8BitDo's Ultimate (Docked) Steam Deck Companion

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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
  • The new 8BitDo Ultimate Wireless Controller (2.4GHz edition) is $20 cheaper than their Bluetooth version, and in my opinion this is the one to get. In this video I'll go over all its features and explain why this has become my favorite controller to pair with a docked Steam Deck.
    UPDATE: This controller initially had some compatibility issues with certain Steam Deck games, but the latest preview build of SteamOS has fixed it: www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12...
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 introduction
    02:44 unboxing and impressions
    06:51 comparison with other controllers
    10:03 software setup
    11:54 connectivity testing (PC, Steam Deck, Android)
    15:29 summary (likes and dislikes)
    18:46 conclusion
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Komentáře • 552

  • @MotherRat-ii6ji
    @MotherRat-ii6ji Před rokem +368

    If you plug the dock into your computer, it acts as a pass through for the 2.4 dongle (so you can just leave the dongle in the compartment in the dock)

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před rokem +104

      Oh that’s super handy, thanks for the tip!

    •  Před rokem +2

      Is this a question or a statement? I am curious about this

    • @greenprotag
      @greenprotag Před rokem +5

      @ It's a passthrough. I think Spawn wave pointed this out.

    • @MotherRat-ii6ji
      @MotherRat-ii6ji Před rokem +4

      @ Statement.

    • @TheQuestingHero
      @TheQuestingHero Před rokem +3

      This is exactly what i have been trying to find out. thank you

  • @RetroGameCorps
    @RetroGameCorps  Před rokem +36

    UPDATE #3: Valve has fixed the compatibility issues with their latest SteamOS preview build: www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/steamos-34-preview-adds-support-for-8bitdo-ultimate-wireless-controller-dongle/
    UPDATE #2: Here is a community solution to get the 2.4GHz version of the controller to work with the Steam Deck properly: www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/ymv653/guide_to_setup_the_8bitdo_ultimate_24ghz_wireless/
    UPDATE: it turns out the 2.4GHz version of the 8BitDo Ultimate controller is not as compatible with the Steam Deck as I initially thought. Someone pointed out that it has compatibility issues with many recent games, where the right analog stick doesn’t register and the triggers aren’t detecting an analog input. For example, this morning I tested more games and God of War and LEGO Star Wars Skywalker Saga don’t register the right analog stick or triggers. I got lucky in that all the games I tested for my review video worked fine with this setup.
    At this point we can either hope for 8BitDo to upgrade their firmware (unlikely), or Valve to improve x-input compatibility (more likely but not guaranteed). However, if you pre-ordered this controller specifically for playing with a docked Steam Deck (like I did), then you may want to cancel the order and wait to see if a fix is incoming. I apologize for the confusion, this is frustrating that 8BitDo’s implementation of this otherwise exceptional controller is so haphazard.

    • @chaos6604
      @chaos6604 Před rokem

      2.4ghz also does not work on some of my Windows PC Xbox Gamepass games such as Outriders and Dreamlight Valley. Not sure if I'm the only one experiencing it though.

    • @hakanpakan
      @hakanpakan Před rokem

      I just cancelled my pre-order. It was disappointing since I thought this product would go very well with steamdeck dock. Anyway, thank you for all the information. helped me a lot.

    • @rodrigo53
      @rodrigo53 Před rokem +18

      Delete this video then. It serves no purpose other that confusing costumers.

    • @samutz
      @samutz Před rokem +5

      There is a topic in the 8bitdo subreddit about these issues that has workarounds for dinput mode and xinput mode on linux. The dinput fix has a few success reports, one being on Steam Deck I believe. The xinput fix has a few success reports to, but I don't think any of them are for the Deck, just other linux distros.
      I also sent a support ticket to 8BitDo regarding the dinput on linux, because I was having issues with the controller in Moonlight-Qt on Raspberry Pi (which is supposed to be supported). They confirmed that it's an SDL2 issue, which is a library that Moonlight-Qt and Steam on linux uses for controller mapping. The support person told me they made the dev team aware, but could not tell me if a firmware fix would be coming. Others that have contacted them regarding the Deck have said they got responses simply saying the Deck isn't supported. But if they fix it for SDL2 on the RPi, they might inadvertently fix it for the Deck as well.

    • @hekboogie1
      @hekboogie1 Před rokem

      got mine yesterday and runs bad on steam deck. runs flawless on my main pc. hopefully they have an update to this controller

  • @buddyfx7026
    @buddyfx7026 Před rokem +13

    Solid review, great viewpoint and I think you've added some perspective to people considering controllers for different use cases. I initially watched ETA primes video and was leaning towards the more expensive one but you made it clear for me to understand that's not necessarily the best direction.

    • @CrystallineLore
      @CrystallineLore Před rokem +1

      It kind of is though. The cheaper one doesn't have hall controller sticks while the more expensive one can also do bluetooth should you need it and still has a 2.5hz dongle on top of that too.

    • @llai8501
      @llai8501 Před rokem +1

      @@CrystallineLore exactly. Not only will the BT version last longer, but it has more use cases so is far more versatile and for not much more money.

  • @foorocker91
    @foorocker91 Před rokem +1

    I was just looking this up yesterday and couldn’t find anything about it. Russ you are always on the money!

  • @adams4244
    @adams4244 Před rokem +44

    I've been using a PS4 dualshock pro. The touchpad is recognized as a mouse which really helps when using Moonlight and for the desktop mode.

    • @Boyiaka97
      @Boyiaka97 Před rokem +4

      Same, well just a regular PS4 controller lol. But regardless, that touchpad piece comes in handy so much, and the way Steam handles controller mapping has worked great for me so far.

    • @luvenstein1852
      @luvenstein1852 Před rokem +8

      Ps4 and the steam controllers are the only acceptable deck controllers, trackpads are a must. Until someone finally releases a duke controller with trackpads that is, if only. 😂

    • @doomsdalicious
      @doomsdalicious Před rokem +1

      Same, except I use the Dualsense. So cherry for the Deck!

    • @Jeno_Sinatra
      @Jeno_Sinatra Před rokem

      What the hell is a "dualshock pro?"

  • @jepoyburner
    @jepoyburner Před rokem +2

    the dock is the game changer. would pick this up for christmas. thanks for the review.

  • @CrystallineLore
    @CrystallineLore Před rokem +3

    preordered mine when they went up last week and I can't wait to get mine in, xbox-like design with the razer style charger stand bundled with it and hall sensor sticks... 8btido, wow

  • @ezekielgskeen8607
    @ezekielgskeen8607 Před 7 měsíci +1

    thanks to your review of the 8BitDo 2.4GHz, just got mine a day after seeing your breakdown, feels awesome
    and plays awesome! Thank you! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 worth every penny!

  • @greenprotag
    @greenprotag Před rokem +87

    I believe the Bluetooth model DOES have D-input. It's a little confusing and these two controllers should PROBABLY have been named VERY differently so that people didn't mix them up. The hall-sticks make the the $70 version much better for the sake of longevity and accuracy and should actually be considered EVEN if the user never touches a Nintendo switch. Stick drift is one of those issues that might never be a problem or be an issue out of the box. The bluetooth controller feature set is suggesting "one controller for everything" in a way and I think getting a more robust stick will pay out value when it doesn't need to be replaced. Even if it simply doubled the lifespan it would be worth the $20.

    • @Empty12345
      @Empty12345 Před rokem +1

      Exactly this!

    • @oktosite_
      @oktosite_ Před rokem +6

      I want to agree, but the lack of a slot for easily replaceable batteries like in the 8BitDo Pro 2 really limits this controller's longevity.

    • @Empty12345
      @Empty12345 Před rokem +1

      @@oktosite_ True I guess, but you could technically remove the battery inside after the warranty & replace it.
      Cable would be the second option.

    • @Hofnarr2k
      @Hofnarr2k Před rokem +1

      That's what I thought too about the D-input.
      It's the typical wrong Amazon table where they compare two different attributes. How can they compare Bluetooth/2.4g with X-input/D-input? Doesn't make sense

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 Před rokem

      Do you know if this controller works on linux?

  • @lijahgil
    @lijahgil Před rokem +6

    I would really like to see a version of this with the aligned stick or PlayStation layout. I would love to have hall affect sensors, trigger stops, and mechanical face buttons. I am looking to getting the buttons from Gulikit and putting that in my Pro2, but I am not to enthusiastic about swapping my thumbstick with a hall sensor but I would probably do that if/when I do get stik drift.
    8BitDo really does make some really good controller, the quality feel, back buttons, software, and price just put it above nearly all others for me.

  • @ChamplainValleyRailSnapshots

    Glad to see the update where this is fixed. Just ordered one.

  • @filmnerd7145
    @filmnerd7145 Před rokem +5

    Hey Russ, thanks for this review. I bought the 2.4 ghz model for my steam deck and i have to say i love it. It feels great and works till now totally fine in d-input. The connection is good and there is no recognizable input lag for me. If the controller could wake the deck up, i would have been in heaven.

    • @yoruneko34
      @yoruneko34 Před rokem

      were you able to make it work with x-input since steamOS 3.4 ?

    • @filmnerd7145
      @filmnerd7145 Před rokem

      @@yoruneko34 didn't test it yet. D-input works out of the box

    • @Chichirumiru
      @Chichirumiru Před 6 měsíci

      @@yoruneko34 Both the Dongle and Bluetooth work great, if that is what you mean.

    • @steffenmass
      @steffenmass Před 4 měsíci

      Have you experienced any issues with double input? In Emulation Station on steam deck, every button is essentially tapped twice

  • @corsinivideos
    @corsinivideos Před rokem

    Nice overview. Are you outputting at 4k over uSB-C here or via hdmi?

  • @Zorro9713
    @Zorro9713 Před rokem +1

    Exellent review as always! I'm kinda sad though that they've gotten rid of the exchangable battery...

  • @adinwalls
    @adinwalls Před rokem

    Russ, I which of the more budget handhelds work with a dongle system like this? You’ve recommended the 8bitdo dongle in the past and I’m keen to get a budget handheld working in this way and then have the option to plug into my TV via HDMI. I’m thinking specifically of getting the RG552 or the Retroid Pocket 3 for this purpose.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před rokem +1

      That's a surprisingly complex question. It's less about the device and more about the firmware. For example, on the RG552, the stock (Batocera-based) OS will detect the controller just fine, I just tested it with the dongle and it works great (you have to map the buttons one time initially). By default it sets the 8bitdo controller as player 2 but it's very simple to go into the settings and swap back and forth, take only a moment in the menu once per gaming session. But on JELOS, it detects the new controller and maps the buttons, but after that they don't have a menu that allows you to set the controller as player 1. So you'd have to go into the RetroArch settings for each game and switch the input from the device to the controller, which gets annoying. Meanwhile on Android it will automatically pick up on the controller no problem, but some emulators behave differently when confronted with a new controller -- some will just work automatically (like RetroArch or PPSSPP), while others will need to be remapped every time. It's just an unfortunate side effect of Android-based handhelds, which are cobbled together by various emulators. For a good demo of the experience, check out the Odin Super Dock video I did earlier in the year, it can get quite messy.

  • @ojwales
    @ojwales Před rokem +2

    For me, when using the dongle with the steam deck dock (as the title of this video suggests,) the deck and/or certain software confuses the right analog stick with the left analog trigger. That is to say, I have to tilt the right stick to get left trigger functions in-game and the left trigger isn't doing anything as far as I can tell. Sometimes the left trigger works correctly though! Any idea what that's about?

  • @Bry4nMW
    @Bry4nMW Před rokem +1

    I have seen some other reviewers mention that the $70 BT version uses D-Input for Bluetooth mode, while X-Input for 2.4ghz. However, these cannot be changed and are locked to the respective connection.

  • @nathangillmore5064
    @nathangillmore5064 Před rokem

    Thanks so much for this review, I'd been wondering about this, now it's a no brainer. Love your channel, btw, keep up the good work!

  • @HoldMeForever
    @HoldMeForever Před rokem +6

    I emailed 8BitDo and asked them if I can use the Bluetooth version with the 2.4G receiver and if I'd be limited to D-input then.
    Their response :
    "This product comes with a 2.4G receiver.
    You can use it to connect PC wirelessly."
    "Switch/D-Input/X-Input
    The mode can be changed through the receiver connection."
    Shout out to Jimmyi from 8BitDo Support!

  • @soullos555
    @soullos555 Před rokem +7

    I got the pricier model, mainly for the hall effect sticks. Longevity is worth the added price IMO (although I wish they had a replaceable battery like their Pro+ and Pro 2 models). For fun, I dusted off and booted up my old Windows 7 machine and to my surprise the controller works, dongle and wired (I don't have bluetooth on this PC) despite it being advertised as Win 10 and 11 only.

    • @PapaBPoppin
      @PapaBPoppin Před rokem +1

      It's the sticks alone that have me lusting after the bt version (gyro is icing on the cake
      Questions, if you wouldn't mind answering
      Does the bt also include the dongle? And does the dock work as a dongle as someone else pointed out obout this 2.4-only model?
      (I'd prefer 2.4 for my use, and having a permanent dongle via the dock would be a mad bonus)

    • @soullos555
      @soullos555 Před rokem

      @@PapaBPoppin The bt does comes with the dongle as well. You have the choice of switching between bt or 2.4 modes. I haven't tested whether the dongle works while inside the dock if hooked up to the PC, but I hear that's a thing. When using bt, it is detected as a Switch controller, when using 2.4 or wired, it's detected at X-input.

  • @michaelsy.
    @michaelsy. Před rokem +1

    Hi! If you dont consider the dock and 2.4ghz.
    Would you say the 8bit is still better then the gulikit overall? Hand feel, build quality, battery size, etc.
    I like the look of the gulikit but unless it was better as a controller then it wouldnt justify missing the dock and 2.4.
    Edit: what wire is the dock? Usb A-C or USB C-C?

  • @OpoSai
    @OpoSai Před rokem

    Now I know what I'm getting for Christmas to pair with my AYN Odin

  • @yoruneko34
    @yoruneko34 Před rokem

    glad I watched this review before buying!

  • @remymartin15
    @remymartin15 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for the detailed controller review.
    I’ve recently got a gaming laptop and bring it to work. Playing both current Forza games works great with my regular Xbox controller but if I want to play Halo infinite or later COD games on gamepass or shooters on in general it’s not the best and not looking to bring my Elite 2 out the house and risk dropping and breaking it on tile floors.
    I remembered the company 8bitdo and the fact I can adjust the triggers is what I need. I wish it was on the fly like the Elite 2 controller or newer PS5 pro controller. Do you mind sharing how good the trigger feels when you change them? Do they feel like an Elite 2 controller or what?
    Now all I need is 8bitdo to make this same exact controller well the $70 one for the PS5 and I’ll be complete.

  • @ThisIsEladM
    @ThisIsEladM Před rokem

    Great video, as always, Russ!
    One question I have is, can you connect multiple controllers to the same 2.4 GHz dongle?

  • @volodesi0000
    @volodesi0000 Před rokem +43

    Never understood why people say you need D-Input for android. I've only ever used X-Input on my Android devices and it's worked perfectly fine. Android has had support for X-Input for years.

    • @LumbyMcGumby
      @LumbyMcGumby Před rokem +3

      I have a razer controller that only has dinput and it's made for mobile. On windows you need to install a secondary xinput driver for it. It can get confusing hahaha

    • @dawnray540
      @dawnray540 Před rokem +2

      D input is a input style that was supposed to streamline navigating android devices. X input is over all better for gaming and some devices will even lower input lag when using X input. There are also games on the playstore that specifically use D input.

    • @LPPanther
      @LPPanther Před rokem +3

      My 8-Bit Do Pro 2 doesn't work on Android in X-Input mode.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před rokem +9

      I agree that Android works with x-input, but with this controller specifically, on the d-input method works in Android.

    • @CrystallineLore
      @CrystallineLore Před rokem

      Doesn't really matter if you never plan on using it for android anyway.

  • @Kojo220
    @Kojo220 Před rokem

    @retrogamecorps did you have to do anything special for this controller to work with the Odin? It's not working for me. I got this for Christmas because I saw it work in your video.

  • @LeoDavidson
    @LeoDavidson Před rokem +1

    I wonder how well those charging pins and pads will hold up over time. I've had several wireless mice with similar setups and they always ended up being unreliable and needing constant cleaning. But then maybe it's different with mice being rubbed around on a desk all the time instead of controllers that are held. Hopefully these aren't like that, but it's made me much prefer either simple USB cables for charging or 'wireless' induction chargers. -- Looks like another cool 8BitDo stick, in any case. Their software and configurability is a real killer feature; especially being able to configure things via a phone while the device is still actively paired and being used on a gaming system (assuming it's like the older 8BitDo Pro I have).

  • @pissoff9749
    @pissoff9749 Před rokem

    Bro you really have my back steam deck wise

  • @craftmaker8794
    @craftmaker8794 Před rokem +1

    Do you need to remove vibrate for the controller on the Steam Deck in order for it to work properly? I'm having this issue with other controllers.

  • @gamergod9182
    @gamergod9182 Před rokem +15

    I'd definitely go with the $70 version, even if you don't own a Switch. having gyro and BT available is a huge plus, and so are the hall effect sticks. and maybe I'm just lucky, but I never had any issues settings up Xinput controllers on Android devices.

    • @carson5757
      @carson5757 Před rokem +1

      Also the battery is much larger. 15 hours vs 22 hours play time.

    • @MyurrDurr
      @MyurrDurr Před rokem +1

      I think I'd prefer to have a dongle over paired with Bluetooth for the docked steam deck use case ... But yeah, for playing games, gyro is essential for me now in FPS games

    • @Zanpaa
      @Zanpaa Před rokem

      @@MyurrDurr you can use the dongle too, the bluetooth model is both BT+2.4. however on 2.4GHz it doesn't have Gyro, and on Bluetooth it doesn't have analog triggers...

    • @MyurrDurr
      @MyurrDurr Před rokem +1

      @@Zanpaa No gyro on dongle? dafuq? IDC about analog triggers or not though, hmm

    • @Goldstarman
      @Goldstarman Před rokem +1

      @@MyurrDurr It's because the bluetooth is dinput and the 2.4 ghz is xinput

  • @hpttg8685
    @hpttg8685 Před rokem

    In your review, I noticed you mention that you don't use the super dock for the AYN Odin. I already own the super dock and am wondering if this controller would work with it?

  • @Chichirumiru
    @Chichirumiru Před 6 měsíci +1

    You said in your video that the Ultimate Bluetooth can only connect to the SteamDeck via Bluetooth, not via Dongle.
    I have bought the same Controller and both Bluetooth and the Dongle work great, seems like Steam fixed it :)

  • @christianmartinez5173

    I had the Bluetooth version preordered for last month and it was supposed to be delivered Monday. Ended up cancelling it and though about buying this version, but didn’t pull the trigger. Now I see this and am completely second guessing LOL

  • @jackbootshamangaming4541

    I got one, and I never thought of using it with my Deck in 2.4ghz mode, I definitely will.

  • @21N42Photo
    @21N42Photo Před rokem +2

    Steam deck owner here. This is great and will be getting soon

    • @davidflegal4308
      @davidflegal4308 Před rokem

      Do not get this for Deck. It does not work. In D-Input mode the right stick is not picked up and the triggers are not analogue. X-Input mode does not work at all. This test in the video got lucky it doesnt use those inputs.

  • @israelvallejorodenas8978

    I got a SN30+ Pro as a Christmas present a few years ago and is my favorite controller without a doubt. I use it mainly with my Switch and pi and I really enjoy it. This new iteration looks awesome!

  • @h4tzi35
    @h4tzi35 Před rokem

    What an incredible review. Kudos man! Im not even kidding and not making comments like this often!

  • @rcmp09
    @rcmp09 Před 9 měsíci

    When putting the controller into d-input mode to connect to the 2.4ghz adapter, are you able to get the steam/home buttons to work for pulling up the overlays. Mine doesn't work on my SN30 Pro plus, and wondering if I'm doing something wrong.

  • @z3t4n
    @z3t4n Před 9 měsíci +1

    8bitdo released an update for the 2.4gh version which makes it compatible with the switch on the dock, theres is a few steps you have to do to put the controller on switch mode.
    Dont know why but they only say this on the FAQ for this controller, not on the main page. Here is the steps.
    1. Go to system settings--Controller and Sensors--Turn on [Pro Controller Wired Communication].
    2. Plug the 2.4g receiver into the Switch dock.
    3. After turn on the controller(mode switch on D/X), press and hold [minus+LB] buttons for 5 seconds, the controller will enter in Switch mode after a short moment of vibration. Please note that NFC(amiibo), motion control, IR, HD rumble and wake up function are not supported.

  • @marccarter1350
    @marccarter1350 Před rokem

    I have an 8bitdo arcade stick which i love. I might get this for my Steam deck!

  • @MathieuCruzel
    @MathieuCruzel Před rokem

    Your review is just perfect, I was going for the Bluetooth version for the HAL effect joysticks but this review and the comments below changed my mind just for the fact you can just plug the dock and passthrough and the D-Input signal. Very insighfull

  • @Darqon505
    @Darqon505 Před rokem +1

    1:55 nope, I just got my Bluetooth edition of this controller. In Bluetooth mode it is Dinput, when using the dongle on 2.4GHz it is Xinput. Seems to be exactly the same as the dongle-only model, it just also has the Bluetooth and Switch compatibility

  • @kevincampos6394
    @kevincampos6394 Před rokem

    Wouldn’t 40$ version also work with switch in docked mode tho? Also do you prefer the 8bit pro over an Xbox elite control for steam deck? I have a few 8bits and love ‘em jus looking for a new beast for my steam deck.

  • @Dima26363
    @Dima26363 Před rokem

    It has dead zones? Did you make test? For shooters it's good choice?

  • @Guitario666
    @Guitario666 Před rokem

    Great Review, maybe add some weights to the bottom of the dock?

  • @minifluff201
    @minifluff201 Před rokem +5

    The dock also has a USB passthrough to the dongle.

  • @kaiserfebo6867
    @kaiserfebo6867 Před rokem +1

    Hi Russ, seeing your Deck setup made me think: do you think you can make some sort of guide for the SD docked mode and optimal settings vs performance? Like in emulation and all that stuff. Because I noticed you don’t use fullscreen hacks in Dolphin while in handheld you suggested to use it. Hope it could be a new video idea. Love your content, bye :)

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před rokem +1

      I'll see what I can do. For Dolphin I switch between 4:3 and 16:9 (or 16:10 in the case of the Steam Deck) based on my mood. Sometimes I like classic, sometimes I like blowing it up to widescreen :)

  • @Falsh125
    @Falsh125 Před rokem

    The Hall Effect sensors make the $70 option infinitely better and that's almost literal given that the magnetic setup prevents internal mechanical wear and tear (drifting) virtually forever!

  • @Agent234sp
    @Agent234sp Před rokem +25

    One extra thing about the bluetooth model to keep in mind: it comes with Hall-Effect Analog Sticks like the Gulikit controller, which should make the sticks last significantly longer then the lower-end model.
    As a more technical player, many of my potentiometer sticks have lost too-much accuracy for many games, so I have a lot of controllers I don't use anymore.
    Even if you don't have a switch: I'd still consider the Bluetooth model (it comes with a 2.4 GHz dongle too).

    • @Legokillen51
      @Legokillen51 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, I definitely think the 20 bucks extra is worth it for the Hall effect since they will last a lot longer, and you get Bluetooth

    • @jonnyeh
      @jonnyeh Před rokem +2

      I bought that model but it doesn't work with the Steam Deck in 2.4GHz mode, as far as I've tried. This thing sucks, I'm going to return it.

    • @zae4557
      @zae4557 Před rokem

      Dumb question, could I possible use that dongle to connect to my Xbox? Or maybe find another brand for a dongle to use as an adapter to be able to use it on Xbox? I’m tired of my stock controller, also my fingers hurt from playing claw for years so I’d like some back paddle options at a wireless option.

    • @Legokillen51
      @Legokillen51 Před rokem

      @@zae4557 most likely won’t work since it’s for windows and not for Xbox. 8bitdo do sell a controller like this for Xbox but it’s only wired.

    • @zae4557
      @zae4557 Před rokem

      @@Legokillen51 yeah I saw it, don’t like how the cable isn’t t detachable. I have no problem with wired controllers, I’ve had multiple Razer wolverines and turtle beach recons, as well as both gens of fusion pros. It’s just that I got rid of them to save money and play claw. I was thinking like maybe another companies Bluetooth adapter could work, I know that Collective minds used to make wired adapters, but now it’s the Cronus zen, and i don’t feel like cheating.

  • @joshuawalker7038
    @joshuawalker7038 Před 4 měsíci

    Hows the vibration compared to something like the Switch pro controller or Dualsense? I'm looking for a controller for my PC/Docked Steam Deck for the TV.

  • @TechiesUnofficial
    @TechiesUnofficial Před rokem

    Please make a video comparing Ultimate with previous controller (Pro2). Let us know which one is for which type of player. Thanks!

  • @VisionFR
    @VisionFR Před rokem

    Do you think this controller for the SteamDeck in docked mode is better than an xbox controller in bluetooth ? And can you connect several controllers with only 1 dongle?
    Thanks

  • @bibouwalid1251
    @bibouwalid1251 Před rokem +3

    If you had to choose between 8bitdo 2.4G and king kong pro 2, which one would you choose and why?

  • @Dracossaint
    @Dracossaint Před rokem

    On the PC side does it come up as an Xbox 360 controller or Xbox One controller? This is important to me, because some games work only with the 360 controller (dead rising as an example)

  • @igorR061
    @igorR061 Před rokem +1

    I got the 2,4G version, cheaper and with the Xbox/PC layout buttons, yes, I bought new buttons for my Gulikit to make it "right", I could pay more for the BT version if I had the option of layout. I really like that dock, that´s a complete package, a lot better than connect a cable or worst change batteries, reason my Xbox controller is retired.

  • @ChaoSJino
    @ChaoSJino Před rokem +2

    I'll preface the following with this: I am a fan of 8bitdo products. I own some 7 different controllers from their various lines and models.
    I just want to mention, that 8bitDo actually offer a separate "dongle" accessory, which can pair with not only their own controllers, but a wide variety of other controllers as well.
    The dongle pairs once and stays paired unless you make it otherwise, even if you unplug it and place it into a different device.
    I have the older orange model, I don't know what they've done with the new black one, but it's my go-to solution for when I want to play on a machine with no bluetooth.
    Windows actually registers the dongle and controller as a wired X-box controller, which is also cool (I tested it with various modes of various 8bitdo controllers, it always registers as a wired xbox controller, also tested it with a switch pro controller).
    So if you are looking for a dongle experience, but do not wish to swap your fav controller for a new one - there are options, and I'm certain 8bitDo aren't the only ones who offer a product like that.

    • @mishimaro5423
      @mishimaro5423 Před rokem +1

      I have the dongle you’re talking about. Unfortunately I couldn’t get it to pair with a new controller, so I’ve been leaving it in the dust for a while

    • @ChaoSJino
      @ChaoSJino Před rokem

      @@mishimaro5423 That's weird. I just jeep a dongle in my bag and grab a random controller if I've emptied my bag and it always works.

  • @BrentMaxwellian
    @BrentMaxwellian Před rokem

    Thanks! Amazing review, especially against the Bluetooth version and the Gulikit.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před rokem

      Thanks! I'm working on a deep-dive comparison between the Ultimate controllers, should have it out soon!

  • @cubingbuzz1
    @cubingbuzz1 Před rokem +8

    The dock is a nice touch but I think the shape of the controller might feel weird. I personally like the 8bit do pro 2 shape a little better

    • @Bert_de_Wit
      @Bert_de_Wit Před rokem +2

      Got the Pro 2 as well. It's a VERY good controller!

  • @I4get42
    @I4get42 Před rokem

    Ooh, and A is at the bottom on the cheaper one 😍

  • @jandarylcastrence8126

    Can the bluetooth mode be paired with multiple devices? Or do you have to repair everytime?

  • @overlordjon97
    @overlordjon97 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I’m experiencing dual input when using the 2.4 GHz dongle. Any game that has split screen or even imu deck has double input. Is there any weight to prevent this from happening?

  • @EliasShaefer
    @EliasShaefer Před rokem

    This may be just an issue with some piece of my hardware. But could you see if the controller works as intended with the 3rd party docks? My controller is not getting right stick or r2 L2 functionality. Using the JSAUX 6in1 dock.

  • @steffenmass
    @steffenmass Před 4 měsíci +1

    Have you experienced issues with double input? It appears to only happen in Emulation Station. Any idea on fixes?

  • @JEenerio
    @JEenerio Před 3 měsíci

    I am planning to connect two 8 bitdo 2.4g Wireless Ultimate using their own receivers on a single android device via a dock to simulate a player 1 / player 2 experience. Will they interfere with each others signal?
    Do they need their own receivers attached in different usb slots to work? Or do they only need one connector?

  • @brucegreen8463
    @brucegreen8463 Před rokem

    I'm getting one for my docked Steamdeck!

  • @gameatease3953
    @gameatease3953 Před rokem

    is this dongle the same as the 8bitdo 2 dongle? can you connect an xbox elite controller through the 2.4 dongle?

  • @Russy76
    @Russy76 Před rokem

    Is the bluetooth model the only 8BitDo controller that actually has the Hall Effect sticks?? I find their individual controller specs confusing.

  • @Stoked4Good
    @Stoked4Good Před rokem

    Nice video! Thank you Sir.

  • @adelin081
    @adelin081 Před rokem +65

    I would love to see an input latency test between the controller connected with 2.4 ghz dongle and the bluetooth controller on the steam deck.

    • @haughtygarbage5848
      @haughtygarbage5848 Před rokem +9

      my guess would be, if the test is really rigorous, 2.4g will have less latency than bt but both will feel decent in modern games; those used to low latency playing retro games may feel it more on the bt side

    • @BeHappyTo
      @BeHappyTo Před rokem +3

      its hard to tell without testing... DSv2 bt is faster than anything (except when oc). But for xbox controllers its something like 6ms dongle 7ms wired 12ms bt soooo

    • @lukaslazari
      @lukaslazari Před rokem +12

      Someone did it on reddit. apparently it was around 7ms for 2.4ghz and 9~10ms for bluetooth

    • @adelin081
      @adelin081 Před rokem +1

      @@lukaslazari awesome! thanks!

    • @TH15N4M315UN4V41L4BL
      @TH15N4M315UN4V41L4BL Před rokem

      Exactly what I was wondering

  • @McSmeecherson
    @McSmeecherson Před rokem

    Will the Bluetooth one work with the dongle in the Odin dock? I tried pairing it via BT to Odin but it didn't seem to recognize it

  • @BrianMills198686
    @BrianMills198686 Před rokem

    So with this one now requiring a bunch of tweaks to get it working on Steam Deck. Is there a better plug and okay 2.4ghz controller to get? Feels like all my Bluetooth controllers (dualshocks, Xbox ones, dual sense, etc) feel laggy when used to play a game on the Deck on the TV.

  • @jonathanmarkleonard5571

    would you say this is worth getting over the xbox controller? ill have no issues with any game compatibility? What about vibration quality? Do they both feel the same?

  • @TimelessPublicClassics

    thank you! can you confirm local multiplayer functions out of box with emulation? im struggling to get 2 players without going into desktop mode

  • @thecatinastroller
    @thecatinastroller Před rokem

    Does it work that well? It fails to register trigger presses for me on Steam Deck Game Mode. Using the 2.4 Ghz dongle on D-Input mode (didn't work with X-Input mode). It's kind of weird because the 8BitDo M30 controller is the only one that properly registers all buttons for me on Steam Deck Game Mode when using a pad with 6 buttons.

  • @thekillamari
    @thekillamari Před rokem

    I have an issue where if I plug in a 2nd 8bitdo wireless adapter, either only one of the controllers works, or both controllers will be recognized as player one. I can't seem to get 2 of the 8bitdo's to work at the same time on my steam deck. Have you experienced anything similar? Thanks.

  • @jshowe95
    @jshowe95 Před rokem +1

    Great review, but my eyes must be broken. So many times in this video could not convince myself that the controller was pink and not some off white lmao

  • @aaronogrady4373
    @aaronogrady4373 Před 5 měsíci

    Is it true that with recent updates this controller now also works with the Nintendo Switch by plugging the dongle directly into the dock?

  • @Paul_Klimb
    @Paul_Klimb Před rokem

    What is the best controller for emulating the Switch on the steam deck? The Bluetooth version has the gyroscope?

  • @wanggaard
    @wanggaard Před rokem +1

    I bought the 8bitdo Xbox Wired controller a few months back for retro gameplay, and I was absolutely shocked that a wired controller would not work for the Nintendo Switch or the Nvidia Shield TV. I understand that companies have unique features in their controllers and also like captive audiences, but it is still disappointing that there is not one controller (or two) to rule them all.

    • @Harshhaze
      @Harshhaze Před rokem

      I think you need a special USB adapter to make Xbox controllers work on Switch

  • @brotherchicken1
    @brotherchicken1 Před 4 měsíci

    Got this for Odin 2 and have a super dock, but haven't had any luck with connecting them. Any advice?

  • @thelionking2000cn
    @thelionking2000cn Před rokem

    It support switch, you have to plug the reciever into switch dock. Speaking of gyro, there is a bluetooth version that perfectly supports switch with gyro.

  • @Bradypodidus
    @Bradypodidus Před rokem

    Thanks for the detailled review. Can I wake up my Steam Deck while connected via its Docking Station with the controller?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před rokem

      Unfortunately you cannot, you'll have to tap the button on the top to wake the Steam Deck.

  • @andyheartofdarkness
    @andyheartofdarkness Před rokem

    where you found that version with shoulder black buttons?

  • @freddiejohnson6137
    @freddiejohnson6137 Před rokem

    Thinking of getting this for my PC tbh as it would make an excellent replacement for the ageing Xbox one controller I use for it.

  • @davidgabay9398
    @davidgabay9398 Před 2 měsíci

    I recently got it and I love it, can't believe it only costs 40$

  • @benchristensen1526
    @benchristensen1526 Před rokem

    How do multiple controllers work on the steam deck? I’m using some knock-off xbox controllers and sometimes they randomly disconnect when I’m playing with a friend. Considering switching to wired controllers to avoid this problem

  • @bigvic71C
    @bigvic71C Před 10 měsíci +1

    Can you map the back buttons to a keyboard key, like f11?

  • @gustavinus
    @gustavinus Před rokem

    Can you connect 2 of them with a single USB dongle? Or do you need 2 dongles?

  • @shinOIchan
    @shinOIchan Před 13 dny

    Just got myself a F40 edition. I wished the grip handles were a bit longer, like SN30+. The rest is great especially the analog stick, super precise and smooth.

  • @zombiewafle502
    @zombiewafle502 Před 10 měsíci

    How good/bad is the input lag? My PS4 controller died recently and I really like to dock the Steam Deck and would like to play from the couch.

  • @bitterkeit85
    @bitterkeit85 Před 5 měsíci

    Just bought one after watching your review, but didn't notice it was a year old one 🙁

  • @juancholising9215
    @juancholising9215 Před rokem

    If I only play on PC, I should opt for this rather than the BT version right?

  • @joaopedroboechat1253
    @joaopedroboechat1253 Před rokem

    Probably going for this one. I have been using a PS4 controller for PC gaming but it's so annoying that you have to have a third party software to make it X input and then a lot of games won't have the proper button layout. On top of that, I can't use it and use a bluetooth headphone because both devices interference with each other. The 2.4g connection will come in hand!

  • @hannijobs
    @hannijobs Před rokem

    Does it work when you insert the dongle on the USB port of the Switch's dock?

  • @demetriouslara9533
    @demetriouslara9533 Před rokem

    Is this worth the upgrading to from the 8bitdo Pro 2?

  • @Atari-wh2hr
    @Atari-wh2hr Před rokem

    Хороший геймпад,надо на Новый год заказать себе!
    Спасибо за обзор!

  • @erik9358
    @erik9358 Před rokem +1

    Am I wrong or didn’t you upload a video on steam deck recently on why you prefer it over other handhelds ? Can’t find it on my history and I just watched it a few hours ago
    I believe it said like 3 days ago ?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  Před rokem +1

      That was probably Taki Udon's recent Steam Deck video.

    • @erik9358
      @erik9358 Před rokem

      @@RetroGameCorps Yes it was ! My apologies!! Keep up the great work !

  • @irkandcrew
    @irkandcrew Před rokem +11

    THATS AN 8BITDO CONTROLLER? That looks first party yo.

    • @yoaiou
      @yoaiou Před rokem

      They've gone a long way haven't day
      Been a big fan since the sn30pro+, I already ordered the Bluetooth Ultimate and I've heard nothing but praise. Really excited

    • @Eduard0Nordestino
      @Eduard0Nordestino Před rokem

      @@yoaiou bought mine yesterday but it takes 30 days to delivery

    • @irkandcrew
      @irkandcrew Před rokem

      @@yoaiou same bruv. SN30pro+ was the king for a long time

  • @qbusqbus
    @qbusqbus Před rokem

    can the dongle stay pugged in the dock and have the dock plugged into the device?