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Is an engineering degree worth it anymore?
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2024
- I mean if you think about it, was it ever really worth it
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Is an engineering degree worth it anymore?
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Engineering majors are learning what it’s like to be an English major lol
Getting a college degree is like buying into a poker table. You don't win automatically, but it gets you a seat at the table.
YOOOOO 🫨 now THIS is the perfect analogy 🤝
It’s probably less about the person actually questioning the worth of the degree / experience, and more about slight feeling of betrayal, deception or at the very least disillusionment about their post degree situation.
Indeed. I can only imagine the frustration is much higher for engineering majors because that's one of those degrees that more directly positions a person for a specific career path - at least, compared to the other degrees from a place like UC Davis. Think how many times a student told you their major, and you asked (either out loud or inside your head), "What are you doing to do with that?" And it's a fair question: many majors are less a means to an end and more a means to the next step.
Compare that to meeting an engineering major. Their path seems clearer. "Structural engineering... so pre-law, then?" Or "Biological systems. So obviously you'll be getting your K-6 teaching credential."
An engineering degree tends to have an end goal baked into it. So when it doesn't achieve that end right away, it will almost certainly feel like you got cheated or betrayed.
"Disillusionment" is the perfect word - the reality of the adult world is truly realized once you actually enter it
As an old guy let me add 2 bits of perspective. I've been part of the hiring team in dozens and dozens interviews and the most common thing in all of them was the random and capricious nature of the process. Pay to have your resumes professionally written and try to do informational interviews for feedback. Customize your resume for the job you are applying for.
Secondly, may daughter graduated from Davis last June and finally got a job in February. When she got the first call she didn't even remember what the job was because her original application had been 6 months prior. She went through 2 months of interviews and now has the exact job she wanted in the place she wanted. Gauruv said try something adjacent to aerospace, and that can be true, but don't get too far away. Many people who settle for jobs make less and they have a hard time catching up later on when the didn't stick close to their degree. As I said, the process can be random, don't take anything personally and just keep it up. Because as Gauruv noted, looking for work is full time work and its a BIG project. Good Luck.
Agree. I'm probably about Steve's age, and I've been on the hiring side of the job interview 10 times as often as I've been in the hot seat. While I have had 1-2 interviews in which all of the candidates were lacking, the vast majority are such that we have plenty of good candidates. It's a nice problem to have, but has to suck for the person(s) who didn't get the job because there really wasn't anything wrong with them.
In the end, we look much more at experience than education. If a person doesn't have direct experience, which they don't always do, then Gauruv is correct: you might find someone who has been "adjacent" to what you're looking for. I've been a public information officer for almost 30 years now. Someone who worked for a newspaper for 10 years and holds a journalism degree might go up against someone who graduated last year with a liberal art's degree but who interned in the PR office for a minor league baseball team. Between the two, the first person is more qualified on paper. But the second person will actually be more directly familiar with what we do, so I'm going with them. But you can imagine the first person is having the biggest WTF-what-was-it-all-for moment.
Amazing perspective and advice Steve!
Soooo what youre saying is that a engineering degree will enable me to develop a crippeling gambling addiction?
You can bet on it
Not just engineering either. Being an interpreter for a Japanese baseball player might also have such an outcome.
Shots.
It's a conspiracy. I know. I was on the inside of it. I'm a retired Engineering Project Manager. I was constantly asked to attend STEM recruitment efforts, while at work management was cutting engineering salaries, kicking engineers out of the front office, cutting staff, and dumping the work on the rest. Oh, it was worth it for me, big time. But for young people today? I would say, "show me the money". Have you noticed how many (Boeing) whistleblowers are showing up these days? That's one reason why they cut engineers...
Unfortunately engineers need the jobs more than the jobs need the engineers 😔
I've been binging your videos lately and you just got a subscriber. I'm starting an aerospace engineering degree this summer and I'm absolutely terrified of falling flat on my face. Your videos have been so helpful and encouraging, thank you!
You might fall flat on your face, but don't worry - that's part of it! 😁 Thanks so much for the support and good luck this summer!
I kinda felt the same right after I graduated, I had a hard time finding a job. It feels impossible to find a job when you haven't found one yet, once you find one it feels easy. Idk.
On the flip side, after getting hired, my co-workers expressed how difficult it was to find qualified candidates. They found it hard to believe many applicants had the degrees that they claimed due to their lack of knowledge/ skills.
The job market is just a big cluster and it sucks for everyone.
An all around suckfest is a pretty appropriate description of the job market lol
I love your videos, a real guy talking from experience, no fluff, no smoke and mirrors. Keep going!
I appreciate the support! :D
The comment I heard was from my friends mom that when her dad went into sales they had him go door to door trying to sell a dirty mop it teaches you to accept rejection. Good thought experiment.
Ya I've heard of this idea of "rejection therapy" and its many benefits - definitely interesting to look into
Thanks for your insights they have been very helpful
Glad to hear! Thanks for watching :)
didn’t know cr1tikal got an engineering degree 🤔
sir charles is a true renaissance man 🐧
thoughts on BME?
ong I'm considering switching to computer engineering
it is certainly a type of engineering
You kinda remind me of Moist Critikal / penguinz0
Shoutout Sir Charles 🐧
This guy says things that I think better than I think them he prolly 15 more IQ than me give or take 5
Good communication skills can be a sign of intelligence, but it is not the sole indicator
Just tell them they are unhireable and move on 😂 jk jk
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