Retro Review: eMachines M6805
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Some corrections I thought I’d post since I made this video. Turns out it does in fact have a second RAM slot, it just requires the entire computer to be entirely disassembled to get to it (which is still stupid). It can take up to a max of 2GB RAM (most that is physically possible with DDR). Also it’s got 2 cooling fans in it yet none of them cool the GPU at all, it’s entirely passively cooled, which doesn’t seem that great. Just eMachines things.
thanks for the video. XP still a thing. please, try Mypal68 in future videos for such rigs test browsing. you'd like it)
he should also try Supermium, a fork of chromium that can run on windows 2000+ @@Al6bus
Are you sure? It's very possible to get 2GB sticks of DDR SODIMMs. Some computers just do not like to boot with them, like my Dell Precision M20, which will not boot with more than 2GB (2x1GB SODIMMs) installed.
I find the thought interesting that someone will make a video like this in 20 years about the M1 macbook.
"The world's first ARM64 MacBook"
18.5v adapters were moderately annoying when I was working at a repair shop in the early 2010s. We regularly needed universal adapters and crossed our fingers when they’d check in a machine without a power cord…
Thought they would list the input voltage/amps on the bottom of the laptop, or atleast the few that I had did
@@ashii_ii Most do to this day. The laptop in this video required 4.9 amps at 18.5 volts which comes to 74 watts which was astronomical for a laptop manufactured in 2004. Nowadays you could use a laptop as your main computer but back in 2004 you needed a beefy desktop computer for the best computer experience.
"2 inches long. I mean it works, I guess..."... You and my wife would get along.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this way
I bought my first 64bit Laptop at December in 2003.
It was the Yakumo Q8M Power64 XD with AMD Athlon 64 3000+ mobile and ATI 9600.
The laptop was in November 2003 available.
Such an interesting laptop!! Early 64 bit is such a weird thing but cool thing to look at. Also also I truly am liking your videos a lot. Keep up the good work!!!
Gotta love the amount of I/O so hard to find that nowadays
I recently found your channel and have been looking forward to the uploads every week!! I love that you cover this era of 2000s computers, it's the exact era I grew up in (mid Gen Zer) and I've never really seen anyone else give them the love they deserve. Keep it up!! :)
Thank you!
you figured LGR would cover this first but i am glad you did it first. i really appreciate your video and how informative it is.
this reminds me of a time when my dad back in the 00s would complain how 64bit laptops were for "spoiled rich kids" who can't use a desktop. this of course was an era when he had a Dell PDA and thought he was on top of the world.
This laptop surely brings back memories!
I was the proud owner of this laptop during my high school days after my dad owned it for a year and a half for the purposes of testing the then newfangled Windows XP 64-bit beta from Microsoft. It was my faithful companion throughout my studies and I was easily the coolest kid on the bus.
Love these old laptop types of videos bro ❤️
Good video so far, really happy with that profile picture.
For 04', that's a pretty futuristic looking device. Has some beef too, I never knew about this.
"first laptop was ever manufactured" :) Fun fact, this design looks identical to one HP/Compaq made. I had a compaq presario with Athlon XP M back in the day, my first new laptop. And it looks to be identical other than some cosmetic changes. I bet the emachine was manufactured for HP, or vice versa. They may just be extremely similar, I'll have to look into it!
All of these machines come from the same companies - Quanta, Compal, Sager, Clevo. This is why so many laptops are near identical despite being from different manufacturers - they all originated with the same OEMs.
I bought one of these new with the DVD burner. Still have it. Hinge failure is quite common.
Good job on the video
I remember these coming out under Emachines branding was odd. They were OEMed by Arima, who actually made some high end systems for Alienware and the like.
2:45 My T430: "Right! What he said...."
I happen to also have a laptop from 2004. It's an HP Pavilion dv1000 (particularly the dv1207us model), which my grandpa gave me. It's pretty cool, and everything in it works just fine aside from the internal speakers, which I have not been able to get functioning at all since I got it. The laptop seems to do quite well with games like Half-Life, The Sims, and SimCity 4, and I've even gotten it running Minecraft.
Also, you registered the Windows XP installation as Steve Jobs? XD
8:20 i have a samsung R540 laptop with a phoenix bios and it also has that summary screen, it can be disabled in bios.
Part of the reason your optical drive was constantly throwing errors and was so slow could be because you were trying to use a CD-R on a very old ATA drive that doesn't like recordable media.
Granted, this issue may have been more common with even older SCSI-based, full-sized drives rather than ATA.
really strange the first 64 bit laptop has effectively the mark of shame on it
that's like Mad Katz making a high end e-sports controller.... oh wait
Kinda want that laptop now
Nice machine!
Usually, laptop motherboards have one SODIMM underneath the keyboard, and one on the bottom. You should be able to easily remove the keyboard by just removing a few screws on the bottom.
omg encarta
i haven't seen that interface since like 2008!!
I have one of those . . well, a slightly different spec'd model but . . Anyway, mine was dead slow until I repasted it. The paste was like chalk, fan ran at warp speed 24/7. The other DIMM slot is under the keyboard, and it's replaceable. I put 4GB total (2x2GB) in mine and an M.2 SATA SSD in an IDE enclosure and put 64bit Mint 18.1 on it and runs much better. Did you know that these mobile processors are single channel memory only. Yep, even tho there's two dimm slots, its single channel. Now I want to go get it and fire it up. Play Star Trek: Legacy on it.
I miss emachine. It was my first windows 7 computer.
Great video! I was personally hoping to see some Linux mint install but ah well.
This is NOT the first 64-bit laptop in the world. Maybe the first for home consumers but not the first. 64-Bit CPUs goes way back and was big in the 90's. SGI, Sun Microsystems, DEC, HP, Compaq, and IBM all had 64-Bit Unix Workstations and Servers. Even the Nintendo 64 from 1996 uses a 64-Bit CPU. A company called Tadpole Computer made UNIX based laptops based around SPARC, DEC Alpha, and IBM PowerPC CPUs (along with x86 CPUs also). One of the laptops was the Tadpole SPARCLE and the SPARCbook line that came out before this eMachine. Both ran the UltraSPARC IIe CPU which is 64-bit. These laptops may not even be the first, but came out before this eMachine laptop.
That’s fair. I was almost certain something like that existed. I was very skeptical reading articles that said it was the first
NEEEEEERD, nobody cares about stuff like that. Of course some obscure either pro or military tech will always exist years before
Perhaps the first x64 at least though.
Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 came out a year later, I wonder if it would benefit with this OS. I recall computers being advertised with 64bit processors and the manufactures installed Vista 32bit in 2007.
It was no coincidence that eMachines made that and not Compaq, Acer or Toshiba for example because Intel had contracts with them. That was uncovered later and Intel got a fine for it.
Note that this is still 32-bit Windows XP, meaning you are running all 32-bit applications
Windows 7 or 64-bit XP or modern Linux might be nice
Learned this from @CathodeRayDude ,but any IDE CDROM/DVD Drive should slot in to the cd/dvd rom bay assuming the bottleneck doesn't come down to UMA
@betapyteag Mate that is a Win98 dream retro machine. Perhaps one of the most powerfull mobile retro setups.
Fun-Fact: The GPU in this is also in the last G series iMac from Apple, the G5 (which I have one of), and it's surprisingly good for older games.
I also have a couple (bit of an understatement) machines and one of them is a later eMachines E640, and it's very similar in build to this machine but on the plus side it has dual channel RAM which is nice, and it's actually one of the better retro laptops I own. As for the sound quality, the best one I have (and highly recommend) is a Compaq Armada M300 with the optional base station, and it has superb audio, especially for a 90s machine. :D
This one apparently also has a second ram slot, but requires full teardown to get access to
@@tezcanaslan2877 Ah, that makes sense. These machines tend to require at the very least a partial teardown, but some, like my more modern machines, are an absolute pain as they require full teardowns. Awesome video by the way! Only just found your channel, and I'm glad I did. :D
love it already.. my mx6422 laptop from gateway has onboard at graphics and amd sempron mobile cpu
That might have been e waste when it was produced, and is even more so today. One of the few laptops even linux can’t save
@@tezcanaslan2877 emachines oem windows xp will save it
I remember getting my first 64bit processor some athalon, I thought it meant the thing would be way faster, it wasn't lol
Anyone know who built laptops for eMachines? I sorta assume they were semi-custom models from someone like Clevo?
I think gateway used this case design after the buyout. I have a gateway 7330GZ that has a nearly identical case, it just has a pentium 4 board in it instead. *EDIT* didn’t watch the rest of the video.
Hah, I remember having this. Goddamn I feel old.
Ah the bejeweled twist music
Yes... that keyboard looks really weird. Back then.... laptop had plenty of keys and bottons to please the user... which also annoyed lots of users.
Probably you cna install Win XP 64-bit, Vista x64 or Win 7 x64 on it :)
Does it support ATA or SATA?
If there's SATA bus, you can replace SATA HDD with SATA SSD.
Literally equal to my 2020 acer nitro 5 BIOS, it's exactly like this one omg hahaha
Did you just using Bejeweled Twist background music?
the og psp has flatout 2 14:39
If this is the first 64 bit laptop then it should run windows 10 but it’s ram has to be maxed out to run windows 10
sounds perfect for a 128GB SSD try and upgrade the ram to 1GB and then put windows xp 64 bit on it.
How's a Linux distro on there with upgraded RAM? Maybe Elive or Bodhi Linux?
it cant take more then 768mb
Archlinux with xfce would already use around 450mb of that, so prolly wont be a great experience. Launching firefox would fill up the ram.
Tiny Core will run on this. System requirements are the lowest that I see on any "modern" Linux OS.
@@cookies5129 Max is 1GB
@@cookies5129 there is a second ram slot, 1 GB isn’t out of question
how da hek did bejweled of all things crash it that hard??
Since this is the first 64-bit laptop, why didn't you try installing a 64-bit operating system on it :>
What is the point of 64 bit and less than 4gb of system ram?
Why didn't you use Windows Professional x64-Bit Edition? It was MADE for laptops like this...
if you think thats a simple bios try a Sony Vaio vgn-nw20ef S, THIS DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING ELSE THAN 4 BASICS
I couldn't hear the fans because of my 2015 macbook overheating loll
Try XP x64 and see if it runs better should have most of the drivers.
Add an SSD and hack to add a cooler to the GPU.
are you already trying installing Windows XP 64 bit on it ?
Interesting. I thought Itanium came first.
90’s had a lot of 64 bit at the enterprise side of things
@@tezcanaslan2877 Very true.
I got stuck at Itanium because at the time Intel wanted it to be the successor to x86
Not quite the world's first 64-bit laptop. A British company called Tadpole released a laptop with a (64-bit) DEC Alpha CPU in 1995. They also made laptops with Sparc & PowerPC CPUs. They were proper laptops (not merely luggable/portable computers) and were aimed at users who needed portable Unix workstations.
the fact you didn't cleaned and repasted it before testing games is probably why it didn't perform so well, it was likely thermal-throthling, also that's why it crashed later on, and the GPU artifacted, you almost fried it to death
no. it has a terrible heatsink.
@@betapyteag ok, but have you disassembled the fan from the heatsink? it's really common for dust carpets to form inbetween the fan shroud and the heatsink, and the only way to spot and remove it is by disassembling the fan, completely separating it from the heatsink
yes. after the video was done I disassembled the entire laptop, cleaned the heatsink and repasted the processor. The GPU heatsink is tiny and separated from the main heatsink and isn’t being cooled by a fan at all. so even after cleaning it out as best as I could it still has issues because the GPU cooling is just poor to begin with.
@@betapyteag yeah, makes sense, that thing wasn't really meant for gaming i'd guess
First PCs And Laptops With 64-bit Intel Are:
iMac
MacBook Pro
MacBook
Mac Pro
nuh uh, apple only started to use 64bit in around 2008, where did you pull this from?
*It's an automated Apple A.I. CZcams bot. Burn it!* 🔥😂
As a long time Apple user. This is not true.
@@vanevo897 Well, you are also wrong. They used it before 2008. First iMac, MacBook Pro, and MacBook with Intel 64-bit CPU was 2006 with the Core 2 Duo. The Mac Pro in 2006 with Xeon 64-Bit CPUs. The Mac Mini was 2007 with a 64-Bit Core 2 Duo CPUs. Any Intel Macs with Core Solo or Core Duo were only 32-Bit.
@@joshua8389 shit you're right, I forgot about the 2006 iMac (well I ain't the only one)
64bit is pointless until you get past 4gb of ram
in 2000 the pentum 4 came out 64 bit processor
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My external dvd drive is better and it is bad
Can it play discs?
@@tezcanaslan2877 oh ya
Gosh, boy you can complain.
Nice video, but dude, you need to trim your nails. 😁
he looks familiar...