The Strong Potential of Fast Robin | Robin Early Access Character Guide
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00:00 Introduction
01:20 Robin's Kit in a Nutshell
03:46 Comfy Robin Playstyle
05:02 Advanced Robin Playstyle
08:52 Robin's Eidolons
10:34 Robin's Team Setups and Synergy
11:55 Final Build
12:14 Final Words
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Congrats for the early access, Lis!
why are you congratulating Dreamy
Cuz she's hotc@@housemana
Honorable mention to March
Has follow up and taunt on robin for energy and Cc immunity abuse
Sadly, it doesn't protect other teamates enough.
There's also the RNG on taunt since Preservation characters still has very high innate default aggro.
Taunt on Aventurine!
Team sounds so cute though, with March cheering on Robin and protecting her lol
@@gpgmynos if taunt on Aventurine why using two persevation charcter man lol
@@Kindi001 March dps!
Letsgooo Lisara finally got motivated enough to make an Early Access videooo
You're gradually becoming my favorite guide maker 😂 I just love the format and love the lack of bloat. Also, obviously, the quality of information is top tier.
Thank you for the guide❤. This video really came at the perfect time, just when I was really confused about how I should prepare the build for Robins.
I'm definitely going all in for her =w=
Congratulations dreamy!
You are the most reliable CC out there! You always provide all the details and character potential with calculations and new ideas, i love it
AAAHHHHH my favorite creators got EA. You and lily should be so proud, always making unique and insightful guides and different builds for less sough after characters. Congrats can’t wait for more
AAAAAA YOUR GUIDES ARE THE BEST
I'm soooo happy for you entering the creator experience server!!!! Let's goooo 🎉
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! EARLY LISARA CONTENT!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Congratulations for the early access and thank you for the guides as always!
I'm really glad you cover useful techs for low spender 0 cyclers since so few CC's even acknowledge we exist in their assessments. I'm looking forward to your various techs in the advanced speed tune guide for Robin you hinted at. I myself am not very geared for a follow up teams, but I see so much value in the 100% advance that she seems too good not to get and I love her as a character as well. The teams I wish to potentially utilize with her are Acheron, DoT, DoTeron, QQ, Clara, Jing Yuan, Jing Yuan, Xueyi, Herta + Himeko. I do have Dr. Ratio built, but I do not have his signature as I cared far more about investing in Swan to boost my DoT team which I do not regret, as I was able to get her to E1S1 which greatly boosted her value.
As for Robin, I'm interested in both 3 turn and 4 turn rotations with her in which I can get 2 ults on her within a 0 cycle 2 wav rotational format, even outside of using a FUA team, so any techs oriented around that would help advance my rotational tuning to be more proficient. I also have the S5 BP Harmony LC as an option too, as while it wasn't mentioned, I do like how it can buff the whole team even while Robin is in Concerto mode, including the useful team wide energy regen which I've taken advantage of in many 0 cycles in the past to make up for not having Ruan Mei's S1. Looking forward to it, Lisara. ♥
I was surprised several people got in but you didn't, happy you got access!
All this has made me realize I really need to update my character builds because omg yours hit hard! It's very annoying balancing speed with crit and attack stats. Thank you for this! It makes me feel valid for planning to give her 2pc speed set. Now I just gotta see about speed tech with her E2 in mind. Thank you for always mentioning the eidolons; I feel like many just don't and it's always appreciated!
Like how I do my showcases, I'll go in-depth with the speed tuning so watch out for those if you really wanna learn more about Fast Robin. Just waiting for her to go out in the official server so I could use my relics.
congratulations!
Really appreciate the hard work as always!
Congratulations!
oooh very nice, Congratulations on getting early access!
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Thank you for the informative guide as always! Another factor to how safe and easy Musketeer build is that we get a lot of these relics through playing lol. 4-piece set is nice as it both gives the 12% Atk and the same speed boost as 2-piece Messenger, in which case it will come down to substats.
Congrats!
So for hyper carry set ups you now go either Bronya + Sparkle or Ruan Mei + Robin or shuffle them around, 4th slot goes to either Ting Yun or Pela and just slap in a DPS.
Yup, that's actually a good allocation of supports. One is Hypercarry while one is Duo carry with Robin being the 2nd carry.
I’m so happy you got creator access!!!! My favourite HSR content creator fr!
The only tc i respect and been waiting for. Ive been saying fast robin will be awesome. You confirmed everything that I've been trying to tell people. Thank you very much dreamy.
Saying that with no context would be why nobody would believe you. There is plenty of wannabe ccs who just stack speed with no purpose. Dreamy stated threshold is 180 because of her passive, which is effectively 200 speed. If you can’t reach that, then the build is literally trash, you’ve sacrificed attack buff for nothing with zero purpose.
@@michaelyang838 there is literally no point to your comment. Not a tc other than dreamy that is also a cc has moved on from the mid af fua team everyone is pushing. I did recently see another called Lily. That's two out of how many? I already know what's required as it's been my plan since robin v1 in beta.
@@saiwaqa2573 your defensiveness just shows that you are one of those hindsight people, ah yes, I’ve been saying this for years! The irony of your comment, what’s the point of your comment? 😂😂😂. “Mid fua” teams, dog 🤡🤡🤡
thnx Lis, excellent review \o/
Congrats for getting early access lisara!!
I'm so happy for you for the early access!! Once again, you made a great video! I hope i can win my 50/50 on Robin to pair her up with Aventurine and Ratio!!
Early Access?! Congratulations Lisara!! 🎉
YOOOOOO LETS GOOOOO LISARA ACHIEVED THE DREAMY EARLY ACCESSSSSS
Sheesh a glorious video. Good job.
Someone who truly deseverves the early access got it, nice!
Very nice guide
Congrats on early access/creator experience!
GRATS DREAMY! HUGE W LETS GOOOO
never come to my head a 3 harmony comp, insane
Yes! I was hoping that someone would talk about running her fast/ in a speed build. I was doing calculations and was wondering if it possible to have her cut in between and possibly reset her down time for a repeated cycle 0. (first cycle) thank you for clearing that up with your showcase.
Currently tingyin 190 (dance dance. But not needed.)
Robin build 180 w/vonwacq (yukong holding it)
Dps 137
As usual thank you for the amazing videos, i never expected fast robin was as viable as that. Remember to take enough rest as always.
OK HI QUESTION so the 180spd robin is tuned to basic into ult right at the halfway point (75av) of the intial cycle right? So it's essentially like a 'pause' in the cycle because everyone's av is set to 0. And then after your team goes, the cycle 'unpauses' and continues as normal, which allows for 3 turns by the team. So that means anyone 134 OR FASTER will be able to utilize this setup perfectly, right? Pls tell me this is correct cuz I don't wanna go back to the relic mines more than I have to ._.
Correct.
Thank you for clarifying that she has her own value and is worth pulling (and is not just better/worse RM like everyone wants to insist). People have been so weird about her.
(RM simps must be real fragile if they're scared of her getting powercrept by another character, anyway)
As much as I love Ruan Mei, I think people overblew her value simply due to her being the very first limited Harmony character. with Sparkle and Robin, it's now pretty clear they're all universally good, and each of them simply has one niche they particularly excel at
(Ruan Mei for break comps, Sparkle for Skill point greedy hypercarry comps, and Robin for FuA comps)
I never got the RM comparison either, now we can have another busted supp for the other side
the only i get comparision from ruan mei is the Dmg bonus ampified. the rest is their spesific or specilize more to say. tho, i really afraid Robin might be killed fast when you cant kill enemies quick enough. because all those atk mainstat she want. the good side? she is another dumpster relic that went wrong so bad, she will happy to use it. and that a Plus for me.
The ever strengthening follow-up roster lacks a sufficient number of matchups whose weaknesses perfectly overlap with their elements (but my God, what a terrible day to be enemy Bronya). To combat this, each of the additions to the ever strengthening follow-up roster bring an obscene damage ceiling on their own. Personally, I'll take that trade.
Lis soo poggers fr thanks for the amazing early guide
I’m japanese honkai player.
But, I always study with your videos. Your contents are clear and easy to understand! I will continue to support you❤️
MY GOAT GOT EARLY ACCESS LETS GOOOOOO
I currently don't have any of the top tier harmony limiteds just Tingyun and Bronya. Was planning on skipping Robin still for characters in 2.3 but I look forward to seeing your more in depth video about speed tuning. I like that in theory you can make up for energy issues through different ways aside from just lathering her with FUA units. But I am a bit unsure about relying on speed tuning just because relic rng is what it is.
None the less though I will keep an open mind and watch your next video, thank you.
Really liking the advanced speedtune setup. Would you be able to clarify if the speed requirements you mention there already take into account her trace+vonwacq?
The samples I gave there is with her trace and Vonwacq only.
I do wonder what her synergy would be like with Himeko Herta on PF, especially since extra damage on hit would probably work wonders when combined with Herta's Followup
Thanks for the vid.
Waiting for HMC guide
I’ve been prepping relics for chicken wing girl; was going for 161 speed teams, feeling vindicated now.
Every day is one step closer to full Harmony meta.
can Robin increase the dmg of JY hypercarry if the team comp is JY + Sparkle (161 spd) + Robin + Aven? and how to set Robin's speed if Sparkle has 161 spd?
First and foremost congrats on getting into the cc server, you really deserves it after all the efforts your done until this day 🎉😊
Is that robin/ting "combo" a different way to play hypercarry teams? You can always play it or it's only specific in certain situations? Are the requirements to play it too high for average players?
With the comfy Robin playstyle, Tingyun helps a lot because it takes too long for Robin to get her ultimate up and running. it is not really complex, simply keep using Tingyun's ultimate on Robin. The DMG% increase coming from Tingyun's ULT isn't really wasted because Robin herself can deal good damage.
Robin is so tempting, but i must stay strong for firefly
I skipped out on Aventurine so I can lose my 50/50 on Jingliu's banner to Gepard, so March is probably my go-to sustain for my FuA team... I might use up Clara and see how well she performs but I think Ratio + Topaz + Robin + March will be my FuA team until we get a new Abundance or Preservation FuA character.
Tbh the only reason I have for grabbing Robin is because I want to free up Ruan Mei from my DoT team so she can be paired up with Kamen Sam/Firefly together with Harmony MC; sure my DoT team might end up dropping a bit in performance by switching out Ruan Mei but it shouldn't be a big drop with all the things that Robin can provide.
Thanks for the video, it helped a lot with figuring out how to build Robin!
Congrats on the early access, queen! Come to think of it, your guides are too good for hoyo to not notice lol
ps: *Robin + Bronya + Sparkle tech from you waiting room*
I've been asking in multiple other channels comments if they could try robin and ruan mei together as im getting both e1 s1 (already have ruan mei e1s1). Of course Lisara comes through in the first video. This is actually my most hyped character to see you try out. The new strats you come up with are sure to be awesome. If you get the chance can you please try ruan mei and robin together with kafka and swan as i've seen no one even hint at trying it. Much love to you!!!!
Robin RM Kafka Swan can definitely work. I'll introduce different ways to play Robin with other supports and carries.
You touched on it a bit with Kafka, but what are your impressions on robin replacing ruan mei on a DOT team? I've heard people argue that she is almost as good or even on par with rm, but what are your thoughts?
There's just too many factors to consider but personally, I think Ruan Mei is still noticeably better for DoT teams. We will see though, I really need Robin to be in the official server because that is where my relics are available.
Hi Dreamy, thank you for the video. In the full review, could you please make a direct comparison between Robin and Ruan Mei? I would specifically like to know whether Robin is better for scaling with Attack whereas Ruan Mei scales with Break Effect and the implications on their personal damage. They seem to both fill similar team-wide bonuses, so it would be nice to know if Robin is just power creep or a sidegrade.
There's simply way too many factors to even make a fair comparison. I'd say both are very strong and doesn't have a significant power gap but Ruan Mei should still be noticeably better for DoT teams.
@@LisaraScarlet Understood, thank you for the reply.
year could be 2056, playing honkai star rail 4, and we'd still jam to ak music
When you mention the utilization of the advance forward from her kit and the planar set you provide a pseudo speed. How are you able to know the equivalent speed values of advance forward? Like for example, a 20% advance forward is it also a +20 in speed or do you use a math formula to calculate the pseudo speed of a character?
Easiest way is to get the AV, reduce the AV based on the advance forward then do 10,000 divided by the reduced AV.
Really good sell, really makes me want to pull for her. However I need to save Jades for Jade. I'll probably pull for her next time.
I like the fact that you are one the few guidemakers that don't mention that robin sings 😅😅😅
no bc this is the best quide ive seen in my 1 whole year of playing hsr.. thank you so SO much!!! but which one do you think is better? comfy build or advanced? im thinking of going with advanced cuz i dont think ill play her with tingyun all the time (or with follow up attackers cuz all ive got is an unbuilt ratio and an unbuilt clara)
Advanced is better but harder to build.
Great video explaining her strengths and different usage, do you think she is worth the pull if im a casual who still uses sustain for moc? For general usage ofcourse not only follow up teams
Yes.
Do you think Battle Isn't Over is better than the event LC on her? I can do follow-up team with Ratio+Topaz but no Aventurine (if potential team set-ups are relevant for this).
It could be better if you're lacking energy.
Quick question: Why using the A2 + Vonwacq trick to use Robin's ultimate before every other character 2nd action?
In my opinion, if Robin's ult was used right before the end of the round, you would squeeze 3 actions for Ratio, TY and RM which would be much more beneficial.
I wonder also how impactful, giving more actions to everyone with Robin, including RM vs Giving Action advance for only your Hyper Carry with Bronya/Sparkle is better in this scenario, as RM's SKill and Ultimate's buff will run out rather quickly.
With your suggestion, the team is only able to utilize Concerto state with 1 rotation and 1 more if the team managed to enter next wave w/o letting Robin act.
With my speedtuning, the team will be able to utilize Concerto state with 2 full rotations which has better chances of not letting Robin act so the team enters the next wave with her Concerto still up.
@@LisaraScarlet oh I see, thanks for the clarification, the Concerto's AV isn't fixed when entering next wave, it's based on it's current AV value when Round 1 ends?
It is always fixed at 90 SPD.
Thanks Lisara. I've been sort of on the fence if I was going to pull for Robin or not given that I have every Harmony character in the game to date. But at the end of the day, she enables some new team comps that look fun. I'm interested to see her on a Himeko + Herta team. I wonder if that could move such a team from not just excellent in PF but make it more suitable for MoC.
Similar to other Harmonies, it always depends who is the best per situation.
I read some things about a possible future. I am now very interested to see how Robin + Dr. Ratio + Jade might work. Long story short, the more I think about the possible team comps for Robin, the more convinced I am that I will pull for her. I'm way off in left field now, but thanks for getting my mind working on this character.
So would Clara be a good teammate for her? Or is the RNG in her having to be hit lowers the synergy?
The synergy is definitely there, just that you can't expect a big boost to Clara's performance because her base performance is already low by itself.
The BP Harmony LC is not a good option as well? Since Robin can stay put on the Cencerto stage for long streak of turns, seems like a good way to prolong a specific good buff rolled from that LC. It is still random but all 3 effects are good overall.
In the case you don't need the energy regen or you triggered the CDMG effect, this really kills Robin's own damage output. You need to be lucky with the ATK boost to make it worth.
Could you please say what you think about the following potential issues with her;
- she may struggle with SP generation in most teamcomps aside of IPC, JIngliu, Blade etc. some people were mentioning that she's basically unplayable with characters like DHIL or Seele because of how she vanishes during her ult and the DPS is left wit one less character to gen SP
- she provides more amp than RM but for much larger cost in reliability, you're too reliant on fua generating energy. 99% of her showcases were either in fua comps where she obviously performs great but I haven't seen anyone discussing her performance in any other comps.
- she favours sustainless comps so playing her for a regular player may be hard with ult once every 2-3 cycles (that's what you get without TY or HH in non fua comps)
1. Any team struggles with SP if they team up with SP intensive characters. There should be no problem as long as you have ways to counter it such as having a 160 SPD healer with S5 Multiplication or Pela's SP positive build, Sparkle in the team, etc. Most importantly, SP management.
2. There's definitely a big issue with Robin's ULT uptime but the thing is that what she provides while in Concerto state is much much more impactful than other Harmonies. it is 160 energy cost for a reason.
3. I wouldn't say she favors sustainless but she can be picky on which sustain she works best. Huohuo for example is really good with Robin.
@@LisaraScarlet Thanks for the response. So based on both your and other content creators statements about her, she has highest ceiling in the game compared to other harmonies but she's also much harder to utilise compared to other harmonies would you agree? While other RM and Sparkle obviously have their best teamcomps to use them in, they still work exceptionally well in other ones as well, meanwhile Robin works insanely well in some teams but it seems she can also not work at all in some others. Realistically in 2-3 cycles you probably won't see her ult more than once and even with how powerful it is, I don't think many teams will prefer this over some lower quality buffs (RM, Sparkle, TY) but with twice or even thrice the uptime. Personally I find her mostly as 0cycle machine rather than a general support compared to someone like Ruan Mei or Sparkle (outside of the Fua comp obviously), I can see her becoming go to support for short-cycling but I also expect her to be the last pick in general "comfort" gameplay and other modes like PF or SU.
Can I ask whether it will be better going for Robin's LC or RM's LC? (I think I can only secure one). I'm leaning towards RM's LC because of the +10 energy per wave plus my only other lc for her now is an S1 Memories of the Past while for Robin, aside from the event lc, I also have an S2 Bronya LC that I can give her. Great video too, I like that the showcase wasn't another IPC team showcase.
You can save for RM LC and just use the event LC for Robin.
Hey Lisa, I have two questions.
I know you mentioned a few alternatives for SLC, but I'm curious, in your opinion how big is the gap between it and the alternatives.
Second question. Between her E1 and her SLC, which one is yielding better results? If possible which one should take priority?
Signature LC is most likely better by 20% more or less than the Event LC. SLC fully enables Robin's damage dealing capabilities which is mostly what you get from E0S1 while E1S0 is leaning more towards enabling the core carry. Of course, Robin herself still benefits from E1 but E0 will still push her damage back.
@@LisaraScarlet Thank you for the information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.
For the hyperspeed set up (180 Spd variation), only 134 Spd for DPS or all team members ? Generally my supports are all 160+, thinking can it work with that speed or should I lower their speed to 134 thanks heaps
Yup, minimum 134 speed so that might as well be the damage dealer.
How much speed would you recommend for a Jingliu and Robin (preferably with Luocha with QuidProqQuo, 160 spd Bronya)? I can also do a 134 SPD Bronya
You can settle for the comfy build if you really can't meet the speed requirements of the advanced playstyle. If you think you can, I suggest following the 134 SPD team setup with Robin being at 180 SPD.
Do you think I can use Robin if my team comp is E2 DHIL, Sparkle (134 SPD), E1 Bailu (141 SPD ; S5 QPQ) and Robin (151 SPD)? Or should I just wait for Ruan Mei?
You can but if Robin isn't exactly meeting 180 SPD in that team, just settle for a slow build so you can get more ATK out of her. If you don't like how tricky it is to use Robin, you can just wait for Ruan Mei's rerun.
hello, dreamy so u personally build her slowly like not reaching 134 spd breakpoint and make atk boots instead? or is it good her to reach 134+ spd too?
No, my build would be using the one I explained in the advanced Robin playstyle. Slow Robin can just settle for 120 speed.
@@LisaraScarlet oh so u want high spped robin and also me too. thanks Dreamy!
thank you for encouraging me pulling for robin instead of skipping her
and congratulations for the access!
Wonderful and in-depth guide as always, Lis. I currently have a Vonwacq ATK Sphere and ER robe, and most likely will be running comfy without Tingyun. Would you still recommend I get a Fleet set or is what I have fine?
The Vonwacq won't help a slow build so you're missing out 8% ATK on her and for the team.
@@LisaraScarlet Thanks Lis, I'll go farm for Fleet ER rope
Would stacking Robin's E1 and Ruan Mei's ult good to use in a party? Or will it have diminishing returns
Stacking anything that is additive to each other would always result to diminishing returns (except for DEF shred). It is more about how much have you stacked already. Considering how rare RES PEN is, you don't need to worry about diminishing returns. In short, stacking them would be very good and you'll get amazing results.
Would her S1 provide a significant uptime buff to her Ultimate compared to the upcoming event LC? It's the main factor for me to pull for her lightcone, but I'm not entirely sure how much of a difference the ER will make. Though since I'm running Ratio Topaz Aventurine, energy will not be a problem.
Not really.
hey, thanks for video.. i have quite a few questions so i hope its okay and you can answer !
1: does getting S5 on robin actually help energy and her rotation and at E6 S5 with energy from both E2 and S5 does she still want to use ERR rope ?
2:assuming my allies would all be 134 speed (aside from robin) are at 134 speed capable of acting twice in first cycle but not using dance dance dance how much speed should i have on robin with her trace 25% + Von 50% ? additionally do i actually still want to use Von on her at E6?
3: would you mind touch abit about speed/advance when it comes to faster teams such as dots which have their speed anywhere between 140-180 ?
4:at E6 S5 what kind of build would you suggest on her? (i will be runing her with either my all E6 FUA team or my E6 dot team ) thanks alot !
1. The only time she doesn't want to use ER rope is if there's Tingyun in the team. Else, she is still very hungry for energy.
2. It was written in the guide, you need 180 SPD if you use Vonwacq only. If Robin is E6, might as well just focus on her damage instead of thinking about other playstyles.
3. DoT teams can still follow the SPD guidelines I wrote in the advanced playstyle. Any SPD higher won't benefit them.
4. 4pc Boxer, Space Sealing Station. ATK Body and Boots. Physical DMG Sphere. ER Rope. Make sure she always runs with Tingyun.
@@LisaraScarlet thanks alot !
Do you have plan for harmony trailblazers guild or triple advace setup? I dont know if it would be good or not
No plan for now.
Should I use Robin at the last cycle’s turn or just use it immediately?
Really depends on what you're trying to aim for.
Now I know how to build Robin! Tysm for the guide! The team I really want to see is a Bronya, Sparkle and Robin team. I am really curios how many actions out of your dps could you squeeze out with so many advances.
Robin is limited to creating pseudo 200 speed team so its still the same 6 actions for the carry if Sparkle and Bronya is in the team.
If i have to choose between ruan mei and robin which one would u suggest for general good to have?
Congrats on early access btw
Both are good to have but Ruan Mei is much more easier to use.
Congrats on the media server, love your content Lisara
I would like to know if SSS is a big difference from Ageless set
SSS is only for a solo carry Robin. It barely adds to her ATK buff.
i've seen fleet being recommended a lot for her. is there a particular reason? just want to know because i barely have any fleet pieces & its perks doesn't seem all that great compared to space sealing station
Because SSS doesn't give whoever the core carry much better ATK boost.
Hi Lisara, really love your guide videos. I'm concern that Can Robin using Dance Dance Dance lightcone for replacement ?
No, Dance3x doesn't work for Robin because she already advances everyone by 100%. You cannot advance a unit beyond 100% unless they actually got action delayed.
Boothill RM Robin HuoHuo looks interesting
Is she viable for Acheron?
I'm currently running Bronya + Sparkle + Pela for Acheron's team
wondering if she can replace Bronya and if the damage is higher than using Bronya
Bronya most likely still better if you're just focusing on Acheron's damage. Using Robin is already like using a duo carry setup with Robin being the 2nd carry.
Hey Dreamy, I wanted to ask, I can reach 200 SPD with kafka With E2 Robin Should i be able to get 3 enhanced attacks during her concerto state or is it useless regardless?
You need 150 AV to act 3 times at 200 speed but Concerto State only lasts for 112 AV. You need to be much much faster to be able to act 3 times within 1 Concerto State. It really is not worth it.
@@LisaraScarlet Thank you so much for the quick Response! Then I wont go for E2 Robin. Love your content keep up the great work! :)
Should I use Speed Boots on Ratio if I pair him with Robin? I used Ratio with Sparkle and he had attack boots
That really depends on what build you are going for Robin. If you are going for the comfy build, no need for SPD boots on Ratio.
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Not related to Robin but Is Tingyun supposed to go Atk% body and Atk% orb? I've always been going Def% for more survivability.
Depends but you do want ATK for both for carries that have massive base ATK like Ratio, Himeko, Argenti, etc.
Is it necessary for FUA team dealers to be 120 speed? Didn't they action once in first wave if they're not over 134 speed?
If you want to do the advanced playstyle, you need to follow the speed tuning requirements, else it won't work. If you can't meet the speed requirements, just settle for the comfy build.
I've been thinking to do a DoT comp with robin and asta as the supports (my Asta, Sampo and Kafka have 158/141/131 SPD respectively)
And I'm wondering if both sampo and kafka can perform 2 (or even 3) actions within robin's concerto state thanks to Asta's buff.
My asta's ultimate talent is at lvl 10 (+50 SPD)
You don't need Asta in that team so as long as you meet the 120/134 SPD for the team and 162/180 SPD for Robin, you'll have an optimized setup. it is impossible to get 3 rotations within Concerto state considering you only have 112 AV to do that.
does her dmg during ulti cont as break dmg? then boothill would be great with her, looks very intriguing pairng her with ty but idk how good she is when we already have a rm right?
No it doesn't count as break dmg nothing is getting broken here
She's good with fast-moving, multi-attacking, FUA/ultimate spam DPS..
Would Robin also be good for Jing Yuan and Argenti? My Dr Ratio is kinda shit team wise, the synergy section makes it sound more limiting in what teams she's good in, as some characters I either don't have or don't want. (I prefer pulling for characters I really like personality, design and kit wise for the units that I have)
Robin can fit into almost any team just that she is better on other teams than being with Jing Yuan or Argenti. Still, she should be okay with them.
@@LisaraScarlet Ok, thank you for your reply ^^/
This guide make me wanna pull her, even i dont have the best teams for her. The only dps that i have for her is dr. Ratio and kafka, but i have huo2 too. What do you think lisara???
Should i pull her for my kafka (kafka, blackswan, robin, huohuo) or wait for ruan mei rerun???
I think Ruan Mei is still better for DoT team but regardless, Robin is still a very strong support for any team setup.
So 180 speed Robin needs to be glued to RM and a Messenger carrier I guess. Otherwise that speed is too absurd. So if I want to build Robin for general team I should go for Slowbin?
RM herself can also hold onto Dance3x which further decreases the speed requirements. Slow Robin is still comfy to use as long as you use Tingyun with her.
How does Robin compare to Topaz in terms of sub dmg dealer and support on follow up teams?
Topaz support is honestly minimal but she does have more damage contribution. Harmonies are still better at supporting even if they can't match the damage of a true sub-damage dealer. The path itself and how they multiply damage of the core carry is just superior.
Great guide Lisara!! Question: Can you explain the speed calculation? How do we arrive with a 120 speed to a psuedo 162? The advance forward is 25% , so 120 * 1.25 is 150 speed, or am I missing something? Appreciate your explanation
Vonwaq?
Your formula is wrong.
10000/120 = 83.33
83.33 * .75 = 62.5
10000/62.5 = Pseudo 160 SPD
Although I just realized I probably typo'd in the guide lol.
@@LisaraScarlet Can you explain how you got the 0.75? Thank You
@@ranarth 25% advance forward (100-25)/100