ.
Austin, I highly recommend Dr. Michael Horton's two-volume work "Justification." It is ultra in-depth and really helped me understand the official, popular (but not official), and popular (and soon to be official) things happening in European Catholicism that contextualized the Reformation. It really strengthened my Reformational convictions on justification when I was on the edge of converting to Catholicism or Orthodoxy.
All the best :) God bless
Thanks for the recommendation!
And I recommend Bishop Fulton Sheen and Father Mike Schmitz.
I don't believe Christ abandoned the Church for 1500 years.
I truly believe God is working in your life.. God makes no mistakes and when he established his church 2000 years ago God knew what he was doing God bless🙏🙏
Cooperation with Grace. We are saved through Grace, from Jesus on the cross. Our part is cooperating with the Grace Jesus freely offers. There are a lot of terms Catholic terms that come from Latin but mean something else in English (“co” as a prefix is another one). This leads to confusion. That’s an issue with a 2000 year old Church that went through and made converts all over the world through that time. We are kinda like a good, freedom respecting Borg😄.
Cooperation = merit
This gives you room to boast.
But since God initiates that meritorious act and sustains you to do so. You cannot boast, only giving thanks to God for giving you those gifts.
This clip is extremely helpful, thanks Austin!
Interesting conversation
I suggest you have on:
Scott Hahn, Jeff Cavins, Steve Ray….
Good video! Congrats for your great work in this channel! Christ bless all of you! 🙏
Hi Austin, ty for all the great content, showing us the different types of Christianity and the way they interpret scripture and Divine revelation.
There are so many great theologians (but more importantly, close to holyness), that I would have love for you to interview like Fr Benedict Groeschel, Fr Andrew Apostoli, Fr Seraphin Michalenko, etc. Unfortunately this great ppl are not longer phisicaly with us. Would you please interview: Fr Rainerio Cantalamesa or Padre Jose Antonio Fortea (they are both fluent in english).
Hopefully this video will clear up some of the confusion I have about this treasury of merit. The idea seems so blasphemous…. Adding anyone else’s merit on top of Jesus’ is so foreign to me as a Protestant.
I have a very pragmatic view of merit. It’s not based in any deep theology. But making merit certainly can’t hurt - and it could just help. In essence, by doing good one is increasing good will, compassion and love in this crazy phenomenological world and that helps oneself and everyone. Even if by just a tiny bit. Like drops in a water glass, it adds up.
We are justified through Christ and we show our fealty to him by obeying his commandments. Salvation isn't through merely saying a few words that you "accept" Him. He expects of you to work in His fields. You merit by showing how good of work you do. The initial invitation comes through God freely giving you the grace of faith though. That may not be merited at all.
Excellent! See you at Mass. 😉😄🙏👍
For unless God rewarded good for evil, there would be none to whom He could reward good for good. Nowhere then let human pride raise itself up: God giveth good rewards unto His own gifts.
0:58 and 1:12
1:27 “Now, does that mean you earned those rewards? Well Protestants would say no. The only reason we get em’, cuz ya know, our puny little deeds don’t merit an eternal reward that we’re gonna enjoy for all eternity. And I can only do these good works because God gave me the grace to do them, so I’m not earning them. The only reason I get rewards is because God has promised them, so it’s really based on God’s promise.
And guess what? Catholic Church says the same thing.”
3:18
6:42
You should listen yo what he says again cause he didn’t say we earn it. That’s Protestant propaganda to cause division. I bet there are Christians that subscribe to prosperity gospels that believe they earn wealth through planting seeds. Hmmm. That’s more like Merit.
Honestly I think translation of words are at the bottom of most of these misunderstandings. For example in 1890 being “gay” ment extreme happiness. Now what does that word imply??
ll think after 2k years and multiple translations we lost the original meaning of words. Like merit or rewards. It makes sense to reap what a person sees. Etc. even in today’s world folks understand that and since GOD gave us free will we have to choose GOD but who leads us to this choice ??God. Hmmm do we reap because we follow Gods’ will but we follow Gods will because of Gods will ….do thank God and keep going. But I think everyone should stop dropping these words that are really misinterpreted Like merit and reward and only use them if the word is prefaced by the ORIGINAL definition as used 2 k years ago. Not the modern use.
@@sewmanyquilts8042 *looks around*
Did anybody say that was Jimmy’s position?
@@zekdom just my reflection as having been on both sides. Because I have looked around I don’t know who jimmy is.
What are you talking about. Never mind.
Did I say jimmy said that??! NO.
I guess your comment exemplifies the fact that most folks do nOT look any deeper than what pops in their own head …. Or I think. Therefore I am.. that’s silly stuff.
Everonecesnts to tell everyone else not only WHAT to say ,,, but THEY think you are saying even if it’s NzoT what you actually said.
Wow
and because of this using misunderstood words makes the problem worse. It’s like the game of telephone what one person says 2 k years ago gets lost in translation. Yikes. Have a nice day
@@sewmanyquilts8042 🤣 Have a great morning, friend!
“If he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile or a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven”
No one who knowingly and deliberately rejects the truth will be saved. It doesn’t matter how good of a Muslim, Jew, Baptist, or anything else he may be. If anyone rejects the truth of Christ and his Church-even one definitive teaching-they will be lost.
Religions that have as tenants of their respective faiths the rejection of Jesus and his Church have no power to save anyone.
These make very clear that anyone who is ever saved is not saved by his or her false religious beliefs (i.e. Judaism that rejects Christ, Islam that denies Jesus is the Son of God, etc.); rather, they can be saved in spite of them.
Those who are “invincibly” ignorant concerning the truth will not be culpable for this lack of knowledge before God.
Those outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church can be “related to the Mystical Body of the Redeemer by a certain unconscious yearning and desire”. They can be saved, but “they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church,” and are, unfortunately, in a “state in which they cannot be sure of their salvation.” - A person can possibly have a link with Christ and his Church in various ways, some of which are known to God alone.
St. Paul, we leave the judging of who is invincibly ignorant and who is not to God.
The bottom line is: the straight and narrow road that leads to heaven is not an easy road to begin with, even for those gifted with the fullness of truth found in the Catholic Church alone.
But without the Church and sacraments Christ has provided as a means for our sanctification, it is even more difficult. They have the obvious advantages for the overcoming of the “sin which does so easily beset us”, which Catholics enjoy in the sacraments.
The term merit has two definition reward as good benefit.. Reward as punishment.. Merit is a general term recompense owe CCC#2006.. merit is relative to the virtue of justice..
Christ he humbly accepted his reward as punishment on the cross. Christ became man in Jesus bcoz only an infinite being could make satisfaction for an infinite offense against Gods justice the result of Adam's sin... Titus 3:5:6-7
By the merits of Jesus Christ only, and that through baptism the merits of Christ are applied...Titus after we recieved baptism partakers by grace in the divine nature we to cooperate Gods grace by good works titus 3:8-9.. the merit of good works is to be attributed in the first place to the grace of God, then to the faithful.. 7:37 7:37
There is no merit in salvation, it is pure grace as Paul clearly states. To the extent there is any merit it comes in after salvation during the process of sanctification. You cannot earn your way into Heaven. And Paul also clearly states that any works done outside of Christ merit nothing, such that, once again, merit (good works and their fruit) is always, always, always, subsequent to the work and merit of Christ.
Coopetation my brother, cooperation with Grace is everything.
@@ninodjuras AFTER justification. Then you can cooperate. If you're cooperating then you've already been justified. Entirely, wholly, and completely by Christ such that the works you do (the cooperation) is now done with and through the power of the Holy Spirit who enables you to cooperate.
Whether before or after justification we are called to have Faith, or to Trust our LORD. We are called to Trust Him on day one and then continue to Trust Him every day after and more deeply every day.
Can we all agree on this?? :)
@@pete3397 Whether before or after justification we are called to have Faith, or to Trust our LORD. We are called to Trust Him on day one and then continue to Trust Him every day after and more deeply every day.
Can we all agree on this?? :)
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