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- Stefan Borson updates talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan on Chelsea's financial investigation.
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The guy in the middle just wants something controversial to be said đ
Jim tries to find controversy in everything. Itâs why heâs perfect for talksport
Jim is a piece
Chelsea have admitted to this, they reported themselves
The presenter Karen
â@@bobricks9380and they still cheated and will be punished.
So the guy who falsely told us that Chelsea has to sell at least 100 mil before 30.6. or will be doomed is now telling us that Chelsea are doomed... without any precedent or clear info. đ
Heâs a hack mate!! Sticks the knife into Chelsea at every opportunity but defends city with his lifeđ
It's baseless waffle, I'm not sure how I ended up here tbh
Judging how Chelsea sold hotel, i think he wasn't wrong base on surface numbers. He didn't have clear info that Chelsea were far more sketchy
He has an agenda
They did sell about ÂŁ100m worth of players
The title should be "Man city spokesman accuses Chelsea of possible wrongdoing"đđđđ
Yeh. The only club to fail FFP is MUFC.
Two wrongs don't make a right and..
City and Chelsea are wronguns
Both as bad as each other. Pay2win plastic football clubs.
Artificial and soulless
You even listen? Chelsea themselves have admitted this.
â@derangedwowed chelsea has history before abromovich. Stop it. We are not the same as city.
If Chelsea aren't in trouble, there is no rules worth talking about.
Illegal transfer payments were against the rules before there was even a PL. They've breached the rules it's just not part of the FFP/PSR regulations because it was already against the rules. Make no mistake it's every bit as serious as the City allegations: Sporting advantage, multiple titles, CLs all those elements are there.
When Luton had a 30 points penalty, 10 of those were for breaches that had been made by previous owners and brought to the attention of the authorities by the new owners.
Stefan the Rory of football finance
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Perfectly said
Well said
Everything this guy says about Chelsea turns out to be the opposite, always
Chelsea really hurt this guy somehow , he canât let it go.
How? Everything heâs come out and said has turned out to be 100% fact and is spot on đ you are clueless
@@Fbdhdbrbdjxndo you like defamation lawsuits?
i already thought they were buying so many players to prepare for a transfer ban
đ that would definitely explain the length of the contracts
The things he is saying about chelsea have been admitted by them. Hidden payments to players is a lot worse than just going over ffp.
There must be a better pundit for commentary on PSR than Borson
United ÂŁ1 billion in debt and still spending like a drunken sailor.
What are you on about! They got no money left. They have to loan players with obligation to buy for next season. I got more in my account then Man Utd do right now.
@@nicholasharding8349 2nd highest net spend this window in the prem but apparently have "no money", interesting.
To put it in context, chelsea who apparently spend insane money every week is 4th.
Just waiting for the Chelsea protection squad to turn up who will react to the title of this video, wont watch it, then come out with some nonsense...
There's 1 already
Whatâs your point? Chelsea made dodgy payments, the new owners found them - self reported them. End of story. Stop looking for arguments online đđ
The irony coming from you hahaha
â@@rickywheeler9335all ur trophies under abramohvic are stained
@@georgebrady5369cry more
This was a self-reported case from the days of Roman... clickbait.. Stefan here is only deflecting limelight away from Man City..
Doesn't matter. You don't get to go without punishment if you reported that you killed someone.
Chelsea will definitely be punished, maybe less punishment cause they reported it
â@@yemi9196That analogy doesn't really work
@@yemi9196You miss the point... this story has been reported on many times in the past, so what's the point talksport?.. I see the example you gave but believe it frankly to be a bit dramatic, don't you think? I agree, as a self-reported case you'd think the FA would be more lenient.
@@Parky_1712đđđ
Authority:There was a murder in this house before you bought it.
Chelsea:Yes there was, in fact we had reported that before we bought the house, that there was a murder here.
Authority:Thank you for reporting and letting us know.
YOU ARE NOW UNDER ARREST FOR MURDER THAT TOOK PLACE ON YOUR PROPERTY⊠BEFORE you owned the property đ
@@Just2GdTobiTrue Haha, yeah that's exactly it
Theyâve got several players on over ÂŁ200k or even over ÂŁ300k a week they donât want or are always injured, sterling, Lukaku, chilwell and JamesâŠ
@@Cornwall1888 James ain't.
That's not true. The players you mentioned are the only ones and even then the average wage bill for Chelsea went from ÂŁ200,000 per week on average to ÂŁ60,000 per week.
You donât know what youâre talking about keep ur mouth quiet
@@loz501 he said Chelsea have several players on 200k+.
Just because the average wage is 60k doesnât make the former statement incorrect
Lukaku is on his way to Napoli, Chilwell has been told to look for a new club if he wants to play football and Sterling will be forced out aswell by the looks of it, the days of Chelsea paying big wages are done
Can we get a better expert please
@jonnycotton3217 Surely it's much easier to write I don't like man city so I don't like Borson. Get a grip and realise how knowledgeable and objective he is
You mean one that doesn't tell the truth.
Why?
It's nonsense that he doesn't tell the truth for anyone who actually listens. When he's making a prediction, he makes it clear. I do or don't see... this occurring because of this argument based on this rule. Like when he thought Chelsea might end up in breach of the break even limit... This was simple maths, he was aware they could sell players, that they could ask for exceptions... Chelsea selling hotels and training grounds to give themselves wiggle room is not something many people were expecting. Also with the United exceptions, he was proven correct, he did raise valid unanswered questions which United only answered part of. The PL were the ones who he was asking, he has always said every club has the right to fight it's case, to ask for any exceptions they think they are due. UEFA denied United all the ones they applied for with them and nobody thinks the PL still has to explain why they gave United so much more slack than anyone else.... Seriously, so many City haters are exposing how full of manure they've always been when it comes to these matters, it's equal parts satisfying to infuriating.
By 'better' do you mean one that doesn't suggest that Chelsea could be penalised...?
Ill be honest, my gut feeling is, Chelsea will get another transfer ban. Makes sense, considering their scatter gun for buying players lately
They need saving from themselves
That's the thing I don't get. This narrative is getting old and doesn't have any solid basis to it. Chelsea won't get a transfer ban because of buying too many players. It's been well established that they have been on the right side of PSR and have taken their average wage under Abramovich from ÂŁ200,000 per week to ÂŁ60,000 per week. Why do many people seem to just ignore this fact. It's more likely that Chelsea will get a transfer ban based on the self-report they did on the financial discrepancy they apparently found after the new ownership took over from Abramovich.
Chelsea reported these findings themselves when Clearlake took over, with that said the punishment will not be what people think it will be, if they had tried to hide it then itâs a different story.
I believe itâs already been communicated to Clearlake, hence the spending now
Yeah, transfer ban from UEFA, I agree
This is the same gentleman I believe that said months ago Chelsea would reach PSR for this year, Chelsea did not. I said at the time said and I will say it again. If he was really a expert on football financing he would probably be working for a club as we speak. He obviously could not creatively think of a way around the rules which is why he's commentating about them on talksports.
He said chelsea will need to make 80mil profit to keep within psr and Chelsea sold assets in order to keep within that so how exactly was he wrong? Yes they didn't sell players to do it like he thought but Chelsea have an abundance of mediocre players so it was a reasonable choice
I like how simon totally gave this man all his answers after his pointless initial rantđ
3:17 Chelsea fans deleting their âMan Cityâ tweets đđđ
Why? Man City's situation is far more egregious - and Chelsea actually owned up to this breach
@@adamross1992 because they got caught out in a sale when financial accounts then become public domain. Have you read all 115 charges? Didnât think so. Only about 35 are different and rest of the 115 is a repeated request. Also less than 10 are to do with finances and all of them are from over a decade ago
@@soapboxparishrecordings5287Chelsea fans already knew about these impending charges though� They literally grassed on themselves ages ago
@@soapboxparishrecordings5287 Chelsea's violation spoken about in this video took place during the Roman era - Chelsea's current owners disclosed the violation without the Premier League discovering it themselves - by contrast, Man City's violations took place under their current ownership and the club is vigorously disputing each alleged violation - I think it's pretty apparent why the Premier League will view these situations as diametrically opposed to each other lol - Chelsea have a breach in their past but in no way is it like Man City's
@@adamross1992 I mean if you wanna play this gameâŠ. 95% of Man Cityâs charges are pre 2013. Chelseaâs latest charge is up to 2020.
Every time this guy predicts something about Chelsea's financial situation, the exact opposite happens. Why doesn't he comment instead on Citeh's pending charges? And some of the charges are from during the timeframe he was employed as 'advisor' to Citeh. Why doesn't he explain how many charges his 'advice' directly or indirectly contributed to?!
Even is Spain we know this is a truly disgraceful football club that must be thrown out of the league for this
What a joke comment in Spain two of the most corrupt clubs in football history pathetic
Not saying he's correct, but everything he's said has been incorrect đ
Chelsea fans angry they dont want to hear the truth
It's nonsense though. Chelsea have made 200m in sales and that's before shipping Sterling, Chilwell, Chalobah, Lukaku, Kepa... Plenty of sellable assets.
Erm we do want the truth but this hobbit has been wrong time and time again.
The owners reported the "truth". Don't expect to get the "truth" from media outlets like talksport and especially people like Stefan.
The man city shill is at it again.
Itâs not a sporting advantage to make a payment one way which you could have made another. Itâs certainly wrong and punishable but there is no accusation or evidence that Chelsea made the payments the way they did so as to avoid PSR issues. They did it in a brown paper bag under the table fashion to sweeten the deal.
I could see a transfer ban being a reasonable punishment for that offence - a points deduction? No chance.
Also, a transfer ban is a sporting sanction. It isnât a fine - not being able to add to your squad is a footballing sanction that affects team performance. Why he would think the only sporting sanction is a points deduction is beyond me.
Are you joking? They purposefully set out to break the rules and committed fraud in doing so.
They'll be lucky not to be kicked out of the league. The only thing that may save them is they self reported.
They need a transfer ban for their own good, this current owner is absolutely nuts
Not quite correct here Stefan, he claims sporting penalty for Everton for sporting advantage, the commission admitted no sporting advantage, so we got a sporting penalty for no sporting advantage
He has been giving these warnings for the last year or so
That's right! So don't be surprised when it happens! đ
The fact Masters mentions it suggests something will happen here in regards to consequence.
More bs about Chelsea from this fool
Exactly. He says this every season
Same guy that bleated on all last season that we breached PSR đđđđđ Mug
Only because you sold yourself a hotel đ
@@thorntonovski donât hate the player hate the game
Points deduction is laughable... This is the same thing that happened to Man City. They weren't deducted points so why should Chelsea?
Citys case is being heard next week. If found guilty they'll probably be kicked out of the league.
Obi-Mikel is a "sporting" issue too... was practically a United player
The owners are prepped for it. Buying loads of players in case of a transfer ban and allegedly 200/300 mill banked ready for a hefty fine
It won't be a transfer ban.
This bloke is just wishful thinking and trying to move the target off of citys back
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber đŻ Facts
They spent 1.2 billion. Have already made back 400-500m in sales, and cut 100m a year from the wage bill. They have 42 players, let's say average sale is 20m each, 42Ă20, that's 800m.
500+800= 1.3billion, maybe they know what they are doing, they lowered the wage bill, lowered the average age of the club and increased the value of the squad
Does this clown know Chelsea made the most profit from sales ?
Doesn't matter. They have been cheating all the other clubs for years.
Given that Blueco was brought in to effectively rescue the club by the UK Government after it was confiscated from its former owner, it is hardly fair to now penalise the rescuers for prior transgressions over which it was not involved.
Historical misconduct and cheating should lead to stripping of all their Premier League titles. Only fair to the other clubs who competed on a level playing field
There's never been a precedent for stripping titles for financial breaches. Points deductions, fines, relegations is all we've ever seen for matters involving financial breaches because the players and staff themselves aren't directly involved in the breaches. Don't say Juve without looking into it, none of their titles were stripped for financial breaches, that was only for the on the field stuff.
How many league titles will Man Utd lose then?
@@JohnBaker-cq6ty Zero, because when they were winning titles they were doing it fairly. Under Fergie's reign they had so much to spend because they EARNED it. Their business model, along with them being the biggest club in the world, meant they could outspend everybody easily. It's only under the Glazers that they have become suspect with debt etc. And no, I'm no UTD fan, I'm actually a very frustrated Spurs fan lol.
@@JohnBaker-cq6tyand city and liverpool etc
How do you know when "Corporate" are in control? When the man on the street is jailed and the companies are fined.
I hate Chelsea but this guy is an absolute clown.
So bloody pathetic
Here we go again
Stefan's appearances on Talksport in the last few months almost matches the number of charges City have against them.
This guy is a complete đ€Ą ....a case of if you say the same thing enough times for long enough it might just become true one day
Transfer ban won't make a difference to Chelsea considering the amount of players they have already got.
Rival Clubs are puzzled and baffled how the hell Chelsea buying 40+ players without PSR or FFP can even sniff their FARTS!đđ€Ł
This probably explains why Chelsea have been signing players on these long contracts because they know the level of sanctions and transfer bans coming are massive. Thatâs just what I think!
This guy said last year Chelsea are absolutely definitely getting a points deduction and not meeting PSR and they bought there own hotels honestly the football clubs are much smarter than talksport ! đ
They will get a slap on the wrist for being honest.....EPL will want clubs to be honest, if they punish them every club will keep skeletons hidden
Chelsea have been one of the worst things to happen to football
He's said this for two years now. The owners may no nothing about football but they know more about finance than the rest of the league put together, thats what they do. They'll not breach PSR.
Points deductions affects the supporters which can do nothing about Roman, havenât the supporters suffered enough, with the transfer ban and losing its previous owners??
Eh? There was no PL PSR at the time of Hazard's transfer to Chelsea in 2012. And Willian signed in 2013. And PSR rules then were not the same as they are now.
Chelsea fans should be optimistic because whatever Stefan says about Chelsea.....the opposite occurs.
I can tell you from inside uefa that those 10 million from city were just for the public. Few main guys from uefa share another 50 mill sponsorship by city owners. Everything is so badly corrupted
At somepoint when you keep saying the samething you will be rightđ
I BEGGGGGG you stop letting this guy talk about Chelsea. I can go back through your history and find atleast 5 videos where heâs just been outright incorrect. It is boring
What lies were told here?
Sour city fan
@@x_MVP no one said he told lies mate, heâs been incorrect on 5 previous occasions, wasnât aware people who lacked basic reading skills would be responding to me comment or wouldâve made it easier to understand
Foreign money has truly corrupted English football.
He's a Man City fan.
why put clickbait titles
The same reason you put aftershave on when you're on the pull..to fk someone. Same meat different gravy đ
I think PSR will be the least of their issues if they are charged with this as it pretty much amounts to cheating by giving players and agents backhanders. If they haven't paid the tax on these payments then that opens up a massive can of worms for them.
Look at the Glasgow Rangers EBT case for a similar scenario - though they were doing something that was legal at the time until the goalposts were moved.
They still cant let roman rest in peaceđ
Nice to see douglas murray talking about ffp for once
And then there's 115 FC, whose ownership transgressions beyond the pitch are even worse than the 115 violations, that weren't self reported, BTW.
Is this like the 5th time Iâve seen this guy say this đ
Letâs see what the punishment is then, Iâm sure City are dying to see the punishment given they paid Toure and Mancini off the books and didnât admit it.
oh please, he said that last year and embarrassed himself
They did breach last year. They ended selling their hotels remember. Though they sold them to themselves effectively. was quite clever really, but they did breach
@@nicholasharding8349 they sold the hotels to ensure they didn't breach - that is the right way around
Another âwarningâ from stefan? They should be quaking in their boots after the previous 17 âwarningsâ all turned out to be utter nonsense.
âSporting advantageâ so Man City didnât get a sporting advantage from inflating the sponsorship deals from its satellite companies ?
Question is how FA not knowing in the first place
In real business world, the accountant and business owner will need to be jailed
Is this not the fool who falsely told us that Chelsea has to sell at least 100 mil before 30th June or they will be doomed and is now telling us that Chelsea are doomed... without any precedent or clear info lmao, everything he says, the oppisite happens lol
Chelsea will never in anyway bridge PSR rules
Most people are here giving pub analysis to something they have zero knowledge of. If Chelsea's case was remotely like that of City it would have been all over the news. The video didn't even make a mention of that, yet, someone flung the mysterious gossip wand in the air and manufactured a lie from tin air.
When will TalkSport realise Stefan is working for City trying to draw attention away from them. Itâs so obvious⊠Evrything he says Alyssa ends up being club propaganda.
Did not know about Willian
I know one thing, they ain't buying Victor oshimon đ or they will massive points deduction đ
If he says it about everything Chelsea do he will probably get one of them right eventually
I wonder if Chelsea are buying up all their players because they know that a transfer ban is coming, which would render it a useless punishment. If they are guilty and received sporting advantage then significant points deduction is inevitable.
Admitted because they knew before purchase
The return of Dobby, the defender of Man Shitty and the accuser of other clubs!
Tried to replicate this video, and now we have a new plan: not to try againđ
i will believe a points deduction to one of the big clubs when i see it, until then...
Simply put, Chelsea and Man City won trophies through unfair advantages. Their owners manipulated the rules, and the Premier League has finally taken action to address this issue. "Allegedly"
Thereâs definitely whistle blowers at these clubs
Stefan helped Man City cook the books now wants to mislead us from 115 charges to Chelsea đ
Chelsea use to go begging with charity boxes before Roman era FACT
So basically they knew this was happening and have brought players and made long contracts preparing for the transfer ban so that makes it make sense now
He is Taking Rubbish about Chelsea FC
What did he say that was rubbish, specifically?
No he isnât.
@@environm3ntalist549 u do realize every time he makes an appearance, he's talking about chelsea? He's a known man city fan. Isn't this a red flag?
I swear he said this last season đ€Ł
Watch them hammer Chelsea but bottle Man Cityâs charges
You heard it here first folks
Heâs worrying about everyone except city đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Borson letâs talk about Man City
I would think any favorable position the new ownership gained by self reporting they've lost by exploiting loopholes that have existed for years but no other clubs exploited because of how unfavorable it would be perceived by not just the league but by other clubs.
What's wrong about giving players long comparatively low wage contracts with incentivized performance based bonuses. The idea this has to be frowned upon and is considered a " loophole" is just ridiculous to me. This makes more sense than having players on fixed ÂŁ300,000+ per week wages that become hard to move on if they don't perform.
TalkSport should pay Chelsea for all this money making of Clickbaiting hating on Chelsea.
give them 20 points
They should be stripped of any trophies too
Chelsea are heading for championship at this rateâŠ
City and Chelsea are so out of control they must be relegated to league 2 minimum
chelsea should have transfer ban again and points deduction and this would be second time of breaking rules.
what annoys me with city and chelsea is they won titles have advantage like this. prize money won should be given too grass roots kids that dont make it for new career paths,
also why is this done before start of season so every season is equal. theres time though the season too have solved both chelsea and city issues. before this season thats what truely annoys me and its not fair on other teams either. know once again they playing against teams that had unfair advantage.
winning titles bring new bigger sponsorships ect meaning extra cash flow and all that jazz so has big affect from season too season. city prize winning around 250million allowed too carry on spending and use winning that possible will be charged. minimum charged 75 time for not showing accounts
I think it's pretty obvious that Chelsea have done dodgy deals over the years, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that.
This bloke always criticises other clubs and then he POO POOS the facts about the City case, I wonder why.....đ€đ€