Trainee Instructor Group "Breaking the Habit"
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2021
- Follow log with a Trainee Instructor Group "Breaking the Habit" - A common problem is bracing or using the outside ski when attempting to steer and control speed and line. Today I attempt to not only make the group aware of this issue but also try to instal a new feeling in less than 2 skis runs.
The theme of the lesson is "exaggeration" - I have found over decades of training in sport that this is one of the best tools we have as coaches when dealing with new skills.
In todays lesson I am careful to control the flow of information and I withhold often some important positive and negative side-effects of what they do. Too often we want to point out all the obvious errors a student makes instead of focusing on the task in hand and the outcome of that task alone.
00.00 - Intro
00.51 - Start of Lesson.
01.10 - Students make a parallel turn.
03.25 - The theme of the lesson is explained
06.25 - Trainer demo.
07.00 - Students copy.
10.30 - Further explanation.
11.45 - The problem with a Hockey Stop
13.35 - Why flexion is so important especially for those who have limited range of movement
16.00 - Funnel Turn
17.39 - Tall people favour extension.
21.00 - Short Turn demo.
27.10 - my boots are actually not done up.
28.50 - A drill to prevent over extending and disconnecting.
32.30 - Conclusion.
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Thanks for following a long with the lesson. As ever there are no fixed ways to pass on productive information when coaching and it would be great to hear about your success stories and your failures so we can learn how to be more engaged with our athletes.
I'm 82 years old and have been a student of the sport for a long time. This is the single best 36 minutes of ski instruction that I have ever seen. You could pay hundreds, even thousands of dollars, for ski instruction and not top these 36 minutes!
Thank you Pat for massaging my "ego" haha! I shall now charge appropriately and hope that with the money I can ski till I am 82 years old. Great to have you on board.
goggles up, nice ski instructor, visual contact very important
2:50 This was the best one. Notice the vertical upper body which helps to pull up and unload the inside leg so it can remain parallel to the turning ski which she can be completely balanced on. 3:19 All the rest made like an airplane, banking their shoulders into the turn which loaded the inside ski too much so the outside turning ski had no control of the turn.
A vertical upper body that is facing and leaning down the hill while you quickly change your weight from your downhill to your uphill ski, will allow the skis to turn as designed. It also keeps skiing very simple, and the moves are easy to remember. "I want to go straight down the hill, get off my right foot. I want to go straight down the hill, get off my left foot."
His explanation of the problem doesn't explain it at all. They aren't "Pushing" the turning ski away from them, they are leaning into the turn too much which loads the inside ski too much and the turning ski slides away and down the hill because there isn't enough weight on it. So, it Looks Like a push but isn't.
You don't steer the ski with your foot to make it turn, you just balance on it and IT will make the turn which will turn your feet.
All that up and down business explains and teaches nothing. Again, you have to fix the upper body positioning by keeping it simple. Imagine your hands are on the handlebars of a bicycle. When you want to make a turn, point the front tire down the hill and quickly change your weight and balance to the uphill foot. You don't think about turning, you just think about what the skis require from you to allow the skis to make the turns for you.
6:30 This is ridiculous. Skiing made hard. This doesn't teach any of the body movements in skiing. The weight change motion, that he isn't even teaching, is not an Up motion it is a down the hill motion. from a balanced position on the turning ski, you stop the direction across the slope with that turning ski and face and lean it down the hill. The skis keep going but the leg angle changes, and the skis roll over to make the new turn. I'm done. I don't have to see anymore. The world's ski instructors see skiing backwards, so their teaching methods are backwards. It's as simple as that.
Doing the training with SIA year or so ago, the training and level of difference to your ability after is huge…. For those watching, or who have already skied - it’s breaking down bad habits and learning to be technical. 6 weeks of training is night and day difference to your skiing ability. Especially when everything is completely broken down to your individual skiing too. Must say a big shout out to Ed and Jamie, Probably some of the best instructors I’ve been taught by too….. Paul, you should get Jamie to explain the warm up does before each Lesson, when he does a follow the leader. Ps, I’m sure he’ll remember the ‘dream team/ Golden oldies’ too and same with Ed😂
Damn, I've been skiing since the age of 4 and also skied competitively in Switzerland for a decade, still managed to get useful tips, passion comes a long way 👍
I am so happy to be useful.
I really like that the students don’t understand maybe half of what he is talking about, but for us here sitting behind the screen and with probably more experience and knowledge everything seems so logic and natural, especially when he speaks about the physics involved in skiing.
Thanks for the input Kristian!
I like that way of explaining and correcting the problem. I have good experiences with breathing and waiting for the skis coming under the hip. But giving the idea of moving against a resistance (on the makro-level) is maybe one of the reasons why your meta-teaching-method works so well.
Wow, I would consider these skiers no more than intermediate level skiers. Even having them ski for a month straight, they would still not be at a satisfactory level to teach other skiers. I have taught many clinics for people wanting to be ski instructors, but these skiers don't have any idea of a sound balanced position or even using pressure and edge angle to define the turn shape.
In this case, video taping them and seeing how they are skiing compared to the standards that are expected at various levels of certification might be very helpful. I have taught or coached (racing) many skiers and the most difficult skiers to teach are at the intermediate/advanced level where there are so many bad movements that must be discarded. It sometimes is overwhelming. In many instances, teaching beginning skiers is more rewarding than working with people that have been skiing advanced slopes for years and have a whole fundamental toolbox missing. I'm sure you have seen the grimaces of supposed advanced skiers that want to improve in difficult terrain and you tell them you (we) have to go to the bunny slopes and start over and get down the basics. You have more patience than I do, and I have seen many of your videos do a great job of educating skiers.
These skiers are definitely at the beginning end of intermediate and this is why Thez need training before the exam. I think that you comments raise some interesting points that I will tackle on a future podcast to answer in more detail. Thanks for follow us.
I've just discovered your channel and wow, incredible quantity and quality both of information. This video in particular is helpful to see you coaching on the go, and responding to the students' skiing. Thank you very much!
We are pleased to have you on board and look forward to hearing your comments.
Just discovered this video, and I LOVE IT! Yes, I love the studio chats and, this was a lot more practical being able to see the students and their differences along with your instructions. Often, I found myself listening and analyzing the task in each student as if I was at the bottom watching each one of my class come down. Thinking about the development of each one, I was planning a path for each one going forward. Thank you for this; more like this, please.
Glad it was helpful!
Pure Gold!
Very good drill going up and down while making the turns. Especially for getting the timing right. Also tension and flex together.
I’m far from professional skiing and do it just some days per year (live in Brazil). However I do love studying to improve my techniques as I love the sport as well. And this is one of the best videos I’ve ever watched with such content. Some things that I have “clicked” by figuring out myself I was able to see you explaining through physics, which is awesome! An example is putting some weight to the back of the skis which you explain through the exaggeration to 0 and 8.5…
Almost felt like I was there in the slopes being your student 😅
Thanks for your work! Wish I was your student one day 😁
love this one! Actually I love all your videos! You explain the technique so clear so precise! Hopefully I will have chance to attend your class.
It would be great to see you in the future.
Thanks for this experience. My addition might be to offer an avantage to turning since the task of "ski poles in gut" is taking away full body extension, perhaps add a focus of flexion and extension in the ankle/foot to help them out.
Thanks for the comment.
I am an intermediate skier trying to improve an videos pushes like these are wonderful. Even if in theory I might known what to do, on the skis things happen too fast so exercises like these are very important. Thanks for sharing. Who knows, maybe at some point I will knock at your door to get things further - these videos are very motivating.
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Thanks for the feedback and comment.
I appreciate all the effort you put into skiing and education. Obviously these folks arent at the level where they can finish a turn crisply in the aft position and very quickly retract feet topple and repeat but it's awesome to see them (and me) pushed in that direction at this point. I also love the recertification of skiing as sport and not just a fun sled...so easy to fall into that trap. Enjoy the channel txvm.
Thanks for the comment and the recognition that skiing is a sport.
Top ski video of the year. Really appreciate this video. I’m in my last year of high school, where I specialize in physics & math.
And this video gave me a realization of how understanding the physics; in how torque is created through levers in skiing, will make you a great skier.
I never thought of how applying the classic mechanics of physics, could give a better intuition of how we turn in skiing.
Looking forward to my ski instructor cause with you next year.
Stay tuned in for more! Thanks and see you soon
Isn't this the whole concept behind not learning how to ski in a wedge since it reinforces the pushing of the outside ski? The basic teaching that Harold Harb has been harping all along I might add? 😊 "
Great video!
oh this is good! especially when video you from behind
Fantastic movement analysis! 👏
Well done 👍
@@riccapatrol Thanks!
@@SIAAustria you are most welcome, keep up the great channel 🎿
Paul, you talked about staying in a flexed position at the start of the turn and using gravity, and I think you also said, centripetal force to turn the skis down the hill. How do recommend to add in toppling at turn initiation? In your opinion, does the toppling movement require an active extension? Perhaps you can cover that topic in a future video. Thank you. //Marshall
Sounds like a good idea. What I can do is cover this topic in Argentina when skiing to better demonstrate the principle and also to look at some ways to help adapt to this movement style. Thanks Marshall.
Super vidéo, well explained! 👍
Thanks
Hi Paul, could you please explain what exactly does the downward and upward motion do on the turn ? This wasn't clearly explained in the video from 10:23 on wards. And thanks for sharing this.
Let me explain in more detail on a future video as it is not so obvious.
This is amazing. One of your best content recently because we can see it applied.
Thanks a bunch!
Ps: how would you argument this to the group, that skiing is tiring? Why shouldn't it be easier and easier?
I can speculate that, yes it's tiring, but you get a lot of control on the steeps, which you didn't have until now; but would like to see your thought.
Best,
E
Thanks for the comment and your questions. I shall try to include the answers in a future podcast and video so I can be more detailed.
Thanks so much. Looking forward! Cheers
Liking this new section to the SIA channel, and hoping to see some more demos of your teaching philosophy in future. But was a wee bit surprised at the students' level of skiing, thinking people going on an instructor course would already be in the advanced category. Is there no minimum standard to join the course?
We actually have complete beginners do our program but they simply do more time in training before the exam. You need to remember that these guys are just starting in their ski career and have at least another 18 days to complete before they take the practical exam. With the expertise of the SIA Team we can get this standard of skier to the level if they remain focused. All of these skiers would not pass the exam at their current level but after another few weeks they will make the necessary changes to reach their goal.
very good and useful methods for increasing proprioception!… and i only arrived in the middle of the video… but !!!
Thanks for the feedback
why are slopes so crowded 😂
Drowning in information and starving for wisdom. K I S S,
What level are these guys?
They are trainees. They are just starting the first day of a ski instructor course. Most have between 8 and 10 weeks experience.
@@SIAAustria so is this from the anwarter course?
In this case it was but it could be relevant to any other qualification or skier in general.