When 4 Navy SEALs SMOKED 35 Insurgents... (*ACTUAL FOOTAGE*)
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Operation Red Wings was a significant military mission that took place in 2005 in the Kunar Province of Afghanistan. It was a part of the larger Operation Enduring Freedom, which aimed to eliminate combatants in the region.
The mission's primary objective was to COK a high value target. A four-man Navy SEAL reconnaissance and surveillance team, comprising Lt. Michael Murphy, Petty Officer 2nd Class Danny Dietz, Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew Axelson, and Petty Officer 2nd Class Marcus Luttrell, were inserted into the mountainous terrain where this target was believed to be operating.
Unfortunately, the mission faced immediate challenges when the team encountered a group of local goat herders. The SEALs faced a tough decision, and ultimately, they released the herders, unaware that their location had been compromised.
Soon after, the team found themselves under heavy attack by a much larger force of over 50 men. The ensuing battle was intense, and resulted in a historic military catastrophe.
Lt. Michael Murphy's heroic actions during the battle earned him the Medal of Honor posthumously. Marcus Luttrell, the only surviving member of the team, wrote a book titled "Lone Survivor," which later inspired a film adaptation sharing the same name.
Operation Red Wings remains a somber and heroic chapter in the history of the United States' involvement in Afghanistan.
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I respect you for listing everyone that lost their lives in this operation. Not just the 3 seals
Those insurgents never got there virgins. What a joke of ppl
There were more than three SEALS that were lost. What do you mean?
@@ItsMeBigTime Read again. He said he respects the choice to list all the people who lost their lives, not just the 3 seals who were with Luttrell.
@@ItsMeBigTime most people when they talk about this only mention Michael Murphy, Matthew Axelson, and Danny Dietz as the casualties. But there were more in the chinook that died too but no one mentions them.
9 other seals and 8 helicopter crew were killed. 12 seals not 3
I was a machine gunner in 2/3 on that deployment. That’s actually me on the .50 in that short clip at the end. This is the best short documentary I’ve seen on Red Wings. Most of what I’ve seen including the books and movies get a lot of the facts wrong. The lead up with the difficulties of being the only Marine grunt unit in country at the time being at the whim of SOCOM was very accurate. After Redwings we tried to work on our own as much as possible. RIP to everyone who passed that day, I’ll never forget it.
Wouldn’t call this a documentary. Tbh
Have you read victory point by Ed Darack? He was a reporter out with you guys on that pump. If so, what did you think of the book?
I was on the recovery mission 2 days later. It was absolutely exhausting.
@@kekistanimememan170 that's actually the appropriate definition.
@@jonathanwilke9562 documentary are supposed to tell the truth. Something victory point has done ages ago.
This is just a whitewashing of the decision making failures of both command and the team sent in.
Having served myself, the controversy surrounding these events tells me one thing:
No one with officers rank wants to accept the personal responsibility that they let 15 men die due to poor mission planning and refusal to provide AO organic unit availability. They put those men in a trap, and its no wonder that these four men were under such duress and strain that the only option they had was to attempt to flee due to the rapacious ferocity the Taliban had to offer that day, regardless their numbers.
Everyone in charge is culpable because they didn't stick to their guns and use their heads. They let hubris and the idea of "invincibility" get in the way of tactical and strategic planning. The long term effects of this operation would be felt all the way to our withdrawal in 2021.
All these different conflicting perspectives is just memoirs of people who don't want to admit they were part of this grand mistake. You will never read a memoir where someone says "I was wrong". Same as combat reports.
you didn't use the word 'rapacious' correctly.
I'm not a serviceman nor have an extensive knowledge of military operation. However incompetence of leadership I've heard over the years has severely crippled any motivation I have to join
We lost a lot of very skilled soldiers in that operation. The enemy surely wouldn't have let out cattle farmers go if role were reversed. I have mad respect for anyone who goes and fights expecting death for our country. There is a lot to fight for despite the bs we see in our news. That's what happens when people are spoiled too long
@@josephtardio1086 if you’re gonna be that guy, at least explain why.
Unfortunately, the buck stops with LtCmdr Kristensen with how that op went. There's a lot of controversy surrounding Luttrell's account and for good reason. At best, Luttrell is misremembering what happened. That's not my opinion, that's based on the information provided from everyone else, including other SEALs, DEVGRU operators, Rangers, and the Marines who all responded to go and rescue Luttrell and recover the bodies of the other servicemembers. The person who approved the op to go forward as it did was Kristensen. The USMC planned the operation and invited various SEAL teams, including DEVGRU, and CAG to participate. Each unit was informed of the necessities for the op to go successfully. SEAL Team 10 did none of the things that were recommended and Kristensen knowingly sent them out with comms that weren't strong enough, with the most obvious insertion method possible, and with nowhere near enough support in case things did go bad.
Now do the one where a SEAL team abandoned their attached Air Force Combat Controller John Chapman on the side of a mountain to fend for himself
Facts !
They didn’t abandon Chapman and I’m tired of seeing this narrative thrown around. The op and fallout can be debated but what happened on Roberts Ridge isn’t on that SEAL team.
In short, against the recommendation of the ground force officers from Delta and DEVGRU in the area, a separate AFO team that was new to the area was sent in to accomplish their capture/kill mission. This team included CCT John Chapman and SEAL Operator Neil Roberts. On their way to the mountain peak in Chinook helicopters, they came under fire which led to Roberts falling out of the helicopter about 30-40 feet. The SEALs reported this and the Team Leader, Slab, organized for his guys to go back and get Roberts. They landed and were greeted by heavy enemy resistance at the top of a mountain peak. Chapman led the charge against the enemy and was wounded multiple times, seemingly dying after he took a round to the chest. Slab had just lost two members of his team and was getting overwhelmed, he proceeded to pull his men back off the ridge and exfil. I don’t know anyone who would’ve done differently in that situation.
After the predator showed that Chapman had survived and fought on, and Navy Special Warfare pushed back on Chapman’s Medal of Honor, that’s where the controversy starts.
@@TheJazzGuy75 Except for the part where Mako 31 were the ones to barge in uninvited and refused CAG's intel brief on the ongoing operation, and specifically approached the peak ignoring what CAG's intel shop told them about it, including where HMG nests were spotted and how to avoid at all costs that face of the mountain (they would later land directly under the guns of bunkers CAG told them about). Chapman attached himself to Mako when they showed up and he heard they were going in without a CCT, and his actions in charging and holding off the enemy saved Mako, after he was mortally wounded he was making radio calls that we know Mako were receiving yet they never responded, only other coalition forces attempted to get in contact with Chapman.
Everything that happened on Roberts Ridge is directly the fault of Mako 31's leadership.
Having met John when he was younger and having served with several members of his family, he would not have wanted ANYONE to come back and even attempt a rescue. He knew like every operator that once he fell out of that helo, that he was probably not going to make it. That is why he fought so ferociously, in my opinion, as he wanted to make sure those insurgents remembered him.
@@Ihasanart The fault lies on DevGRU officer Vic Hyder and the JSOC CO Gregory Trebon. They were the ones that ignored the warnings of the AFO cell leader, CAG officer Peter Blaber. Slab and his team just followed bad orders that forced impossible deadlines to meet. Btw, the CAG AFO teams had no knowledge of those Al Qaeda bunkers on Taka Ghar. The orbiting AC-130 and UAVs with their FLIR sensors couldnt even see those positions, and there were no confirmed SIGNIT hits coming from that mountain at the time
It's a shame that the role of Mohammad Gulab - the man who rescued Luttrell - is being talked small, as well as his accounts of the events. And Luttrell's accounts of the events were highly dubious, including the initially cited number of 200 insurgents that attacked them.
Yeah I read that that it was actually between 8-12 people they were fighting against, that Luttrell had 11 full magazines when Gulab found him and also the American forces that went in where the firefight happened afterwards found no bodies of enemy fighters
In islam, the dead needs to be buried almost immediately so it can be said that the dead were taken off the battlefield and buried. Not far fetched
@Ricky_Spanishh there is video of the afghans that day. You never see more than 8 individuals and no casualties. The rangers found no evidence of enemy dead or wounded. The burial thing is cope
@@Connor_. To play devils advocate for the last point you made, not finding bodies means next to nothing. Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters drag bodies away after firefights to hide how many of their numbers were killed and to keep identities hidden, preventing other relatives in their ranks from going onto watch and HVT lists.
@@Ricky_Spanishh in this video of the actual gunfight there can’t be anymore than 10 fighters
czcams.com/video/PokmGEGxENM/video.htmlsi=oGteeyOvyAZs4r0L
I live in the area where Lt. Michael Murphy is from and we have monuments for him all over the place including a lake side park named after him. Our local fire department even has a mural with his photo on the side of one their brand new fire trucks.
Compare that to New York, where they paint ‘pride’ flags on fire trucks.
@@TalkingFlannelHe’s from NY lol
@@frankcastle5285I believe he meant NYC.
Didn’t a kid do something to one of those monuments?
@@officerrebar3839a few years back yeah
Evidently the USMC were building this huge intricate mission that had contingencies and QRF, but the SEALs sniped the mission and totally botched it. One mistake being that they misunderstood how shitty the mountains were for their COMs, to which the Marines had warned them to take more powerful sets, though the SEALs figured they knew better. Also a week before insertion, the SEALs kept doing fake inserts all over the nearby mountain range to hopefully confused the ACM and Shaw forces. Unfortunately this only alerted them to a possible incursion of some coalition force. The 4 man team also didn't hide the ropes after they were inserted.
I love that you info over this mission , I saw before a real footage of these 35 taliban and they were only 7 or 8 of them and they killed the seals in less than 40 minutes, but I am going to see this video until the end to see the actual footage he is talking about
I've seen the old real footage. There wasn't 100s. Maybe a dozen or so. A fireteam with light MGs will sound like 100 people in the woods. Rip to the boys.
There’s tons of instances in military history of the “elite” seals getting their ass handed to them, mostly because of their egos
@thehangrygamer7138 not really but ok.
Even SEALS are human and make mistakes. I completely understand that viewpoint because they're not demigod heros. Fuckups can happen at any level of training
Obviously many have heard this story several times but this is so good & heartfelt that it almost feels like the first. So amazing & thankful you're able to get this footage & put these together for us. I look forward to every single piece of your work dropping & always try to share with friends & on social. You're the man Popo, can't wait for more! LFG USA!!
My dad is in the credits at the end of the movie. He was a chaplain that got deployed to Bagram 2 weeks before the events. The picture of the ramp processional at the end shows him leading the processional with a Catholic chaplain on his right. The Catholic guy has a white and gold stohl, my dad is wearing the other one.
One of his good friends at Bagram was a SEAL who died on the chinook sent in for backup. I forget his name, but Dad saw him in his field service almost every Sunday. He was a regular attendee as a Protestant himself. RW happened the next day on Monday, where he died in the chinook. His deployment was hours away from ending, and his C-130 flight home to his wife and two daughters was slated for that Tuesday. Fricken sucks man.
edit: to the brovet who's boxers are in a knot for me not remembering the name of someone I never met, in addition to me being 4 when this happened, screw off or turn your comment replies back on. I reiterated the story of my *dad's* experience in a CZcams comment section, which he told me *when* *the* *movie* *was* *released.* I'm in the process of entering the Air Force as a med student. I owe no one anything here. Get off your high horse because my dad was there unlike you and still deals with the effects of what happened that day because he lost his close friend and helped comfort his wife and daughter when he finished his deployment.
🙏🏻
Shit really sorry for your loss man
@I_Dcompany his pops didn't die. Reading comprehension not too strong..huh?
@@kilakr13 In my opinion, this doesn't seem like the thread to insult other people. I think something like a: "it would actually be his fathers loss, in a way. either way it sucks and RIP" would be a lot more respectful.
Look on his wikipedia, there was only 7 Taliban, none were killed, Marcus had all 7 clips of ammo left. The guy that saved him. Even says Marcus’ story is false.
Of course respect to all the fallen, including the Nightstalkers. Respect also to the honourable truck driver and his village.
NSDQ! The actions of Major Reich were inspiring.
Nothing honorable about helping a foreign invasion conquer your country and dictate its legal system. Nah 😂
Analyst here. The bit about the goat herders always struck me as BS - for one thing, a lot of guys who knew Murphy, his father and colleagues included, say it would have been completely out of character for him to even consider murdering them. For another, it wouldn't even make sense to do so. If they were already going to extract, why not just take them with them and then let them go when extraction arrived? If you just shoot them and leave them, you're giving the enemy a propaganda gift from god. Murphy was a thoroughly professional officer, so he'd have known that very well.
The truth, I'm afraid to say, is that they were probably compromised the moment SOCOM decided to use a helicopter.
I've been up in mountains and let me tell you, you can hear restaurant chatter from two miles away down the valley. The Taliban included men who fought the Soviets for ten years. The Soviets were *very* fond of helicopter insertion. Those bastards would have been intimately familiar both with the sound of a helicopter, and how to tell what direction it was coming from.
This was a botch up. SOCOM ignored the advice of the Marines on the ground, took a bunch of SEALS with no prior combat experience or knowledge of the terrain, and sent them right into a trap.
You're right. The "vote" to murder civilian goat herders was almost certainly fabricated for the book. Luttrell's own AAR had no mention of any vote and like you said, it's incredibly doubtful and distasteful to think that an American officer would even consider putting murder up to a vote.
Exactly and Marcus Lutrell lied about a lot of stuff. There were only about 7-14 insurgents and zero died. The fight lasted like 20 mins and Marcus was found with all his ammo. But his story sounds better
There were only 8-10 insurgents on the mountain that day. How did they kill 35?
I don’t think they killed a single one
I knew Michael Murphy. He was a singer at a church band I played guitar in. My friend died tragically the night before we had practice. He consoled me with a particular kindness. This world needs more people like him. Thanks to all.
So was your church also deployed to Afghanistan along with the SEALs? I'm just trying to wrap my head around how Murph was suppose to have church band practice while deployed to Afghanistan in 2005. There was no Zoom (2011), Microsoft Teams (2017), etc. So unless your church band was in Afghanistan, how were you guys going to practice?
@@realmenhavelittledogs2661 people have lives before they join the military. They don't hatch soldiers yet.
@@doit9854 Yeah, and I'm just trying to establish a timeline. By most accounts, Michael Murphy wasn't a religious guy. And yet he was a singer in a church band according to you in a CZcams comment section. Sorry if I find your comment a bit unbelievable, but when you are a singer in a church band you tend to be religious. And again, nothing I've read about Murphy has painted him as a religious guy.
@@realmenhavelittledogs2661 I'm not religious either. I like to play guitar.
@@doit9854 But again, what you were stating goes against what people who knew Murphy have stated about him.
More like 4 SEALs got rolled by 8-12 Taliban who knew the terrain, knew where the SEALs were and had better positioning. Fucked up story all together, 4 SEALs died because piss poor planning and procedure and 8 more SEALs, including 8 Army special forces members perished in a QRF which was shot down. Also from some sources I've read, Luttrell apparently had mostly full magazines so whatever happened took place very quickly and he apparently ran for his life.
No it was a long gunfight but lutrell had the only suppressed weapon where he was sniper/medic and in the captured footage that’s cut and still 30 mins long the 3 that died had m4’s you could hear returning fire but maybe 3-5 suppressed shots. Lutrell either ran or got knocked out early from that frag. Also when Murphy is mortally wounded you hear him calling lutrells (the team medic) name several times.
@@NotThatGuyPal.A sniper and a medic...you don't say? That Marcus is a super secret squirrel.
Fuk outta here
@@NotThatGuyPal.check out Green Barrett Chronicles, the actual Seal in that unit tells a completely different story, and few other podcast with other seals and rangers. “Marcus come back!” just to give you a hint on what happen 😉
Gulab (the man who saved lutrell) even said the firefight lasted no more than 40 mins. Him and many other villagers were in the area and could hear everything.
@@NotThatGuyPal.Completely wrong, the rangers after action report stated Luttrell had all 11 magazines full. Axelson had a suppressed weapon and in all likelyhood was the only one to return fire. They where ambushed, ML ran, Murphy is clearly yelling for him to come back and help- as in help them fight, they found zero evidence of any more than 10-12 combatants, Gulabs story contradicts Luttrells and the pictures of him hiding at Gulabs show him with near no injuries
The guy that found Luttrell '' GULAB'' said Luttrell had 11 full magazines.
Nobody carry’s 11 magazines
Last time I checked did you serve? If no then SIT THE F DOWN
@@dangerousthoughts.1591luttrell himself said he was carrying 11. I could maybe see him retaining his mags could be an explanation, but I doubt that would be what he’s worrying about in an ambush
@@bignibba380also it could of been Murphy giving most of his mags to Marcus because he knew he wasn’t coming back , 1st attempt didn’t work to get signal got shot through the back and got up and came down fought a bit with Marcus but went back up got a signal called for QRF but end up getting cornered and literally shot multiple times non fatal too fatal shots and aparantly he was calling out for Marcus help
The movie was greatly exaggerated they most likely would’ve been dead the first 15-20 mins they got ambushed whic sucks..
This is the most emotional video you've released yet. Bravo. And a random thank you to the local who saved Luttrell. If there were an example of a guardian angel, that guy was it.
Sadly its likely that they killed few if any Taliban in the firefight. They instead were the ones who got smoked.
It wasn't even Taliban, it was a small cell of anti-coalition militia fighters that numbered less than 12.
35? Come on now, the footage shows half a dozen dudes involved...
8 to be exact and no evidence of any dead bodies was seen during the search for the bodies of fallen heroes.
@jtoms1859 possibly as high as 8 lol....tongue in cheek response to yet another bullshit seal story
@@bastionblackperformance3804to be fair, that’s all you saw in THAT footage. There was definitely more than 8. Way more than 8. Just because that’s all you saw on video doesn’t mean those were the only dudes in the fight.
@LiamORourke-kn4do why were there more than 8? You can hear the entire battle and its about a half dozen total participants...plus the fact that actual Intel report on Ahmad Shah said he had a force size of potentially 8-12.
@@bastionblackperformance3804 if you weren't an armchair warrior, you'd understand how that intel was gathered, you'd also understand that intel is usually wrong or partially wrong. you also clearly don't understand how a U shape ambush works and can't grasp why you can't see the total number on footage not to mention the fact footage never paints the entire picture. there are multiple intel failures in all aspects of warfare most people don't know about here are a few that actually got national attention, battle of Wanat, battle of nasiriyah (which led to jessica lynch getting captured and 4 others), Benghazi, Mogadishu, and Sadam having WMDs. Now let's say "8-12" is the accurate number its well documented and known that defenders can effectively hold off a element 3 times their size in this instance the defenders were 3 times the attacker's size (using your armchair numbers). If you do some basic math based on the rules of war 3x12 equals the power of 36 defenders. if your only capability in life is armchair combat at least be intelligent while you, do it.
I really wish you would have told the actual story. The story that was put together using the ACTUAL facts, and not just regurgitating all of Luttrell's propaganda and lies.
Yes especially the actual footage that shows only like 8- 10 dudes. The rope that they came down on getting cut. Being killed pretty quickly and Marcus running away with full mags. The antihero podcast covered this pretty well. Operation whalers was much more successful. I wonder if anyone can chime in on seals coming from zero infantry rate vs marines and army coming from infantry mos’s into SOF with a huge combat experience and formal infantry training gap/disparity. One thing that just always surprised me about navy and air force SOF. I know pj’s and cct have their own world I’m sure.
This guy is watching too many movies! Lmao
Beautifully done! I appreciate your delivery in honoring our elite soldiers
This video doesn't honour them unfortunately, instead it honours lies & cover ups of the navy & Marcus Lutrells book deals.
You mean pawns right? They just give you a status to make you feel more important and then give you more dangerous ops so you die "defending your country" or (((other))) countries which happens much more often.
Marcus didnt deplete his ammo... dude didnt even fire a single shot 😂
@@Ben-lv6tjThe Army guys who rescued him. And the photo Gulab has of him, still wearing his full kit. All mags still in his chest rig. Not a single facial injury visible either. Just google "Gulab photo of Lutrell."
He ran off and left them. I always believed that.
@@spectorjoy4851I heard the video "marcus come back "
@@sschevmale24here’s where the fucked up though. That was Marcus’ first deployment and mission. Not sure why you would send the new guy on a mission like that. Haha the work of Jakko haha. Stories are coming out about how corrupt he was as a leader.
@@MichaelJrCortesI heard that it was just a scouting operation. But I mean they send some PJ’s with no combat experience into active combat zones when they conduct rescues. Gotta start somewhere and the risk is inherent with anything they do, so him not being experienced has no relevancy.
Was sad to learn that Marcus made up a lot of what happened. Especially the part about him having all his ammo on his when Mohammed found him.
Sad but true. They were ambushed by less then 15 at most insurgents. No need to lie about it.
Source?
@@Christopher-rw2bp a lot of other SEALs, Rangers not to mention its well documented on the internet.
@@Christopher-rw2bp Mohammed Gulab is the source along with the Rangers and the Taliban cam shows a very different story than the one told by Marcus.
@@1-501Infantry Never understood why 15 on 4 is needs to be exaggerated. Can't imagine being ambushed by a hostile force intimately familiar with the terrain, has the high ground, and outnumber you 3 to 1 in a valley with almost no concealment or cover.
It's crazy how bad ass you can sound when you're the only one left who can tell the story.
Unfortunately for him, he wasn't the only one left when the US military combed through the remains and published Taliban footage of what had happened.
Most of these stories have a lot of luck to do with it. He was mostly lucky and I’m sure he knows it.
It's also crazy how stupid you can sound behind the safety of your keyboard.
@@24YOAthe us military didnt publish that lol… the ppl who did it published it!! They only died years later. The guy main guy they were after died in a shootout with police in Pakistan years later
More bad ass than you.
I was at Buckley Air Force Base in Aurora, CO. In the Navy at the time, we had to do a bit more than 'just our job' and I ended up volunteering and signing up and hand-picked for the Navy color guard and the base honor guard (all branches).
We were trained incredibly well and made absolutely sure our uniforms were squared-away. Our first class Petty Officer in charge of us, while he was laid back, he made absolutely sure we were ready to go for any event requested either from the community or the navy and the air force (base command), constant inspections, back-up uniforms, last-minute items in case of scuffs and pre-made neckerchiefs, just in case. You were given a blue parachord at our base to signify that you were a color guard.
We got a call about doing a memorial event at Heritage High School at Littleton, CO. We knew that it was going to honor a seal that died in afghanistan. It was about a little over 20 minutes that I can remember, our first class made us practice the night before of a ceremony that was 'unofficial' but it was presented so well that our base used it and it was one of our cornerstones of a performance our CO absolutely loved. We were going to perform this at the High School. The ceremony is known as "The thirteen folds of Old Glory." You fold the American Flag and each fold means and represents something and is a long but, wonderful ceremony. We were told we would do that in front of Danny Dietz widow and family and high school auditorium and above all else to keep military bearing.
By the time we were done, I learned more about that man as if I just read a biography or even an autobiography from him. It was that well done by the school. After we were done in the auditorium of the ceremony, there wasn't a dry eye and I cannot tell you how hard that is as Color Guard when you need to perform and keep absolute military bearing while there is a memorial at his highschool. Everytime I hear about the man or the operation it always takes me back that I and a few others were given the Honor to perform at his highschool and present a perfectly folded american flag to his family right there at the auditorium.
Went to BUDS with Danny. The stories are true. He was a good mug amongst good mugs. I’m sure your DT had a little help from above that day. Mahalo’s for what you could do to make our country and Danny’s family proud of that service. -Aloha
@@RafikiTheBaboon I am thankful for the opportunity. Most of the world is not as fortunate. I only hope we do not lose this great country as I feel we are hurting in a bad way.
The Marines of 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marines, who had planned OP RED WINGS, were going after a relatively low level target named Ahmed Shaw, as their previous operations, and the unit they'd replaced, had nabbed all the known high and medium value targets successfully.
Unfortunately, they were not part of a Marine Air Ground Task Force, and didn't possess organic lift assets needed to conduct it. So they asked for helo support from 160th SOAR (the famed Night Stalkers) who were assigned to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan (CJSOTF-A). The region SOTF command was run by SEALs who only agreed as long as they were to run the recon, and act as the main effort assault element to conduct the air assault raid against the target buildings thought to house the HVTs, while the rest of the Marine infantry company tasked with supporting missions, specifically the outer cordon. Because they had no options, and they wanted the mission to go ahead to nab the bad guy, the Marines agreed. This is not uncommon, its actually the norm. SOCOM are often on the lookout for good missions and they often get them from "poaching" intel or fully developed ops from conventional units.
Per the planning of Red Wings, the recon element was was going to be inserting the day before on the high ground nearby to three named areas of interest (NAI) that were supposed to be under observation to spot the targets. They were supposed to not only confirm the presence of Shaw, but also provide additional intel. 2/3 had planned to conduct the recon using a Scout Sniper six man team, headed by a very experienced team leader. They had worked in that area often before, knew the relative ground, knew the limitations of radios, etc. Their plan was to get helo lifted miles away from the objective, land, then infiltrate by foot.
When the SEALs poached the recon mission, the new recon element was a four man team who had never worked recon in Afghanistan before, weren't trained in recon, only one individual ever having deployed to a combat zone before. They ignored advice to bring more powerful radios, as the Marines knew from experience that the one the SEALs brought couldn't push out far enough, it didn't have enough power. Additionally, the SEAL recon team didn't have a Primary, Alternate, Contingency, Emergency (PACE) plan for comms, only having the weak MBITR and a sat phone as backup. Neither were adequate, and they were warned.
More so, their plan was significantly flawed. Not wanting to spent the time and energy walking to the objective, they decided to get helo inserted a few hundred meters away. They attempted to mitigate the risk of landing near directly on the Observation Point (OP) by having numerous false insertions done all over the valley area over the previous week, to keep the locals guessing, which only ended up tipping them off that an operation was in the works. But in recon, its an outright sin to ever airlift onto the OP. Every measure must be taken to keep it hidden, to keep the presence of the recon team hidden.
After they fast roped down on the landing zone, per norm, the fast ropes were disconnected from the helicopter, but the SEAL recon team did not hide them, they left them in the open. Locals, sent out when they'd heard the choppers, found them pretty quickly, and using their own comms, reported it back. At that time the SEAL team had made it to the high ground and beyond, were trying to find a good OP to overwatch the NAIs, which proved difficult as the position they initially chose at night proved poor when light came at dawn. After daybreak they moved OPs.
The locals, knowing ISAF rules of engagement, sent up some unarmed individuals, with radios, with some sheep, into the hills to scout them out. This is a common TTP in COIN ops to find snipers and recon element hide sites. In Iraq, they'd sent kids or unarmed adults to check on certain buildings, knowing we wouldn't kill them if we found them. If they found us, they'd report back. It worked during Red Wings. The SEAL recon team was spotted. Compromised, they detained the sheepherders.
At that point the operation was blown. They have just been soft compromised, though without knowing it they'd also been hard compromised as those herders were part of a deliberate counter-recon element so Shaw and the enemy fighters in the village knew they'd been caught when they didn't report back. But because the SEAL recon team never established a formal plan for being compromised they had to make the decision on the spot of what to do. Instead of executing the actions of a pre-made drill for compromise, (depending on the story version) they got into a debate about what to do and even possibly held a vote. Confusion was also on what to do with the detainees. AT NO TIME WAS KILLING THEM ACTUALLY A LEGAL OPTION. Or realistic. The easiest thing to do would have been to gag them and flex cuff them to a tree. Instead they let them go (where they instantly ran off to warn everyone), while the SEALs picked up and moved, but not far.
So after being compromised, the SEALs moved to high ground to make the call on their radio to alert the command element what had happened. Note, they didn't vacate the area, they moved maybe a hundred meters away from where they'd been spotted. Meanwhile, their comms weren't working, so the radio traffic was broken taking far longer than it should have without any real benefit of transmitting information.
Meanwhile, the local enemy, realistically numbering about 12 fighters, having been briefed by the returning herders on the location of the SEALs, their size, their weapons, created a plan, climbed the hills to reach a position where they could ambush the infidels on their way back up to the high ground which was on the way back to the LZ (which they sent RPG gunners to overwatch in case a helicopter showed up).
Finally, the SEAL recon team moving back toward the high ground through a draw (the NE Gulch), but got ambushed at relatively close range by roughly a squad sized element in strength, with machine guns. Possibly RPG and mortar, though in the video the insurgents made I never saw evidence of explosive weaponry.
Map of ambush, blue arrow is SEAL retreat
The fight was brief, and the SEALs that weren't hit immediately tried to break contact downhill. Luttrell effectively fell down the mountain, while the patrol leader, Mike Murphy, made a call on the sat phone before dying. The other two died during this time too. They didn't kill any of the locals, it was an entirely one sided fight.
The Quick Reaction Force 10 SEALs in a 160th SOAR Chinook, escorted by two Apaches. The SEAL mission commander aboard the Chinook ordered the pilots to reach the LZ ASAP, and because the Chinook flies faster than the Apaches they arrived first. Because the Apaches weren't present, despite them having the thermal optics that would have been able to visually clear the landing zone, and the weaponry to physically clear it, the Chinook flared and started its landing, in broad daylight, under the observation of RPG gunner stationed there, and was targeted and hit, crashing, killing all onboard.
Map of area of operations, with original RT insertion LZ and QRF LZ/Shootdown pos marked
Another SOCOM QRF element, of primarily Rangers, were sent in the next day, they landed elsewhere and walked in, they are the ones who found Luttrell, who had been rescued by a villager in a local village, who apparently still had all his mags, loaded. They also recovered the bodies and secured the helicopter crash site.
Besides recovering all weapons and equipment belonging to the SEALs, and having video footage of the fight, the local leader and target of the raid, Ahmed Shaw, also got a computer they'd brought that once broken into possessed the schematics of the US embassy in Kabul, as well as other sensitive information. He took that intel, and the videos, and cobbled together an effective propaganda video that earned him major credibility, which led to increased funding, recruitment, etc., causing him to turn into a legitimate High Value Target.
Wow, what a detailed report of what happens; I have never read a better one of such a situation. Thank You for that.
A German son of an English officer.
I was told nearly exactly this years ago. Rangers were not impressed with any of it nor the publicity that followed. I was told directly that a basic IN Squad from the 82nd would have done a better OP across the board. It has been a very long time since I was a Lightfighter sqd ldr, but the FUBAR here is self-inflicted and indicative of not only arrogance, but absolute incompetence.
In essence, the mission went FUBAR.
It’s a comment section. Not a book to write…
There's predator uav footage of marcus running away. He wasn't in the fight at all. He's basically hated in the seal community. Also the nonsense about 35 Taliban being killed is a joke there were very likely 0 kia.
In your arrogance you forgot in the title "How the Taliban SMOKED a chinook full of SOF"
it amazes me so much, how you make the mood and aura unique to each video and story. incradible work man
when 4 seals smoked 35 insurgents? 3 died, 1 ran away not shooting a single bullet. no taliban casualties.
what is this title
Yep. fantasy vid
ah yes my favorite series, "making dudes heroes who had 0 business being there in the first place"
Popo once again not disappointing! Thank you for all your work bringing all these documentaries. Telling the stories of those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Greatly appreciated!
It's a movie already. Nothing new.
@@Dime_time333It’s new to some people!
@@TalkingFlannel yeah, bozos
Apparently you dont know the TRUTH about what happened - and how this only shows how ignorant to the facts this poster is. LAtrell is a "COWARD" and a "LIAR" as proven under fire. He never fired off a single shot and left his buddies to die! He told al seals were dead when there was one out there. And because the search and rrescue thought they were meerely searching for 'dead' bodies there was no urgency - when in fact Axe was found 10 days later, and all evidence shows Axe was killed only recently before the time they found him - meaning had latrell not reported all seals as dead - to cover up his cowardice there is a good chance Axe would have been found alive. The idiot who posted this video and left out so many facts should have his youtube posting proviledges revoked for misinformation
These are important stories to tell. Both the operation but also how the locals took in, cared for, and defended a stranger. People sometimes can only see the “enemy” amongst the “others” but they’re human too.
Can anyone confirm the following: I’ve read tons of stuff that says they didn’t kill any enemies, no enemy bodies were found after searching the area, there weren’t nearly as many as stated, Marcus just ran away, when he was rescued he had all his ammo, gulab was basically forgotten after all said and done, seals weren’t supposed to even do this mission and were extremely unprepared for the terrain and needs of a recce mission.
Confirmed. Read Victory Point and the Newsweek article interviewing Gulab.
Yeah you pretty much summed it up very well. It's just another situation where the SEALs and Big Navy fucked shit up in a very bad way that got our troops killed.
The Op was turned down by Green Berets because it was a shit show of logistics/support.
Operation Hubris.
That is truth, official AAR shows (also plenty statements/interviews of other operators in AO, Bagrham on standby etc) he had all his ammo and SF turned the mission down because of its poor logical playing, Taliban reports saying they heard the helicopter and started looking for them, it wasn’t a goat hurdler that ran back and told them and they were only like 6-12 Taliban in the area. Which coincides with AAR report that the SEALs requested to be dropped off closer than idle so they wouldn’t have to hike as much terrain. But still, this facts of this poorly planned and executed mission should not take away from the sacrifice these SEALs and soldiers gave, especially those that perished trying the rescue them.
@PopoMedic That was awesome. I have heard the story multiple times, on JRE, and other platforms. Yours, fantastic! I really liked the tribute at the end, and got pretty choked up about it. Semper Fi!
Many who were directly involved would tell you that the operational reports in theater tell a completely different story than any book or movie and that they possibly didn’t even kill one insurgent. Shah wasn’t even Taliban and this mission was the epitome of piss poor planning and several other units in fact turned it down. It wasn’t even really the thing SEAL teams necessarily do and it certainly wasn’t ideal for just 4 guys with shitty comms . The guys were compromised the minute the helo dropped them by account of people who were actually in theater at the time and were being watched. It’s been said by people in the position to know , that what actually happened was the Shahs guys set up and executed an ambush from above the SEAL team and they didn’t even have the chance to waste a bunch of bad guys .
Pretty close to reality but tali footage that’s about 35 mins long (obviously cut so it was longer) shows you were correct about setting ambush but there was a pretty big gunfight and lutrell was team medic and sniper with the only suppressed weapon you hear fire maybe a handful of times. Also hear Murphy hollering his name after being mortally wounded. SEALS got fucked with low ground and enemy had 2 pkms and RPG’s.
It seems pretty consistent from anyone who is not a SEAL or US military that this firefight was a huge tactical fuck up on the American side that ended in a lot of elite soldiers dying and a textbook ambush executed perfectly by the Taliban. Whoever is cleaning up this comment section seems to know that also since every comment that isn't pro USA is getting deleted.
@@NotThatGuyPal. I hear ya. Obviously I wasn’t there. I served my time like a lot of guys did and I’d like to think that I know what makes sense when I see certain comments on videos pertaining to this particular incident. I’ve seen several comments from guys who were there and had access to the in theater reports , as well as other people have come out publicly and they all say the book/movie account which I assume is Marcus account isn’t accurate.
Personally I think it takes big balls to even be up there in that position so I’m certainly not trying to trash anyone…but I also do think accuracy is important.
Share your sources
Ayup yall actually get it. So many people been duped by and believe the movie telling of events its crazy.
That story involving the truck driver caring for and protecting the wounded man due to ancient tradition is incredible. It's crazy to think it's not just history, people will probably look back on this story how we would look back on an example of this from ancient Rome. I think that bit will be remembered.
Mohammad Gulab?
Man if you haven’t watched Lone Survivor brother you’re missing out on the incredible story of these events!
@@The_Bass_Stunters I knew a SEAL that was serving in combat roles during the time this all happened, and he actually stated that Lutrell is not well respected in the SEAL community because the account of the events in his memoir didn't jive with the evidence, apparently, he made himself out to be braver and more of a factor than he really was. The person I am talking about mentioned something about an inventory of ammo and equipment before and after missions and Lutrell being rescued with the majority of his ammo still with him vs being depleted as indicated in the movie and his memoir. Lutrell also turned his back on the Afgan villager who rescued and protected him.
@@dilligaf575 him and Murphy are hated in the SEAL community. Murphy shot a fellow SEAL on a live fire training and if you know SEALs then you would know they rarely misfire so he got a lot of hate for that and this mission. The only ones really respected are Danny Dietz and Axel.
Many Muslims actually live by what their religion teaches. They are good people who just want to live their lives with certain customs that are very weird to us in the west. Just like any group though, the people who get the most attention are the minority groups who are extreme and violent and those people generally wind up in charge. It's a shame so many of them who are essentially innocent wind up caught in battles instigated by those who are in charge and they wind up losing family members in the war the others cause. I guess that's actually true for just about any group or country though
No insurgents were smoked… the seals were in a bad spot and got ambushed by 8-10 dudes on three sides. Very unfortunate
Well that's certainly the version that lutrell wants everybody to think happened.
I’d love to see a mini doc on Kyle Morgan and his Ratisan Blu hotel incident as well as a video on Tony Cowden where he single handedly took out 26 enemy fighters. They need to make movies on these guys 🔥
This!
Shawn Ryan did a interview with Tony Cowden that, despite my particular stance on Shawn, was an excellent interview. I recommend that one in particular.
@@theplourde yea he interviewed both of them super dope episodes. I just love popo’s mini docs
Or the last stand of John Chapman on Robert's Ridge
Just read Victory Point: Operations Red Wings and Whalers - the Marine Corps' Battle for Freedom in Afghanistan which gives a vastly different account of this failed OP.
THANK YOU. I have been searching the comments for the source material of those claims.
Everybody has been saying it happened differently from how Luttrell said, but nobody posted any sources.
Worth noting this book is so high quality the US Military itself gave it recognition for comprehensively documenting what happened.
@@JuanAppleseed-ge6tbhard to provide sources if you didnt read it anywhere. Most people that know what really went down’s source is the uniform they wear.
Yea this version was pulled straight from the bullshit movie, and book.
@@punkavaug so being in the military magically gives somebody all the details of a special operation?
That's weird. I did six years in the Army and worked with Navy Seals and Rangers on my deployment to Afghanistan and never heard a single discrepancy until reading the comment section today 🤔
That's crazy. Must be nothing but top-tier, special operations personnel commenting on a CZcams video 🥴😂🤣
Damn, remember when Marcus Luttrell cut all contact with Mohammad Gulab after he exposed Marcus' lies?
Also, anybody remember how a QRF of 16 people were killed because of the SEALs hubris?
I rember
What was it gulab said?
@@NotThatGuyPal.Gulab said that Luttrell still had 11 magazines full when he was recovered. He also said that locals combed through the hills after the firefight and recovered no taliban bodies.
Gulab also said he was censored, and that during his interview he was just told to respond with yes to everything Marcus said.
@@Thwack992 yea, I somewhat believe that because lutrell had the only suppressed weapon and in the 35 min tali footage of the engagement you hear a suppressed weapon fire about 10 times. Also when Murphy is mortally wounded he calls out for Marcus with no response.
I saw the movie lone survivor and was filled with such sorrow after seeing the helicopter come in only to taken out by an enemy rocket. I never knew the men on that bird but as a veteran I thank you Popo Medic for honoring those men’s sacrifice.
That man was trained by my father at Camp Humphrey in South Korea. He used to talk about Chris constantly and just wondered where he'd been, and then he saw Lone Survivor. I wish I could've met Chris, he sounded like a pretty good guy, and my dad took it pretty hard honestly.
That's right, imagine boarding the chopper in hopes to reach on time to save your comrades, and then being shot down without having the chance to fire a single shot against the enemy, total fubar!
Source: trust me bro, i saw the movie
He did thorough research and watched documentaries
That's weird,when the Rangers came to rescue the seals,they literally said they didn't see any enemy bodies 🤔 Hollywood writes a good tale,but never a true one...
Same for Luttrel
Huh, its almost like it's islamic tradition to recover the remains of fellow Muslim fighters during a time of war... bizarre...
I believe it was the marines in the area that doubted Lutrell's account. The Rangers who rescued him didn't get to him until weeks after he had been in the village. That part is always glossed over in the film and many documentaries. There was allegedly taliban who even threatened the village several times but they refused to surrender Lutrell. No idea how much is true and not but a bunch of SEALs definitely died that day in some crazy shit.
@@forrestcrain3401 This is the accurate take. The marines abviosuly had it out for Lutrell and Seal Team 10 for taking over their OP. The only fair account you can rely on are the Rangers. Who btw, hunted down the remaining injured Taliban and killed them.
No enemy bodies and Marcus had full mags.
I would recommend reading Code over Country by Matthew Cole
In my opinion it gives a much more accurate account of what happened that day and the leadership failures that led to the disaster.
In his book The Operator Robert O’Neill claims that the Chinook was shot down by a surface to air missile , not an RPG. The pilots and crew of the other hele seem to back this up.
Also according to O’Neill , Zabit Jalil , the man who orchestrated the attack on the seal SDV team , was wounded in a battle with Devgru and Afghans on the wrong side of the Pakistani border. His fate was unknown.
Rob also believes he killed bin Laden so I’d never believe a word he says
Robert O'Neil is a prolific liar, and anything he says should be taken with several grains of salt.
Also, the investigating officers found pieces of an RPG-7 warhead at the crash site. There is no mention of pieces of any other rocket or missile system being found.
Rob O'Neill is a bullshiter.
Thanks Popo, ima new sub and love this channel. Being from Houston Texas Marcus and Morgan Luttrell have a special place in my heart as fellow Texans and human beings that shows how we all should be in life.
Marcus sounds like a drunk Chad when on the mic and his wife just sounds like the moody wife that stands up for her man no matter what😂
Thank you for shining light on the beautiful sacrifice these men give! And showing faces to those sacrifices, we say we remember, but sometimes until seeing real loved humans we really remember and hopefully respect then, thank you again for this video!
I heard from multiple sources that Luttrell never fired his MK12. Plus it was like 10 Afghani's that were after them. He also ran from his team after the first cliff jump allegedly.
In the tali footage that’s cut but still 35 mins long you hear his suppressed m110 or whatever he had fire maybe a handful of times
In the Taliban footage one of them says in Pashtun "Get the one who's running" & you hear one of the SEALs yelling for Marcus to help.
@@NotThatGuyPal. That was allegedly Axe's Mk12. Marcus never fired a round
@@arktactical6112 oh wow, yea he was the last one to die so that makes sense. The other two with the unsupressed m4 were really into the fight for almost the entire engagement tho 🫡
It's a shame that Marcus ran and abandoned his friends to their fates. In the unedited Taliban footage, you can clearly hear Axe screaming, "Marcus, help us, Marcus, come back!" And, when Marcus was recovered by the rescue team, all of his magazines were still full.. Dude literally ran. Which, I mean, I understand, it's scary to get into a gunfight. But, where he messed up was making himself the hero in his book and his movie.
Source?
@@thalesofmiletus6162look it up
@@thalesofmiletus6162 The internet is free. Imagine acting like Google isn't a thing in 2023. When I researched this subject I must have opened 11 tabs. Imagine the ignorance to not be asking the question for yourself and just hold your hand out saying "gimme!"
@@thalesofmiletus6162 also, the common narrative of there being, "35," Taliban KIA is disputable. In the video, we only see a handful, at most 15 present for the entire battle, with none appearing to be KIA.
@@thesickhorseranch1930 that must have been very cathartic to write. I’m glad you got your dopamine for the week. I have a limited and valuable amount of time unlike you. Mald.
Much respect and kudos for adding that tribute at end.
Powerful... Thank you for this wonderful video honoring the memory of those who fought and died for our freedom ! RIP
Merry Christmas.
That timber truck driver and his village is the stuff of movies happy there is people with good morales out in such a harsh place
First time I heard of this mission was in Sissi NCO school in Finnish army. We got presented the same moral question. And we talked about kind Leonidas and other notable military batles. Sissi is a unconwentional warfare unit, long distance recon, direct action, sabotage, road side ambush. You name it. Now they train more recon orientadet unit and direct action special forces separate with the Nato complient J-Tacs. We ordered some 155mm artillery or two different size mortars but didn't really make corrections to the fire
The SEALs fought to take this mission from the Marines which was never supposed to be done by a 4 man team in the first place.
They landed so close to the objective that the entire valley knew precisely when and where they were. Later Luttrell had the audacity to claim it was "them liberal medias" that got his team killed.
They move to a location without comms with their higher HQ. They decide to set up there anyway.
They don't bother to take the time to build a good hide site.
They are compromised by local civilian noncombatants. The team considers committing a egregious war crime to cover up their own gross incompetence. The correct answer was unequivocally to not murder those civilians, and it should terrify you, as it does me, that Luttrell thought he and his fellow SEALs were so above the law that the only thing keeping them from literally murdering innocent people was that they might get roasted for it on CNN. (Which still doesn't make sense because they could have easily covered it up given the circumstances).
The Taliban know where they are and are moving towards them already. The released civilians may have given them more specific information, or they may not have. Regardless, 7-15 enemy fighters are moving towards the hapless SEAL team.
The Taliban pinpoint their location. 7-15 well armed fighters with superior mobility and knowledge of the terrain will (almost) always overwhelm a 4 man reconnaissance team caught in an unfavorable position. I am confident the team did their best to survive. That said, the notion that they were fighting hundreds and killing dozens of enemy is absurd. Luttrell is a liar. His initial report suggests around 30 enemy fighters (with the actual figure estimated much lower). He then proceeds to inflate this number to absurd proportions for his book, and the movie inflates them even further. Also, Marcus Luttrell is later found by the Rangers with, allegedly, all 11 of his magazines completely full. He did not appear to have fired a single shot in the engagement.
QRF is notified. I don't recall exactly what was the fuckup, but the teams didn't do their job of coordinating the mission with their adjacent units well enough. Regardless, the O5 in charge of the SEAL teams decides it's a good idea to hop on the bird and be a part of the QRF.
Why do you require AWT (Air Weapon Team) when inserting into a hot LZ? The QRF is shot down when their MH47 attempts to rope them in to an unknown area of the mountain. Again, these deaths were preventable, and I like to think we've learned from this how not to do QRF.
Marcus Luttrell is rescued by Mohammed Gulab, who takes him into protection. One could draw a very interesting parallel here. Luttrell regrets the decision (which to be clear, was never his to make) to do the lawful and moral thing when faced with a risk to his team. However he has no issues with Gulab risking the lives of his family and entire village to protect him. Why should Gulab do the right thing when Luttrell believes SEALs don't have to?
Luttrell is rescued after a massive search and rescue pulls troops from the entire region. Altogether 19 are dead. Luttrell later writes a book which tells a very different story than what all other accounts say happened.
A movie is released. Mohammad Gulab is invited to visit the US for the screening. Afterwards, he is confused by the movie, and tells a very different account of what happened. This angers Luttrell who cuts ties with the man who saved his life.
Mohammed Gulab returns to Afghanistan. Once the movie is released, it is widely circulated by the Taliban who now learn of Gulab's involvement. Gulab has had numerous attempts on his life, and has lost friends and family to attacks in repercussions. He has tried to immigrate to the US under the same program that protects interpreters. So far (as far as I can find) this has gone nowhere.
The story of Operation Red Wing has heroes. LT Mike Murphy, who exposed himself to enemy fire to make the call to save his team. Murphy who, despite pressure to do otherwise, upheld the strictest moral standards of his country and refused to murder civilians to cover his own mistakes, of which there were many. Mohammad Gulab, who risked his life and wellfare to shelter a man in need.
But Marcus Luttrell is, at best, a profiteering liar. We should not continue to glorify his place in this disaster of a mission. And we should criticize the gross incompetence of the people involved in planning and executing this ill-fated reconnaissance patrol.
Marine deep reconnaissance platoon would have been the right tool for the job and would have executed the mission flawlessly. Dumb decision to opt for the SDV unit with no prior combat experience. They're trained for underwater transport, amphibious recon and maritime sabotage. Fish out of water on that op. Their bravado exceeded their skill, knowledge and experience.
Can you send links for sources or interviews that are mentioned? I'm having trouble finding them.
Perfectly said
@@svdclevelandI was on this deployment. We were the only Marine combat unit in country at the time. In 2005 Ramadi was jumping off in Iraq and that’s where most of the deployed Marine units were. We didn’t have a Marine recon unit or any Marine air. We wanted our own snipers up on that hill but SOCOM said if we wanted to use the night stalkers for support then we had to use SEALs. A lot of our ops with SOCOM had issues like this and after Red Wings we tried to do more stuff on our own.
@@user-bh8he9rr1k Thats what I heard. Any idea what SOCOMs reasoning was? Specifically for requiring paired SOF assets. Is there valid justification for denying Marine snipers that authorization or was it just military bureaucracy.
I'd love to see a mini doc about the Good Friday battle in 2010. As a soldier in the german army, that day means a lot to the people in our armed forces and is something that is still talked about during basic training for our new recruits
Thank you for your service. As an American of Austrian and German ancestry, I have high regard for soldiers of my homeland.
Would love to see your boys get the old band back together.
Great stuff! love that mountain pan in then out but these stories are always done amazingly. Thank you!
The ambush was almost 100% confirmed to have been initiated by roughly 10-12 insurgents, there was no way there were that many in the area until the bird was shot down. RRC (Ranger Recon) was in the area and ended up killing the insurgents responsible, after that more Taliban started moving more into the valley after that and engaging the Ranger platoon searching for Marcus, but Marcus team more than likely didn’t kill anyone.
Unfortunately the movie that portrayed this is almost completely fictional.
My platoon (C co 2/75) are the ones that found luttrell.
Essentially every EKIA on the ground was killed by Rangers, Ranger attachments and CAS support.
This is not to detract from the Dead, but the events told are not accurate, and the movie is entirely fictional, especially its portrayal of the extraction, completely leaving out perhaps the most extraordinary part of the entire operation, the sexiest of the crash site as well as the retrieval of Marcus and the fight out.
I was on that deployment too with 2nd Bn 3rd Marines. The book doesn’t even get the name of the Op correct. The movie is totally fictional, but still a really good movie.
I'm glad that you guys are willing to comment the truth on this matter. Lone Survivor does a disservice to those who died during this operation as it fails to acknowledge the actual mistakes that occurred which arguably led to the majority of deaths.
@@randomman057 The book wasn't even written by Marcus Luttrel. The Navy hired a British author to write it because they liked his fictional books about Navy SEALs. Then they slapped Luttrel's name on it and made a movie deal.
@Jabanana he's a ghost writer, Marcus would of told him the story and the ghost writer makes a novel of the story. This is extremely common place with memoirs.
@@Bluetongue. Is it also extremely common to hire a ghost writer to write fabricated details of an operation where 19 service members were killed?
So you chose these versions of the story. Interesting.
I was just thinking about this channel yesterday, and boom, here we go!
I remember back in hs my English teacher assigned us to write a paper about a book of on our teachers approved list and Lone Survivor was one of them so I picked it because it sounded cool. I wasn't much of a reader (still not) but I couldn't put this book down and the heartbreaking story sticks with me to this day.
Ya, It's very good. That's why it's in the fiction category.
@@Khuros "Non-Fiction"*
@@ojsimpin8346 8 dudes wiped out 4 seals. The only guy who lived lied like crazy. He had 11 mags full of ammo when he left the base. He had 11 full mags when they rescued him. He just ran and did not even shoot one bullet.
@@Khurosit's easy to sit on the sidelines and judge someone's story while you weren't even there. Don't be a coward.
@@Khuros lol. The further you look into this story - the more you realize what we’ve been told is fiction. Even Luttrell finally admitted that he froze in the moment while his buddy was taking fire. He the. dropped his gun and ran away.
It's crazy to see all the effort we made in Afghanistan to watch it fall in an afternoon
Vietnam was no different and a good example of how nothing was learned.
@@dickiesdocos agreed. I don't think it's that we didn't learn I think it's deliberately done.
Wasnt it like 7 dudes? and didnt the rangers find marcus' kit with most of his mags full?
Yes and yes.
Lol I can't believe popo would actually cover this story in this manner. It takes 20 minutes of real research to figure out it was all BS and Marcus bolted while his teammates put their lives down for him. The entire build up was absolute trash planned. Navy fucked up and had their ass covered by the Marines, Army Rangers, and Hollywood. Gulab was a hero.
yup
Yeah... Rangers Lead the Way!
In the tali footage of the gunfight you can only hear a suppressed weapon fire a handful of times. That’s what Latrell had. Most of the firing was the m4’s (the other 3 seals carried), Ak, and pkms. Also it looked to about 12 enemy combatants and 2 with pkms so they were f*cked.
I literally just rewatched the Lone Survivor movie a few weeks back. Thanks for covering this further. Always love your content Popo!
Bro I love the ASMR during the firefight scene. I need a 6 hour loop to sleep through. Excellent video my guy. I lived near there for a bit as well.
Wow. The production, writing, score and overall quality of these videos has just been sky rocketing. It's channels like this that I don't miss Netflix, hule, etc. Good job dude and keep it going im going to donate whati can cause this rocks.
this video /post is almost 100% wrong ....google Marcuss Luttrell and scroll down to Red Wings controversy .... or dont and believe the bullshit in the above
I been waiting for this one and man I love your videos ❤❤❤
Love your content dawg keep up the dope work
Every time I hear this story I get even more pissed off.
i hate to say it but i think a more accurate title would be "when 35 insurgents smoked 4 seals"
10-12 Insurgents*
8*
Thanks....Love all your stuff... keep it real brother
Thank you for this video. I figured you would get to this eventually and I'm grateful you did.
Bro Popo Cooks every upload🔥🔥
Popo Medic you are awesome thank you for your videos!
Thank you for the video, and thank you for showing me Sleepaway Camp. These guys are a great listen.
Phenomenal video about some incredible men
The ones that died incredible yes. Luttrell not so much.
This mini doc is awesome. I know you usually focus on domestic cops and robbers type stuff, but feel free to go with more military combat stories. What makes your channel awesome and unique is your format and especially the badass background music.
You keep doing you and I’ll keep watching your videos
Honestly crazy! Big respect to these 4 and everyone involved fr.
Damn bro your videos have been a amazing success! Your production, reasrarch, everything has gotten better & the videos longer. Keep up the amazing work! 🇺🇸
In the Afghan videotape of the event, you can hear Mike Murphy yell “Marcus, where are you!?” as Luttrell runs away and leaves his team to die
Coward
exactly...did you see the anderson cooper interview, where he confesses to this? He actually called himself a coward for this. But it didnt change his lies about there being 100-200 enemies in the area, when in his after action report he wrote only 20-30 and the marine intel only reports 8-12 enemies in the area on that day.
This book lead to me joining the marines. Ive heard several times this story is true and its been falsely reported. All i know is either way it changed my life.
You joined the marines because of a navy seal that fled with all of his mags full?
Damn dude, the propaganda got you
Semper Fi brother. These bitches will never understand.
They got him too. He's got the dodge challenger and everything
Back when our country still knew how to recruit. Make a fictional movie about a “true story” that happened to NAVY SEALS and watch the patriotism surge. I wish it worked today….
Another good documentary. Popo honored these men, thank you Sir.
Greetings from Chile. Honor and Glory to all the Heroes who fought giving all what they had for his duty. May all of them have the peace that they deserves.
you always make my favorite short docs on youtube! keep it up popo!
Please do The Mad Trapper of Rat River. Crazy story, first manhunt in history to involve an aircraft, flown by WW1 fighter ace Wop May. The Trapper climbed a vertical mountainside to escape the RCMP, he wore his snowshoes backwards and doubled back over his tracks to confuse those following him. He survived being blown up inside his cabin, and hiked through blizzards so bad that the native americans assisting the RCMP couldnt even move through. While he was eventually shot and killed, his identity still remains unknown.
MAN TALK ABOUT A ROUGH DAY AT WORK! God bless our Volunteers of men & women, absolutely exceptional service. Obviously can't be easy that who were lost without a shot fired. Spartan warriors they & the warriors heritage would be proud. Damn it, rest easy, your fight is done for now....
Jumped off the side of the dingetty dang mountain. I mean, I sprained my back sleeping too hard last week.
Wasn't there a confirmed video from the insurgent POV which showed how this really went down? Including "get the one who is running", referring to Marcus Lutrell. Even Marcus himself has since walked back a lot of the nonsense hasn't he? If I'm not mistaken there were no Taliban casualties, let alone 35. I'm not saying this to shit on the team, or the SEALs in general, they weren't right for the mission, not at this point in the war.
yes its a shame seeing popo do no research about this shit
I think this has lots to do with the fact that many people believe the taliban to be made of up idiot farmers with aks. Those dudes are very capable and experienced guerrilla fighters who already had lots of combat experience and knowledge from fighting the soviets. Not to mention the land they knew like the back of their hand.
Yeah, sadly the video shot by the local mountain men makes "Lone Survivor" a fairy tale
You are correct. It was 15 at most insurgents. Either way they didnt have 3-1 ratio and tried to break contact but sadly they couldnt. The lies they told dishonored the SEALs
@@weaver1507 Not to mention that the Taliban has been fighting the Northern Alliance after the Soviet-Afghan War and fighting with other Tribes who dislike the Taliban.
i find these so interesting, you can see it in a show or a movie but these things happening in real life is crazy to me.
It didn't happen in real life like Holly depicts it , in reality there was 8-12 talis and Marcus ran away mid fight , off the US had Hollywood go all out to cover up such embarrassment especially for elite special forces
@@kingtachalla6181prove it share your sources. I’d like to see it.
@@andreww1225 Primarily Victory Point: Operations Red Wings and Whalers - the Marine Corps' Battle for Freedom in Afghanistan & the Shahs footage of the battle which includes one of the Fighters stating in Pashtun "Get the one who is running" and Michael Murphy yelling at Marcus to help.
@@andreww1225 too lazy bro I'm on fortnite
you silent now why ? @@andreww1225
I don’t know how someone couldn’t make it to the end of any of your videos especially this one. Great video
Very respectful and informative documentary. Best of luck, and take care.
im pretty sure this was a W on the insurgents side...
It was in the long term. Muhammad Shah became a rock star overnight because of this operation. Had the Marines maintained their assumed operational control, instead of letting SOCOM 'bully' them around, we might've seen a different outcome... Or maybe the same outcome but with different names to remember.
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek It was in the short term too. The only justification would be the argument that the team killed or wounded x3 the number of insurgents than what was lost trying to get them out and there appears to be no truth to that story. Big W to the Taliban in every way that was spun to save face, which also contributes to the L we take every day believing a lie.
I'm a combat veteran, I don't feel good about it. I don't feel good that we lost all that for nothing just so SEAL jackasses could stroke their egos instead. Not a good trade in my book.
@JohnDoe-wt9ek Completely wrong. Read the book "Victory Point". His cell got smoked by 3/3 like 2 weeks later.
Come on PopoMedic, why the propaganda story and not the real one? You know where the seals pretty much fucked up in every way possible, from planning to execution.
Your videos are the best of the best. Thank you. His book is in my library too.
Goddamn, that was beautiful.. Almost shed a tear at a couple points, despite the fact that I knew virtually all the facts surrounding this mission and none of this was new information to me.. Regardless of this, it was still a really well done video.. Thanks for this one, bro.
So you're aware that there were only 8-10 insurgents? Or that most of this video is BS?
Allegedly they killed 35 Taliban. In reality though not even close
This video is straight-up propaganda. Marcus Luttrel estimated 30-35 insurgents in his AAR, then went on to say 200+ in his book, the real number was about 10-12. The original plan was to bring a four-man sniper team, a saw gunner and a mortarman. They took a four-man recce team only with rifles, they were told to hike the way in days before to avoid detection, Instead they infilled by helicopter 1.5 miles away (leaving their fast ropes on the mountain) from their OPs to observe the NAIs, they were told to bring a PRC117 20-watt radio, instead they brought a PRC 148 m-biter 5-watt radio, equivalent to a walkie-talkie.
Were you in 2/3 with me? I was in Fox.
@@user-bh8he9rr1k No I was a kid during that time, the information I posted was primarily from Victory Point by Ed Darack & interviews done with people who were involved with Red Wings and Whaler
Book wasn't even written by Marcus Luttrell. It was written by a British dude that wrote fictional stories about Navy SEALs, then slapped with Luttrell's name on it.
Excellent delivery, it seems insane they sent 16 highly trained men in a metal box with zero protection. Michael Murphy shows insane bravery and brotherhood and the whole squad seems to be well oiled. A true loss of great human life and talent
Love the videos broset!!!!
😂 *MAN* I knew the comments section was gonna tear this apart. Sorry Popo we aint buying it. RIP to the fallen, but the reality of what occured does not seem to line up with the movie or this video.
The movie is a fantastic movie, but it's just that. And when you look into who foot the bill for it you realize it's just pro-government propaganda. Why hasn't Marcus been on Jocko's Podcast? My bet is it never happens and if it does it stays surface deep.
@@thesickhorseranch1930 I never even put those two together that he's never been on the podcast. He's always hanging out with the black rifle guys that I can't take serious anymore.
@@TCraig00 His name has come up a time or two as you might expect with the two men coming from the same tight-knit community but Jocko is beyond tight lipped about it.