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Stereotype of Saxophonists is shown by TwoSet: closing eyes while swinging, bending their backs like Ray LOL
Or epic sax guy!
But it's true😂
I think sometime you couldn't help it and it come naturally. Funny thing is, this happen to me and my friend when I first introduced fret of fire(guitar hero clone on pc) to him. We use keyboard to register input and when I first play it, my friend laugh at me when I automatically shaking my hand to made it look like I was doing a silly vibration. Then guess what, when it is his turn playing, he did the same unknowingly. We laugh it out loud for that.
i think this comes naturally when [music] and [standing] are combined
Yeah but as a saxophonist, this is true
Now we’re talking ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
Hi Nathan!
I thought of your “Classical vs Jazz Saxophone” series when watching this!
oh hey it’s mario kart lick guy
Yes, wassup Nathan
Ooohh weren’t you the one that ran over your saxophone
“Why is eddy so loud?”
Dude, tenors are either really quiet, or REALLY FREAKING LOUD. I swear there is no in between
FR THO, there was only two tenors in my class and I was the really quiet one while my buddy was super loud and got all the attention
I try to be as loud as possible hehe
@@megajareth I respect that lol. I’ve heard so many directors be “I’d rather have a loud player because it’s so much easier to bring it down than make them play louder”
so true, everyone thinks the barri's loud but the tenors are so abnoxiously loud.
@@henrymaxey9783 dude actually. (I play bari) and like, I… like to follow the dynamics
I have to remind the tenor next to me when it’s piano 💀 like dude.
If you ask me, I think Eddy would probably play tenor sax if he were to play a wind instrument. As for Brett, he seems to have oboe energy
I was thinking piccolo tbh
The soprano sax is like a loud blusey oboe. It's a good instrument to take a duo and play mediaeval dance music. However the important thing is that the two saxes should be slightly out of tune with each other (easy with the soprano)
@@harp167 triangle
JK
Who gets the garklein?
yes thoo
Emma is such a sweetheart, she kept telling them they did great even when they messed up
She looks great too ;-)
Yes and then there's Phoebe who is sooo savage 😆
@@Raine_Daily I loved it.
That's an example for all the nasty music teachers of how to teach properly.
then Phoebe entered the chat and turned the savage meter way up 😆
Well… you tried!!!
Insaneintherain without a top comment or even a reply!?
insaneintherainemusic is a TwoSet fan? That makes me really want a TwoSet Violin, The Consouls and insaneinthrainmusic collab!
LOL
ITS YOU
HAHAHAHA
I find it hilarious that Eddy picked the Viola of the saxophones! 😂
Actually, it's the Cello of the saxophones. (Violin = Soprano, Viola = Alto, Cello = Tenor, Double bass = Bass.)
As an (ex) tenor sax player, I am offended not only that you called it the viola of the saxophone, but also that being very wrong.
@@reinhardjurgens6526 pretty much
@@reinhardjurgens6526 just think you mean baritone instead of bass. There is a bass saxophone but it is much less common than the baritone because baritone is part of a sax quartet
😐
Classical Saxophonist here 🙋♀️I was a little shell shocked when Emma started the video with the Glazunov Concerto teaser. Took me 4 years to learn that piece.
My whole life has been "Oh you play saxophone?! I LOVE saxophone! Jazz music is my favorite!!!!" And watching their expression turn to disappointment as I say "....Actually I play classical." 🤡
Great sax lesson, Emma. I felt seen. 🥲
Was searching the comments section far and wide to see who else noticed it was glazunov!
As a fellow sax player, I love classical music more than jazz
classical sax team here
I didn't even know there was saxophone in classical music
@@freshbeansI didn’t know either, but now I’m obsessed with it.
eddy: oh dude, it's massive!
editor-san: he's talking about the saxophone
@Zixi Liu you don't want to know...
“I regret my choice”
THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID.
@Zixi Liu the di-
@@kevinnguyen552 *T H E M A L E G E N I T A L S*
Phoebe randomly crashing the video and repeatedly roasting them was the best!
maybe she's editor-san
Yes!
@@rhapsodyinblue111 editor-san used to play cello (she put a message on screen during the learning cello vid :D) maybe Phoebe played cello before? 🤔
@@Cookie_Comment I have a feeling Editor-san plays piano too, I think she showed it in one of the Ling Ling 40 hrs videos.
@@yourlocalmculover6664 What if Editor-san is actually Ling Ling????
They're not beginners they're just playing free jazz.
TENOOOORRRRRR!!!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For a fellow tenor sax player… DAMN.
It’s really hard to learn saxophone and it takes a lot of hard work. Also the trainers playing is just DAMN. Good job 👍🏽
I am about to start tenor this year
last year i played tenor, this year i'm playing bari
honestly, the bari is more fun to play, but the tenor gets much more interesting parts
TENOR ON TOP!! I’ve played 3 of the 4 and tenor has been my favorite
YAAAA TENOR IS SOOOO UNDERRATED love it mate!
@@cow1723 to each there own mate!
Lol Emma's so sweet trying not to hurt them while Phoebe was like nah bad is bad.
Phoebe is out for blood
Emma with a dump truck ✋🏼😩🤚🏼
@@juanpabloduarte2001 ?? what bruh
@@juanpabloduarte2001 down bad 💀
@@juanpabloduarte2001 bro chill the fuck out damn
I think there's no more noise pollution, but it's much better than the last time they played. At least the sound is not like a dying whale lol
There was no noise pollution when Bret played the clarinet, because no sounds were produced
@레몬민트녹차타르트 haha yeah xD
@@vikramkrishnan6414 lol you're right xD
I expected angry donkey sounds before watching the video, but they rly did much better!
I'm just impressed Emma was able to play without laughing. I could not stop laughing the whole video! But don't worry, as a saxophone player of 5 years I still remember trying to just make a sound
Fellow sax player here, I’ve been playing for 5 years now and I’m still finding ways to improve, making the sax super interesting for me because there’s still so much to learn~
I’ve been playing saxophone since 3 months ago XD
@@EchannelYT Sweet! Welcome to the sax family then ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
r u tenor or alto-?
@@urstrulykierra I mainly play alto, but I have played tenor in musicals and soprano for special occasions!
@@lemonduckz im an alto, i love it smmm!!
Phoebe roast, man:
"Student can't sound that bad"
"I think you're being too nice, they sounded terrible"
You guys should get her for some show/drama roast-- review
She’s always roasting people. From her first debut in TwoSetViolin in the “Learn the double Bass for 1 hour” to the “Musicians tell why their instruments are the best” video. Sensei Phoebe is such a savage and I’m enjoying her company.
Give her a mic!
Eddy, who thinks the tenor sax is huge, finally trying a baritone one day: 👁️👄👁️
wait till he sees the bass
@@michaelwaldo9363 or the contrabass
@@jazzmusictheorist Yeah I know, right
haha literally
Wait till he sees the contrabass trombone which is tall
Eddy: TOOT
Brett: TOOT
Eddy: TOOT
Brett: toot
Editor-san: lost ships at sea
Me: Losing it
The tired old men are relatable 😂
I didn't know l was anemic when l first started flute, l'd always get super dizzy. 'S all good now, tho, and l *freaking love* playing tenor in Jazz Band
Phoebe: why is Eddy so loud
Eddy: idk this tenor is soo....
Welcome to another episode of eddy blaming instruments
True
🤣🤣🤣
For beginners, y’all weren’t too bad actually, y’all should have heard my 6th grade sax class during the first month 😬😬
I bet it sounded like the rubber chicken vine
Where the guy pressed all of them at the same time
HAHA THE FIRST TIME WE HAD TO ACCORDER (I forgot what it’s called in english- but it’s like OH ITS TUNING BAHAHA YES TUNING) so the first time we were tuning, it was a mess
Same XD
@@arishem555 playing a different instrument when you already play one is actually easier for most musicians. Violin was a bit easier for me since I already play euphonium and Trombone.
@@arishem555 Of course haha, I'm just explaining why they play a bit better than new musicians :]
Ms. Emma is absolutely the loveliest and kindest!!! I enjoyed this episode so much, seeing them trying so hard to successfully play their parts 😂 They never failed to give us a quality content!!!! It's so satisfying to see them hit the note! Congraaats 2set 🤩
i’m so glad eddy chose the tenor, i always get excited whenever i see a fellow tenor sax player and even for beginners you both did really well!!
YESS HELLO TENOR FRIEND!!
As a clarinetist (once upon a time), Brett's embouchure is actually pretty good! I immediately noticed Eddy making the classic mistake of puffing out the cheeks while blowing; this actually wastes a lot of air and effort. Learning to control that is one of the first big hurdles imo! Well done Brett!
Yeah I am a student and I have been playing for years so I helped the new band kid out and that’s his one mistake
i started band this year (6th grade) i play alto sax the cheek puffing was hard but the real challenge is getting the sweet spot on the reed and mouthpiece
😁
😁
@@marygonzales3148 As long as you keep practicing you will get it soon enough. I used to play tuba so I can't exactly relate but it gets so much more fun to play once you get those kinda things down.
I'm actually happy Eddy isn't playing the baritone sax, but the tenor. The amount of air he would need to hit the low notes might cause him to be dizzy.
Tenor is best anyway.😉
@@elissahunt I've never played the tenor sax before 😅
@@elissahunt tenor sax 🤝 (being the best type) 🤝 tenor vocals
@@craneisthename _Cries in baritone vocals_
@@cobrasys don’t worry, baritones and bari sax both are 2nd place. Sopranos at 3rd, and Altos share being the most annoying.
Can we please have more Phoebe and Emma in the channel, they are amazing
The fact that Emma can still produce a good sound while smiling in between notes is awesome. Smiling and laughing completely ruins your emborchure
Whenever I saw eddy puff his cheeks I had to try not to laugh
if eddy twisted the mouthpiece clockwise a little, he'd probably play like a natural. he's blowing in it crooked and still getting a decent sound around the end. brett just seems to be panicking. he makes a mistake, panicks, makes it worse, panicks, and soon there's only squeeks and silence. 40 hours of practice should fix that right up.
It didn't take me that long. Way longer on piano. I'm lucky to have a good tone.
Emma: "use half a thumb as reference"
Eddie: (shoves entire mouthpiece down his throat)
thats what me and my friends do in band class when the director says to take more mouthpiece
He's got practice😳😳😳
@@checkitmug7448 for me 😜🤤🥵😬😳😈👹😏☺😍🥰
Eddie's already got the tenor energy right. Give him a barry and he'll be doing Leo P stuff any day!
Have to like for the mention of Leo P!
B a r r y
it's spelled Bari, you wouldn't spell it barrytone saxophone. Barry's your neighbor, bari is your saxophone. :)
@@GUmbolyaa5112 Depends on where you're from. It's how its spelled in most of the Germanic languages, and in the original Greek.
@@ericmyrs I had no Idea, my apologies.
Thanks I really needed this as a confidence booster. I've been feeling a little down about my saxophone playing, but after watching this I feel much better and motivated to play.
you got this!!! i would recommend focusing on either your technical skills (playing tricky passages, playing quickly, etc.) OR the quality of your sound at a time. work on slooowing things down & focus on nailing each note. you will naturally speed up the more you learn it
real
Emma felt so bad after the last video where they messed up horrendously trying to play famous tunes on the saxophone that she decided to teach them how to play it properly without noise pollution
As a classical saxophonist, it makes me so happy that classical saxophone is getting more recognition. :)
I was in Oregon AllStste Symphonic Band (so not Wind Ensemble lol I'm not that good) recently, and the guest conductor hosting said "I want to show you, AND your parents that anything an orchestra can play you can too." There were LOVELY reed and brass solos, it was so fun to hear.
I’m a jazz player, wish I could play classical as well cause it’s beautiful
@@trashpanda6770 do u have a classical mouthpiece?
Yeah bro it’s so hard to get a good classical sound even with the correct mouthpiece
jazz better lmao im joking btw
Eddy: "oh dude its massive"
Editor-san: "he is talking about the saxophone"
Can I just say that as someone who is a lot on youtube, I truly think twoset's editor is the best editor I've seen. Their sense of humor is so on point. Even tho only Eddy and Brett are visually in the video, you feel like there are 3 main characters, and one of them breaks the 4th wall in the best way possible, and sort of reacts along with you. Also Editor-san roasting brett and Eddy is my favorite genre😂😭
My god...
I used to play a tenor, and then I had to quit music for a multiple reasons...
Just a couple of days ago I suddenly remembered my sax-past openly, and this realisation was the hardest, though the most joyfull thing.
Just now TwoSet reminded me, how unbelivable it sounds and how happy I was playing it...
I f*cking need this once again! Why the hell are saxophones so expensive??
If I’m dating a woman and she doesn’t respond to “it’s TwoSet sexy time,” I don’t think she’s the one.
lamentable
He said SAXY time
She just needs more practice
My dad plays the sax and teaches...so I hear a lot if "hot cross buns" sounding like that... So many memories😂😂😂😂😂
OMG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!! I play tenor saxophone, I mostly play jazz on sax but I love classical music so that's why I'm here. I'm so proud of these guys! I remember starting out half of my friends couldn't even get a note out😂 Eddy and Brett are so good for beginning. Honestly I couldn't do that much starting out.
Emma is an awesome teacher. My dearest wife got me an alto venova (I wanted cheap casual wind instrument) for Christmas and as someone who played cello all me life and never have played reed instruments, I can totally relate to the struggles yall had in this video. Thanks for the laughs and encouragement that makes me want to keep trying and not give up. From +1 tired man to another.
don't give up!!!! try practicing with just the mouthpiece & focus on your embouchure, tonguing, etc. then work your way up. it will sound silly but it's important to learn the fundamentals before trying to actually play songs
also make sure you suck on the reed for a minute or two before assembling. the reed needs to be flexible to play nicely
Yay, TwoSet branching out into non-string territory! The saxophone redemption is so satisfying. You guys are having way too much fun. It's genuinely so interesting learning about instruments I'm not familiar with and getting to know your musician friends. And 'lost at sea', 'overcooked buns'... we love you, Editor-san XD
They’re actually not that bad! Talented musicians all around!
They're actually...that bad!...musicians all aroud!
40 hrs of practice and in 3 years time they will already be amazing
Their sounds are like the most unwanted song. It sounds like garbage but everyone wants it.
Mission failed.
@@nicketaevani-fzukunf007 They are just very new beginners in saxophone, who had only just taken ONE saxophone lesson. What can you expect?
@@geckogeico2212 They are just very new beginners. What can you expect from any new beginner, especially in their very first lesson?
Love the edits! 😂 Lost ships at sea, +1 tired old man
Emma seems like a great teacher, very patient and encouraging
It was so nice how she put things in strings player terms! An amazing teaching strategy- Emma also seems to have a rlly great personality too
"Overcooked buns" had me dying! Also love the contrast between Emma's encouragement and Phoebe's roasting lol
Personally, beginning of wind instrument is kinda fighting against headache (due to breathing). They did pretty well.
Yes! They should learn like my band director taught us -- breathing exercises first! Breathing in 2 counts, breathing out 4 counts.
omg i can relate. When I first started playing flute my head hurt so much because i wasn't used to blowing so much air out.
With the clarinet I kept getting lightheaded lol
I kinda got that when I started playing saxophone ( alto ) as well lol
As an 8th grader who has played saxophone for almost three years, I got to say this was hell to watch and I’m no professional I just do it as a hobby😂😂😂
It’s actually a bit heartening today see twoset struggle so much. They’re such good musicians and usually pick other instruments up relatively quickly, this just makes them seem a bit more “normal” lol
Sax got me through school. Never practiced but ended up as lead in both bands as alto, overcame stage fright soloing in front of the entire school, got the art award, got invited to art school, brought my average up significantly, and now realizing i just abandoned the one thing that supported me when i needed it the most the moment it became unnecessary.. damn.. excuse me while i go shopping for a sax.
I have a BFA in Illustration and I play sax (and clarinet). Go buy that sax and start playing! You won't regret it.
Go get that sax!
Have you got that sax yet??
Great story! Thanks for sharing.
Go get that sax 🎷
I’m a trombone player of five years, but I’ve recently decided that sax is an instrument that I never even considered and that now I need to try it.
Don’t worry fellow brassians, I’m not switching, I just want more instruments.
I think the sax has the perfect amount of difficulty for the maximum entertainment value. Its not too hard so you actually can play something but it's hard enough for you to screw it up in a glorious way.
4:09 AND WHO SAID MARCHING BAND ISNT A SPORT >:3
I have played alto sax since the 5th grade and didn’t know about the altissimo register!!
Note to self: sax instructor is the kindest instructor ever.🌻
They are indeed!!
Well, you need so much patience for teaching sax.. normally it takes a long time until the students make some better sounds :D
I think it's just emma, all the sax instructors I've had are terrifying
True
@@kylaho5134 my first teacher was terrifying but he quit so I must of been a really bad student lol
From a saxophonist's perspective, Eddy is actually killing it!
He looks good holding the saxophone too -- I would have guessed him to be a sax player before violin if he was just holding the instrument
You mean Brett? I think he's doing much better than Eddy.
@@Checkmate1138 Nah fam, he means eddy. Brett is just squealing which usually happens when you cant blow the low notes due to bad embrochure and the notes eddy is playing are an octave lower.
@@Checkmate1138 yeah, eddy's got a good sound after only playing for a short time. brett's sound wasn't that good, but as a saxophone player myself, i can confirm that it's much harder to get a good sound out of the soprano sax, so he's also doing really well for just starting
@@sofiaarya6169 Ah well, I'm a pianist not a wind player, so I can't really comment. For me, Brett sounded better, don't know why 😂
09:30 they are laughing about him but obviously he is the only one doing the correct and legit saxophone movement while playing
5:51 "ₕₑₕₑₕₑ"
The fact that I immediately thought that they would do a video about learning the saxophone after the guess the pieces video is just... *wow*
Interesting
AMAZING
aMAAAAzing
They actually did really good for beginners. I was surprised Eddy chose tenor. I agree with Emma that it really suits him. The only thing I would advise for Eddy is to not use so much mouthpiece.
I love that I immediately recognized Emma's demonstration as the Glazunov piece I played for solo and ensemble last year! Sounded beautiful!
Emma reminds me of my mother, not only because my mom played sax in marching band, but because they’re both sweet and kind.😊
It's the most violinist thing ever to naturally want nothing to do with alto 😂😂😂
Why?
@@lrg6212 viola is an alto range instrument
when editor san put "lost ships at sea" i lost it HAHAH
They improved so much so fast!! It's very impressive! I'm planning in forwarding this video to my band teacher from my very first year on band and asking her if I was kind of like this when learning (I learned to play it pretty well surprisingly fast). This was absolutely hilarious and kind of like a throwback to some of my earlier band memories. I learned a couple of good tips on how to improve my embouchure as well! Thank you!
I play tenor, and as a short person it goes down way past my hips, and then I just see Eddy holding it like an alto-
My partner played clarinet and sax into his thirty's in March of this year, he had a stroke. Music therapy has brought him back. While loss of sensation in his left hand made the clarinet very difficult, the sax has brought him back.
That's wonderful to hear! Wishing him a speedy and complete recovery :)
Thank you for the well wishes and kind thoughts. He is doing great 👍
@@charlesduit5610 Glad to hear it!
Wind instruments be like:
“That’s it, just get some air through.” ☺️
“More…” 😈
As a self proclaimed 'band kid', I can firmly confirm that this is a demonstration of orchestra players having orchestra problems. But it's also proof that you can overcome these problems, like demonstrated.
As a saxophone as my secondary instrument (bassoon as my primary) Eddy's facial expressions playing tenor were absolutely amazing
who else is waiting for twoset to make a cover of a symphony or something playing all the instruments by themselves
That would sound terrible. But I will be listening serval times.
I'm ready to buy a ticket
brett: it's like kissing someone
eddy: twoset sexy time
the silent after that kill me 😂
I feel like he tried to make a pun using sexy and sax but it failed 😂
I actually love these puns, they remind me TwoSet older before-PG videos with more adult content (like making fun of composers STDs and such).
Eddy: **chooses tenor**
Me: **looks across room at my tenor**
**happy saxophonist noises**
8:50 eddy sounds like hes being forced to play while crying
It’s oddly fun watching Twoset struggling on wind instruments
Always is, as a woodwind player I find it amazingly hilarious.
Yesss! Woodwind series is hilarious!
Especially the episode with clarinet when he cant even make a proper sound xD
At this point, they're going to set up an orchestra of their own and single handedly play with their clones
Oooh! Great idea for a vid!
10:02 new band. The traumatic trio
brett knew exactly what was going to happen when he said the tounge touches the tip.
I teach a lot of saxophone, so this was priceless! She did a good job.
There are two types of people -
Emma : you did so good! You are secretly saxophone players
Pheobe : you're being too nice they sound terrible
Why is Editor San so funny! Best sense of humor. "lost ships at sea" "overcooked buns"
They actually did so well by the end! A true example of talented musicians!
it's always interesting hearing the comparisons between the violin and other instruments. i thought it was really cool when she used bowing to explain how to use breath!
Emma was very constructive and overall such a good teacher!!! The end product was amazing!
Eddy's tone was (occasionally) really nice, although his neck strap was a little too high. Mouthpiece was trying to go up his nose. A fun video though. Took me back to my early days playing alto and tenor.
@9:22 Eddie giggled into the sax, got me laughing so hard. Love the vid!! Great job everybody!
YES!!!!!!!! I’m a classical saxophonists and I’ve been waiting YEARS for this. And I love the Concertino da Camera excerpt at the end
This whole video was so wholesome. Emma’s patient teaching, the guys picking it up so quickly, and their random moments of jamming out.
1:28 - 1:31 The tenor sax is somewhat close to the vocal range of the bari sax since the tenor voice is an octave higher than the baritone, but the tenor sax naturally plays at a much higher range of notes than the baritone where the tenor sax's notes in concert pitch range from Concert A flat in the staff in Bass Clef to altissimo concert E flat in bass clef whereas the bari sax ranges in concert pitch from concert C below the staff in Bass Clef to Concert A flat above the staff in Bass Clef (the reason I refer to the Bass Clef in my explanation is because: Tenor voiced instruments or lower tend to be written in this clef for composers that write their entire musical scores in the key of C (Concert Pitch), and my background is that I played Euphonium in Bass Clef predominately (even though just like the Tenor Sax, it can also transpose to B Flat Treble clef and I know how to read that as well), so it's easier for me to transpose the notes that since that's what I'm used to). So the instruments are much further apart in terms of range of notes, but are closer to vocal range and size.
Tenor/bari player here. I would like to clarify that the tenor is in fact a fifth above the bari, that will be all
Edit: It is the alto that is an octave above the bari. Almost forgot to mention that too
@@karthussakamoto I see. Thanks for the clarification
You both did so well! And Emma is a fantastic teacher (and a lovely person)
You know, the best part of learning instruments is that no matter how difficult it is, if you just keep practicing, it becomes instinctive to the point where you don't have to think anymore. You just do it. This video reminds me of those times I struggled learning cello and sax.
My dad is a saxophonist and I showed him this video and then he told me I was grounded LMAOO
lol
Lol Wut bahahahah
Editor san: “lost ships at sea” that’s exactly what I was thinking!!!! Had me laughing so hard! 😂😂😂
The way editor-san had to specify that eddy was talking about the saxophone💀
I'VE DONE MY WAITING. 12 YEARS OF IT. Finally, as a saxophonist I really enjoyed it!
Finally some saxophone 🎷
Amazing
she has such an interesting tone! it combines both the less smooth but still beautiful tones of charlie parker and johnny hodges with some of the more traditional classical tone as seen in Bolero and the l’Arlesienne; i love it!
This is honestly a dream come true, I learned to play violin first, then in 7th grade I picked up the saxophone, I have tried other instruments since then, and they're nice and all, but the violin and saxophone have been my favorite and I love seeing people trying to learn the saxophone (or the violin, but you guys already know that XD)
Emma is a wonderful teacher and they truly were amazing. Starting with a true beginners piece and scales like any student rather than throwing them immediately in the deep end was fun to watch. I really hope that they explore some brass instruments next! Having a true appreciation for the range and difficulty of different instruments only helps you grow as a musician and enjoy music more!
Yes I really want them to try and learn a brass instrument too!
I'm not even halfway through but i just HAD TO pause to comment. Editor-san's touches of brilliance are awesome! Props to editor-san :)
EXACTLY! I came here to do the same thing
"why is mine not making a sound?"
"...probably because you did something wrong.. "
These little things are just *chef's kiss*
“Ships lost at sea” 🤣
Soprano sax is probably the hardest to get into from the other saxophones
hearing her teach is so soothing because my Saxophone teacher was very chaotic and lived on the principle of 'you already play piano u should know how music works' on the basics and ended up helping me bs my way to my grade 8